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I think due to your health concerns you should take a break and step back from Wikipedia for a few days. This may also give you some clarity. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 23:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC) |
I think due to your health concerns you should take a break and step back from Wikipedia for a few days. This may also give you some clarity. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 23:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thank you, this is a good perspective. I tried to stay away but I've been hesitant to back down and be chased off wikipedia on the basis of being a disabled person. But, at the end of day, my health is first and foremost. I just know that, if I take 2 weeks off and come back and find I've been blocked "when no one was looking" by someone who has spent the 2 weeks I've been away and unable to defend myself block shopping me I'll probably keel over. But, I trust your counsel and will take a chance on a sabbatical. [[User:Nothughthomas|Nothughthomas]] ([[User talk:Nothughthomas#top|talk]]) 23:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC) |
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RULE 1. I communicate on this page in a very frank and forthright style. If this offends you, you have the option of not using this forum and keeping the discussion on the appropriate entry discussion page.
RULE 2. I am wholly uninterested in the politics of wikipedia. I request no one leave comments on my Talk page unless in response to an inquiry I have made to them or in the case of a critical matter or as required by guidelines. If you don't meet these conditions I kindly request you not leave comments here. Thank you.
EXPLANATION FOR RULES. For several weeks I have been followed by an extremely aggressive wikistalker in a position of power on wikipedia. As a survivor of domestic abuse I am sensitive to the signs of when a bad online relationship has the potential to develop into a dangerous IRL relationship. For my own safety and security I have had to impose these rules and enforce them on everyone. Thank you for your understanding and patience.
I apologise for putting back the block notices. I didn't realise your block has now expired. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- This is the fifth request in a space of 24 hours I have made to you to stop editing my talk page. PLEASE STOP. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- If I have something to say that is civil and pertinent, then I will post it on your user talk page. That's what they are there for! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- The great volume and extreme speed with which you are making edits, often overlapping and conflicting, on this talk page indicates you are not able to self-regulate or self-police actual important comments, etc. This is causing a real organization headache for me. I know your efforts are well-intentioned but, perhaps you could find a different user to befriend for a bit? Just AGF that I am competent to handle organization of my own affairs without your assistance (which I do appreciate, but I also like to think and act for myself, too). Thanks for your kind consideration. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I appreciate your assumption of good faith Nothughthomas, I will not reorganize your talk page in future, though I'm confused why you feel that I am making edits "at speed"... :-) Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- PLEASE STOP. I don't know what else I can do other than ask you to stop. There are many opportunities for you to make friends on wikipedia. I'm sure you're a very nice person but I just don't have time to commit to developing the kind of ongoing interaction between us you're apparently looking for. PLEASE STOP DOING THIS. Thank you for your kind consideration. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, but you asked me a question! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I really want to continue to AGF but this has really become just too much. STOP THIS. SIXTH REQUEST. Thank you. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, but you asked me a question! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- PLEASE STOP. I don't know what else I can do other than ask you to stop. There are many opportunities for you to make friends on wikipedia. I'm sure you're a very nice person but I just don't have time to commit to developing the kind of ongoing interaction between us you're apparently looking for. PLEASE STOP DOING THIS. Thank you for your kind consideration. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I appreciate your assumption of good faith Nothughthomas, I will not reorganize your talk page in future, though I'm confused why you feel that I am making edits "at speed"... :-) Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- The great volume and extreme speed with which you are making edits, often overlapping and conflicting, on this talk page indicates you are not able to self-regulate or self-police actual important comments, etc. This is causing a real organization headache for me. I know your efforts are well-intentioned but, perhaps you could find a different user to befriend for a bit? Just AGF that I am competent to handle organization of my own affairs without your assistance (which I do appreciate, but I also like to think and act for myself, too). Thanks for your kind consideration. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- If I have something to say that is civil and pertinent, then I will post it on your user talk page. That's what they are there for! - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 10:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- This is the fifth request in a space of 24 hours I have made to you to stop editing my talk page. PLEASE STOP. Nothughthomas (talk) 10:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
(undent) You can remove his comments, you know. And he can't really do diddly squat about it, since you control your user page. Just revert him, and eventually he'll get the point and go away. Jtrainor (talk) 06:01, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Really?
