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Sample DYK suggestion strings
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Symbols
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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on May 15
Gustav Natvig-Pedersen
- ... that Gustav Natvig-Pedersen, a President of the Storting in Norway, also wrote ortographic dictionaries?
5x expanded by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 14:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Downing Street mortar attack
- ... that in 1991 the IRA attempted to assassinate John Major and his War Cabinet with a mortar attack on Downing Street?
Created by One Night In Hackney (talk). Self nom at 13:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
List of PWG World Champions
- ... that out of the thirteen wrestlers who have held the PWG World Championship, Low Ki is the only to have never been defeated for it as of May 2009?
Created by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Smart Gilas
...that the Smart Gilas players were offered multi-million peso contracts even if a huge percentage of the team was still in college?
Created by Maverx (talk) 15:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 15:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Skeffington Lutwidge
- ... that Horatio Nelson called Skeffington Lutwidge, his commander on two separate occasions, 'that good old man'?
Created by Benea (talk) 07:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 07:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 09:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Destroy Destroy Destroy
- ... that Destroy Destroy Destroy is a musical group native of Tennessee, which plays viking metal, a music genre predominated by Scandinavian bands?
- ALT1:... that Destroy Destroy Destroy played their first show in a pizzeria as the opening band for Mastodon?
5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 06:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Ole Thomesen
- ... that in 1853, Ole Thomesen signed the contract to commission the paddle steamer Skibladner, which still exists?
Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 14
N100
- ... that the N100 (pictured) brain response to auditory stimuli can help predict coma patients' probability of recovery?
- Comment: Some of you might recognize this image, I used it in my hook for Early left anterior negativity back in December. Well, actually it's a picture of the N100, not the ELAN...I used it back then because it still helps show what the ELAN looks like, but it's really more accurate here. But if you're averse to using an image that has already been up once (in the off chance that anyone remembers), feel free not to use it.
Created/expanded by LittleHow (talk). Nominated by Rjanag (talk) at 14:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Nazi board games
- ... that the objective of the Nazi board game Juden Raus! ("Jews out") was to move Jews across a map to "collection points" outside the city walls for deportation?
Created by Scott-Schweickert (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 14:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Clatskanie Middle/High School
- ... that a student at Clatskanie Middle/High School organized a statewide food drive in Oregon that earned the student a national award?
- Comment: Formerly a redirect
Created/expanded by Tedder (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 09:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Rick Gibson
- ... that Rick Gibson intended his human earrings sculpture to raise questions about the appropriateness and usage of such materials for art and self adornment?
Created by Synergy (talk). Self nom at 01:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Date and length check out. AGF on offline source. It's a pity that image is fair use! Cheers, Paxse (talk) 04:13, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Switzerland–Uruguay relations
- ... that Uruguay is known as the "Switzerland of the Americas" from its adoption of Swiss based banking laws?
5x expanded by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) and Docu (talk) primarily, with lesser help by A Nobody (talk). Nominated by A Nobody (talk) at 01:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
1352 characters of prose. This is less than both the 1500 character minimum and the 2135 character mark for the 5x expansion. Shubinator (talk) 01:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- On a side note, there seems to be a glitch in which the link to Richard Arthur Norton talk page loses the space between the - and ).Smallman12q (talk) 01:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. Human error, not a template problem. Shubinator (talk) 01:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Te Amo (song)
- ... that the song "Te Amo", performed by Panamanian singer-songwriter Makano, re-entered in the Billboard Hot Latin Songs chart at number 1?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 21:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the song "Te Amo", performed by Panamanian singer-songwriter Makano, became his first number-one single in the Billboard Hot Latin Songs chart?
date and length check out fine. AGF on the foreign language ref. Nice to have a Panamanian DYK. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 04:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Sabrina De Sousa
- ... that diplomat Sabrina De Sousa in 2009 sued the United States government to get diplomatic immunity?
Created/expanded by Bearian (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
1184 characters of prose and classified as a stub. Please expand to at least 1500 characters. Shubinator (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I will do. Bearian (talk) 21:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC) I hope that fixes it. Bearian (talk) 21:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Moroccan parliamentary election, 2002
- ... that the number of women elected in the 2002 Moroccan parliamentary election increased to 35 from only two in the previous election in 1997?
- ALT1:... that the Justice and Development Party chose to not stand in all of the seats in the 2002 Moroccan parliamentary election in order to avoid causing trouble by winning too many seats?
5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
for the first hook and
for the ALT with offline ref. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 04:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Thomas Baker (Royal Navy officer)
- ... that Captain Thomas Baker played a significant role in bringing about three battles during the Napoleonic Wars: Copenhagen, Trafalgar, and Cape Ortegal?
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length and dates verified. Might the hook need changing (interesting as it is) to make sure it is explicitly referenced? - Jarry1250 (t, c) 17:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- In the 'Rewards and later commands' section - 'By the end of 1815 he could reflect that his active career had included playing a significant role in bringing about three of the decisive actions of the Napoleonic Wars, Copenhagen, Trafalgar, and Cape Ortegal.[21]' Is that sufficient? Benea (talk) 17:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- If Tracy says that, I for one would be willing to
accept the source in good faith. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 20:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- If Tracy says that, I for one would be willing to
Travis Edmonson
- ... that folk singer Travis Edmonson was an honorary member of the Pascua Yaqui Tribe and helped create a dictionary for their language?
Created by Cool3 (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Everything checks out fine. Nice article Cool3. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 04:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
George M. Stafford
- ... that in 1970, George M. Stafford became the first presidentially-appointed Interstate Commerce Commission chair, 83 years after it was formed?
Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 16:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
2009 Football League Trophy Final
- ... that despite winning the Football League Trophy in 2009, Luton Town were not certain whether they could defend their title?
Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Suggest "are not certain" instead.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I see the fact in the article, in the lede, but there is no citation supporting it. Can something be done about this? I had a look at the articles, and all I see is a bit in the Guardian article saying they'll need special dispensation to defend their title next year. Length and history are fine BTW.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Added reference for hook. 03md 07:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I still don't think it is supported. As far as I can tell, Luton hope to play in the competition next year, but the Football League hasn't said word one, and as it stands, Luton will not play in it. Suggest alternate hook:
ALT1: ...that despite winning the Football League Trophy in 2009, Luton Town are not presently eligible to defend their title?--Wehwalt (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that hook 03md 08:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Shri Hanumuman Mandir, Sarangpur
- ... that the image of Hindu deity Hanuman (pictured) reportedly came alive and moved when installed at the Hanuman temple in Sarangpur?
New article, Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 14:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC) Self nom
M. D. Madhusudhan
- ... that M. D. Madhusudan, who received the Whitley Award for 2009, uncovered links between coffee production in Brazil and cattle ownership and grazing in Bandipur National Park?
5x expanded by Prashanthns (talk). Self nom at 10:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
-Your hook is currently 295 characters. DYK currently only permits hooks up to 200 characters. Please shorten your hook, or provide an alternative one.Smallman12q (talk) 10:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
-Unfortunately, the hook is currently 228 characters, 28 too many. Please shrink it further. Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 21:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Have worked on both the hooks. I think both just about meet the character numbers. Could you check now?Have changed the hook to meet criterion. Hope it is fine now. prashanthns (talk) 06:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)- Length, date, and online source verified. Hook is now ~180 characters (well within the 200 character limit). Good work!.Smallman12q (talk) 10:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I removed a "the" from the hook, to make it read slightly better IMHO. That'd be -4 on the char front, as well. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 10:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sure Jarry. Thanks. :)prashanthns (talk) 11:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I removed a "the" from the hook, to make it read slightly better IMHO. That'd be -4 on the char front, as well. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 10:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Makano (singer)
- ... that Panamanian singer-songwriter Makano began writing songs when he was 16 years old?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 06:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 06:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length, source(which I translated) , and date verified. Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 10:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
List of Chicago Cubs Opening Day starting pitchers
- ... that Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher Mordecai Brown never made an Opening Day start in his ten seasons with the Chicago Cubs?
- ALT1:... that Don Cardwell was the Chicago Cubs' Opening Day starting pitcher against the Houston Colt .45s (now known as the Astros) on April 10, 1962, the first official game in Colt .45 history?
5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 13
Mill Street-North Clover Street Historic District
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Houses_on_North_Clover_Street%2C_Poughkeepsie%2C_NY.jpg/100px-Houses_on_North_Clover_Street%2C_Poughkeepsie%2C_NY.jpg)
- ...that two blocks originally left out of the Mill Street-North Clover Street Historic District (houses on North Clover, pictured) in Poughkeepsie, New York, because they were supposed to be demolished were added to it 15 years later since the urban renewal program had been canceled? Self-nom, expanded starting this date. Daniel Case (talk) 14:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Willamette Falls Hospital
- ... that the same month Willamette Falls Hospital in Oregon City, Oregon, announced a 20 year plan, they announced they intended to merge with Providence Health & Services?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 09:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
KBKR
- ... that Robert Lindahl, the recording engineer on The Kingsmen's famous version of "Louie Louie", lost his job as a disc jockey for KBKR because he refused to empty the Oregon station's chemical toilet?
5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Yoshihiro Yonezawa
- ... that after his death, the amateur manga collection of the manga critic Yoshihiro Yonezawa was made into a library by his alma mater, Meiji University?
Created by Extremepro (talk). Nominated by Malkinann (talk) at 01:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Trafalgar Campaign
- ... that despite the decisive action of the Trafalgar Campaign being the Battle of Trafalgar (pictured), the final action was fought a fortnight later, at the Battle of Cape Ortegal?
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 20:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- The hook appears to be convoluted. Could you please provide an alternative hook or reword the current one? Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 00:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the final action of the Trafalgar Campaign was not the Battle of Trafalgar (pictured), but the Battle of Cape Ortegal a fortnight later? Benea (talk) 04:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length and date verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Alt1 is much clearer than the original hook. Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 10:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
The Maori Merchant of Venice
- ... that The Maori Merchant of Venice was the first Maori language film adaptation of any of William Shakespeare's plays?
Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
1304 characters of prose. Please expand to at least 1500. Shubinator (talk) 20:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Done. Aridd (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date and source verified. ceranthor 23:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
William Rush and His Model
- ... that William Rush and His Model (pictured) is a set of paintings by Thomas Eakins depicting American wood sculptor William Rush?
Created by Wmpearl (talk). Nominated by Raul654 (talk) at 20:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
You haven't actually provided a clear cite for the hook. Either you should cite the article's opening statement, or you should cite all three of the paintings, but it appears you have cited only two of them. Gatoclass (talk) 09:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Candy (unit)
- ... that the candy was a traditional South Asian unit of mass, equal to twenty maunds (roughly 500 lbs., 227 kg)?
