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Elevation
The city can't be at both 1800 metres and the foot of a 2760 foot mountain, that makes no sense.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.162.25 (talk) 20:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
The town of Erigavo definitely does not have a population of 100,000. The region of Sanaag could have a population of 100,000
Agree. 100,000 was a population figure for the region, used by the Syad Barre government in the 1980s. The population of Erigavo in that decade was variously estimated at between 5,000 and 10,000. it should be remembered that Sanaag is a very dry region with only a few areas where there is any agriculture (in a few tugs coming out of the main range along the top of the escarpment. There is not a single tarmac road in the whole region.
P.s erigavo is one the oldest citys in somali. erigavo has maintain a high influx of refuges from southern somalia and alot of farmers have move from the country-side, erigavo has growed 3 times the size of the barre government. seening a lot of housing construction from people abroad and within somalia.
Article name
Apparently "Ceerigabo" is not used as the English-language name. This being the English Wikipedia, I propose we rename the article. What isn't clear, though, is whether "Erigabo" or "Erigavo" is more commonly used. The latter is used throughout the article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Done, moved article to Erigavo. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:33, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Dear Writter
I am really disapointed.. all what are you saying is quit far from the truth.
becouse you are claiming that Erigavo inhabitants are only 5000 to 10,000 but you didnot base it any facts and figures... but let me remember you onething.
-According to the last Somaliland voter registration more than 130,000 were registered and there are international observers. u can times atleast 3 for real conses.
- As You mentioned that Erigavo is dry land... but Its very famous agriculture so there are almost thousands of people who are dependent to that section and they are densily populated.
so plz try to base ur argument facts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.81.181.139 (talk) 13:33, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
History section
Under the history section, where did you get your information from with regards to Warsengali occupation of the area (it seems that you are implying that they are the original Somali inhabitants of the area)? Please clarify... Jeff333 —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:21, 8 November 2008.
- You'd have to go through the article's history and see who added it. I've made an attempt to improve it but it still needs attribution. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
talk about the Dhulbahante. Warsangeli. Refugees??????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3abdush (talk • contribs) 01:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
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Somaliland has a abig camp for the [edit] Dhulbahante. Warsangeli. Refugees in sanaag write about that ???????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3abdush (talk • contribs) 01:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
history
the hole article needs re change and needs sources for the claim that the city fell to the mad mullah which history sources never back and there are more to be writing about the city and its inhabitants which mainly are Isaaq like i say...needs sources and rewriting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohikan allebbey (talk • contribs) 03:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Demographics
Northern94 can you please go to the talk page instead of edit waring? AcidSnow (talk) 18:53, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I did not know you started a talk page already. could you show me how you did it? And lets try to worked it out on the Demographic of Erigavo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northern94 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
and please show me the full pages in the Oxford book that supports your claim on the Demo of Erigavo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northern94 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Indeed it seems that your so called source does state the Warsangali as the largest clan in Erigavo. That is impossible. Where are you by the way?86.99.100.29 (talk) 18:49, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
The largest clan in Erigavo
WTF!
The Largest clans residing in Erigavo are:
Muse Isma'il
Sa'ad Younis
Muse Arre
Mind you they are ALL from the Habar younis a sub clan of the Habar Garhjis confederation of the larger Isaaq clan.
Second in numbers there is the Habar Je'llo, another sub clan but from the Habar Hubshoo confederation of the Isaaq.
How come you claim the biggest & largest city in Sanaag to be inhabited by the Warsanagali who equal in numbers the small Arab clan of the Isaaq? Not only that, you just added the Dhulubahante to the mix and toke out the only valid fact which it's the Habar younis!. Both Harti clans have a very few numbers there in line with the minority Gaboy and Sameroon clans.
