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# For characters from the games, the character must have made a substantial (e.g. non cameo) appearance in ''at least'' '''two''' ''Sonic'' games. Because ''Sonic'' has such a large cast of characters, this list is primarily dedicated to major ones. One-off or minor characters are considered out of this list's scope and should be covered within their respective game's article rather than here. |
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#:An example of a character who '''meets''' this criteria is Ray the Flying Squirrel, who makes substantial appearances in ''[[SegaSonic the Hedgehog]]'' and ''[[Sonic Mania Plus]]''. This is the minimum required for a character to be considered noteworthy for this list. |
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#:An example of a character who does '''not''' meet this criteria is Princess Elise, whose only substantial appearance is in [[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' (2006)]]. Unless she makes another non-cameo appearance in the future, she fails the inclusion criteria. |
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#:An example of a character who '''meets''' this criteria is Princess Sally, who made substantial appearances in the [[Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series)|Saturday morning ''Sonic'' cartoon]] and the [[Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)|Archie Comics ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' series]]. Therefore, she can be listed, even though she has never made a substantial appearance in a ''Sonic'' game. |
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== Fang the Sniper vs Nack the Weasel == |
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Why are we using the name "Nack the Weasel" over Fang the Sniper? He used that name in only one game, the English localization of Sonic Triple Trouble. Every other game that featured him called him Fang the Sniper in every region, even USA. Even Sonic the Fighters did; it renamed Eggman to Robotnik outside of Japan but kept Fang's name unchanged. So I think it would make more sense to call him that. [[User:Bluest Bird|Bluest Bird]] ([[User talk:Bluest Bird|talk]]) 09:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:''Sonic Triple Trouble'' is really the only game he's ever had a significant role in, and we favor English names on the English Wikipedia. Not sure it really matters, both [[Nack the Weasel]] and [[Fang the Sniper]] redirect to the same place, and both names are mentioned in the opening words of its entry. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 14:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC) |
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::His role in Sonic the Fighter was no lesser than that of most characters present in that game. And why does that even matter? The fact that he was called Fang in 3 out of 4 games makes it his most prominent name in the games, and the one that superseded his previous English name. Moreover, Fang ''is'' an English name as well, seeing how it's the one used by the localizations of most games that feature him. Just like Eggman. [[User:Bluest Bird|Bluest Bird]] ([[User talk:Bluest Bird|talk]]) 15:20, 29 August 2017 (UTC) |
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:::To complement my previous point, I'll add that even the news media referred to him as Fang back when he still appeared in the games, as this '96 magazine article in English[http://www.sonic-cult.org/imagebin/BossMSFang.jpg] about Sonic X-treme shows, indicating that Sega of America called him that even in the context of American-made games like X-treme. So yeah, this notion about Fang being a Japan-only name is a big fan misconception. If anything, Nack is more akin to Amy's original name in American Sonic CD, Princess Sally: a localization name that was scrapped right after the first game, which makes it obsolete. [[User:Bluest Bird|Bluest Bird]] ([[User talk:Bluest Bird|talk]]) 15:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== Mr. Touma's Twitter == |
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What do you mean "random, unverified Twitter users"? toumartcom isn't a random Twitter account; it's the account of Touma, Fang's character designer and creator. [[User:Bluest Bird|Bluest Bird]] ([[User talk:Bluest Bird|talk]]) 20:19, 14 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:Lets take a couple steps back here - there's a number of things you haven't established yet. Everything needs to be covered by reliable sources, and there's much missing here: |
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#Can it be confirmed that this is his Twitter account? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter#Verified_accounts It is not a verified account]. Anyone could go out and create a Twitter account to the capacity of "Touma" and "Art". |
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#The tweet is in Japanese. Can it be confirmed that it was correctly translated? Words often have many/multiple ways of translation. |
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#Do we have verification that Touma is the artist at all? That's not sourced, or even mentioned, anywhere in the article. |
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#Does it make sense to include? If no sources ever reported on this, and all we have is an off hand comment on Twitter, is it of importance? |
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#Does it make sense to implement like you did [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_characters&type=revision&diff=810331858&oldid=810057293 here], where you made an already convoluted sentence even more complicated? (Try reading [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sonic_the_Hedgehog_characters&type=revision&diff=810331858&oldid=810057293#Fang_the_Sniper that opening sentence] out-loud. It's a mess.) |