Created by Physchim62 (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
The article is currently too short. The actual prose of the article should be at least 1500 characters, it is currently around 1000 (Lists do not count). Also it seems that "227 kg" is only correct for a certain region. decltype (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm so tempted to say "sod you!" I couldn't care less for your petty criteria of length, and as to what constitutes a list. If you wish, you can take another look at the article – by the simple removal of a couple of bullet points it largely meets the length criterion, given that the "list" was already composed of complete grammatical sentences. The article is still being extended and (I hope) improved, as that is what is important to me. 227 kg is the metric equivalent of 500 lbs. – I assume you understand the normal English meaning of the word "roughly". Physchim62 (talk) 12:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- But in Kolachal it was measured at 170 kg, which is not "roughly 227 kg". I think that's the point Decltype was making. Length better now, good work. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 13:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- And at Vadodara it was "measured" at 405 kg! The "roughly 500 pounds" is well attested from numerous sources: the most significant variation is at Mumbai, where it was five hundredweight (560 lbs., 254 kg), at least for the British colonists. I don't suffer nitpickers lightly, especially when they appoint themselves "Guardians of the Main Page" – too many people end up thinking that the process of creating the content is more important than the content itself, that it doesn't matter if it's crap so long as it complies with the Manual of Style. Physchim62 (talk) 13:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
KOWL
Harrah's Lake Tahoe
- ... that California radio station KOWL's original radio studios were located inside the Harrah's Stateline Club, (pictured) a casino in Stateline, Nevada?
Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 07:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
"Big Ed" Wilkes
- ... that Edwin "Big Ed" Wilkes, a Lubbock, Texas, radio talk show host, and a colleague, Bud Andrews, produced the first albums of the country comedian Jerry Clower?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Algerian national reconciliation referendum, 2005
- ... that official turnout in the 2005 Algerian national reconciliation referendum was 99.95% in Khenchela but only just over 11% in Tizi Ouzou Province?
Created by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 07:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Note this was just moved from userspace today. Davewild (talk) 17:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I note the spelling in the ref ("Khenchla") is different, I am assuming this is just an alternative spelling and you are sure it refers to the same place. Gatoclass (talk) 10:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes Khenchla redirects to Khenchela and it is right area (NE of Algeria) for where the source says it is. Davewild (talk) 12:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Zebra shark
- ... that the zebra shark (pictured) is striped when young and spotted when mature?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
5x expansion ok, offline source accepted for hook. Nice article. decltype (talk) 16:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 12
Bigeye trevally
- ... that the specific epithet of the marine fish bigeye trevally (Caranx sexfasciatus) refers to the six dark bands on their sides that fade and disappear as they mature and age?
5x expanded by Kare Kare (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 18:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I re-classed it as 'start' (I wouldn't call it a stub, anyhow) on its talk page. Dates and lengths are fine, but I'd like to nitpick over the referencing of the statement. I'm only looking at Google's transcription of quite possibly a different edition of the book (here, but it doesn't really join the dots. It translates "sexfasciatus" as six-banded and says "juveniles have six dusky crossbars", but in different sections. I know, that's really harsh. DYK people, feel free to disregard. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 18:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
The United Kingdom in World War I
- ... that during World War I, Britons could be fined for feeding the pigeons?
5x expanded by Jim Sweeney (talk), Jarry1250 (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Partly a self-nom. I'm not overly attached to the wording of the hook, but I think as a statement it's reasonably surprising at first glance. A joint effort to reach the 5x expansion. I have a copy of the offline (book) source for the hook. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 18:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Moved here from May 13, the expansion began on May 12. --Bruce1eetalk 05:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Expansion and date verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. I like the hook as it is. --Bruce1eetalk 05:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Charles Carroll the Settler
- ... that Charles Carroll the Settler's attempts to gain office in colonial Maryland led to all Catholics in the colony losing the right to vote?
Created by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd prefer to see more than one reference for an article as long as this, but since we don't have a rule against it... Gatoclass (talk) 10:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Harvey A. Carr, Kerplunk experiment
- ... that John B. Watson and Harvey A. Carr conducted a study called the kerplunk experiment, so named because of the sound the rat made when hitting the end of a maze?
Created by Synergy (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date and online hook refs verified, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 06:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Allocator (C++)
- ... that custom allocators may greatly improve the performance of a computer program written in C++?
5x expanded by Decltype (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Expansion, date and online hook refs verified, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 05:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Eidsvolls plass
- ... that the Oslo square Eidsvolls plass has been referred to as "the National Mall of Norway"?
Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and date verified. Source for hook accepted on good faith. I have never heard the expression "National Mall of Norway", I assume that it is not widely used? decltype (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
John "Bam" Carney
- ... that John "Bam" Carney, a Republican member of the Kentucky House of Representatives, became well-known in his district through his work as a high school basketball coach?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Bob Bruce (Texas journalist)
- ... Bob Bruce of the Abilene Reporter-News in Texas was considered a "superb raconteur" and versatile journalist whose "institutional memory" empowered his newsroom colleagues?
- ALT ... that Texas Governor Rick Perry hailed the Abilene journalist, Bob Bruce for his "clear, insightful voice . . . getting [out] the facts with nary a wasted word"?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Kaiser class battleship
- ... that the Kaiser-class battleships saw combat during World War I only twice, at the Battle of Jutland and during Operation Albion?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 13:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- For easy reference, here's the prose pre-expansion. this or this would make a nice photo to go along with it, if that's decided. Parsecboy (talk) 13:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Article expansion is ok, and good work, too! But I did not find direkt support and cite for the hook. The article mentions only two actions, but that is insufficient. If I've overlooked something, please point out the proper place, or add the cite, or change the hook. I think we could make something catchy from the 2 turbines of Luitpold (..."never received the Diesel engine that was supposed to supplement its two steam turbines"?) --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:47, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I added the full citation for Staff's book, I guess I forgot to do that earlier today (thanks for catching that). Do you mean you need source stating explicitly that the ships only took part in these two instances of combat? I'm not sure that would be possible to find (sort of like trying to prove a negative, you know?)
- Yes, that's what would be needed. See Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK_rules: "should include a definite fact that must be mentioned in the article" and "must be cited in the article with an inline citation". That's why I suggested the alternate hook - I know something like that would be hard to source. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- So I suppose let's scratch the first hook, since it's not easily sourced directly. What do you think about the hook I suggested below? Any problems with it? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 11:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what would be needed. See Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK_rules: "should include a definite fact that must be mentioned in the article" and "must be cited in the article with an inline citation". That's why I suggested the alternate hook - I know something like that would be hard to source. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- If we want to change the hook, maybe something like "... that SMS Prinzregent Luitpold, one of the Kaiser-class battleships, never received the intended diesel engine to supplement her turbines, and was slower than her sisters?" That's not currently specified in the article how much slower the ship was, but that's no problem to add (I can do that right now). Parsecboy (talk) 16:21, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, looking at the figures, the ship was only 1 knot slower than her sisters, but the range was considerably reduced without the diesel engine (7,900 nautical miles at 12 knots compared to only 2,000 nm at 12 kts). That would probably be a better point of contrast. So...
- "... that SMS Prinzregent Luitpold, one of the Kaiser-class battleships, never received the intended diesel engine to supplement her turbines, and so had a considerably shorter range than her sisters?"
- Not sure if that meets the length limit though, but it can probably be streamlined if necessary. Parsecboy (talk) 16:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Pill (textile)
Created by Loggie (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- "Little balls of fuzz" seems extremely informal; perhaps someone can come up with alternative wording? –Juliancolton | Talk 04:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- We could go with "small matted balls of fiber" instead-the OED goes with "small ball of fluff", for what that's worth. Loggie (talk) 10:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Necesito de Tí
- ... that the song "Necesito de Tí" is the first single from the 81st album recorded by Mexican singer Vicente Fernández?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 01:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 01:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
803 characters of prose. Please expand to at least 1500. Shubinator (talk) 04:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I expanded the article, but I do not know how many characters are now included.Jaespinoza (talk) 18:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- The length is good now. The hook is boring though; could you find a better one? Shubinator (talk) 18:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Mexican singer Vicente Fernández selected the Anniversary of the Battle of Puebla, to release his single "Necesito de Tí"? Jaespinoza (talk) 21:21, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Tom Kramer
- ... that despite nearly throwing a perfect game in 1993, American baseball pitcher Tom Kramer never pitched at the highest professional level again after that year?
- ALT1:... that baseball pitcher Tom Kramer was a starting pitcher in Major League Baseball for only one half of one season?
- ALT2:... that baseball pitcher Tom Kramer was a starting pitcher for the Cleveland Indians for just over one half of the 1993 season, nearly throwing a perfect game that same year?
5x expanded by One (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Otto Fuerbringer, Is God Dead?
- ... that Time magazine editor Otto Fuerbringer was responsible for the controversial 1966 "Is God Dead?" cover?
Created by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 00:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Mount Scott (Oregon)
- ... that the summit of Mount Scott is the highest point in Crater Lake National Park?
5x expanded by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Everything checks out. –Juliancolton | Talk 04:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Storage of wine
- ... that while most wines can benefit from being stored on their side, Champagne (pictured) and other sparkling wines tend to age better if they are kept upright?
- Comment: Several refs in the "Orientation of the bottle" section including an online ref (FN#8) related specifically to Champagne
Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date and online hook ref verified, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 14:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
KLBS
- ... that radio station KLBS broadcasts a Portuguese-language world music format to California's San Joaquin Valley?
5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
5xx and hook verified. Good work with only two edits! decltype (talk) 17:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Vickers Type 161
- ... that it has been suggested that the Vickers Type 161 may have been the first aircraft to have had in-flight adjustable elevator trims?
- Comment: Hook is in final para, ref#4
Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by Bigger digger (talk) at 21:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the 1931 Vickers Type 161 may have been the first aircraft to be fitted with in-flight adjustable elevator trims? Gatoclass (talk) 10:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, looks better. I stumbled across this page and the editor who created it is doing some good work that I thought needed airing to the community. Bigger digger (talk) 12:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Catherina Margaretha Linck
- ... that Catherina Margaretha Linck was one of the first lesbians to be executed in the early modern German empire?
5x expanded by Jake Wartenberg (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Nice work on the expansion but date of birth (1717) must be incorrect if she was executed in 1721. – ukexpat (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, I see you just removed the DoB. – ukexpat (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. NW (Talk) (How am I doing?) 00:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I have some problems with this hook. The article says she was both "one of the first lesbians executed in the early modern German Empire" and also "the last in Europe". How can she be both, unless very few lesbians were executed, and if so, why describe her as "one of the first"? Gatoclass (talk) 10:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Price's Post Office
- ... that Price's Post Office (pictured) was a “publick house” in the early 19th century in Spartanburg County, South Carolina?
Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Technical requirements check out, but the hook itself is rather dull. –Juliancolton | Talk 04:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Is "publick" a sic, an archaic spelling, or just a typo? decltype (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- It's the archaic spelling that was used to describe it in 1794, according to the article's sixth reference. Art LaPella (talk) 02:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Ullage (wine)
- ... that wines bottled with longer corks have the potential to see more ullage development than wines with shorter corks because wine is lost through absorption into the cork?