I strongly disagree with this fault description over Erigavo population.83.110.229.178 (talk) 06:54, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Clans
Midday,
Instead of the unconstructive RV's please show your case on the talk page of Erigavo.92.96.179.130 (talk) 06:19, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're on about. There's no contention as far as I'm aware that Harti and Isaaq are the two main clans in Sanaag; Harti in the east, Isaaq in the west. Please leave a reply if any here. Middayexpress (talk) 16:42, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- Again you're wrong Midday, The western Sanaag is primarily inhabited by the Isaaq. This includes the largest city in Sanaag Erigavo and the second largest city El AfweynThe Warsangali inhabitant the relatively under populated portion of Sanaag which it's the eastern side. Now putting things into perspective, The Isaaq should be mentioned first since the are clearly the dominant majority in Sanaag page. As for Erigavo which it is the reason we are here in the first place, It is purely dominated by the Habar Je'llo and the Habar Younis in 1997 but today the Habar Younis dominate the four sides of the city. There is no need to mention the Harti since they almost don't exist in the city anymore, and even if they do, they are a drop in an ocean.92.96.176.42 (talk) 09:15, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's what I meant but I was typing fast and got the directions mixed up. The broader Sanaag province is indeed primarily inhabited by Harti in the east toward Bari and Isaaq in the west toward Woqooyi Galbeed. Harti are noted because Erigavo is the province's center. Middayexpress (talk) 16:29, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Why they are noted? There is Habar younis living in Lasqoray and Badan but they are not mentioned there because they are a minority. While you keep injecting the Harti clans who are no different than the Gaboy and the Sameroon living there as well in Erigavo. When there is two or clans living in the same town with no obvious majority than we can mention the other clans. But since 1989 the SNM Isaaq (Eastern Habar Younis) division of the movement takeover the city. Even before than, The Habar Younis &Habar Je'llo were the majority. I don't see the point of injecting the Harti's into Every city of western Sanaag.92.96.164.236 (talk) 03:37, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's what I meant but I was typing fast and got the directions mixed up. The broader Sanaag province is indeed primarily inhabited by Harti in the east toward Bari and Isaaq in the west toward Woqooyi Galbeed. Harti are noted because Erigavo is the province's center. Middayexpress (talk) 16:29, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- Again you're wrong Midday, The western Sanaag is primarily inhabited by the Isaaq. This includes the largest city in Sanaag Erigavo and the second largest city El AfweynThe Warsangali inhabitant the relatively under populated portion of Sanaag which it's the eastern side. Now putting things into perspective, The Isaaq should be mentioned first since the are clearly the dominant majority in Sanaag page. As for Erigavo which it is the reason we are here in the first place, It is purely dominated by the Habar Je'llo and the Habar Younis in 1997 but today the Habar Younis dominate the four sides of the city. There is no need to mention the Harti since they almost don't exist in the city anymore, and even if they do, they are a drop in an ocean.92.96.176.42 (talk) 09:15, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
- And for your information, Erigavo is more closer to the west than the east. I know where is this heading Midday, we are not discussion the location of Erigavo we are discussing the demographic composition of Erigavo. The Isaaq does not only live in Erigavo but the go deeper to the east as this map shows http://www.eth.mpg.de/cms/en/people/d/mhoehne/project.html Erigavo should ne noted as Isaaq city perioude 92.96.164.236 (talk) 03:45, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- What is asserted is that most residents in Erigavo hail from the Habr Jallo and Habr Yonis Isaaq subclans. Harti are noted in the context of the broader Sanaag region because the link itself remarks on the unusual clan composition of the town (which is the provincial capital) relative to Sanaag as a whole. Middayexpress (talk) 16:33, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- You're not being consistent. On all other towns/cities in Somaliland/Somalia articles across Wikipedia, you never bring up the demography of the district of which the town/city is located. You only mention the number of the population in the borader district like what have you done here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Khorey#Demographics