You're filing a complaint about me when I was trying to help you? You should read WP:CSD - A7 did not apply in that case, still doesn't. You should've used WP:CSD#G4. I went ahead and replaced that tag for you. XXX antiuser eh? 23:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- You are absolutely not to leave any further threats on my Talk page. I have no interest in entertaining you and your pseudo-science, UFO crowd trying to litter wikipedia with entries about people who say they've invented time machines and are being pursued by the government because of their knowledge of aliens. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you're on about. I'm not trying to litter WP with anything, I was just applying WP policy to an erroneous speedy deletion nomination. I am not a part of any "pseudo-science, UFO crowd" as you so allege. Look at my edit history and you'll see that. In fact, I mentioned in my previous message to you, before you blanked your talk page, that I didn't even know the subject of the article. You're the one who's being disruptive, uncivil and assuming bad faith. XXX antiuser eh? 23:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Also, please provide a diff of when I left a threat on your page. I have never done such a thing and do take issue with you alleging that I did. XXX antiuser eh? 23:14, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, PLEASE, stop junking up my Talk page. Third request. How many will it take before you respect my Talk page and my wishes regarding it? I'm not interested in debating UFO conspiracy theories here. I'm interested in bettering wikipedia. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- You're the one who keeps bringing up UFOs. Talk pages are for talking, and you can't expect me to remain quiet when you accuse me of something I haven't done. I'm talking about Wikipedia policy and how the speedy deletion criteria apply to previously deleted (per AfD) pages. You seem to not be able to grasp that. Please read my previous messages to you and you'll see that. XXX antiuser eh? 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- My Talk page, my rules. Stop junking it up. Fourth request. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Fine, this will be my final message to you. Read WP:CIVIL and WP:BITE and try to familiarise yourself with speedy deletion criteria before tagging a page for speedy deletion again. XXX antiuser eh? 23:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Fifth request to stop junking up my Talk page ignored. WP:CIVIL complaint filed. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- I've noticed you make this claim before, when you have done nothing of the sort. I would advise you that this could be seen as threatening. You have tried this sort of "leave my talk page alone" trick with me before, Nothughthomas, and it got you nowhere. I'm advising that you be indefinitely blocked on AN/I, you might want to plead your case there. You are getting incredibly disruptive. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Due to our previous interaction I have asked you seven times not to post on my Talk page. Other admins have personally contacted you and counseled you not to do so. I would ask you please make the choice not to do so. Due to our previous interaction these discussions always spiral out of control and are disruptive to the community. Thank you for considering my seven requests. Nothughthomas (talk) 08:10, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- I've noticed you make this claim before, when you have done nothing of the sort. I would advise you that this could be seen as threatening. You have tried this sort of "leave my talk page alone" trick with me before, Nothughthomas, and it got you nowhere. I'm advising that you be indefinitely blocked on AN/I, you might want to plead your case there. You are getting incredibly disruptive. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Fifth request to stop junking up my Talk page ignored. WP:CIVIL complaint filed. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Fine, this will be my final message to you. Read WP:CIVIL and WP:BITE and try to familiarise yourself with speedy deletion criteria before tagging a page for speedy deletion again. XXX antiuser eh? 23:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- My Talk page, my rules. Stop junking it up. Fourth request. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- You're the one who keeps bringing up UFOs. Talk pages are for talking, and you can't expect me to remain quiet when you accuse me of something I haven't done. I'm talking about Wikipedia policy and how the speedy deletion criteria apply to previously deleted (per AfD) pages. You seem to not be able to grasp that. Please read my previous messages to you and you'll see that. XXX antiuser eh? 23:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, PLEASE, stop junking up my Talk page. Third request. How many will it take before you respect my Talk page and my wishes regarding it? I'm not interested in debating UFO conspiracy theories here. I'm interested in bettering wikipedia. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- You are absolutely not to leave any further threats on my Talk page. I have no interest in entertaining you and your pseudo-science, UFO crowd trying to litter wikipedia with entries about people who say they've invented time machines and are being pursued by the government because of their knowledge of aliens. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:09, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Health
I hope you feel better. If it is a heart issue and something ongoing/urgent, you should call your doctor and/or an ambulance. Health should be first priority, over and above anything on the Internet. :( Hope things go well for you, Cirt (talk) 08:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your well wishes. I'll be okay, I just have a nitolingual spray I'm supposed to take if this happens again. I know when to call the doctor if it gets more serious. I've mostly had a good experience on wikipedia but when Tbsdy started stalking me over an edit dispute in a global warming issue it just got me a little panicky and is just something I need to monitor and pace my participation in wikipedia, and know when to stop participating when he sees which entries I'm in and comes back after me. But I'll be okay - I'm a tough old bird. :) Nothughthomas (talk) 08:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
My apologies for my hostility on your AfD on Bernard Baars. My patience has been sorely tried by the current flood of unjustified deletions that waste the time of editors. You deserve credit for being willing to change your mind in light of fresh evidence, which many others are not prepared to do. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC).
- There is no need to apologize; my patience, as well, has been tried lately by a problem user. Your edits and contributions have been impressive and an invaluable asset to wikipedia. Nothughthomas (talk) 22:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Editor review
I have posted a comment regarding your review on Wikipedia:Editor_review/antiuser. XXX antiuser eh? 22:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- I have acknowledged your comment. Nothughthomas (talk) 22:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
re Serious Problem
I think due to your health concerns you should take a break and step back from Wikipedia for a few days. This may also give you some clarity. Cirt (talk) 23:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, this is a good perspective. I tried to stay away but I've been hesitant to back down and be chased off wikipedia on the basis of being a disabled person. But, at the end of day, my health is first and foremost. I just know that, if I take 2 weeks off and come back and find I've been blocked "when no one was looking" by someone who has spent the 2 weeks I've been away and unable to defend myself block shopping me I'll probably keel over. But, I trust your counsel and will take a chance on a sabbatical. Nothughthomas (talk) 23:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)