- Comment: Oxford ref (FN #1) from "in the bottle section"
Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Please add references and inline citations, especially for the hook fact. Shubinator (talk) 04:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- OOPS! I accidentally linked to wrong article. It should have been Ullage (wine). Fixed now. AgneCheese/Wine 15:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
The length and date is ok. In my opinion the article is a little short on citations (seems to be based on a single source). But if another reviewer passes it I certainly have no objections. decltype (talk) 17:21, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- So...what part of the DYK criteria is this not 100% in compliance with? The complete entirety of the article is 100% referenced and cited, including the hook. AgneCheese/Wine 03:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Dracula (Kronos album)
- ... that Philip Glass composed a soundtrack in 1998, recorded by the Kronos Quartet, for the 1931 Dracula movie starring Béla Lugosi?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
-Length, date, and online source verified. Have you considered adding related wikiprojects to the talk page?Smallman12q (talk) 19:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Eh...no, since I don't know exactly what that means. Help me out here? Drmies (talk) 01:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think what he's asking is if you've considered adding templates to the talk page for WikiProjects that deal with subjects relating to your article - that is, it places the article in question "within the scope" of that WikiProject so members of that project's collective attentions can potentially get drawn to improving the article even more than its current state. For example, an article like Microsoft Venus would be within the scope of WikiProject Computing. One (talk) 04:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I found Wikiproject Albums, and will browse around for some more. Drmies (talk) 19:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Alibi Club
- ... that former United States President George H.W. Bush is a member of the invitation-only Alibi Club (pictured) in Washington, D.C.?
Created by Acroterion (talk). Self nom at 16:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, and online source verified. Thankyou.Smallman12q (talk) 19:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Juliidae
- ...
that a whole family of minute green sea snails, the Juliidae, have two hinged shells (right valve pictured) like a clam?
Created by Invertzoo (talk), Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Your hook appears to be a bit convoluted (in my opinion), could you please provide an alternative hook. Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 19:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Is this better? Invertzoo (talk) 20:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the shell of marine snails in the family Juliidae (pictured) is composed of two parts, just like a clam?
- Yes, the above DYK and ALT1 had misleading terminology (because the snail have no two shells but the only one shell composed of two valves.). ALT 2 is simplified for everybody. OK? --Snek01 (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length and date verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. I believe that alt2 is the best. Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 00:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- This information in DYK hook is in evidence not only in all offline references but also in all online references and in all images. This hook is the most interesting gastropod sensation from 20th century and the most interesting gastropod hook in wikipedia this year meantime. It should appear the first and with an image. You can give 3 keep. --Snek01 (talk) 11:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hid three checkmarks from Snek above Please do not assess your own articles. Personally, I also believe that the original and ALT1 are slightly misleading; I think that ALT2 would be best. Cheers, —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 03:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- This information in DYK hook is in evidence not only in all offline references but also in all online references and in all images. This hook is the most interesting gastropod sensation from 20th century and the most interesting gastropod hook in wikipedia this year meantime. It should appear the first and with an image. You can give 3 keep. --Snek01 (talk) 11:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Army Black Knights men's lacrosse
- ... that during the 20th century, many football players at the United States Military Academy also played Army lacrosse (modern player pictured) to stay physically fit during the off-season?
Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, and online source verified. I changed lacrosse for army to army lacrosse as per the pdf. Thank you for your contribution.Smallman12q (talk) 19:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The Orckestra
- ... that The Orckestra's debut performance was at the Moving Left Revue, a Communist Party benefit concert in London in 1977?
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 12:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Count Arthur Strong's Radio Show!
- ... that Count Arthur Strong's Radio Show! won the 2009 Sony Radio Academy Gold Award for comedy?
Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 10:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
-Length, date, and online source verified. Thankyou.Smallman12q (talk) 11:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Harpactea sadistica
- ... that in Harpactea sadistica, a newly discovered spider species, the males inseminate females by directly injecting their sperm into the female's abdomen, through traumatic insemination?
Created by Sarefo (talk). Self nom at 10:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
-The article is currently classified as a stub.Smallman12q (talk) 11:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- i often add the stub template when starting a new article, and forgot to remove it when i expanded the H. sadistica section. --Sarefo (talk) 11:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
-Unfortunately your article currently has 1382 bytes of "readable prose size" where as according to Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Selection_criteria your article should have at least 1500 bytes of readable prose. Please expand the article a bit more. Thank you.Smallman12q (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- ok, added some information. --Sarefo (talk) 22:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, and online source verified. A very interesting (and seemingly grotesque fact!) Thank you. I did shrink the hook a bit so that it is within 200 characters, but the message should still be conveyed. (On a side note, you probably already know this, but in general, other wikis such as this one, generally are generally not accepted as reliable sources. Instead, consider taking the references from that wiki, and putting them here.)Smallman12q (talk) 00:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Concern-I hope I'm not coming across as picky or rude, but it seems that the section Harpactea#Traumatic insemination seems out of place. The article focuses on the genus where as the section Harpactea#Traumatic insemination focuses on the individual spider. I'm not sure if each spider is notable enough to warrent its own article, so this may be okay, but am hoping that someone with more experience with DYK can confirm this is okay. Thanks.Smallman12q (talk) 00:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- you've got a point here. i created an extra article about the species and relinked the above hook. I'll try to expand it a bit more in the next hour, but sources are hard to find. --Sarefo (talk) 09:47, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
-This article has 1237 bytes of prose (not the required 1500). As for sources...try using specific google searches such as only .edu.(have a look at google news) See Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL.Smallman12q (talk) 01:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Joseph Wicks
- ... that Joseph Wicks, a lawyer and judge in Washington State and the first city attorney of Grand Coulee, was an enrolled member of the Cherokee Nation?
Created by Jmabel | Talk. Self nom at 04:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Byzantinism
- ... that while most scholars of the Enlightenment criticized the Byzantine system of the Eastern Roman Empire, it was praised, for the very same reasons, by Russian Empire's scholar, Konstantin Leontiev?
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Suggested rewording, just for better English: "... that while most Enlightenment scholars criticized the Byzantine system of the Eastern Roman Empire, Konstantin Leontiev, a scholar from the Russian Empire praised it for the very same reasons?" or "... that the very features of the Eastern Roman Empire that were criticized as Byzantinism by most Enlightenment scholars drew praise from Konstantin Leontiev, a scholar from the Russian Empire?" - Jmabel | Talk 05:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 11
Caranx sansun
- ... that the marine fish Caranx sansun, first described in 1775, has no common name, has no known holotype, and is labeled a nomen dubium as the correct identification is unlikely to be made?
Created by Kare Kare (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 18:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Asbjørn Kjønstad
- ... that Asbjørn Kjønstad has been referred to as the "father of the smoking ban" in Norway?
Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
SS American (1900)
- ... that in 1901 the SS American, one of the first ships to enter service for the American-Hawaiian Steamship Company, set a record for the fastest New York – San Francisco ocean passage with her time of 59 days?
5x expanded by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 04:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
for original hook (offline ref) Don't want to check off ALT1 as I wrote it
- ALT1 *... that with a voyage of 59 days, the SS American set a 1901 record for the fastest New York – San Francisco ocean passage? —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 04:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- Original, ALT edited to say "ocean passage" (since it was considerably faster than 59 days by, say, rail at that time.) — Bellhalla (talk) 14:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Second Baptist Church (Poughkeepsie, New York)
Two possibilities (I like the first one more but it's wordier)
- ... that the Second Baptist Church (pictured) in Poughkeepsie, New York, was at one time called the "Vassar Temple" due to its colonnade, the Vassar family's ownership of the land and its use as a synagogue?
- ... that the Second Baptist Church (pictured) is the only Greek Revival church remaining in Poughkeepsie, New York? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 20:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. I personally prefer the second hook, for what it's worth. –Juliancolton | Talk 20:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I must disagree slightly. Can we have more context for the second hook? From that hook, one could wonder why being the only one left is notable at all. Maybe this (if a number can be provided)?
- ALT1... that out of an original _#_ Greek Revival churches in Poughkeepsie, New York, only the Second Baptist Church (pictured) remains? —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 04:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- The Greek Revival style was prominent in the U.S. in the 1820s-1840s. In some cities there are a lot of buildings in that style, there are many houses left in the countryside in that style. For a city like Poughkeepsie to have only one left is a little surprising, to me. Daniel Case (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Hurricane Tara (1961)
- ... that 1961's Hurricane Tara was one of the deadliest Pacific hurricanes on record?
Created/expanded by Hurricanehink (talk). Nominated by Juliancolton (talk) at 02:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Michel Laframboise
- ... that former fur trader Michel Laframboise helped found Fort Astoria (pictured) and later operated a ferry across the Willamette River?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Looks good. –Juliancolton | Talk 18:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
U.S. Department of Agriculture South Building
- ... that the U.S. Department of Agriculture South Building (pictured) was the largest office building in the world until the construction of the Pentagon?
Created by Acroterion (talk). Self nom at 00:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date, and source verified. Thankyou. Smallman12q (talk) 10:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Sol Rosenberg (Louisiana businessman)
- ... that Sol Rosenberg, a survivor of the Dachau concentration camp, established an international steel company in his adopted city of Monroe, Louisiana?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and date are fine. Offline source accepted in good faith.Smallman12q (talk) 10:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Lo Walker
- ... that Lo Walker, the mayor of Bossier City, Louisiana, won his first term with 91 percent of the vote and, at the age of seventy-five was unopposed for reelection in 2009?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The article only has an estimated year of birth and does not even mention his age at his 2009 re-election (much less cite it). — Bellhalla (talk) 14:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Rex D. Russell
- ... that the Baptist physician Rex D. Russell of Fort Smith, Arkansas, penned the 1996 book What the Bible Says About Healthy Living?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Oliver C. Thomas
- ... that Oliver C. Thomas, a decorated World War II POW from Lubbock, later headed the political lobbying group, the
Texas Good Roads/Transportation Association? Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Anomalon
- ... that after a search lasting over 20 years, Piyare Jain claimed to have finally detected the elusive anomalon, an anomalous state of nuclear matter?
5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Marc Sautet, Café Philosophique
- ... that Marc Sautet (pictured) started the philosophy cafes known as Café Philosophique?
Created/expanded by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hook reference on the articles as: Chaplin, p. 282 Philosopher Marc Sautet started the first "cafe-philo" at the Cafe des Phares on the Place de la Bastille in Paris.
Håkon Stenstadvold
- ... that Håkon Stenstadvold, rector of the Norwegian National Academy of Craft and Art Industry, was also a member of Bærum municipal council?
Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Smith Tobacco Barn
- ... that the Smith Tobacco Barn (pictured) is a very good example of flue-cured tobacco barns in Dillon County, South Carolina, built between 1895 and the 1950s?
Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Length, date verified, but my only concern is the use of "very good example" in the hook. I am not sure how this can be qualified, and as the sourced Historic American Buildings Survey [1] lists it as being in "fair" condition, I would probably question the validity of the nomination form's [2] assertion that it is "an excellent example...". I apologize for my novice understanding of these forms, but the author of that statement is not listed on the page, and its validity seems questionable since it appears the intent of the document was to obtain accreditation by the National Register of Historic Place. I apologize for being tedious, and recognize that I might be nit-picking. I would submit the following ALT, but would be willing to publish "as is" if other editors feel I am going too far. Mrathel (talk) 07:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Smith Tobacco Barn (pictured) is one of the few remaining examples of intact flue-cured tobacco barns in Dillon County, South Carolina, built between 1895 and the 1950s? Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at it. ALT1 is fine. I have added "intact" to the ALT1 because Reference 1 (Rogers, NRHP MPS) indicated that 191 barns were identified in Dillon and Marion counties in a 1982-1983 survey. Three barns were nominated. Reference 4 (NRHP inventory) indicated that this is the "most intact" barn. I downgraded "excellent" from reference 3 to "very good" to soften the comment and not draw arguments what excellent means. I did not include Marion county to keep the hook under 150 characters. These tobacco barns are not Mount Vernon or Buckingham Palace. There were working facilities that may have never been painted. A good example preserves the technology of the day much like Price's Mill shows a watermill, or Cotton Press (Latta, South Carolina) and Cotton Press (Tarboro, North Carolina) show an early apparatus used in agriculture prior to the industrial age. It does not surprise me that it is in "fair" condition or deemed an "extremely fragile resources." I am not looking for controversy. I am trying to write non-stub articles of South Carolina NRHPs. I look for a picture to illustrate the article. The Smith Tobacco Barn has a very nice (my opinion) picture by Jack Boucher. The DYK is a target and not a goal. The decisions to approve and to select it for a DYK are editorial. Thanks KudzuVine (talk) 17:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Bamboo coral
- ... that bamboo coral specimens (pictured) have been found that are 4,000 years old?
Created by Mattisse (talk). Self nom at 19:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date and source verified. ceranthor 21:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Re-verified, I resolved the article's taxobox issue. ceranthor 21:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Bud Houghton
- ... that footballer Bud Houghton, scorer of 79 goals in the Football League, was born in Madras to an Anglo-Indian family who migrated to England in 1947 when India gained independence from British rule?
Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 11:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, Date, source verified Mrathel (talk) 16:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Missouri Kansas Texas Railway Company of Texas v. Clay May
- ... that a railway company appealed a US$25 penalty all the way to the US Supreme Court, in Missouri Kansas Texas Railway Company of Texas v. Clay May?
Created by Tempshill (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I considered that it would be a little more entertaining to say "...to the US Supreme Court, and lost, in Missouri...", because, you know, they ended their legal odyssey by losing 25 bucks; but am a little loath to add any more words due to the length of the title of the case. Tempshill (talk) 06:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- WP:IAR and add those two words. ;) That would be an awesome hook. I'm offering an alternate hook below; please check it for factual accuracy.
- ALT1 ... the Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad lost an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court over a $25 penalty they assessed on a farmer? —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Jablonkow Incident
- ... that the Jablonkow Incident has been named the first commando operation of the Second World War? self nom by Tymek (talk) 04:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date and source verified. ceranthor 21:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Grace After Midnight
- ... that The Wire actress Felicia "Snoop" Pearson wrote an autobiography, Grace After Midnight, chronicling her drug-dealing days in Baltimore, imprisonment on murder charges, rehabilitation and casting in the HBO series?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Added a hyphen for the compound adjective drug-dealing — Bellhalla (talk) 04:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Danny Friend
- ... that Danny Friend was the Chicago Colts' Opening Day starting pitcher in 1896 despite only having pitched five previous Major League Baseball games?
Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and date verified; accepting hook in good faith. ceranthor 21:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 10
Jiří Šlitr
- ... that the Czech singer and pianist Jiří Šlitr died from coal gas poisoning?
Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Minimum orbit intersection distance
- ... that minimum orbit intersection distance is one of the measures used to determine if a near-Earth object, such as (4953) 1990 MU (orbit pictured), is a Potentially Hazardous Object? New article, self-nom. Note that (4953) 1990 MU is also new but I have not bolded it because it does not meet the length requirement. SpinningSpark 00:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Added alternate version of the image with thickened lines which thumbnails better for DYK purposes. SpinningSpark 18:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Ayapango
- ... that older homes in Ayapango, Mexico, retain the pre-Hispanic custom of having names, which are on plaques by their doors?
Created/expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
USCGC Sea Cloud (WPG-284)
- ... that, ironically, the Sea Cloud (pictured) served as both the first fully racially integrated United States warship in World War II and as a private yacht to racist Dominican Republic dictator Rafael Trujillo?
Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- How about even though instead of ironically? Apart from being an OR-ish editorial comment, I find it more coincidental rather than ironic, anyway. — Bellhalla (talk) 04:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- You're right, thanks for the suggestion! Cheers! Scapler (talk) 11:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that even though the Sea Cloud (pictured) served as the first fully racially integrated United States warship in World War II, it later served as a private yacht to racist Dominican Republic dictator Rafael Trujillo?
Weddings and Babies
- ... that the 1960 indie film Weddings and Babies was the first 35 mm fiction feature to be made with a portable camera that allowed synchronized sound?
Created by Stetsonharry (talk). Self nom at 14:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Chianti
- ... that future Italian Prime Minister Bettino Ricasoli (pictured) developed the first "modern" Chianti recipe that was Sangiovese based?
- Comment: Several ref. Primary is Johnson Vintage ref in History section (FN #6) but also supported by Oxford ref in lead (FN#1) and Domine Wine ref in History section (FN #5)
5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 07:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Shamar Sands
- ... that Shamar Sands, the Bahamian 110 metre hurdles national record holder, also has a degree in accountancy?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 23:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Size, date, and hook ref all check out. Law type! snype? 05:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Thomas E. Locke
- ... that the Korean War compelled Thomas E. Locke, later a prominent Texas banker, to abandon plans to play for the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Wouldn't the "former Brooklyn Dodgers" just be the "Los Angeles Dodgers"? Or is it meant that he abandoned plans to play for the team while it was still in Brooklyn (in which case the former is superfluous)? — Bellhalla (talk) 04:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Discouraged workers
- ... that discouraged workers are considered to be "marginally attached to the labor force" and are thus not counted in most official unemployment rates, which could result in flawed statistics?
- ALT1:... that there are over 740,000 discouraged workers in the United States as of April 2009?
- ALT2:... that the United States Department of Labor first began tracking discouraged workers in 1967 and found 500,000 at the time?
5x expanded by Smallman12q (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- 2183/678 = 3.2x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 19:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Working My apologies, I'll expand further.Smallman12q (talk) 19:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Done-I expanded it 5x. It should qualify now.Smallman12q (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Expansion, history, references good for the original and ALT2.
ALT1 is sourced by a blog.Shubinator (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I believe you made a mistake: Alt 1 is not cited by a blog. Citation Discouraged_workers#cite_note-bls2-13 is for Employment Situation Summary by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Division of Labor Force Statistics.Smallman12q (talk) 19:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- My bad, I was looking at ref 13. ALT1 is fine as well. Shubinator (talk) 20:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Huguenot rebellions
- ... that the Huguenot rebellions (symbol depicted) in France in the 1620s led to an implacable and successful repression by Louis XIII despite strong English support?
Created by PHG (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- ..is not the symbol quite simply the pendant of the Order of the Holy Spirit? What's the Huguenot connection?--Wetman (talk) 06:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- ..the symbol is indeed close to the Order of the Holy Spirit, but different and specific to the Huguenots: see Huguenot cross. Phg (talk) 18:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Hector Hyppolite
- ... that Hector Hyppolite was a Haitian Vodou priest who was classified as a surrealist painter by the surrealist theorist André Breton? Expansion,[3] self-nom. DurovaCharge! 19:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Size and date fine. AGF on book source. Voodoo art. Neat. Law type! snype? 05:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Strawberry Chapel and Childsbury Town Site, Biggin Church Ruins
- ... that Strawberry Chapel (pictured) in South Carolina, was a chapel of ease for Biggin Church, the main church of the colonial Parish of St. John’s, Berkeley?
- ALT1:Hook: Reference 4 (inventory), p. 3, 5th paragraph
Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Olga Taratuta
Olga Taratuta
- ... that Olga Taratuta (pictured) escaped from a Russian prison in 1906 while serving a 17-year sentence?
Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Size, date, and image fine. AGF on book source. Law type! snype? 05:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Olga Taratuta (pictured), a Ukrainian anarcho-communist, escaped from a Russian prison in 1906 while serving a 17-year sentence? Law type! snype? 05:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- The alt hook is fine. — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] (talk · contribs) 02:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Set the Mood
- ... that in a review of David Jordan's debut album, Set the Mood, it was suggested that the singer could have been cloned from the DNA of Lenny Kravitz, Prince and Michael Jackson?
5x expanded by Pyrrhus16 (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Expansion, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
2008 Benin floods
- ... that according to the former mayor of the commune of Adjohoun, Gerard Adounsiba, the 2008 Benin floods were "the largest humanitarian crisis to affect the region to date"?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The source says "largest humanitarian crisis to date". Maybe reword the hook to: the "largest humanitarian crisis to date" in the region. Shubinator (talk) 15:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Gateshead Council election, 2003
- ... that all postal voting was used in the 2003 Gateshead Council election and saw the third highest turnout in the 2003 United Kingdom local elections?
Created by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 14:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, references good (verified with LexisNexis). Here's an alt (rewording):
- ALT1: ... that all-postal voting was used in the 2003 Gateshead Council election, contributing to the third highest turnout in the 2003 United Kingdom local elections? Shubinator (talk) 15:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Allison Bradshaw, Valerie Ziegenfuss, Original 9
- ... that Allison Bradshaw's mother, tennis player Valerie Ziegenfuss, was one of the Original 9 who established the basis for the WTA Tour?
Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Allison Bradshaw has 1208 characters of prose, and Valerie Ziegenfuss has 979. Please expand to at least 1500. Shubinator (talk) 15:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think they should all be fine now. User:Totalinarian also needs to be credited for his expansion of Original 9 if it makes the main page. 03md 20:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Everything checks out. I added "tennis player" to the hook for context, and added credit for Totalinarian. Shubinator (talk) 22:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Moni Gonia Monastery
- ... that the remains of a cannon ball can still be seen in the wall of Moni Gonia Monastery from an Ottoman attack during the Cretan Revolt of 1866–1869?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. "Inflicted" sounds a bit odd; maybe "attacked"? Shubinator (talk) 15:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
DoneReworded. I've also made a flickr request, hopefully we can get hold of an image.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 15:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Frank Bladin
- ... that Air Vice Marshal Frank Bladin (pictured) was nicknamed "Dad" for the concern he showed for the welfare of his personnel?
Created/expanded by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 12:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history good; book source accepted in good faith. Shubinator (talk) 15:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Tom Bunn
- ... that Tom Bunn served in the Oregon Legislative Assembly at the same time as his older brothers Stan and Jim?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 11:36, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good (verified with LexisNexis). Shubinator (talk) 15:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Welles declaration, Executive Order 8389
- ... that the Welles declaration (pictured) in conjunction with Executive Order 8389 offered both immediate and long-term benefits to the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) during their forced incorporation by the Soviet Union?