and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabiley#Demographics and many other places. If you want to mention the other Harti residing in Erigavo District or in the general Sanaag region then it's fine but do it on that particular page. This page is about Erigavo as a city, thus, only the clans residing there are concerned.92.96.130.59 (talk) 20:56, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- That is different since of course Las Khorey and Gabiley aren't regional capitals, whereas Erigavo is. It's also your link itself that mentions Harti in relation to Sanaag and Erigavo. Middayexpress (talk) 17:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- You're not being consistent. On all other towns/cities in Somaliland/Somalia articles across Wikipedia, you never bring up the demography of the district of which the town/city is located. You only mention the number of the population in the borader district like what have you done here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Khorey#Demographics and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabiley#Demographics and many other places. If you want to mention the other Harti residing in Erigavo District or in the general Sanaag region then it's fine but do it on that particular page. This page is about Erigavo as a city, thus, only the clans residing there are concerned.92.96.130.59 (talk) 20:56, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- What is asserted is that most residents in Erigavo hail from the Habr Jallo and Habr Yonis Isaaq subclans. Harti are noted in the context of the broader Sanaag region because the link itself remarks on the unusual clan composition of the town (which is the provincial capital) relative to Sanaag as a whole. Middayexpress (talk) 16:33, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- And for your information, Erigavo is more closer to the west than the east. I know where is this heading Midday, we are not discussion the location of Erigavo we are discussing the demographic composition of Erigavo. The Isaaq does not only live in Erigavo but the go deeper to the east as this map shows http://www.eth.mpg.de/cms/en/people/d/mhoehne/project.html Erigavo should ne noted as Isaaq city perioude 92.96.164.236 (talk) 03:45, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
If you haven't noticed already Midday, you're talking to a sock of User:Reer Woqooyi. AcidSnow (talk) 21:04, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Now do I need to call a mediator or you gonaa change the misplaced information? You better pray the one I'm calling is busy as the last one.92.96.166.224 (talk) 05:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- I know your active User:Middayexpress If you have no answer than I suppose you agree with my resolution. I shall add the following statement in 24 hours if you have no objections "Erigavo has a population of around 41,000 inhabitants.[6] The broader Erigavo District has a total population of 114,846 residents.[7]The city is primarily inhabited by people from the Somali ethnic group, with the Habar Je'llo and the Habar Younis sub clans of the Isaaq, especially well represented." I hope you are not pulling my legs Midday by answering me with wide time gaps, if you have rational response, then please post it ASAP.217.164.186.190 (talk) 13:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- Umm, the above is already noted. Middayexpress (talk) 17:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- I know your active User:Middayexpress If you have no answer than I suppose you agree with my resolution. I shall add the following statement in 24 hours if you have no objections "Erigavo has a population of around 41,000 inhabitants.[6] The broader Erigavo District has a total population of 114,846 residents.[7]The city is primarily inhabited by people from the Somali ethnic group, with the Habar Je'llo and the Habar Younis sub clans of the Isaaq, especially well represented." I hope you are not pulling my legs Midday by answering me with wide time gaps, if you have rational response, then please post it ASAP.217.164.186.190 (talk) 13:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, AcidSnow; it seems that way. Middayexpress (talk) 17:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- No, the context your both representing is kinda complex and misleading for the average reader. It is also very different than your approaches on all other Somali towns and cities. My man objections are: 1- It mentions the Sanaag region which It has its own page, this page is about Erigavo as a city 2- It implies that both Harti clans are larger than the Isaaq in Sanaag which it is wrong and irrelevant 3- there is no "various Isaaq clans" in Sanaag only 2 The Habar Younis & Habar Je'llo again irrelevant to Erigavo.
