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These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.{{or|date=October 2018}} |
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My uncle is having surgery, so I'm going to be out of town for a week or so, and may not be in a position to respond to messages until then. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:25, 4 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:Going in a couple of hours, that is. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:29, 4 August 2014 (UTC) |
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::Hope it goes ok. [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|talk]]) 14:47, 4 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks. It should be fine, barring the small chances that come with any surgery, but he never married so it's down to my family to watch him afterward. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC) |
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I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them: |
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*[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/14/portable-gas-can-explodes-no-flame-arrestor/3551143/ News article] |
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*[https://stateimpact.npr.org/oklahoma/2012/07/09/why-the-largest-maker-of-portable-gas-cans-is-going-out-of-business/ News article] |
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*[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/my-gas-can-safe-flna2D11693927 News article] |
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*[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/warning-scientists-say-gas-cans-carry-risk-explosion-flna2D11691903 News article] |
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*[http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20121105/News/211050326 News article] |
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*[https://www.nwcg.gov/sites/default/files/products/pms442.pdf Gov't regulation document] |
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*[https://cpsc.gov/content/consumers-warned-against-storing-gasoline Gov't regulation document] |
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*[https://www.nps.gov/articles/fire-p52-gas-cans.htm Gov't regulation document] |
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*[http://pfcma.com/ "Non-Profit" run by the companies that make these things (haven't actually read through and found specific pages yet)] |
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The last source definitely doesn't establish [[WP:NOTE]] and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion. |
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I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
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::I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not [[Jerrycan]]s (which is where [[gas can]] currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan). |
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::There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
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:::I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think [[fuel container]] is a safe generic term. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
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*I guess maybe a redirect to [[Bin bag]] would suffice? [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC) |
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Finally home. Surgery was done quickly, recovery took forever. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 22:53, 14 August 2014 (UTC) |
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I should have announced this sooner but it just kinda crept up on me. Between various issues (less prep time at work, trying to affordably diet and exercise better), I've just not had enough energy when I'm home beyond what I need to get ready for the next work day or upcoming week. |
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:Good to have you back. Do you think [[Historicity of Jesus]] should go to ANI? I think it is probably at least close to past due myself. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 23:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC) |
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::It kinda did last week. I'm still getting settled (wheelchairs, luggage, car maintenance, and lack of sleep) and probably won't get involved in anything too heavy until tomorrow, so I'd probably be useless until then, but if you've got a good case (maybe with plenty of diffs), have at it. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:::Sleep. You've earned it. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 23:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC) |
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I've bought some sources to expand articles on Goetic demons, though. I may work some on that without fully coming off of the Wikibreak. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC) |
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:Hi Ian - we haven't interacted much, so sorry for coming out of the blue, but I wanted to tell you that when I was in my 'I have an account, but I mostly just read stuff without commenting' stage, your contributions were a real inspiration for me to actually get involved. You were one of the most active editors on some of the pages I was interested in, and I saw your name come up time and again attached to sensible, rational comments. So, yeah - I'm a fan. |
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:Anyone deserves and can self-award a break whenever they want to; I'd suggest that you have definitely earned one if you feel like it, and should take as long as you need/want. If you want to do some article-writing without engaging with admin stuff (or anything else) you're still doing good work - thank you! [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span> <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 23:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC) |
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::I am going to pile on here as another "out of the blue" editor. I don't think we have ever interacted directly at all but you have certainly provided value to me as an editor (and no doubt to Wikipedia as a whole) and that does not go away because you have other things to focus on whether that shift in focus is temporary or permanent. Now go get some exercise! :) [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC) |
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1) The original version which was painted in 1275 was in black/white and the wikipedia shows a colored version of 14th century portrait. |
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2) In Chinese historical sources including in Russia, it clearly mentions the portraits was drawn under supervision of Kublai Khan who would have known how Genghis Khan looked like |
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3) YET the wikipedia misleads people by adding un-sourced claims like " no accurate portrait of Genghis Khan exist " including adding un-sourced claims about him having red hair and blue eyes based on one persian historian who was born after 20 years after Genghis Khan died. |