- Comment: both articles moved from sandbox on 05-10
Created by M.K (talk). Self nom at 10:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The hook is vague. What kind of benefits? Also, I didn't know which country the declaration and order came from; I assumed it was the Soviet Union. Shubinator (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Alt1... that the US State Department's Welles declaration (pictured) in conjunction with US Presidential Executive Order 8389 offered both immediate and long-term benefits to the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) during their forced incorporation by the Soviet Union? Feel free to read the articles and offer different hook. M.K. (talk) 09:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
This version is a 271 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 04:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Then perhaps we can remove (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) from hook, to save some space. Other alternatives are welcome too. M.K. (talk) 10:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC) P.S. It is always possible to cut one hook into two separate ones like:
- ... that The New York Times described the Welles declaration (pictured) as one of the most exceptional diplomatic documents issued by the U.S. State Department in many years?
- ... that amended U.S. Presidential Executive Order 8389 ordered a freeze of the Baltic states' assets in the U.S.?
Selleck, Washington
- ... that after Pacific States Lumber went bankrupt in 1939, the company town of Selleck, Washington (pictured), was sold for US$3,000? New article, self-nom. - Jmabel | Talk 08:29, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Everything checks out - thanks for an interesting read :) Cheers, Paxse (talk) 11:39, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Added image. Can't use the one in the article because it's a very wide panorama. - Jmabel | Talk 19:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Raquel Forner
- ... that Raquel Forner was Argentina's first expressionist artist? New article, self-nom. DurovaCharge! 05:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- I would have thought of Xul Solar as an expressionist. - Jmabel | Talk 08:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Neither of the sources say that she was the first expressionist. How about a different hook? Paxse (talk) 12:03, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Raquel Forner was one of the earliest fine artists to portray scenes of outer space? DurovaCharge! 16:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
ALT1 verified, length, date and hook ref. --Bruce1eetalk 14:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
1999 Tashkent bombings
- ... that 16 people were killed in the 1999 Tashkent bombings when six car bombs were detonated, an attack most likely perpetrated by the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan?
Created by Bsimmons666 (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- The article says that critics have cast doubt on this assessment [the assessment that IMU did the attacks]. Maybe reword the hook.
- ALT1: ... that 16 people were killed in the 1999 Tashkent bombings when six car bombs were detonated, an attack the government says was perpetrated by the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan? Shubinator (talk) 04:52, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Erm, (at the risk of sounding like an idiot...) which government? Perhaps that should be included in the DYK? The Duke of Did you know 12:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that 16 people were killed in the 1999 Tashkent bombings when six car bombs were detonated, an attack the Uzbek government says was perpetrated by the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan? Bsimmons666 (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) for ALT2. Shubinator (talk) 15:19, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Justin Brown
- ... that gridiron football defensive end Justin Brown was named to six All-American teams when playing at East Central University?
Created by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- What article or articles are you nominating? They need to be bolded. Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 02:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, figured it out, I have bolded the "Justin Brown" article for you. Gatoclass (talk) 02:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about that forgot all about it.--Giants27 T/C 02:29, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. I'd like to see the sections fleshed out a bit though. Shubinator (talk) 04:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Any chance of indicating when he accomplished this? — Bellhalla (talk) 04:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about that forgot all about it.--Giants27 T/C 02:29, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Charles Guth
- ... that Charles Guth offered to sell Pepsi Co. to Coca-Cola, but they did not even make a bid?
5x expanded by Acebulf (talk). Self nom at 01:46, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Note: I improved the article on a period of 27 hours. The last edit before the expansion had 736 characters [4], and the current version has 3752 characters [5]. Which is about 5.1 times what it had before the expansion. Acebulf (talk) 01:46, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 04:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
ALT1:
- ... that Coca Cola did not even make a bid on Charles Guth's offer to sell them PepsiCo before rejecting it?
Chris Jackson (gridiron football)
- ... that gridiron football wide receiver Chris Jackson didn't play football until attending Orange Coast College?
5x expanded by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Again, please remember to bold the nominated articles. I have done it for you this time. Gatoclass (talk) 02:19, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about that forgot all about it.--Giants27 T/C 02:29, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- 1908/823 = 2.3x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 02:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Expanded.--Giants27 T/C 14:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Expansion, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 14:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- As with the Justin Brown nom, any chance of a timeframe for Jackson's career? — Bellhalla (talk) 05:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Radu Berceanu
- ... that shortly before the 1989 Revolution, current Romanian Transport Minister Radu Berceanu was questioned at length by the Securitate for allegedly intending to flee the country using a hang glider he had built?
Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Romanian-language source verified If I may nitpick: the source quotes Berceanu saying that this interrogation happened. The likelihood that he is being inaccurate is probably minimal, but if, in the light of this, a vaguer phrasing is needed, I suggest moving the "allegedly" within the phrase - "... that shortly before the 1989 Revolution, current Romanian Transport Minister Radu Berceanu was allegedly questioned at length by the Securitate for intending to flee the country using a hang glider he had built?" Dahn (talk) 20:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on May 9
Goes Cube
- ... that the rock band Goes Cube obtained their name from a poor back-translation of the phrase "Go Die" between English and German?
Created by Morningpulse (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Spark testing
- ... that spark testing is a quick and inexpensive way to determine the general classification of ferrous materials using only a grinding wheel?
5x expanded by Wizard191 (talk). Self nom at 13:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- 2834/651 = 4.35x prose expansion. Shubinator (talk) 18:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Really?! I thought I surely had 5x nailed. I'll have to see if I can find anything else to add. Wizard191 (talk) 20:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I rechecked the article for current prose length using DYKcheck which gave 2770 bytes, however it didn't include any of the text in the Sparks characteristics section. So I copy and pasted it into word and did a word count on it (taking out the sub-titles and ref numbers) and came to 3926 with spaces and 3723 without spaces (total article word counts). As such, I think it qualifies. Wizard191 (talk) 23:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't. DYKcheck didn't include the "Sparks characteristics" section because we define prose to exclude many things including "lists", and you haven't argued why this nomination should be an exception to our usual list rule. Art LaPella (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't see how it counts as a list and not prose. If I reformatted the section so each sub-section is listed using ===sub-section=== instead of using the ";" operator it would suddenly qualify as prose per DYKcheck. Each sub-section is written in sentence form and not as fragments. What am I missing? Wizard191 (talk) 16:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Content with the ";" operator is a definitions list (per Wikipedia:Wikitext#Organizing_your_writing), and DYKcheck counts it as such. The "Sparks characteristics" section does not read like prose; if you did use subsections, we would likely ask you to put the content in a list or table. Shubinator (talk) 17:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I see. I was unaware that the ";" operator was only supposed to be used for lists. Wizard191 (talk) 17:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- But you probably agree non-technically that it looks like a list. The list rule has often been criticized as evadable, but there has been a consensus for years. Wikipedia talk:Did you know is a better place to debate the rules. Art LaPella (talk) 02:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a word missing out of this hook? Should it be "is a quick and inexpensive method . . ." SpinningSpark 00:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Good catch! I've fixed it. Wizard191 (talk) 02:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Want One
- ... that Rufus Wainwright's album Want One features guest vocals from musicians Martha Wainwright, Joan Wasser, Teddy Thompson, and Linda Thompson?
5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Note: I am not exactly sure how large this expansion is, but I took much of the information list on the previous version and put it into paragraph form. I also expanded the article, and am continuing to do so. Just didn't want to miss out on the opportunity to create a 'DYK' fact for the article. Thanks! --Another Believer (Talk) 00:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Naniwa Maru
- ... that the first sea trials of a replica ship in Japan were those of the Naniwa Maru before it was placed in the Osaka Maritime Museum?
Created by Bigger digger (talk). Self nom at 18:50, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I originally put this at the bottom of the May 9th section, sometimes my eyes aren't so good! Bigger digger (talk) 21:47, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Vassar Institute, Vassar Home for Aged Men
- ... that the Vassar Institute and Vassar Home for Aged Men buildings (pictured) in Poughkeepsie, New York, are now used by a local arts center? Self-nom. Either pic can be used. Daniel Case (talk) 13:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Plane of ecliptic
- ... that the plane of the ecliptic (effect pictured) is the imaginary plane which all the planets in our Solar System share as they orbit the Sun?
Created/expanded by Dendodge (talk), Synergy (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Spratt's
- ... that Spratt's supplied army dogs with 1,256,976,708 dog biscuits during World War I?
Created by Kathyrncelestewright (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Size and date fine. AGF on book source. Law type! snype? 07:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
John Hollins (artist), Robert Hollond, Thomas Monck Mason
- ... that the painting (pictured) of Robert Hollond, Monck Mason and Charles Green planning their record-making balloon trip also includes the artist, John Hollins?
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Lengths, histories, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 16:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC) That was quick, Shub, thx ... Ive highlighted Monck Mason as its now of sufficient weight. OK? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Victuallers (talk • contribs) 17:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, Mason checks out. Shubinator (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Stan Bunn
- ... that Oregon politician Stan Bunn was investigated for ethics violations by the same commission he once chaired?
- Comment: Though this is a living person and the hook is slightly negative, it is not unduly negative (per the criteria) as the ethics violations are a well known and well documented aspect of his life.
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 07:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Edouard Duval-Carrié
- ... that Haitian expatriate artist Edouard Duval-Carrié criticized the regime of Jean-Claude Duvalier by creating artwork that parodied Duvalier? Self-nom, expansion[6] by DurovaCharge! 04:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Expansion, history, reference good. The source suggests that the art was more a parody of Duvalier himself, rather than the regime. Shubinator (talk) 04:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Added a second example of Duval-Carrié's artistic criticism, more specifically illustrative of the hook. DurovaCharge! 05:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Shitou Xiqian
- ... that Shitou Xiqian was an obscure Zen teacher during his life but is now considered one of the two ancestors of all existing branches of Zen?
Created by Nat Krause (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Ref 1 says it's on page 192, but the book only has 192 pages. Shubinator (talk) 01:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Barney Cannon
- ... that the Shreveport deejay Barney Cannon was particularly knowledgeable about the history of country music, his radio station KWKH-AM, and the former Louisiana Hayride?
Created/expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Ref 3 doesn't have the quote about the Louisiana Hayride that's in the article. Ref 1 says Cannon was also known for his tough country music trivia questions, which is different from being considered as an authority on the subject. Maybe change the hook to "knew a lot about". Shubinator (talk) 04:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Ref. 3 corrected, and the article has been rearranged.Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- The sentence Cannon spent years studying the history of KWKH and its relationship to the Louisiana Hayride, staged at the downtown Shreveport Municipal Memorial Auditorium is in the article cited to ref 4, but I can't see it in the reference. Shubinator (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I altered the sentence to refer to KWKH, the Hayride, and the Auditorium only.Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Damon E. Allen
- ... that Damon E. Allen led the successful campaign by the Kentucky Optometric Association to empower optometrists in the state to prescribe medication for patients?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The references from Ancestry.com, Revolutionhealth.com, and Classmates.com don't seem reliable (refs 1, 3, and 4). Shubinator (talk) 01:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The reference from Ancestry.com is the Social Security Death Index, which is rarely incorrect. I omitted the Classmates reference and changed the Revolutionhealth.com to something else.Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ref 3 still isn't great. It could be replaced with this from the government. Also, the sentence on Illinois College of Optometry is sourced by ICO themselves, and should be sourced to a third party for claims like oldest continuing operating institution dedicated solely to the training of optometrists. Shubinator (talk) 03:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Corrections made.Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 20:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Adam and Joe (radio show)
- ... that Adam and Joe on BBC 6 Music won the Broadcasting Press Guild award for Radio Programme of the Year in its first six months of broadcast?
