The best road to progress is freedom's road. - JFK
Florida
Batman is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Comics, a collaborative effort to build an encyclopedic guide to comics on Wikipedia. Get involved! If you would like to participate, you can help with the current tasks, visit the notice board, edit the attached article or discuss it at the project's talk page.ComicsWikipedia:WikiProject ComicsTemplate:WikiProject ComicsComics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Fictional characters, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of fictional characters on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Fictional charactersWikipedia:WikiProject Fictional charactersTemplate:WikiProject Fictional charactersfictional character articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Media franchises, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to media franchises on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Media franchisesWikipedia:WikiProject Media franchisesTemplate:WikiProject Media franchisesmedia franchise articles
This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.LGBT studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBT studiesLGBT articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Wikipedia articles about television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion.
To improve this article, please refer to the style guidelines for the type of work.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Popular culture, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.Popular cultureWikipedia:WikiProject Popular cultureTemplate:WikiProject Popular culturePopular culture articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Culture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of culture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CultureWikipedia:WikiProject CultureTemplate:WikiProject Cultureculture articles
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was not to mergeBatman (Jace Fox) into this article. Editors stated that the brief mention currently in Batman was enough coverage, that the main Batman article is already lengthy, that Jace Fox likely meets the criteria to have a separate article similar to Batwoman (Kathy Kane), and no convincing rationale to merge was provided in the proposal. Rjjiii (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The other versions section and article deal with non-comic and Elseworlds versions of Batman; Batman (Jace Fox) goes in the "Others" sub-section of the "Characterization" section.
I also think that content from the Batman (Jace Fox) article doesn't needs to be transferred, as the vast majority of it is in-universe information, and that the sentence that deals with him in this article is sufficient. Year2006 (talk) 05:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Opposed: There's precedent for articles of Batman characters with even less appearances such as the original Batwoman, Kathy Kane, or Bluebird (Harper Row), to keep their individual status. As well as characters like Batman (Terry McGinnis) having their own page. Batman (Jace Fox) is in the primary canon with more appearances to come, thus it would make little sense to relegate him to lesser than those. The Above All Others (talk) 12:17, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kathy Kane is a decades-old character and Terry McGinnis was made to be a protagonist of a tv show. The Harper Row article should not have been made when it was made but I do think that its existence is appropriate now considering her usage in Gotham Knights Year2006 (talk) 14:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it a policy that a character must be old enough to merit its own article like Kathy? And Terry McGinnis was created as the protagonist of a TV show, but does that mean he is notable enough to have his own article? The same question applies to Harper Row. Lililolol (talk) 16:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't translate to Wikipedia policy but it is indisputable that those characters are more notable than Jace Fox. In terms of the Wikipedia notability policy, both Terry McGinnis and Kathy Kane clearly qualify to have their own article but Harper Row probably does not. Year2006 (talk) 18:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jace Fox was created in 1979, he is decades-old as well. Kathy Kane has only about 20 more appearances than Jace and an equal amount of adaptations, really. I do not see the difference. The Above All Others (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mistook Kathy Kane with Kate Kane but they are fundamentally the same character and the former's article is backed up by a scholarly source. Also, there is a clearly a difference between them; Kathy Kane was created to be a love interest and a deuteragonist while Timothy Fox was created to be a side character. Year2006 (talk) 04:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They're not the same character, as Kathy Kane is a former love interest of Bruce's, and Kate Kane is his cousin. With characters like Yara Flor and Jo Mullein having pages, it wouldn't make sense to relegate Jace to your proposal. The Above All Others (talk) 16:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Opposed: Like others said, If Terry can have his own page as well as the originally Kathy Kane, there's no reason why Jace Fox's Batman, who at least stars his own solo and is a notably different version of Batman enough, can have his own.JayAaerow (talk)
Oppose: Your opinion is of poor rationale, not particularly relevant to how Wikipedia handles articles, and you have not provided enough (if any) justification for merging this article about a separate character with this mantle. Trailblazer101 (talk) 06:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.