It seems that you both trying to make the Darood clans so big on wiki that you resort to these silly tactics of claiming other's cities. I see that you have nothing to add so I shall go forward and change the Demographics. I don't intend to make this longer than what it is, if any of you reverted my version I shall ask for mediation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.96.134.5 (talk) 02:02, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- Let him be Midday. There's no need for you to waste your time on User:Reer Woqooyi. This sock will soon be blocked as well. AcidSnow (talk) 03:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- User:AcidSnow stop crossing my comments. Instead of booty clapping to your boyfriend here, if you have nothing to add, I suggest you leave. Back to the issue, it seems you have added "minority clans" to the description recently Midday. Why did you do that? Aren't the one that claimed for years that this city is "primarily inhabited by the Warsangli" the irony after I exposed your lies you try to rush everybody in that place since you know its an Isaaq city. I never denied there is minority clans but that what they are a minority (including yours). The report you attached deals with the security situation in Erigavo district not Erigavo city. Now in the 'intrudaction' it mentions the Harti in Erigavo well I have two sources that stating the opposite this http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwmain?page=search&docid=3ae6a5bf0&skip=0&query=Erigavo%20clans&coi=SOM]] and this |http://www.eth.mpg.de/cms/en/people/d/mhoehne/project.html Obviuosly my international sources have more wieght than the your refrence that was made by a local orgonization recently established in 2009. I here by notify both of you that I have request a mediation.92.96.134.5 (talk) 06:12, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- You might want to see WP:SOCK, Reer Woqooyi. Anyways, the document is from 2013 not 2009. Nor is it about the district rather the city itself. Middayexpress wasn't the editor that add it either, it was actually me. In contrast, the RefWorld article is from 1997 which is almost two decades ago. AcidSnow (talk) 06:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- User:AcidSnow stop crossing my comments. Instead of booty clapping to your boyfriend here, if you have nothing to add, I suggest you leave. Back to the issue, it seems you have added "minority clans" to the description recently Midday. Why did you do that? Aren't the one that claimed for years that this city is "primarily inhabited by the Warsangli" the irony after I exposed your lies you try to rush everybody in that place since you know its an Isaaq city. I never denied there is minority clans but that what they are a minority (including yours). The report you attached deals with the security situation in Erigavo district not Erigavo city. Now in the 'intrudaction' it mentions the Harti in Erigavo well I have two sources that stating the opposite this http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwmain?page=search&docid=3ae6a5bf0&skip=0&query=Erigavo%20clans&coi=SOM]] and this |http://www.eth.mpg.de/cms/en/people/d/mhoehne/project.html Obviuosly my international sources have more wieght than the your refrence that was made by a local orgonization recently established in 2009. I here by notify both of you that I have request a mediation.92.96.134.5 (talk) 06:12, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- So your tag teaming now? oh how cute.... Listen you bitch made AcidSnow, My source is from a reputable international organization. Your's is from a relatively inexperienced local organization that briefly mentioned Erigavo itself at the beginning. Even in your own reference it mentions The Isaaq clans first which means they are larger than the later. I find it shocking that even in 2015 you minorities still claim our cities. There is nothing more pathetic than that. I never denied there is Warsangali living in Erigavo there is also some Dhulbahante but the fact remains that Erigavo is an Isaaq dominant city in both numbers and politics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erigavo#cite_note-Rotffmtsak-9 http://www.mbali.info/doc102.htm We don't live only in Erigavo we expanded far to the east.http://www.eth.mpg.de/cms/en/people/d/mhoehne/project.html You remember when we kicked you out of the city back in the 90s right? Only after the grand conference we allowed your skinny ass back in. We would have conquered LaasAnood if your elders didn't come to us in Oog and suck our ceeb out of fear. Know your place next time peasant.86.99.98.79 (talk) 14:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- It seems that you have lost it. AcidSnow (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- No I'm just stating facts! What is your argument now?92.96.164.122 (talk) 14:36, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- It seems that you have lost it. AcidSnow (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
- So your tag teaming now? oh how cute.... Listen you bitch made AcidSnow, My source is from a reputable international organization. Your's is from a relatively inexperienced local organization that briefly mentioned Erigavo itself at the beginning. Even in your own reference it mentions The Isaaq clans first which means they are larger than the later. I find it shocking that even in 2015 you minorities still claim our cities. There is nothing more pathetic than that. I never denied there is Warsangali living in Erigavo there is also some Dhulbahante but the fact remains that Erigavo is an Isaaq dominant city in both numbers and politics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erigavo#cite_note-Rotffmtsak-9 http://www.mbali.info/doc102.htm We don't live only in Erigavo we expanded far to the east.http://www.eth.mpg.de/cms/en/people/d/mhoehne/project.html You remember when we kicked you out of the city back in the 90s right? Only after the grand conference we allowed your skinny ass back in. We would have conquered LaasAnood if your elders didn't come to us in Oog and suck our ceeb out of fear. Know your place next time peasant.86.99.98.79 (talk) 14:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)