Created by Clavecin (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Toniná
- ... that Toniná in Mexico was one of the last of the Classic Period Maya cities to fall into ruin?
5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- 6805/1709 = 4.0x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I make original prose text 1724 characters, and expanded prose text 8742, more than 5x expanded. Simon Burchell (talk) 18:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- No, sorry. As of right now, it's approx. x4.3. It needs exactly 1,070 bytes for it to pass. Synergy 19:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- No prob, I'll just keep plowing on... ;) Simon Burchell (talk) 19:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Should be OK now (I hope). Simon Burchell (talk) 20:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- The expansion is good. However, I can't see the hook in the article. One sentence, the last known Long Count date on any Maya monument, gets close. Shubinator (talk) 21:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the hook, which refers to the last line of the Later rulers section. Simon Burchell (talk) 21:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Thanks, good to go now. Book sources accepted in good faith. Shubinator (talk) 21:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Joyce Gilchrist
- ... that Joyce Gilchrist, a forensic chemist who was dismissed for flawed casework analysis, contributed to evidence for 23 trials that resulted in death sentences?
5x expanded by Jake Wartenberg (talk), NuclearWarfare (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Verfied, thanks. — RyanCross (talk) 22:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Mirrorwing flyingfish
- ... that the Mirrorwing flyingfish attaches masses of its eggs to floating debris by a series of filaments on each egg?
Created by Ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 16:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 01:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
British Comedy Guide
- ... that since 2006, the British Sitcom/Comedy Guide has been presenting awards for both the best and worst British comedy shows?
Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 00:42, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Belgium–Ukraine relations
- ... that Belgian firm Interbrew has a 34.4% share in the Ukrainian beer market?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Currently at AfD. Let us know when it's closed. Shubinator (talk) 14:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Article approved, please wait till AfD is over before putting this on the main page (It will take at least 7 days to get on the main page anyway, correct?) - NW (Talk) (How am I doing?) 17:24, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it should be closed in a few days anyway. I think it will be kept.Dr. Blofeld (talk) 09:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- AFD was closed as keep. Nice article, Meestah Blofeld. —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:10, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Conductivity (electrolytic)
- ... that conductivity measurements are used extensively in many industrial and environmental applications as they provide a cheap and reliable way of measuring the ionic content in a solution?
Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I can't find the hook in the reference. Can you add page numbers? Shubinator (talk) 00:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- The hook is the chapter given in reference 1 in the article. You yourself made this into a Google books reference to the book itself, not the chapter. I'm not happy about the way references 1 and 7 were changed as these books are compendia covering many different topics, so the link to the title page is not that helpful. Petergans (talk) 20:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- In my edit I didn't remove any information, I simply added the links to Google Books for verifiability. I agree it's tough to find the information in the books, hence the request for page numbers. The chapter says Conductivity measurement has widespread use in industrial applications, but I can't find information on its cost or reliability. Shubinator (talk) 20:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Reliability: The fact that is in such widespread use indicates that it is reliable. Manufacturers don't often give prices on their web-sites, but I found http://www.qclscientific.co.uk/benchtop-meters-20-c.asp. Please, no more quibbles. Petergans (talk) 08:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Scott Trial
- ... that in the 2008 motorcycle Scott Trial event there were only 60 official finishers out of a starting entry of 200?
Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 00:39, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Nathaniel Dance
- ... that at the Battle of Pulo Aura, a fleet of East Indiamen under Commodore Nathaniel Dance (pictured) fought off an entire French squadron?
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history good; AGF on book sources. Shubinator (talk) 00:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 8
BoardEx
- ... that the subscription service BoardEx provides information on the world's business directors and senior managers, including their salary, bonuses, and incentive pay?
- Comment: The article's at AfD now, but I thought I'd get my foot in the door. I'll drop a note when it's closed.
Created by CDT007 (talk), Maverx (talk), Shubinator (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Aquaculture of salmon
- ... that farmed salmon can escape from their sea cage (pictured) and breed with wild salmon?
Created by Geronimo20 (talk). Self nom at 09:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in the aquaculture of salmon, farmed salmon can escape from their sea cage (pictured) and interbreed with wild salmon?
Offline ref accepted in good-faith. (I prefer the alternative hook, for what it's worth.) –Juliancolton | Talk 04:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Luděk Hulan
- ... that Czech jazz double-bassist Luděk Hulan co-founded Studio 5, one of the most important modern jazz ensembles in Czechoslovakia?
Created by Vejvančický (talk), Haploidavey (talk). Self nom at 06:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
date and length check out fine, AGF on the Czech references. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 14:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Union Street Historic District (Poughkeepsie, New York)
- ... that, in 1767, Union Street (houses, pictured) became the first street that connected Poughkeepsie, New York, to the Hudson River? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 14:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Everything checks out fine. Another nice article. cheers, Paxse (talk) 15:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Harold Reeves
- ... that the Texas clergyman Harold Reeves became in 1952 the first missionary dispatched to Thailand by the Southern Baptist Convention?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I get an error trying to view ref 2, which is used to source the hook. Shubinator (talk) 00:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
For some reason "cite web" won't work for reference 2, but the reference can be called to the screen through Google. I had to remove the web reference, but the obit is there if you look under Google: Harold Reeves + Lubbock Avalanche-Journal.Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) I fixed the ref. Length, history, reference good. Shubinator (talk) 04:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Dan Itse
- ... that New Hampshire State Representative Dan Itse, a Republican, has emerged as a national advocate of state sovereignty in an era of otherwise expanded government?
- ALT ... that New Hampshire State Representative Dan Itse, a Republican, is a chemical engineer who holds four patents on low-emission pollution controls?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The first hook is referenced to a blog and the second is referenced to the homepage of constitutionparty.org. Shubinator (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I changed the first hook reference to Glenn Beck Show. I could find no other source for the second hook.Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Stronger references need to be added. So far there's Youtube references (1 and 6), the homepage of ConstitutionParty.org which says nothing about Itse (2), a dead link (3), and two conservative blogs (4 and 5). These are at best questionable. Shubinator (talk) 19:44, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
I have nothing else on Mr. Itse.Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Too many unreliable sources. Have you tried local newspapers that may have carried stories on this guy? —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- A Google News search turns up 30 sources. I'm sure a few could be used. Shubinator (talk) 18:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Jiří Jelínek (trumpeter)
- ... that the Czech trumpeter and singer Jiří Jelínek was nicknamed The Czech Satchmo?
Created/expanded by Vejvančický (talk), Haploidavey (talk). Self nom at 08:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history good; Dutch references accepted in good faith. Shubinator (talk) 23:56, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Riddle Ranch
- ... that the Mortar Riddle archeological site is located on the historic Riddle Ranch (pictured) in eastern Oregon?
Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. Here's a more interesting alt:
- ALT1: ... that the site of Riddle Ranch in eastern Oregon was a Native American settlement for over 1,000 years? Shubinator (talk) 23:37, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Spinner shark
- ... that the spinner shark (pictured) is named for the spinning leaps it makes out of the water as part of its feeding strategy?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hook is not source, as far as I could tell. Just source it and the article will be ready. :) CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- OK -- Yzx (talk) 00:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and date verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Great job! CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've added an online source.Smallman12q (talk) 00:51, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm... looks like it's been reverted. CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I see. Well the name isn't mentioned again in the article, so I didn't know where else to put it. On a side note, they also reverted the external link=P. Perhaps yzx should add it further in the article and cite it there.Smallman12q (talk) 00:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Huh? It's stated in the "Feeding" section, with a cite. -- Yzx (talk) 01:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- My apologies, I'm falling asleep=P. I'll add the inline online citation.Smallman12q (talk) 01:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Either way, it's been verified, so I wouldn't worry about it. :) CarpetCrawlermessage me 06:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- My apologies, I'm falling asleep=P. I'll add the inline online citation.Smallman12q (talk) 01:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Huh? It's stated in the "Feeding" section, with a cite. -- Yzx (talk) 01:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I see. Well the name isn't mentioned again in the article, so I didn't know where else to put it. On a side note, they also reverted the external link=P. Perhaps yzx should add it further in the article and cite it there.Smallman12q (talk) 00:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm... looks like it's been reverted. CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Pisces V
- ... that in 2002, the submersible Pisces V (pictured) and her sister vessel discovered a Japanese midget submarine in Pearl Harbor, the first vessel to be sunk during the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor?
Created by Mattisse (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- alt ... that in 2002, the submersible Pisces V (pictured) and her sister vessel discovered a Japanese midget submarine in Pearl Harbor, the first vessel to be sunk during the 1941 attack? (shorter)
Length, date, and source for hook verified. CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Someone changed the hook in the article so that it and does not match the reference. The new statement is generally known to be true, says the editor, but now it is unreferenced. I would like to change it back, but don't want to get into trouble. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- The hook was not changed in any way and still exists in the body of the article exactly how it was written. Mattisse is getting confused with the lead section and seems to think it is the same as the hook, which is already in the body, exactly as it appears in the DYK. Please look at the third paragraph of the second section: . In August 2002, Pisces V and her sister vessel discovered a Japanese midget submarine, the first vessel to be sunk during the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor.[2] Viriditas (talk) 01:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I apologize. It is always a point of pride to me that the DYK checker does not have to rummage arround in the body of the article to find the hook. I am very sorry. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:42, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Although I didn't know it at the time, I didn't make the change to the lead section until after the hook was verified. Your original hook is still there, in the third paragraph. Viriditas (talk) 01:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Now I'm confused. It would seem the hook is the second sentence of the article. Law type! snype? 01:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- The hook is in the third paragraph of the second section. Is there any way I can help clear up your confusion? It has been verified and there is currently no problem at all. Viriditas (talk) 01:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yup, it's in the third paragraph of the second section. The lead has a similar sentence that paraphrases the incident. Good to go. Shubinator (talk) 01:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
What is the sister submersibles' name?According to a referenced statement in Error: {{sclass}} invalid format code: 6. Should be 0–5, or blank (help), this discovered sub was the one sunk by the American destroyer Ward. So after adding some of that in...- ALT2 ... that the submersible Pisces V (pictured) and her sister Pisces IV discovered a Japanese midget submarine that was sunk by USS Ward in the first American shots fired in World War II? —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Greater Manchester bus route 192
- ... that Greater Manchester bus route 192 was the first in the UK to have solar powered on-street ticket machines?
