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== To-do: red plastic gas cans == |
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Not actually putting up the tag, but I'm going to be spamming resumes at potential employers (not here) over the next few days. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:50, 27 March 2018 (UTC) |
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These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.{{or|date=October 2018}} |
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== Remove discretionary sanctions template from my Talk Page/ If you have time to put it there you have time to remove it == |
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I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them: |
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This is not [[WP:CIVIL]]. I have edited neither of the pages mentioned in the template nor have I taken any position but the one you say that you agree with. Remove the template. An apology from you is in order.[[User:CWH|ch]] ([[User talk:CWH|talk]]) 03:57, 2 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/14/portable-gas-can-explodes-no-flame-arrestor/3551143/ News article] |
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:{{ping|CWH}} You asked what discretionary sanctions meant. If you read the template with the [[WP:AGF|assumption of good faith]], you'd realize that the template itself is not an action, merely a notification. Unless and until it is settled that there's no reasonable and good-faith way any aspect of Feng Shui could be called pseudoscience, that article does fall under the pseudoscience discretionary sanctions. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 03:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*[https://stateimpact.npr.org/oklahoma/2012/07/09/why-the-largest-maker-of-portable-gas-cans-is-going-out-of-business/ News article] |
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*[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/my-gas-can-safe-flna2D11693927 News article] |
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*[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/warning-scientists-say-gas-cans-carry-risk-explosion-flna2D11691903 News article] |
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*[http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20121105/News/211050326 News article] |
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*[https://www.nwcg.gov/sites/default/files/products/pms442.pdf Gov't regulation document] |
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*[https://cpsc.gov/content/consumers-warned-against-storing-gasoline Gov't regulation document] |
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*[https://www.nps.gov/articles/fire-p52-gas-cans.htm Gov't regulation document] |
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*[http://pfcma.com/ "Non-Profit" run by the companies that make these things (haven't actually read through and found specific pages yet)] |
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The last source definitely doesn't establish [[WP:NOTE]] and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion. |
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Ian is a serial harrasser on Wikipedia that pushes his political agenda under the guise of a Wikipedia veteran. |
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I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
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== Regarding MoldyOne == |
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::I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not [[Jerrycan]]s (which is where [[gas can]] currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan). |
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I was in the process of giving links on the Moderation report when it was closed, i would like permission to revert the changes since the links have already been given on said page and would like the 2 people who are accusing me of vandalism to be brought into this issue<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MoldyOne|MoldyOne]] ([[User talk:MoldyOne#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MoldyOne|contribs]]) </small> |
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::There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|MoldyOne}} The Administrators Noticeboard is not for content disputes. If you have something to discuss in support of your changes to the article, use the article's talk page, as I mentioned on your talk page. |
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:::I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think [[fuel container]] is a safe generic term. '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC) |
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:If you are looking to "justice" against the other two editors, [[WP:BATTLEGROUND|that's not how this place works]]. |
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:You do not need my permission to go to [[Talk:List of ArmaLite rifles]] and discuss matters there (in a [[WP:CIVIL|civil]] manner that [[WP:AGF|assumes good faith]] from other parties). |
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:I would advise you not to change "assault rifle" to "semi-automatic rifle" again until you achieve consensus on the article's talk page. Otherwise, you could be considered to be [[WP:EW|edit warring]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 18:36, 4 April 2018 (UTC) |
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*I guess maybe a redirect to [[Bin bag]] would suffice? [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC) |
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I believe that MoldyOne & TintedFate are the same person. They're editing one minute apart and they haven't stepped on ether other toes, not even once. Also, TintedFate hasn't edited anything before today, and they are both using the same name format (two word with caps). I could be wrong, Can you please look into this.--[[User:RAF910|RAF910]] ([[User talk:RAF910|talk]]) 21:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:Further, since you're an admin, could you glance at [[WP:Sockpuppet_investigations/BedrockPerson#Suspected_sockpuppets]]? I don't know he's BedrockPerson (no previous experience with him), but the suspicious timing of the account creation and subsequent actions make me wonder. It's evident the account was created for no purpose other than being disruptive, and evidently by a very wiki-experienced person. [[User:Tarl_N.|<b style="color:green">Tarl N.</b>]] ([[User talk:Tarl N.#top|<span style="color:teal">discuss</span>]]) 23:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::Never mind. GorillaWarfare blocked him as sock of Swetoniusz. So, unrelated, just disruptive. [[User:Tarl_N.|<b style="color:green">Tarl N.</b>]] ([[User talk:Tarl N.#top|<span style="color:teal">discuss</span>]]) |
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== Wikibreak == |