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:I do not care. Your additions plagiarized from the source you cited. That is stealing, it is illegal, and it will get you blocked if you keep it up. As I said, [[paraphrase]] your additions. [[WP:AGF|Assume good faith]] and actually pay attention to the reasons why I reverted you. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 17:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:: Okay. I'm sorry. I will just rephase ( NOT COPYING) with just a little bit similar. You have Chinese wikipedia and Russian wikipedia mentioning the portrait being supervised under Kublai Khan why the hell does this English wikipedia does the opposite and even add unsource claims about him having blue eyes and red hair? The part about I wrote " from the 14th century of Yuan dynasty Mongol court which depicts Genghis Khan with East Asian Mongol features " was NOT COPIED TEXT but the other part was indeed copied from the text. I will just rephrase it. [[User:WorldCreaterFighter|WorldCreaterFighter]] ([[User talk:WorldCreaterFighter|talk]]) 08:57, 15 August 2014 (UTC) |
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:::The Chinese and Russian Wikipedias do not have any authority over the English Wikipedia. The different language Wikipedias do not have authority over each other. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 17:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC) |
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" Which is the portrait of Genghis Khan in the 14th century drawn by the Mongol court of Yuan dynasty during the rule of Kublai Khan, who was also oldest grandson of Genghis Khan. " It is basically contradicting the picture of Genghis Khan which says " Genghis Khan as portrayed in a 14th-century Yuan era album ". Kublai Khan was born in 1215, before Genghis Khan died at 1227 so he would have been at least up to 12 years old to see Genghis Khan |
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It doesn't require a source or reference because this is just a freaking basic commonsense. Unless you're telling me that the portrait of Genghis Khan wasn't drawn in the 14th century. Unless you're telling me China wasn't ruled by Mongol court Yuan dynasty, and it wasn't during the time of Kublai Khan. |
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:As I said [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genghis_Khan&diff=prev&oldid=621431661 in the edit summary] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Genghis_Khan&diff=prev&oldid=621432030 on the talk page], every addition needs sources -- read [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:VERIFY]]. It does not matter if something is true if it is not verified through citations -- see [[Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth]]. [[WP:BURDEN|The burden is on you to add citations for material you add]]. [[WP:VERIFY]] is one of the founding cite policies, so if you don't agree with it, [[WP:ALTOUT|you may want to write elsewhere]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 13:10, 16 August 2014 (UTC) |
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Thanks to Wikipedia, I got to see alt-right talking points identified as such well before they became a part of mainstream conversation. Offline individuals who I trusted and respected started hinting at these talking points more and more. Pretty much every attempt to show them the source and goal of those ideas only stalled things at best. When politicians aren't stirring up the alt-right, they're defending those who stir them up, or defending those who defend the pandering, or saying we need to cooperate with those who are ultimately defending the alt-right. And the number of users I've seen hounded for saying [[WP:NONAZIS|"we shouldn't allow Nazis on the site because it's antithetical to this site's goals"]] is dismaying. Shame on the shriveled, minuscule, impotent souls whose petty grudges push them to defend fascism just to score points against someone. And if you're upset at my characterization of you as such, you're the one who put the shoe on, Cinderella. |
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On top of that, over the past decade, I've spent half of it on the other side of the world from my hometown. Though this has just slowed the rate at which I was growing tired, it hasn't stopped it. |
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I'm fucking sick of it all. I'd say "Nazis can all go to hell" but that's like telling shit to stink. Wait, no, at least shit has enough sense that it doesn't need to be told to do that. |
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I do want to come back. I'm aware that we'll never "go back to normal," that there is not and will never be a "new normal," that normal was always a monsterous lie, and that order is nothing but the local flavor of chaos. That thinking is actually kinda why I got along here as well as I did. |
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I do enjoy non-contentious admin work. Going through new user names and blocking obvious troll or spam accounts before anyone else can even report them is actually fun. |
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I have a bunch of new sources for [[Goetia]] related articles as well as sources for the [[Shams al-Ma'arif]] article. |
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I'm tired of pretending I prioritize [[WP:5P]] over [[WP:NONAZIS]]. I know enough about the site to know that saying that's going to bite me on the ass and that that that's not going to work well with my other plans to return. Going to be thinking about it but I'm certain there's no outcome I'm going to be happy with. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 09:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:Hi Ian - I came across your username just now while reading an old thread, and realised I hadn't seen you around in a while. I came here, and read this. All I can say is this: when I was a newb, you were one of the people who inspired me. I saw lots of sensible, level-headed comments and actions from you, and I thought 'Hey, Wikipedia is a little bit of the internet where there are good people running things. Maybe I could get involved here.' Do what's best for you, of course, but I wanted you to know that you made a difference, for me at least. [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span> <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 23:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC) |
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I noticed that after the fact, you beat me to the self-revert.--[[User:Loriendrew|<font color="#005000">☾Loriendrew☽</font>]] [[User talk:Loriendrew|<font color="#000080">☏''(talk)''</font>]] 23:08, 19 August 2014 (UTC) |
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—Hi, I did not misspell my own name, there's just not a P anywhere in there!
Wikipedia does not care about you or me being qualified scholars. Wikipedia is not a scholarly site, but a summary of sources that speak for themselves. We all have the right to edit, but there are rules to make sure that proper sources are used for appropriate articles and editors are civil. -- In other words: duh only book-lurnin we likes 's frum books, not school-folk wit deir fancy-shmancy deeplomas. Ye ain't gots to be unschooled to edit, but ya bettah bring yer damn sauces like uh chef at tha Italian resteeraunt.
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To-do: red plastic gas cans
These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.[original research?]
