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:::And you *admitted* you were checking my contributions - which combined with you following me to multiple articles and always disagreeing or reverting is pretty much an admission of WP:STALKing and WP:HARASSMENT.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 19:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
:::And you *admitted* you were checking my contributions - which combined with you following me to multiple articles and always disagreeing or reverting is pretty much an admission of WP:STALKing and WP:HARASSMENT.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 19:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
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::::"Neo-nazi" is well-sourced, as it's supported by both HuffPost.fr and LesInrockuptibles. Since the web is full of photos of VZ giving the Nazi salute in front of a flag with a swastika, the claim that she's a Nazi is unlikely to be disputed. Ukrainian press is used and can be used as a source and to establish notability. Could you please indicate, VM, which statements in the article are not supported by sources and are likely to be challenged? This would make our work much easier. [[User:Gitz6666|Gitz]] ([[User talk:Gitz6666|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Gitz6666|contribs]]) 19:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
::::"Neo-nazi" is well-sourced, as it's supported by both HuffPost.fr and LesInrockuptibles. Since the web is full of photos of VZ giving the Nazi salute in front of a flag with a swastika, the claim that she's a Nazi is unlikely to be disputed. Ukrainian press is used and can be used as a source and to establish notability. Could you please indicate, VM, which statements in the article are not supported by sources and are likely to be challenged? This would make our work much easier. [[User:Gitz6666|Gitz]] ([[User talk:Gitz6666|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Gitz6666|contribs]]) 19:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::<small>I've never followed you on multiple articles, and I've already explained to you the reason why I was checking your contributions [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Volunteer_Marek&diff=1126689639&oldid=1126685837&diffmode=source]. So please, I insist, stop casting aspersions and address [[WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE]]s where it is appropriate to do so.</small> [[User:Gitz6666|Gitz]] ([[User talk:Gitz6666|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Gitz6666|contribs]]) 19:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
:::::<small>I've never followed you on multiple articles, and I've already explained to you the reason why I was checking your contributions [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Volunteer_Marek&diff=1126689639&oldid=1126685837&diffmode=source]. So please, I insist, stop casting aspersions and address [[WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE]]s where it is appropriate to do so.</small> [[User:Gitz6666|Gitz]] ([[User talk:Gitz6666|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Gitz6666|contribs]]) 19:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Since this is the article you followed me to and since this is what you decided to make into a [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]] it seems like a perfectly appropriate place to address your behavior. You are doing the *exact same thing* as you did on the [[Torture in Ukraine]] page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Torture_in_Ukraine&diff=prev&oldid=1123371722], where you showed up to revert me out of the blue, caused a massive amount of unnecessary drama, wound up at ANI and almost got sanctioned for disruptive behavior and harassment. Guess what? THAT article, after all the drama you caused STILL got redirected in the end, just like I redirected it originally, just like nine other editors (who, you refused to listen to and respect) originally suggested. So it appears you now found THIS article as a venue to try and repeat that sorry affair again. For what? Please drop the [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]] and the revenge edit warring.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 19:47, 10 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Redirecting the article?
I don't see the point of redirecting this article to Aidar Battalion, where Zaverukha is not even mentioned [1]. Besides, if one doubts the notability of the subject, AfD should be the venue for addressing that concern. Contentious and unsourced content can be immediately removed, but wiping out the whole article by redirecting it to nowhere is not OK. I ping editors from the article revision history: @Volunteer Marek, Yarkovesh, David Gerard, Onel5969, Origami2021, Amigao, and Mhorg: Gitz (talk) (contribs) 18:46, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- This is one massive BLP vio on a non notable person. The presence of garbage sources like Daily Mail makes it pretty clear this is a hatchet job. The few reliable sources either do not mention her or mention her very briefly. BLP is non negotiable - see the notice on top of this talk.
- Also, Gitz, you really need to stop WP:STALKing my edits. Not gonna ask again. Volunteer Marek 18:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- I've already tald you that I'm not stalking you, so please take your complaint about stalking where it belongs rather than casting aspersion on this talk page. With regard to sources, this source seems good: Trisko Darden, Jessica; Alexis, Henshaw; Ora, Szekely. Insurgent Women: Female Combatants in Civil Wars. ISBN 1626166668. It says that
Other women appear to glorify their newfound ability to engage in violence. Vita Zaverukha stands out in this respect
, and then it goes on reporting information about her. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 19:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC)- This is not enough to establish notability especially since if you look at the sources it’s just repeating stuff from Daily Mail etc.
- And you *admitted* you were checking my contributions - which combined with you following me to multiple articles and always disagreeing or reverting is pretty much an admission of WP:STALKing and WP:HARASSMENT. Volunteer Marek 19:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- "Neo-nazi" is well-sourced, as it's supported by both HuffPost.fr and LesInrockuptibles. Since the web is full of photos of VZ giving the Nazi salute in front of a flag with a swastika, the claim that she's a Nazi is unlikely to be disputed. Ukrainian press is used and can be used as a source and to establish notability. Could you please indicate, VM, which statements in the article are not supported by sources and are likely to be challenged? This would make our work much easier. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 19:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- I've never followed you on multiple articles, and I've already explained to you the reason why I was checking your contributions [2]. So please, I insist, stop casting aspersions and address WP:CONDUCTDISPUTEs where it is appropriate to do so. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 19:45, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Since this is the article you followed me to and since this is what you decided to make into a WP:BATTLEGROUND it seems like a perfectly appropriate place to address your behavior. You are doing the *exact same thing* as you did on the Torture in Ukraine page [3], where you showed up to revert me out of the blue, caused a massive amount of unnecessary drama, wound up at ANI and almost got sanctioned for disruptive behavior and harassment. Guess what? THAT article, after all the drama you caused STILL got redirected in the end, just like I redirected it originally, just like nine other editors (who, you refused to listen to and respect) originally suggested. So it appears you now found THIS article as a venue to try and repeat that sorry affair again. For what? Please drop the WP:BATTLEGROUND and the revenge edit warring. Volunteer Marek 19:47, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- "Neo-nazi" is well-sourced, as it's supported by both HuffPost.fr and LesInrockuptibles. Since the web is full of photos of VZ giving the Nazi salute in front of a flag with a swastika, the claim that she's a Nazi is unlikely to be disputed. Ukrainian press is used and can be used as a source and to establish notability. Could you please indicate, VM, which statements in the article are not supported by sources and are likely to be challenged? This would make our work much easier. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 19:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- I've already tald you that I'm not stalking you, so please take your complaint about stalking where it belongs rather than casting aspersion on this talk page. With regard to sources, this source seems good: Trisko Darden, Jessica; Alexis, Henshaw; Ora, Szekely. Insurgent Women: Female Combatants in Civil Wars. ISBN 1626166668. It says that