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Since [[User:TintedFate]] is now a confirmed sock puppet of [[User:NecrozmaSpin]], I request that you revert his edits to the [[List of ArmaLite rifles]] and strike his comments on [[Talk:List of ArmaLite rifles]] per [[WP:Deny]]. Also, can you please check to see [[User:MoldyOne]] is also a sock puppet for [[User:NecrozmaSpin]]. Thank you.--[[User:RAF910|RAF910]] ([[User talk:RAF910|talk]]) 15:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC) |
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I should have announced this sooner but it just kinda crept up on me. Between various issues (less prep time at work, trying to affordably diet and exercise better), I've just not had enough energy when I'm home beyond what I need to get ready for the next work day or upcoming week. |
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:1) You don't have to be an admin to strike comments or revert under [[WP:DENY]] or [[WP:EVASION]]. However, given that the edits to be reverted are on a page that you and MoldyOne are still discussing, you're right that it would be a better idea for me to revert. |
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:2) I'm not a [[WP:CU|checkuser]], I can't see registered users' IP addresses. Even then, I'm pretty confident that {{u|GorillaWarfare}} (who spotted the connection between TintedFate and NecrozmaSpin) would have already spotted a connection between MoldyOne and TintedFate if it exists. That she has not blocked MoldyOne makes it highly unlikely that TintedFate and MoldyOne are connected. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:23, 6 April 2018 (UTC) |
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Thank you. I will revert and strike his comments on the talk page [[WP:DENY]] or [[WP:EVASION]]. Can you please check on the page later to see how MoldyOne reacts.--[[User:RAF910|RAF910]] ([[User talk:RAF910|talk]]) 15:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:It's already on my watchlist. I'd recommend only striking TintedFate's comments and leaving a note linking to the evidence that TintedFate was a sockpuppet. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:32, 6 April 2018 (UTC) |
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I've bought some sources to expand articles on Goetic demons, though. I may work some on that without fully coming off of the Wikibreak. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC) |
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== FYI == |
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:Hi Ian - we haven't interacted much, so sorry for coming out of the blue, but I wanted to tell you that when I was in my 'I have an account, but I mostly just read stuff without commenting' stage, your contributions were a real inspiration for me to actually get involved. You were one of the most active editors on some of the pages I was interested in, and I saw your name come up time and again attached to sensible, rational comments. So, yeah - I'm a fan. |
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:Anyone deserves and can self-award a break whenever they want to; I'd suggest that you have definitely earned one if you feel like it, and should take as long as you need/want. If you want to do some article-writing without engaging with admin stuff (or anything else) you're still doing good work - thank you! [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span> <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 23:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC) |
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::I am going to pile on here as another "out of the blue" editor. I don't think we have ever interacted directly at all but you have certainly provided value to me as an editor (and no doubt to Wikipedia as a whole) and that does not go away because you have other things to focus on whether that shift in focus is temporary or permanent. Now go get some exercise! :) [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC) |
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:I'm aware. I had pings across multiple days, and there was no response on the talk page, and only an indirect response elsewhere. You had time to make other replies on the same page, but did not reply to a repeatedly asked direct question. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:32, 6 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:Could you explain why you think Ian's revert is a problem? Ian reverted one of a series of unwanted edits. Perhaps you're warning the wrong person? '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 19:13, 7 April 2018 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't the DS have been gg? [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 19:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Doug Weller}} added for good measure. BTW, can we get a link or something the whole "change paraphilia/transgender to GamerGate" discussion? [[User:EvergreenFir|'''<span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span>''']] [[User talk:EvergreenFir|(talk)]] 19:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::Sorry, on iPad and watcitv. I've no idea as I wasn't watching it at the time. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 20:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:I considered GG but thought that the primary topic might distract ("I never edited in that area!"), but thought that BLP might be more to the point. I don't know if it'd take an act of congress to pull it off, but there are a few overlapping DS areas that would combo nicely enough (like the alternative medicine and pseudoscience ones, or Palestine/Israel and post-1932 US politics) that maybe it'd be worthwhile for the [[:template:alert|DS alert template]] to have the option to say "hey, both of these apply for this reason." [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::he's editing in the area now. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 20:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, I see that the GG template also says "any gender-related controversy." Missed that when I was skimming the template instructions. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:04, 16 April 2018 (UTC) |
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Do you think I could popularize this [[User_talk:Qwertyytrewqqwerty/DisamAssist#As_always,_use_caution_with_a_tool|furry foot award]]? Errm, caution with tools? Naahhh, not possible. [[User:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[User talk:Shenme|talk]]) 19:52, 26 April 2018 (UTC) |
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:If [[WP:TROUT|trouting]] is a thing, I don't see why we can't have a Hamster Halt template. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:05, 26 April 2018 (UTC) |
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I got this notification some time ago: |
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"Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Adam, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:44, 24 April 2018 (UTC)" |
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I have never edited (or even read) the page "Adam" on Wikipedia. What gave you the notion that I made "test edits"? [[Special:Contributions/103.37.195.4|103.37.195.4]] ([[User talk:103.37.195.4|talk]]) 10:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)Abhimanyu |
