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before the question. Again, welcome! —Ynhockey (Talk) 13:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey, Aschroet, I saw you moved this file to Commons, but I don't think that was appropriate. The photo is PD in the US, since it was in an ONI publication from around 1900, but we don't know the actual origin of the photograph. In addition to internal processes, ONI routinely purchased images of foreign ships for recognition purposes. Since we don't know for sure whether this was a work of the US Navy, I don't think we can make a valid claim that it's PD worldwide, which is a requirement for Commons. Parsecboy (talk) 11:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Parsecboy, my naive assumption is that an almost 150 year old photo is 100% PD. --Arnd (talk) 14:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's not how it works, unfortunately; we can't just assume a photo is PD because it's 120 years old. Consider the possibility of a German 20-year old photographer in 1895 or so, assuming that's when the photo was taken. They might well have lived into the 1950s, which would mean the photo would still be under copyright in the country of origin, since the term of copyright lasts for 70 years after the author's death. We'd either need to track down the photographer and find their date of death, or find the first publication to determine if it was published anonymously. Parsecboy (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- is i an unlikely case. But anyway, can't we just leave it on Commons and on enwiki? So in case it is deleted there it is still available. --Arnd (talk) 16:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's not how it works, unfortunately; we can't just assume a photo is PD because it's 120 years old. Consider the possibility of a German 20-year old photographer in 1895 or so, assuming that's when the photo was taken. They might well have lived into the 1950s, which would mean the photo would still be under copyright in the country of origin, since the term of copyright lasts for 70 years after the author's death. We'd either need to track down the photographer and find their date of death, or find the first publication to determine if it was published anonymously. Parsecboy (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)