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:For these reasons and more, yes, I reverted your addition. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 21:15, 14 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::All right, here's the source that Touma designed Fang: |
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::https://web.archive.org/web/20160324051409/https://artoyz.com/shop/blog/interviews/mise-au-point-avec-touma/ |
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::As for confirming that that's his Twitter account, you can verify it by doing the following: Go to Touma's site[http://touma.biz/], click on "Blog", and then click on "Twitter" on the right sidebar. It will take you to the Twitter account that posted the tweet. |
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::About the translation, fans have translated the tweet themselves, and I ran it on Google Translate as well as an extra check. If you still doubt it, then who get someone you deem a trustworthy Japanese translator to translate it. |
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::Finally, I would think the character's species is an important attribute about a Sonic character like him. And I disagree it makes things convoluted, as the addition was just a single sentence in parenthesis. It didn't affect the paragraph's structure or anything. [[User:Bluest Bird|Bluest Bird]] ([[User talk:Bluest Bird|talk]]) 23:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Alright, I'm fine with inclusion now that you've verified everything, though I think a different form/context may be better, as to avoid this issue happening again years in the future, with so much of the context missing to your average reader. Perhaps a separate sentence explaining something to the capacity of "According to Touma, Fang's original character designer, Fang was initially intended to be a [[wolf]]/[[jerboa]] hybrid animal" or something. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 17:01, 15 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::::Very well. Would we be putting that sentence in references or the article itself? [[User:Bluest Bird|Bluest Bird]] ([[User talk:Bluest Bird|talk]]) 15:27, 17 November 2017 (UTC) |
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== Should Tom & Maddie Wachowski be added to the "Characters in other media"? == |
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== Splitting [[Chaotix]] == |
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I was mainly wondering whether it's time to add Tom & Maddie to the "Characters in Other Media" section. As they're very important characters for the movie franchise, with them both being in three films as lead characters by the end of the year and Maddie even having a big role in the Knuckles show too (plus they were both in the "Prequill" comic for Sonic 2). |
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Okay so I think I've found enough sources to split the Chaotix into their own separate article but I wanted to discuss it here before I make a move. When I was researching for ''[[Knuckles' Chaotix]]'', I found that the coverage of the characters was not stuff like "I like Espio" or "I don't like Vector". Some of the old magazine articles (such as [http://info.sonicretro.org/images/e/e6/Kc_SegaMagazine_Preview2_03.jpg this one]) went into excessive, ''in-depth'' detail on what each character's abilities were, controlled like, how they affected gameplay, and looked like. I've also found GameSpot and Destructoid articles dedicated entirely to them. Any thoughts? [[User:TheJoebro64|<span style="color:red"><small>JOE</small>{{#if:JOE||[[Category:Pages using small with an empty input parameter]]}}</span>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>{{#if:BRO||[[Category:Pages using small with an empty input parameter]]}}]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<font color="#D18719">64</font>]] 01:09, 16 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:It's hard to say, since you really only showed one source (though that one does look good.) but I'd recommend having a ''really'' strong case if you go for it - in the last few years, there's been a real trend of cutting down on articles for side ''Sonic'' characters (there's been like 8-10 merged I think now) and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sonic&action=history there's been a bunch of recent ''Sonic'' mergers lately too]. Fictions video game characters are generally pretty difficult - sources commonly don't provide significant coverage, and there's a number of experienced editors who patrol the area and redirect/merge them. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 01:38, 16 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::[http://www.ign.com/articles/2003/12/04/sonic-heroes-profiles-team-chaotix Well, here we go]. I've started a draft [[User:TheJoebro64/drafts/Chaotix|here]] to create a page for 'em. [[User:TheJoebro64|<span style="color:red"><small>JOE</small>{{#if:JOE||[[Category:Pages using small with an empty input parameter]]}}</span>]][[User talk:TheJoebro64|<small>BRO</small>{{#if:BRO||[[Category:Pages using small with an empty input parameter]]}}]][[Special:Contributions/TheJoebro64|<font color="#D18719">64</font>]] 22:41, 1 December 2017 (UTC) |