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:As can be seen [[Special:Contributions/103.37.195.4|here]], your IP address was used to edit the article [[Adam]] shortly before I left the above message. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Hello! Judging by the talk page archives, I see that you have shown a strong interest for the article [[Cleopatra]] in the past. Would you be interested in reviewing it as a Featured Article Candidate? If so, please share your thoughts and critiques at [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cleopatra/archive1]]. It would be most appreciated. Regards, <strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<span style="color: blue;">Pericles of Athens</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<span style="color: #0000CD;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 16:47, 4 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:Not really, sorry. I can only remember commenting to address fringe comments, and adding the article to my watchlist to deal with the occasional disruptive editor. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at [[WT:AFC]]. Stop on by, maybe [[toolforge:randomincategory/Pending_AfC_submissions&server=en.wikipedia.org&namespace=2!118&type=page|review a draft]] on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, [[User talk:Primefac|Primefac]], via [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC) |
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I signed in to wiki after a month and I see a nice long note you left me. I wasn't even surprised because I saw your history in the wiki world. You do know that you have a long history of war editing:o yourself... How dare you accuse someone who made one post. And how protective you are of your entries;) |
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Looks like people like you sign in to wiki and live your life making edits to maintain your entries. I am certainly not one of them as my own history speaks for itself. By the way, look up a famous tennis player Juan Carlos Ferrero and soccer player Bum Kun Cha. Those are my 2 other entries made 9 years ago. Some of my lines are still there!!! I had a different account which I didn't use since then. What I notice is that wiki entries are constantly evolving, except for Waldenses because you own it!!! What kind of agenda do you have about this subject? |
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I do want to thank you for showing me how things are done in wiki world. I certainly don't have enough time to be living my life editing these entries and for me truth is not written by people like you. FCL, war editing? Really? You my friend are the warrior on a tear. |
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== Trying to come back == |
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Good luck and go on with your war editing life. I'll probably sign in next month to see what else is going on. Is once a month participation considered war editing? |
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Every two weeks, when my email login expires and I have to log back in, I get the notification that "I" have too many failed logins and need to reset my password. Even after almost a year of inactivity, this is still the case. To the asshole(s) doing that, you could have made bank on crypto by now, and I'm saying that as someone who thinks all cryptocurrency is a scam. |
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By the way, nice to know some people are very passionate about Waldensians. How did you get into that subject? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pmhong|Pmhong]] ([[User talk:Pmhong#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pmhong|contribs]]) 19:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{ping|Pmhong}} One post? You made not just [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waldensians&diff=prev&oldid=831465920 one] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waldensians&diff=prev&oldid=831470409 two], but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waldensians&diff=prev&oldid=831474581 three reverts]. That's not just "one post," that's [[WP:EW|edit warring]]. If you had actually read any of the policies and guidelines I linked and summarized for you, you'd know that. |
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:Regarding your [[Backhanded compliment]]s - See [[WP:CIVIL]] and [[WP:AGF]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:07, 4 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Thanks to Wikipedia, I got to see alt-right talking points identified as such well before they became a part of mainstream conversation. Offline individuals who I trusted and respected started hinting at these talking points more and more. Pretty much every attempt to show them the source and goal of those ideas only stalled things at best. When politicians aren't stirring up the alt-right, they're defending those who stir them up, or defending those who defend the pandering, or saying we need to cooperate with those who are ultimately defending the alt-right. And the number of users I've seen hounded for saying [[WP:NONAZIS|"we shouldn't allow Nazis on the site because it's antithetical to this site's goals"]] is dismaying. Shame on the shriveled, minuscule, impotent souls whose petty grudges push them to defend fascism just to score points against someone. And if you're upset at my characterization of you as such, you're the one who put the shoe on, Cinderella. |
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Ian, I don't read foolish and hypocritical instructional posts left by people who do editing wars. You need to realize that you have no life other than updating and guarding your wiki posts. I do this on rare occasion and I am actually glad I ran into you and experience editing war in first hand. If I were really doing what you accuse me of, I would still be editing Waldensian article. But I realize that you are on it every day and guarding it with your life. So keep going and I will be back when I'm have some time to spare. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pmhong|Pmhong]] ([[User talk:Pmhong#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pmhong|contribs]]) 18:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{ping|Pmhong}} Do you want to get blocked? Because that's how you get blocked. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 18:20, 5 May 2018 (UTC) |
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On top of that, over the past decade, I've spent half of it on the other side of the world from my hometown. Though this has just slowed the rate at which I was growing tired, it hasn't stopped it. |
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I'm fucking sick of it all. I'd say "Nazis can all go to hell" but that's like telling shit to stink. Wait, no, at least shit has enough sense that it doesn't need to be told to do that. |
