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Trans-Neptunian planets
You just reverted my edit. Why? The article clearly says: "Planets beyond the orbit of Neptune, or even Pluto, appear in several works of science fiction." In my example, it was referred to as the tenth planet, because Pluto was still considered a planet back then. Today it would have been called the ninth planet. It's in out solar system, but beyond the orbit of Neptune and Pluto, so why was it reverted? Silbad (talk) 04:00, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The article is not meant to enumerate every single depiction of fictional planets beyond the orbit of Neptune or Pluto. Rather, it is supposed to cover each aspect in WP:PROPORTION to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject. That is to say, examples should come from sources on the overarching topic of Fictional planets of the Solar System/Trans-Neptunian planets in fiction, as outlined in my edit summary. TompaDompa (talk) 04:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- From the article: "In Jules Verne's 1889 short story "In the Year 2889", the discovery of a planet beyond Neptune called "Olympus" is mentioned. Two 1931 short stories by Victor Rousseau Emanuel feature such planets: "Outlaws of the Sun", where the planet Circe has low gravity and is inhabited by primitive giants, and "Revolt on Inferno", where the planet Inferno has a hostile environment and is used as a remote penal colony." I really don't see how examples like that are different from my example. Much of the article is just examples. Not sure how many fictional planets outside Neptune and Pluto there are in fiction. If it is the source that is the problem and not the examples themselves, it should be irrelevant as long as it is trustworthy (and I have the comic, so I know it is). Silbad (talk) 04:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- They are different because those are examples discussed by sources covering the topic of trans-Neptunian/trans-Plutonian planets in fiction. As WP:PROPORTION says,
An article should not give undue weight to minor aspects of its subject but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight proportional to its treatment in the body of reliable, published material on the subject.
"On the subject" is key. TompaDompa (talk) 04:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)- Well, I still disagree, and it feels a bit like gatekeeping, but I'm not gonna waste any more time on it. Either way, it should be mentioned in the section, using this function: Silbad (talk) 04:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- They are different because those are examples discussed by sources covering the topic of trans-Neptunian/trans-Plutonian planets in fiction. As WP:PROPORTION says,
- From the article: "In Jules Verne's 1889 short story "In the Year 2889", the discovery of a planet beyond Neptune called "Olympus" is mentioned. Two 1931 short stories by Victor Rousseau Emanuel feature such planets: "Outlaws of the Sun", where the planet Circe has low gravity and is inhabited by primitive giants, and "Revolt on Inferno", where the planet Inferno has a hostile environment and is used as a remote penal colony." I really don't see how examples like that are different from my example. Much of the article is just examples. Not sure how many fictional planets outside Neptune and Pluto there are in fiction. If it is the source that is the problem and not the examples themselves, it should be irrelevant as long as it is trustworthy (and I have the comic, so I know it is). Silbad (talk) 04:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks
Re: this. You noticed this faster than I did (they don't have a system for notifying authors when stuff is published, and I don't follow their updates otherwise...). Unless I get distracted, I want to write up about some more modern writers for them in the coming months/years... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:56, 17 August 2024 (UTC)