I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them:
- News article
- News article
- News article
- News article
- News article
- Gov't regulation document
- Gov't regulation document
- Gov't regulation document
- "Non-Profit" run by the companies that make these things (haven't actually read through and found specific pages yet)
The last source definitely doesn't establish WP:NOTE and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion.
I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. Acroterion (talk) 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not Jerrycans (which is where gas can currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan).
- There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think fuel container is a safe generic term. Acroterion (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I guess maybe a redirect to Bin bag would suffice? Ian.thomson (talk) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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I should have announced this sooner but it just kinda crept up on me. Between various issues (less prep time at work, trying to affordably diet and exercise better), I've just not had enough energy when I'm home beyond what I need to get ready for the next work day or upcoming week.
I've bought some sources to expand articles on Goetic demons, though. I may work some on that without fully coming off of the Wikibreak. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ian - we haven't interacted much, so sorry for coming out of the blue, but I wanted to tell you that when I was in my 'I have an account, but I mostly just read stuff without commenting' stage, your contributions were a real inspiration for me to actually get involved. You were one of the most active editors on some of the pages I was interested in, and I saw your name come up time and again attached to sensible, rational comments. So, yeah - I'm a fan.
- Anyone deserves and can self-award a break whenever they want to; I'd suggest that you have definitely earned one if you feel like it, and should take as long as you need/want. If you want to do some article-writing without engaging with admin stuff (or anything else) you're still doing good work - thank you! Girth Summit (blether) 23:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I am going to pile on here as another "out of the blue" editor. I don't think we have ever interacted directly at all but you have certainly provided value to me as an editor (and no doubt to Wikipedia as a whole) and that does not go away because you have other things to focus on whether that shift in focus is temporary or permanent. Now go get some exercise! :) S0091 (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
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You protected this one before, and I'd like a second set of eyes on what's been going on with an IP with a bad case of WP:IDONTHEARYOU. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
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Trying to come back
Every two weeks, when my email login expires and I have to log back in, I get the notification that "I" have too many failed logins and need to reset my password. Even after almost a year of inactivity, this is still the case. To the asshole(s) doing that, you could have made bank on crypto by now, and I'm saying that as someone who thinks all cryptocurrency is a scam.
Thanks to Wikipedia, I got to see alt-right talking points identified as such well before they became a part of mainstream conversation. Offline individuals who I trusted and respected started hinting at these talking points more and more. Pretty much every attempt to show them the source and goal of those ideas only stalled things at best. When politicians aren't stirring up the alt-right, they're defending those who stir them up, or defending those who defend the pandering, or saying we need to cooperate with those who are ultimately defending the alt-right. And the number of users I've seen hounded for saying "we shouldn't allow Nazis on the site because it's antithetical to this site's goals" is dismaying. Shame on the shriveled, minuscule, impotent souls whose petty grudges push them to defend fascism just to score points against someone. And if you're upset at my characterization of you as such, you're the one who put the shoe on, Cinderella.
On top of that, over the past decade, I've spent half of it on the other side of the world from my hometown. Though this has just slowed the rate at which I was growing tired, it hasn't stopped it.
I'm fucking sick of it all. I'd say "Nazis can all go to hell" but that's like telling shit to stink. Wait, no, at least shit has enough sense that it doesn't need to be told to do that.
I do want to come back. I'm aware that we'll never "go back to normal," that there is not and will never be a "new normal," that normal was always a monsterous lie, and that order is nothing but the local flavor of chaos. That thinking is actually kinda why I got along here as well as I did.
I do enjoy non-contentious admin work. Going through new user names and blocking obvious troll or spam accounts before anyone else can even report them is actually fun.
I have a bunch of new sources for Goetia related articles as well as sources for the Shams al-Ma'arif article.
I'm tired of pretending I prioritize WP:5P over WP:NONAZIS. I know enough about the site to know that saying that's going to bite me on the ass and that that that's not going to work well with my other plans to return. Going to be thinking about it but I'm certain there's no outcome I'm going to be happy with. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Ian - I came across your username just now while reading an old thread, and realised I hadn't seen you around in a while. I came here, and read this. All I can say is this: when I was a newb, you were one of the people who inspired me. I saw lots of sensible, level-headed comments and actions from you, and I thought 'Hey, Wikipedia is a little bit of the internet where there are good people running things. Maybe I could get involved here.' Do what's best for you, of course, but I wanted you to know that you made a difference, for me at least. Girth Summit (blether) 23:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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Just a quick thanks for penning the WP:YESPROMO essay. It's a brilliant piece and I have linked to it many times in my talk page messages! Cheers. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 00:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, there is a discussion about neutral point on view of the RFK Jr talk page and I am wondering what your say on it is. Logawinner (talk) 20:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- They were the editor that got onto be when I was making biased edits on religious articles when I was younger. I figured someone being on the other side of my troublemaking could make a much more informed decision than me that would be more unbiased. They are the one that taught me about NPOV. Logawinner (talk) 03:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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