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Thanks for redacting. I was going to do it myself after blocking but you beat me to it. I don't stand on ceremony with people like that - it's even worse than trolling.. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 06:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Kudpung}} Not sure that was me (though I'm still getting caffeine so maybe I'm assuming this is about the wrong thing). I went to bed after my last post on 166qq's talk page. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC) |
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I do want to come back. I'm aware that we'll never "go back to normal," that there is not and will never be a "new normal," that normal was always a monsterous lie, and that order is nothing but the local flavor of chaos. That thinking is actually kinda why I got along here as well as I did. |
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Hello I. Did you mean to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk&curid=4599013&diff=840230480&oldid=840227995 sign this close]? I know things are different on the RD than AN and AN/I so I thought I should check with you. Thanks for your time. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]]|[[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 15:28, 8 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:I've seen enough inconsistency in closure that I never know whether to sign or not. Guess I will. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:30, 8 May 2018 (UTC) |
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::Inconsistency is the right word for that talk page :-) I do appreciate your closing that thread. Best regards. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]]|[[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 15:35, 8 May 2018 (UTC) |
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I do enjoy non-contentious admin work. Going through new user names and blocking obvious troll or spam accounts before anyone else can even report them is actually fun. |
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== ChristopherJEHudson == |
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Hello Sir, |
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I have a bunch of new sources for [[Goetia]] related articles as well as sources for the [[Shams al-Ma'arif]] article. |
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My name is Chris Hudson and I would like your thoughts. |
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I'm tired of pretending I prioritize [[WP:5P]] over [[WP:NONAZIS]]. I know enough about the site to know that saying that's going to bite me on the ass and that that that's not going to work well with my other plans to return. Going to be thinking about it but I'm certain there's no outcome I'm going to be happy with. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 09:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC) |
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I am not only new to coding, I'm really not sure what I'm doing exactly (yes, I have knowledge, but not certain how to express properly in this language (code) format). |
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:Hi Ian - I came across your username just now while reading an old thread, and realised I hadn't seen you around in a while. I came here, and read this. All I can say is this: when I was a newb, you were one of the people who inspired me. I saw lots of sensible, level-headed comments and actions from you, and I thought 'Hey, Wikipedia is a little bit of the internet where there are good people running things. Maybe I could get involved here.' Do what's best for you, of course, but I wanted you to know that you made a difference, for me at least. [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span> <span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 23:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC) |
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We've had the pleasure of interacting once previously, was some time ago, and I admittedly made mistakes; thank you for having corrected me. |
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== Your essay == |
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I was looking at making a new page, (or adding information?), to the Grange Manor House which is my ancestral house now known as the Art Gallery of Ontario. |
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Just a quick thanks for penning the [[WP:YESPROMO]] essay. It's a brilliant piece and I have linked to it many times in my talk page messages! Cheers. --[[User:Drm310|Drm310]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:Drm310|talk]]) 00:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC) |
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Myself and Prof. D'Arcy Boulton VII just held multiple celebrations over 2017 as it was our homes bicentennial (1817-2017); I held my wedding there and it was specifically called, "Grange Bicentennial Wedding Celebration"... I had over the past 2 days been attempting to create a page but now find that all the information is gone. |
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==Happy Seventh Adminship Anniversary!== |
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I do confess, I find it funny sometimes that so many of my family, Knights (multiple), Professors (Hist/Quantum/Demography), so many who've actually changed the world are not listed, and then so many others are... my fathers listed on a wikipedia page as a world champion... regardless, |
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Digress,... I was looking to make a page regarding, The "Grange Bicentennial Wedding Celebration", would you be able to lend assistance. |
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I have multiple references both hard and soft copy. What else is needed? |
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If you'd like I'd be more than happy to provide the phone number for the coordinator at the Art Gallery of Ontario and she can confirm that my family donated 100 acres of downtown Toronto, $300 million and the Grange. |
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A good example of some observations I've made on Wikipedia... |
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Sir Douglas Colin Cameron, KCMG, doesn't come up, however Sir Augustus Meredith Nanton does... barely. Massive contributions to society. |
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This is interesting because Professor Theodore (Ted) Duddell Newton, (Newton–Wigner localization), is barely mentioned for quantum physics. |
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Ted Newton married Elspeth (Eppie) Mary Cameron, the descendant of Sir Douglas Colin Cameron, KCMG, & Sir Augustus Meredith Nanton. |
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You have Professor Thomas (Tad) Homer Dixon, but not Sir Thomas Dixon, KNL, KL, or Sir Benjamin Homer Dixon, KNL. |
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There's a small piece on Prince Anatoly Pavlovich Lieven, who married Margot Homer Dixon; my cousin Princess Tamara is the last descendant. |