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They haven't been in games no, but neither has Chris Thorndyke and he's on there and Sally only had a small cameo in Spinball. So yeah, I just wanted to see if anyone else thinks we should add them now (maybe even Agent Stone too potentially). [[User:Tribal-Mand0|Tribal-Mand0]] ([[User talk:Tribal-Mand0|talk]]) 22:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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:See the inclusion criteria at the top of the page. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 23:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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::Technically then they should be allowed on right? Cause they've been in the movies, the Knuckles show and the prequel comic too. [[User:Tribal-Mand0|Tribal-Mand0]] ([[User talk:Tribal-Mand0|talk]]) 04:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:::How about when it comes to exclusive members of the Guardian Unit of Nations (or G.U.N. for short) should we find some sources to establish a section for it as well as sections for Tikal and Pachacamac (who [[Christopher Lloyd]] is voicing in ''Knuckles'') as both of them are currently redirecting to this article. --[[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] ([[User talk:Rtkat3|talk]]) 22:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2024 == |
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== I'm perfectly sure Big should have his own article == |
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[[Sonic the Hedgehog|''Sonic'' series]] may have a huge cast however, despite the oversize cast of the series, only about six of them get their own independent article while characters like Amy Rose can get into argument over she can have her own article. For Big, I have been writing a draft about Big within [[User:NatwonTSG2/Sonic#Big the Cat|a sandbox]] and I think it's ready and loaded to become an independent article on [[Wikipedia]] because I was able to find my three best sources which are 14 or 21, 22 and 24. Also for some still-in-topic discussion, I also to believe other ''Sonic'' characters might get it own independent article instead of being a section the list article so. [[User:NatwonTSG2|NatwonTSG2]] ([[User talk:NatwonTSG2|talk]]) 02:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:Which new sources that are significant coverage have you found? (It's best to link them rather than mention them by number like that since the numbering may change as it's being edited and altered.) [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 15:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I only think Big can really get his own article if other more important/prominent characters like Amy (who really needs one), Rouge, the Chaotix, etc. ever get their own first. [[User:Tribal-Mand0|Tribal-Mand0]] ([[User talk:Tribal-Mand0|talk]]) 21:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::Just seen he does has his own page then, the fact that Big has his own page yet Amy doesn't is very bizzare. [[User:Tribal-Mand0|Tribal-Mand0]] ([[User talk:Tribal-Mand0|talk]]) 22:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::They published their draft without waiting for any feedback. I'm not particularly convinced either should have articles in their current state/what people have proposed in the past. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 22:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Tribal-Mand0|Tribal-Mand0]] It usually doesn't matter if less important characters like for example, [[Bobby (Paper Mario)|Bobby]] from ''[[Paper Mario: The Origami King]]'' gets his own article before more important like Bowser. Jr did which has been redirected due of not showing notability so. [[User:NatwonTSG2|NatwonTSG2]] ([[User talk:NatwonTSG2|talk]]) 22:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Still though, I think at the very least Amy deserves her own page then, considering she is one of the core main characters of the franchise. [[User:Tribal-Mand0|Tribal-Mand0]] ([[User talk:Tribal-Mand0|talk]]) 23:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Again, that's not how it works. Read [[WP:NVGC]] and the [[WP:GNG]] for how it works. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 23:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::I have seen an [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Big the Cat|AFD discussion]] for Big the Cat. How minor is Big the Cat anyway? --[[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] ([[User talk:Rtkat3|talk]]) 18:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::What is that question supposed to mean? [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 22:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::I think it's supposed to mean that @[[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] has seen an AFD discussion for Big and wanted to know how minor he is. For the minor question, in my opinion, Big is not really a minor character in the series since he has made some important appearances in games like Sonic Adventure, Heroes and maybe Frontiers I guess? [[User:NatwonTSG2|NatwonTSG2]] ([[User talk:NatwonTSG2|talk]]) 13:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::Speaking frankly the "minor character" reasoning never sat right with me for that AfD, the bigger problem was the sourcing not really saying a lot about him to substantiate the article (no offense meant by that, I dug a bit too and struggled to find anything that could really carry it). But minor characters in a franchise can work perfectly fine as articles if they're picked up as fan favorites by media outlets or get some solid discussion behind them.--[[User:Kung Fu Man|Kung Fu Man]] ([[User talk:Kung Fu Man|talk]]) 13:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Should Tom & Maddie Wachowski be added to the "Characters in other media"?