Created by Majorly (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, and online source is verified. Synergy 21:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Chicago Times-Herald race
- ... that the 1895 Chicago Times-Herald race, won by Charles Duryea's Motorized Wagon, was the first auto race in the United States?
Created by Charles Edward (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, and online source is verified. Synergy 22:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
K. Subrahmanyam
Vajpayee
- ... that, according to K. Subrahmanyam, Atal Behari Vajpayee once opposed India's nuclear program as Foreign Minister, but later authorized India's 1998 nuclear tests as Prime Minister?
Created by Jokester99 (talk). Self nom at 18:06 UTC, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Article hasn't been significantly expanded this month. Shubinator (talk) 22:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Article contained 8457 bytes of prose on April 29 and just 10395 today for a an expansion factor of just under 1.23x. I strongly doubt this article can be expanded by another 30,000 bytes of prose to reach 5x in the next few days. - Dravecky (talk) 23:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Forgive my ignorance but the article's history page lists size as 21,657 bytes. Plus revisions in May have taken it to 21,657 from 14,508. Is there more that needs to be done? - Jokester99 (talk), 9 May 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 05:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC).
- Yes. DYK is to highlight "new" articles on Wikipedia. Over a number of years, consensus has determined that this means an article created from scratch within the last five days or an older stub article that has had its prose content (the words not in infoboxes, headers, formatting, and such) expanded to at least five times what it had been previously within the last five days. For example, the KBCH article has existed as a stub for a little over a year and as of April 26th was just 312 bytes of prose (about 56 words). On May 5th, I expanded it significantly to 3842 bytes of prose (about 631 words) for a roughly 12x expansion. The K. Subrahmanyam article, as detailed above, as only undergone a 1.23x expansion, far short of the quintupling of readable prose required by the standards. I hope this clears this up. - Dravecky (talk) 06:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The Terminator Decoupling
- ... that Nobel Laureate George Smoot (pictured), who made a cameo appearance on the episode "The Terminator Decoupling" of the series The Big Bang Theory, personally requested the producers to appear on the show?
Created by LeaveSleaves (talk). Self nom at 10:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- It should be- "who made a cameo appearance". Minor grammatical error. AvN 15:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Nobel Laureate George Smoot (pictured), who made a cameo appearance on the The Big Bang Theory episode "The Terminator Decoupling", personally requested the producers to appear on the show? slight rewrite to reduce characters
- ALT2... that Nobel Laureate George Smoot (pictured), whose work cemented the Big Bang theory, made a cameo appearance on the sitcom The Big Bang Theory episode "The Terminator Decoupling"?
I know ALT2 can be confusing, so choose the best one. LeaveSleaves 17:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT3... that Nobel Prize-winning physicist George Smoot (pictured) requested a cameo in the series The Big Bang Theory and appeared in the episode "The Terminator Decoupling"? Awadewit (talk) 23:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Source, length, and history verified. I've reworded the hook a bit in ALT3. Awadewit (talk) 23:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think mentioning Smoot's work on the actual Big Bang theory is what makes his appearance on The Big Bang Theory so hook-y. As such, I propose:
- ALT4... that Nobel Laureate George Smoot (pictured), whose work cemented the Big Bang theory, made a cameo appearance on the sitcom The Big Bang Theory in the episode "The Terminator Decoupling"? (Yes, it's close to ALT2 but with a slight grammar tweak) -Dravecky (talk) 06:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
London to Brighton Way (Roman road)
- ... that two trunk roads from London to the Sussex coast, the A22 and the A23 (pictured), use parts of the London to Brighton Way?
Created by Charlesdrakew (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that parts of the London to Brighton Way (Roman road) are built of iron slag from the Wealden iron industry?
- Large sections of the article are unsourced. Shubinator (talk) 23:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- The main source for the article is ref. 1, I D Margary, Roman Ways in the Weald 1965 Phoenix House, which is a rare book, so I appreciate that you cannot check that out. I can certainly insert that ref at more points where the text is not covered by other refs. The alternative hook does have a direct online reference (ref 2).--Charles (talk) 09:14, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history good; offline reference accepted in good faith. Thanks for adding the citations. Shubinator (talk) 21:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Bernt Holtsmark (expanded), Wilhelm Blakstad (new), Finn Blakstad (new)
- ... that Norwegian Minister of Agriculture and Member of Parliament Bernt Holtsmark had two first cousins, Wilhelm and Finn Blakstad, who were Members of Parliament too?
Expanded and created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and history verified for all articles; Norwegian source accepted in good faith. Awadewit (talk) 23:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Upthorpe Mill, Stanton
- ... that Stanton windmill (pictured) has a wooden windshaft?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 09:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and history verified; offline source accepted in good faith. Are wooden windshafts unusual? Awadewit (talk) 23:46, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Surviving wooden windshafts are fairly rare (guess about 10% of mills). Those in working windmills are rarer still. Reference #1 (online) also supports hook. Mjroots (talk) 03:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Iravan
- ... that in an annual festival in Koovagam, India, eunuchs and transvestites ritually marry the god Aravan (pictured)?
5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 06:34, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- expanded over 2 days.--Redtigerxyz Talk 06:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, date, image, and ref verified. Bsimmons666 (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- I request that User:Alastair Haines and User:Nvineeth be given the credit too for their copyediting of the article. --Redtigerxyz Talk 15:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- It's generous of you, but there is not really a formal system for giving or receiving credit anyways. They are free to put a "contributed to DKY XYZ" on their talk pages, of course. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 15:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Sir Galba
- ... that Sir Galba (born George Brindsley McSween in Grenada) who was a seminal and well-loved calypsonian in Trinidad in the 40s and 50s, committed suicide after stabbing his girlfriend on 18 Sept. 1957?
Created by John Hill (talk) 02:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC) Self nom at 02:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Hook is not verified. Some loose links need fixing. Article contains a number of peacock words and phrases. Dr. Blofeld White cat 16:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- I do agree with Dr. Blofeld's criticisms - they are indeed fair and I have tried to take them on board. I have removed some of the "peacock words and phrases" and given an on-line reference to the murder-suicide (I can remember when this happened - it shocked the nation - but I can find nothing in print about it other than the one reference - the online archives of Trindiad newspapers do not go back so far in time). If more needs to be done, please let me know. Unfortunately, because Sir Galba died so young and (I think), unlike many other calypsonians, never went overseas and became known to British or US audiences, there is almost no information available on him (except in people's memories), although he was for some years a major influence on the development of the calypso in Trinidad - and a favourite singer during my childhood at Carnival and on the local radio. His recordings are now so extremely rare that one of his relatives had only heard part of one track recorded by him after years of searching. Fortunately, my parents had a 45 rpm record with his fabulous song "Bajan Diplomat" on it which my sister inherited and I have just made available to all to freely download as referred to in the article. Have a listen, its great! Sir Galba deserves to be remembered! John Hill (talk) 23:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this site a reliable source? It says it is a blog? Dr. Blofeld (talk) 10:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 7
Palestinian Land Law
- ... that under the Palestinian Land Law, the sale of land to Jews is punishable by the death penalty?
- Palestinian Land Law – Brewcrewer () ()
I have removed this hook from the queue, as it is clearly not ready for prime time in my view. Both the hook and the article are POV, failing to contextualize the information in any way, for example by providing explanations for why this "law" has supposedly been implemented. In fact, I can't even find a solid reference which confirms this is an actual statute passed by the PA, let alone with the name "Palestinian Land Law". So I have my doubts this article can be redeemed, but in the meantime I'm placing a POV tag on it until at least some of the outstanding problems have been resolved. Gatoclass (talk) 04:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I have now placed a merge tag on the article. Gatoclass (talk) 05:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Kim Kang-woo
- ... that Kim Kang-woo spent about ten days acquainting himself with a cow to prepare for scenes in the film Le Grand Chef, likening the experience to working with a sensitive actress?
Created by PC78 (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Earl Sprackling
- ... that Earl Sprackling, selected the best college football player of 1910, gained 456 total yards and kicked three field goals in a single game?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
We need a source for "best football player of 1910". The cited SI article only gives the quote. Daniel Case (talk) 02:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- There are three sources cited in the article picking him as the best football player of 1910: (1) "ESPN College Football Encyclopedia: The Complete History of the Game", [7] (2) a newspaper report from 1913 (Every Year Has Had Its Football Hero), and (3)Sports Illustrated. [8] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs) 03:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Songs in the Dark
- ... that Songs in the Dark is a live music and poetry event that showcases the Hoxton anti-folk scene?
Created by Clusterbf (talk). Nominated by Clerks (talk) at 13:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
The article only has 1146 characters of prose. It needs to be at least 1500 characters. --Bruce1eetalk 13:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Tainan Air Group
- ... that during its one year of existence, the Tainan Air Group (pictured) produced more aces than any other fighter unit in the Imperial Japanese Navy?
Created by Cla68 (talk). Self nom at 06:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Hook not verified with a source. Dr. Blofeld White cat 17:00, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date, and hook verified. Book ref accepted on good faith. Synergy 21:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Savras
- ... that the holy symbol of Savras, a fictional deity in Dungeons & Dragons, is a crystal ball?
- Comment: Article is still primarily in-universe, but has an excellent number of citations.
5x expanded by Hekerui (talk). Nominated by Drilnoth (talk) at 01:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Alternative hook:
- ... that in the fictional Forgotten Realms world, the deity Savras was destroyed in a battle between gods?
- –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
4851/1401 = 3.5x prose expansion. Please continue expanding. Shubinator (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, right. I'd thought that it was enough of an expansion because the byte count was about an x10 increase. Is there an easy way to figure out the word count? –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 22:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, it's a prose byte count, not a word count. The short explanation is at C1, which links to this longer explanation. Art LaPella (talk) 23:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, but the page that you linked to discusses new articles, not fivefold expansions like what this is. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 01:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- The "longer explanation" link describes the script that counts prose characters. You want the counter to say at least 7005. Shubinator (talk) 03:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, my short explanation was about counting new articles, but the fivefold rule at F1 says (in less detail) to count prose in the same way, and then divide the new count by the old count. Art LaPella (talk) 03:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the clarification. This was my first DYK nom and I'd kind of thought that it was total byte size, not prose size. Thanks! –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 14:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Oliver Cromwell's head
- ... that following Oliver Cromwell's posthumous execution in 1661, his head (pictured) was placed on a spike outside Westminster Hall for over 20 years?
Created by PeterSymonds (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and date all good, offline references accepted in good faith. I found it particularly amusing that we have such an excellent article on Cromwell's head. I was going to make a joke about suggesting an article about Albert Einstein's brain, but then I found out... we actually have that. Oo. Todor→Bozhinov 18:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, yes. When I was looking for an appropriate category I came across Famous body parts...which was certainly interestingly populated! Thank you for reviewing. PeterSymonds (talk) 19:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Politics (poem), The Circus Animals' Desertion
- ... that William Butler Yeats intended the poem "Politics" to be an envoi to "The Circus Animals' Desertion" and for it to be printed last in his final collection of poems?