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This is a small glimpse at only 2 or 3 generations of my family's ancestry sir, there's many more examples, ie. D'Arcy Jonathan Dacre Boulton. |
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I would appreciate a word with you when you have a moment. |
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Christopher Jason Eugene Hudson[[User:ChristopherJEHudson|ChristopherJEHudson]] ([[User talk:ChristopherJEHudson|talk]]) 02:33, 13 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:...Perhaps reading instructions would help. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 03:12, 13 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Ms Sarah Welch == |
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You inquired over it, so I'm responding personally. She has been blocked for socking. Read her user page [[User:Ms Sarah Welch]], it says it clearly there they have been blocked for being a sock. The content was erased in the past along with many sources under reasons like "remove duplicate / repetition / failed verification, add sources some from Navratri: see its edit history for attrib". [[Special:Contributions/61.0.202.171|61.0.202.171]] ([[User talk:61.0.202.171|talk]]) 16:56, 13 May 2018 (UTC) |
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She's been blocked for over a month now. I also removed content from [[Thol. Thirumavalavan]] who is a politician and his book's title itself indicates it is POV by calling to overthrow Hindutva. Now can I restore all the information removed by Ms Sarah Welch who as visible her user page has been blocked for socking and didn't individually give reasons for removal of content? [[Special:Contributions/61.0.202.171|61.0.202.171]] ([[User talk:61.0.202.171|talk]]) 17:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:Ok, my mistake, I didn't realize that she had been blocked. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 16:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC) |
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::Ian.thomson: Responding to an alert! I appealed, the ARBCom reversed the decision. I will take another look at this along with the sources. [[User:Ms Sarah Welch|Ms Sarah Welch]] ([[User talk:Ms Sarah Welch|talk]]) 01:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== weclome to the machine == |
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There's two edits I revdeled that they should not know about unless they wrote them. WMF people notified.-- [[User:Dlohcierekim|<b style="color:black">Dloh<span style="color:red">cier</span><span style="color:gold">ekim</span></b>]] ([[User talk:Dlohcierekim|talk]]) 18:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:Oh yeah, I saw. See [[User_talk:Csworldwide2]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 18:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC) |
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::Also, [[WP:BEANS|not going to spell out the particular tics]] that has my [[Spidey sense|teacher senses]] going "ok, one of y'all did both of y'all's homework here" whenever I read one of their posts, but yeah, I keep having to check the address bar to remember which user I'm talking with. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 18:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Yeah-- [[User:Dlohcierekim|<b style="color:black">Dloh<span style="color:red">cier</span><span style="color:gold">ekim</span></b>]] ([[User talk:Dlohcierekim|talk]]) 18:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Dispute resolution == |
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I filed a Dispute resolution request about the HIV denialism article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:HIV/AIDS_denialism#Contradiction [[Special:Contributions/190.173.150.216|190.173.150.216]] ([[User talk:190.173.150.216|talk]]) 19:07, 21 May 2018 (UTC) Ezequiel |
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== COSMO1994 == |
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I was going to file at [[WP:SPI]] but I see you have blocked {{u|Katemasdon12}} who I was listing as the master. Are you blocking COSMO1994 too? They have reverted me three times and left aggressive [[WP:OWN]] statements [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADrm310&type=revision&diff=842617382&oldid=841718926] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADrm310&type=revision&diff=842618211&oldid=842617752] on my talk page. --[[User:Drm310|Drm310]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:Drm310|talk]]) 15:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Drm310}} It's a [[WP:DUCK]] case and I'm going to block shortly, but an SPI might be able to spot additional accounts from the marketing department (though it feels like every third or fourth request I make to check for sleepers gets shot down with "this isn't pixie dust") or at least serve as useful record keeping if they come back. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:58, 23 May 2018 (UTC) |
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::Sounds good. I've added COSMO1994 as a {{tl|connected contributor}} on the article talk page so it's recorded there too. --[[User:Drm310|Drm310]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:Drm310|talk]]) 16:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Just asking == |
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I saw you were on my talk page. Anyway, I wanted to ask something. How do you add those userboxes? I'm sure I'll figure it out. Also I hope you watch this page because if you don't then you won't be able to respond. --[[User:Tin Can|Tin Can]] ([[User talk:Tin Can|talk]]) 20:08, 23 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Friendly heads up == |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Talk:Julius_Evola Look forward to working this out with you. [[User:VeritasVox|VeritasVox]] ([[User talk:VeritasVox|talk]]) 15:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Seems to me you are the one who should watch being blocked. Others don't have this edge you seem to have, some kinda chip on your shoulder.[[User:Sahansdal|Sahansdal]] ([[User talk:Sahansdal|talk]]) 03:58, 29 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Sahansdal}} I'm not the one spamming material while admitting it goes against mainstream academic consensus, using the talk pages as forums instead of for article improvement. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 12:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi Ian, {{vandal|2A00:23A8:4C18:C000:B9A2:311F:9F17:72A3}} is almost certainly the same person as {{vandal|2A00:23A8:4C18:C000:E95F:1ECD:60E6:BEA2}}. Would a rangeblock be a viable option to prevent further abuse? I'm afraid this might turn into a case of LTA, as the anon is incredibly persistent with their vandalism and personal attacks. Thanks, [[User:Nanophosis|Nanophosis]] ([[User talk:Nanophosis|talk]]) 15:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Nanophosis}} When I plugged both addresses into the [https://tools.wmflabs.org/ip-range-calc/ rangeblock calculator], I got [[Special:Contributions/2a00:23a8:4c18:c000:b9a2:311f:9f17:72a3/65|this range]], which looks like it's just those two and that it's already been blocked by {{u|DoRD}}. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:58, 2 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, it's a (likely) residential broadband connection, which are usually allocated as a /64 range ([[special:contribs/2A00:23A8:4C18:C000::/64]]) so I blocked the whole thing to prevent further abuse. —[[User:DoRD|DoRD]] ([[User talk:DoRD|talk]]) 16:12, 2 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi. Since you previously blocked [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:107.242.117.7 this user] for vandalism, I thought I'd let you know that he is still at it. Thanks. [[User:Nightscream|Nightscream]] ([[User talk:Nightscream|talk]]) 15:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:I had blocked them because I was under the impression that a rather bigoted vandal was currently active. The IP range is shared by a number of cell phone users. Looking over the range, the same user doesn't seem to be active on that range. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 19:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
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==Theistic evolution== |
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You say, "Davids doesn't appear to be a Christian, so (if he was a reliable source) it's rather disingenuous to cite him as the representative for Theistic evolution." Who cited him as a "representative"? Who cares If he’s not a Christian. If he’s studied theistic evolution, then he is aware of the many disagreements and challenges within theistic evolution (the challenges of merging original sin and the Fall with evolution are not trivial). Does the Communism page only accept citations from real communists? Is the Satanist page supported by all satanist authors? Just for you, I’ll put something together with Christian sources. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Freddyfritz|Freddyfritz]] ([[User talk:Freddyfritz#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Freddyfritz|contribs]]) 02:39, 6 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{ping|Freddyfritz}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Creation%E2%80%93evolution_controversy&diff=prev&oldid=844601444 Your original citation of him] makes a claim about adherents of theistic evolution that would only begin to work if he was either a professional scholar of theology (regardless of his religion) or a representative of the theistic evolution perspective (as was the case with your Applegate and Stump citation). Davids is not a professional scholar. Even in the video you linked, he has to mention that maybe there are or will be churches that reconcile the two but that he doesn't know because his work is a [[Straw man]]. Davids is not documenting existing belief systems but trying to force followers of a belief system he doesn't even accept to follow the religion the way he wants, so that he can argue against it from an artificial perspective that's easier to "win." His entire platform is "I don't understand how to reconcile the Bible and science when I ignore everything but a single forced interpretation, so it must be wrong." He should never have been cited to begin with. |
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:And again, the Catholic Church doesn't "struggle" with reconciling the fall with evolution. Are they not Christians? |
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:Don't cite sources to "prove a point" (see [[WP:ADVOCACY]] and [[WP:No original research]]), just read what [[WP:RS|mainstream scholarship]] writes and summarize what it says. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 02:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::[[The BioLogos Foundation]] has [https://biologos.org/search/?&dFR%5Bbible%5D%5B0%5D=The+Fall+%26+Original+Sin plenty of articles about the Fall and Original Sin]. Looking over some of the articles, such as [https://biologos.org/blogs/jim-stump-faith-and-science-seeking-understanding/the-evolution-of-original-sin] and [https://biologos.org/blogs/deborah-haarsma-the-presidents-notebook/why-the-church-needs-multiple-theories-of-original-sin], it becomes pretty apparent that: |
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::*While the idea of Atonement is a foundational belief for Christianity, theories explaining that Atonement post-date and attempt to explain the scriptural idea. |
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::*The idea of original sin was an explanation in response to the idea of Atonement, even if the existence of sin was what necessitated Atonement. This is one of the reasons why original sin doesn't appear in Judaism. |
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::*There were and still are multiple theories of Atonement that have appeared throughout history, and some of them are still taught side-by-side, even from the same pulpit. |
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::*"The" "doctrine" of original sin as is commonly understood is really the ''Augustine's theory to explain'' the idea of original sin. It is not explicitly found in Genesis (or else it would also be a Jewish doctrine, which, again, it isn't). It is not spelled out in the writings of Paul, either. |
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::*There is no adequate reason for why Augustine's particular theory should be held equal to scripture instead of equal to the post-scriptural theories of Atonement. This is not even questioning the idea of original sin, just one attempt to explain it, just as someone who teaches [[Penal substitution]] is not doubting Atonement for not teaching [[Satisfaction theory of atonement]]. |
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::*Theistic evolution has no deadline. It is free to ''evolve''. |
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::Now, "take your time, weigh your options, we don't have to make a decision right now and we don't have to decide on just one thing" really cannot be called a struggle. A struggle implies a victor, but the articles on BioLogos pretty clearly advocate calm resolution. If anything, it suggests that it's those outside of Theistic evolution, especially those incapable of working outside of a single interpretation (like Davids or Ken Ham) are the ones struggling. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 03:34, 6 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== RfCs == |
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Help! What should I do with these? [[talk:Alex Jones#Should the lawsuits regarding Sandy Hook be added?]] [[talk:InfoWars#Should the lawsuits regarding Sandy Hook be added?]] I am a bit over my head. Maybe way over my head... Thanks [[User:Jim1138|Jim1138]] ([[User talk:Jim1138|talk]]) 09:48, 8 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Jim1138}} I'm involved enough in those articles (though not the RfCs) that maybe I shouldn't close it, but it looks there's consensus to include a sentence to me. I don't think I've started an RfC before, so I'm about as lost as you. [[WP:RFCEND]] would indicate that since it's almost unanimous, you don't actually need to close it or anything. |