I was mainly wondering whether it's time to add Tom & Maddie to the "Characters in Other Media" section. As they're very important characters for the movie franchise, with them both being in three films as lead characters by the end of the year and Maddie even having a big role in the Knuckles show too (plus they were both in the "Prequill" comic for Sonic 2).
They haven't been in games no, but neither has Chris Thorndyke and he's on there and Sally only had a small cameo in Spinball. So yeah, I just wanted to see if anyone else thinks we should add them now (maybe even Agent Stone too potentially). Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 22:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- See the inclusion criteria at the top of the page. Sergecross73 msg me 23:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Technically then they should be allowed on right? Cause they've been in the movies, the Knuckles show and the prequel comic too. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- How about when it comes to exclusive members of the Guardian Unit of Nations (or G.U.N. for short) should we find some sources to establish a section for it as well as sections for Tikal and Pachacamac (who Christopher Lloyd is voicing in Knuckles) as both of them are currently redirecting to this article. --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Technically then they should be allowed on right? Cause they've been in the movies, the Knuckles show and the prequel comic too. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please just let me edit the page thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 7s6uy8iwj (talk • contribs) 19:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done Please submit requested changes on the talk page. Sergecross73 msg me 19:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm perfectly sure Big should have his own article
Sonic series may have a huge cast however, despite the oversize cast of the series, only about six of them get their own independent article while characters like Amy Rose can get into argument over she can have her own article. For Big, I have been writing a draft about Big within a sandbox and I think it's ready and loaded to become an independent article on Wikipedia because I was able to find my three best sources which are 14 or 21, 22 and 24. Also for some still-in-topic discussion, I also to believe other Sonic characters might get it own independent article instead of being a section the list article so. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 02:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Which new sources that are significant coverage have you found? (It's best to link them rather than mention them by number like that since the numbering may change as it's being edited and altered.) Sergecross73 msg me 15:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I only think Big can really get his own article if other more important/prominent characters like Amy (who really needs one), Rouge, the Chaotix, etc. ever get their own first. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 21:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just seen he does has his own page then, the fact that Big has his own page yet Amy doesn't is very bizzare. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 22:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- They published their draft without waiting for any feedback. I'm not particularly convinced either should have articles in their current state/what people have proposed in the past. Sergecross73 msg me 22:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Tribal-Mand0 It usually doesn't matter if less important characters like for example, Bobby from Paper Mario: The Origami King gets his own article before more important like Bowser. Jr did which has been redirected due of not showing notability so. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 22:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still though, I think at the very least Amy deserves her own page then, considering she is one of the core main characters of the franchise. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Again, that's not how it works. Read WP:NVGC and the WP:GNG for how it works. Sergecross73 msg me 23:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have seen an AFD discussion for Big the Cat. How minor is Big the Cat anyway? --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- What is that question supposed to mean? Sergecross73 msg me 22:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think it's supposed to mean that @Rtkat3 has seen an AFD discussion for Big and wanted to know how minor he is. For the minor question, in my opinion, Big is not really a minor character in the series since he has made some important appearances in games like Sonic Adventure, Heroes and maybe Frontiers I guess? NatwonTSG2 (talk) 13:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking frankly the "minor character" reasoning never sat right with me for that AfD, the bigger problem was the sourcing not really saying a lot about him to substantiate the article (no offense meant by that, I dug a bit too and struggled to find anything that could really carry it). But minor characters in a franchise can work perfectly fine as articles if they're picked up as fan favorites by media outlets or get some solid discussion behind them.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think it's supposed to mean that @Rtkat3 has seen an AFD discussion for Big and wanted to know how minor he is. For the minor question, in my opinion, Big is not really a minor character in the series since he has made some important appearances in games like Sonic Adventure, Heroes and maybe Frontiers I guess? NatwonTSG2 (talk) 13:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- What is that question supposed to mean? Sergecross73 msg me 22:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have seen an AFD discussion for Big the Cat. How minor is Big the Cat anyway? --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Again, that's not how it works. Read WP:NVGC and the WP:GNG for how it works. Sergecross73 msg me 23:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still though, I think at the very least Amy deserves her own page then, considering she is one of the core main characters of the franchise. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Just seen he does has his own page then, the fact that Big has his own page yet Amy doesn't is very bizzare. Tribal-Mand0 (talk) 22:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)