5x expanded by Mrathel (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Since posting this request, I have decided to turn it into a double; please let me know if this breaks any rules:)Mrathel (talk) 18:30, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Expansions, histories good; AGF on offline references. Shubinator (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hippocampus kuda
A pregnant male seahorse!
- ... that the male Hippocampus kuda, or common seahorse (pictured), is the only male animal that gets "pregnant"?
Created by Drew R. Smith (talk) at 11:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: This is a bit misleading, since all male seahorses and pipefishes carry young internally, so this species isn't the "only" one. Also, Hippocampus kuda should be italicized, as a scientific name. -- Yzx (talk) 21:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that unlike most animals, the male Hippocampus kuda, or common seahorse, carries and delivers the young? Drew Smith What I've done 08:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but that isn't really stated explicitly in the article. Daniel Case (talk) 02:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- No offense, but did you even read the article? The entire reproduction section tells in explicit detail how the male seahorse carries and delivers the young!Drew Smith What I've done 04:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Length and date check out, AGF on offline sources - what a fascinating little creature, thanks. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- No offense, but did you even read the article? The entire reproduction section tells in explicit detail how the male seahorse carries and delivers the young!Drew Smith What I've done 04:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Friedrich Foertsch
- ... that Friedrich Foertsch was the second chief of staff of the Bundeswehr and recipient of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross during World War II?
Created by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history good; foreign language sources accepted in good faith. In the future please add an inline citation at the end of the hook fact. Shubinator (talk) 22:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 6
The Brian Keith Show
- ... that the 1972–1974 NBC sitcom The Brian Keith Show featured Brian Keith and Shelley Fabares as father-daughter pediatricians living in Hawaii?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
ALT:... that after playing Miss Jane Hathaway on The Beverly Hillbillies, Nancy Kulp portrayed the wealthy landlady Mrs. Millard Gruber on another sitcom, The Brian Keith Show on NBC?
Hook is not sourced, and other than the book reference, I'm not a fan of the other references used in the article. CarpetCrawlermessage me 06:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
First sentence now referenced.Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Anyone know if the source is considered a reliable source? CarpetCrawlermessage me 00:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Unreliable sources. This user has been repeatedly warned about using unreliable sources, particularly IMDB. Awadewit (talk) 00:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Boys' Club (Parks and Recreation)
- ... that the real-life Indiana-based Upland Brewing Company provided beer bottles and props for the Parks and Recreation episode "Boys' Club" to help create an authentic Indiana setting?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 22:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Source, history, and length verified. However, some of the sources used in the article are not reliable: Twitter, Cinema Blend, for example. TV Squad and the Conservative Journal seem like borderline sources to me - I'm not sure that they are reliable. I'm also not sure that we can use the NBC videos. Awadewit (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- For the purposes of this DYK though, the source works, right? The other issues seem as if they can be resolved later, but the source for this specific hook is a legit source. — Hunter Kahn (contribs) 00:46, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- No—an article with a plethora of non-reliable sources is not suitable to appear on the Main Page. —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, well, that being the case, I've dropped the unreliable sources (Twitter, Cinema Blend) and the borderline Conservative Journal one. As far as the videos and TV Squad, which were cited as only questionable rather than unreliable, those same sources are used in The Office articles I've helped promote to GA, like Golden Ticket (The Office) and Casual Friday (The Office). So I'm pretty sure this should be suitable now for DYK? — Hunter Kahn (contribs) 02:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- No—an article with a plethora of non-reliable sources is not suitable to appear on the Main Page. —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- For the purposes of this DYK though, the source works, right? The other issues seem as if they can be resolved later, but the source for this specific hook is a legit source. — Hunter Kahn (contribs) 00:46, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
KISS Pinball
- ... that the first KISS Pinball machine was developed in 1978?
Created by A Nobody (talk). Self nom at 02:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
The length is barely over 1500 bytes, and the "Reception" section is filled with "quotes". The hook is nothing "interesting" to me too.--Caspian blue 02:44, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Says you. I think the fact that there is even a KISS pinball machine is interesting enough. ;) CarpetCrawlermessage me 21:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Caspian blue. Most of the sections are one sentence long. In addition, the bulk of the sources are unreliable - they are self-published sources. Awadewit (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Without the long quotation in "Reception" (which we can't/shouldn't towards the prose count) this article falls well short of 1500 bytes of prose. There should be plenty of material to expand this article—KISS is hardly obscure and the pinball machine is famous on its own—but this article is too reliant on poorly sourced trivia for its slight bulk. - Dravecky (talk) 18:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Caspian blue. Most of the sections are one sentence long. In addition, the bulk of the sources are unreliable - they are self-published sources. Awadewit (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 5
Bill of Federalism
- ... that Prof. Randy Barnett composed a set of ten Constitutional Amendments designed to limit Federal Legislative power and empower the States, calling it the Bill of Federalism?
- ALT1:... that Prof. Randy Barnett proposed to coerce Congress to pass the Bill of Federalism, a list of ten amendments, by threatening to hold a Constitutional Convention for the first time in U.S. history, a move some have called dangerous?
- ALT2:... that Prof. Randy Barnett first floated the idea of a 'Federalist amendment' on the Glenn Beck Show – an idea which ultimately became the Bill of Federalism, a list of ten amendments designed to limit Federal Legislative power and empower the States?
- Comment: This is my first article, so feel free to make suggestions (including better hooks)...
Created by TachyonJack (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
AdmiralKolchak (talk) 09:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)I'm very sorry, but a new article must be nominated within 5 days of it being created. In this case, its been about 7 days. Maybe you could nominate the article for GA-class instead.
- This was created
02:16, 6 May 2009(struck, wrong timestampl, see below Chzz ► 13:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)), and nominated for DYK 00:19, 12 May 2009 - that'sjust under 67 days (edited to correct, wrong timestamp, see below Chzz ► 13:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)). A lot of people are confused by the complex DYK 'rules', and as it's a new user, I request that discretion is exercised, and the nomination be considered. Let us make new users welcome, and remember that no rules are set in stone. Please consider this nomination, regards, Chzz ► 11:47, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, the history shows the article was created at 14:09, 5 May 2009. However, I confess I considered bending the rules (as Wikipedia allows) on account of the work done by a new user. I believe we should wait for other editors to put in their 10 cents over whether breaking the rules is the right course of action in this case, or whether coming up to 7 days is too much of a rule-break. AdmiralKolchak (talk) 11:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- In my opinion, we should go for WP:IAR on this one, since I fell it is more important to encourage new users to keep producing quality content than to strictly adhere to DYK rules. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 12:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm leaning towards WP:IAR as well. If this is ok with everyone, I'm going to not reevaluate for a few more hours to allow more support/opposes to the motion for IAR. If consensus supports IAR I will reevaluate. AdmiralKolchak (talk) 12:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't normally comment here, but I do watch things and I feel this is definitely a prime candidate to ignore all rules and go ahead with it. What difference does a day or two really make? Jenuk1985 | Talk 13:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- This was created
- I'm inclined to follow the rules on this one and declare it ineligible, largely because I think the article verges on being an advertisement. However, article length and creation date are OK. The original hook length is OK, but the two ALT hooks are too long. --Orlady (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't agree the article reads like an advertisement. However, I concur the two ALT hooks are too long, and I don't think the original hook is appropriate; as codified by C2 of the DYK additional rules hooks should be written for a worldwide audience, and I think the original hook will be lost on many non-Americans. On the plus side, consensus is for letting this article off the time rule-break, and I'm happy with the length of the article as well. I'll suggest a new hook shortly. AdmiralKolchak (talk) 19:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- It doesn't read like an advertisement to me, but I am asking myself whether this would really constitute a notable topic. The sources are all rightwing and the sourcing itself is very thin - a piece from Fox News, an op ed from WSJ, plus a blogsite and the John Birch Society. Is this really sufficient coverage to justify a wikipedia article? I have my doubts. Gatoclass (talk) 11:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fox News is certainly a notable news organization, it qualifies as third party coverage just as much as NBC does. Plus, as long as it is not one of the "commentators" like Bill O'Reilly (ughh, that man), it does not tend to be so Conservative as to be inaccurate. Not to mention the Wall Street Journal article. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Having had a little time to think this over, I feel this topic is of dubious notability since the only significant coverage it has achieved is from the Murdoch press, a news outlet that has frequently been accused of partisanship.
- I have my doubts that an AFD would succeed, given that there are probably enough conservatives on wp willing to vote in favour of retention, but regardless I don't think we should run it here at DYK, unless coverage from more neutral sources can be found. Wikipedia does not exist as a free platform for the promotion of causes embraced by News Corp Inc., or any other group for that matter. Gatoclass (talk) 12:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Nout Wellink
- ... that Nout Wellink has been the President of De Nederlandsche Bank since July 1, 1997?
5x expanded by Permethius (talk). Self nom at 14:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
973 characters. Needs to be at least 4230 characters (5x expansion). Awadewit (talk) 01:32, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 4
Arius berneyi
- ... that Arius berneyi is also known as Berney's Shark Catfish?
Created by Mynameinc (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I deleted the.--Wetman (talk) 16:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm not an expert when it comes to the usage of scientific or common names. mynameinc 16:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Not 1500 characters. Also, could we find a slightly more interesting hook? Awadewit (talk) 19:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Length problem addressed. To be frank, it's a catfish, and catfish aren't very interesting. mynameinc 00:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- On the contrary, catfish can be fascinating but this hook is far from such. Any alts? - Dravecky (talk) 00:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know an interesting fact about any catfish. This probably can be attributed to the fact that I have never seen a catfish, photographs aside. I am getting some more information from the WikiProject leader, so I may find something interesting. mynameinc 01:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: "... that the genus name of Arius berneyi, also known as Berney's Shark Catfish, is based on the Greek word arios, meaning "warlike" or "hostile"? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- I thought about that, but it had more to do with the genus than the species. mynameinc 21:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- The two websites used as sources for the article appear to be self-published. Do they meet the requirements for SPS? Awadewit (talk) 19:37, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't publish either. I'm not even from Australia. mynameinc
The cited sources appear to be maintained primarily by amateur fish fanciers -- not necessarily unreliable, but not the highest quality of sources. I found some additional info on the reliable fishbase.com website (as well as an Australian gov source), and there are some inconsistencies with information in the article. I'm not comfortable highlighting this article on the main page in its current state. --Orlady (talk) 16:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't publish either. I'm not even from Australia. mynameinc
- The two websites used as sources for the article appear to be self-published. Do they meet the requirements for SPS? Awadewit (talk) 19:37, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
- I thought about that, but it had more to do with the genus than the species. mynameinc 21:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: "... that the genus name of Arius berneyi, also known as Berney's Shark Catfish, is based on the Greek word arios, meaning "warlike" or "hostile"? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know an interesting fact about any catfish. This probably can be attributed to the fact that I have never seen a catfish, photographs aside. I am getting some more information from the WikiProject leader, so I may find something interesting. mynameinc 01:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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