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:Looking over the closest that anyone gave to actual reasons for opposing inclusion, and the few potential qualms regard phrasing, I'd suggest starting a second round of RfCs that would ask: "Should these Sandy Hook lawsuit be mentioned as a development with regard to his claims regarding school shootings or another entry in the section on lawsuits? Also, should the phrasing presented here be used or are there suggestions for alternatives?" |
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:The closest thing to objections I'm seeing kinda fall under [[WP:NOTNEWS]] (even if that's not what's cited). So it kinda needs to be established whether the material is [[WP:NOTNEWS|"including information on recent developments " (which) "is sometimes appropriate"]] or if it's "breaking news" and/or "routine news reporting." IMO, it'd fall under "recent developments" if it's an extension of the Sandy Hook claims, but may be routine or breaking news if it's part of the lawsuits (unless something else happens besides the lawsuit just being filed)... But I can see there being arguments otherwise even if I can't think of what they might be. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:44, 8 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::Am I the one to do a second round? I thought this would be rather simple. It has gotten much bigger than I was expecting. Can I turn it over to someone else? How do I ask? Thanks for your advice. Cheers [[User:Jim1138|Jim1138]] ([[User talk:Jim1138|talk]]) 10:42, 11 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Jim1138}} I don't see why you'd be required to do the second RfC or why someone else doing the second RfC would be illegitimate or something. |
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:::I'll try to look at doing it, since I didn't comment at all in the first RfC. No promises, I'd have to figure out the instructions in that sweet spot between when the caffeine hits and when other stuff comes up. |
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:::If I don't get to it, maybe ask one of the non-regulars who supported the first RfC. I'd say "any non-regular who commented on the first RfC," but asking someone who opposed it could (understandably) annoy them. A non-regular should be seen as having less of a stake in the article, but a supporter would be more inclined to see it follow through. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:09, 11 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::::Ok, didn't realize we had a bot for all that. Started RfCs on both pages. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:23, 11 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::Thanks for all your suggestions and work here. [[User:Jim1138|Jim1138]] ([[User talk:Jim1138|talk]]) 05:31, 12 June 2018 (UTC) |
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==About The Wikia Answer== |
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Thank you for answering my question! I had two articles and I was about to click that Publish button but I decided to check first to see if it was fine. [[User:TheSmartPersonUS1|TheSmartPersonUS1]] ([[User talk:TheSmartPersonUS1|talk]]) 22:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Concerning A Troll You Recently Blocked... == |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NinjaRobotPirate&diff=prev&oldid=846331197 This edit] suggests that the troll is another sockpuppet of a vandal originally by the username "Arturo"--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 02:37, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:I thought about that, but I didn't immediately spot an "Arturo" on any page histories and I'm winding down for the evening. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 02:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::Fair enough. Might I recommend a hot toddy?--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 05:01, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Would, but trying to cut out non-water drinks where possible. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Krippendorff == |
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@Ian.thomson can you revert so I can copy and paste just to have the content outline I would like to search for in journals, etc? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Slotmachiner|Slotmachiner]] ([[User talk:Slotmachiner#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Slotmachiner|contribs]]) 18:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{ping|Slotmachiner}} I could email you a copy, but that would only hinder you from doing a proper job in writing a legitimate article. |
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:Look for '''independent''' professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about Krippendorff but not affiliated with him, and then [[Abstract (summary)|summarize]] and [[paraphrase]] those. |
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:None of the sources you cited were useful for establishing [[WP:NOTE|notability]] and some of them failed [[WP:RS|our reliable sourcing guidelines]] -- the sources you had in the original draft were useless. |
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:Looking for sources to fit what you wrote would be a waste of time because what you wrote was too promotional. |
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:Again, I can email you a copy if you really want it, but the best case scenario is that the copy will provide no help at all toward what you need to do (find independent sources and summarize those). Are you sure you want that? [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 19:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC) |
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@Ian yes please <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Slotmachiner|Slotmachiner]] ([[User talk:Slotmachiner#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Slotmachiner|contribs]]) 13:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{ping|Slotmachiner}} You don't have an email address attached to your account. You can enable email at [[Special:Preferences]], do not post your email address on site. I'm not restoring the material on site because it violates our policies. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Please help in my article . == |
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thank you for your kind response. On your notice, I had already applied for change of username. and regarding my first article Spandana Palli I would like to confirm you that I am not being paid for this article. I love writing . So I choosen a topic in which I could write then I did my home work and published it. I had tried my best to follow all the guidelines of wikipedia. but unknowingly I made mistake in uploading the image of subject. I am ready to resolve it but don't know how to.. Please help |
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I replied to you on the Strivingsoul SPI. Is it at least ''starting'' to look suspicious? [[User:Fitzcarmalan|Fitzcarmalan]] ([[User talk:Fitzcarmalan|talk]]) 09:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== [[User talk:EdwinCerso]] == |
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Think you might want to revoke their talk. I figured this was a [[WP:CIR]] case, didn't realize it was something this long-term. [[User:Home Lander|Home Lander]] ([[User talk:Home Lander|talk]]) 20:46, 25 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:Done. I only figured it was something long term after checking the previous creators of that talk page, and looking for a user name matching that page title. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, they were pretty persistent in removing the tags. I ''think'' an IP was doing the same earlier, probably the version that {{u|Amorymeltzer}} deleted. [[User:Home Lander|Home Lander]] ([[User talk:Home Lander|talk]]) 20:50, 25 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Algernon Sydney Logan == |
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Ian: Thank you very much for your very clear explanation of the editing policies of Wikipedia and as well providing very clear assistance on how to write and ensure proper sources for an article. However (and I am sorry to go on) it does seem a bit disappointing to me though that a somewhat interesting person such as this poet and writer will apparently never be in an encyclopedia as expansive and informative as Wikipedia due to the fact that there simply is very little personal information about him aside from a great deal of all kinds of information written by his son. That this information does not exist, or at least has not yet come to light, is in some ways understandable because Algernon Sydney Logan lived a quiet life and although he wrote several books none of them sold well at all. Yet just as historians have over time recognized that many of the non-descript or forgotten people of history have, in fact, as important if not 'notable' lives as more well-known people or figures, I think that lesser known and even unknown persons can deserve mention in an Encyclopedia, as well. In any case, Thank You very much for your time and attention and thoughtfulness.[[User:Kevin Plunkett|Kevin Plunkett]] ([[User talk:Kevin Plunkett|talk]]) 02:43, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Kevin Plunkett}} Sorry, but Wikipedia is just a tertiary source that summarize professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources. This standard, by and large, is used to prevent the place from becoming a mixture of Facebook and Craigslist. |
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:Looking a bit for sources, I found [https://books.google.com/books?id=GoIeAQAAMAAJ&dq=Algernon%20Sydney%20Logan&pg=PA399#v=onepage&q=Algernon%20Sydney%20Logan&f=false this small review]. He's also apparently discussed briefly in [https://books.google.com/books?id=D0lnAAAAMAAJ this book]. That isn't quite the in-depth coverage required by [[WP:NOTE]], but it shows that there is potential for academic interest. Maybe you could try to use your research on him as the subject for master's or doctoral thesis somewhere. [http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/aaGuide/AA-MG-247.html Penn State seems to be interested in Logan research]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 03:24, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Ian: Thank you for your assistance and your suggestions once again. Have a very fine day. Kevin Plunkett [[User:Kevin Plunkett|Kevin Plunkett]] ([[User talk:Kevin Plunkett|talk]]) 15:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== How am I doing? == |
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Hi Ian. I saw your response at the [[WP:HELPDESK|help desk]] about my post which was about me obtaining [[WP:AUTOPATROL|autopatrolled]]. Since then, I have written 2 articles: ''[[Dixie Days (1930 film)]]'' and ''[[College Capers]]''. I took on-board your advice whilst writing these two articles. I have came here to ask how I am doing. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 13:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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*P.S: Apologies if I'm seen as a [[WP:HATCOLLECT|hat collecter]], as this is not my intention. Thanks again. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 13:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|In Memoriam A.H.H.}} Autopatrolled is one of the more reasonable hats to want if one really is just trying to write articles. To be honest, I was thinking of making a decision after like four to six more articles. I saw College Capers after you published it, it's good, though the citation regarding that cartoon being public domain is a bit [[WP:OR]]. A source that specifically mentions Van Beuren would be markedly better, or else citing that source in an initial talk page post saying "hey, it's fine to link to this as it's public domain because (original research)." I'll look over the other after lunch. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 16:54, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::As response of your response on ''[[College Capers]]'', I removed the [[WP:OR]] source, reworded the sentence, and added in another source. Thank you for your comments. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 20:07, 27 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== [[PCCooler]] == |
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Hi I requested creation protection in [[WP:RPP]]. Is it ok? I saw you explaining how to write a "successful" [[PCCooler]] to {{u|Blackwongpcc}}. <nowiki>~</nowiki> [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|talk to me]]) 02:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Abelmoschus Esculentus}} Since he's gonna need to go through AfC, there's not really a reason for him to re-create the page. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 02:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::Ok thanks. I think I'll leave it alone. <nowiki>~</nowiki> [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|talk to me]]) 02:44, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Abelmoschus Esculentus}} Oh, I did salt the page, I was just explaining why. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 02:45, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::::Yeah I was confused. You didn't answer my question explicitly ;-) <nowiki>~</nowiki> [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|talk to me]]) 02:46, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== OCB == |
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FYI: [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Kathy from Paddington School]] - they're one in the same. —[[User:DoRD|DoRD]] ([[User talk:DoRD|talk]]) 17:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Again, how am I doing? == |
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Hello Ian. Apologies if I seem as [[WP:HATCOLLECT|overly eager]] to get [[WP:AUTOPATROL|autopatrolled]], I'm just here to see how I'm doing. Since I asked you the first time. I have written two more articles: ''[[I'm Afraid to Go Home in the Dark]]'' and [[Chinatown, My Chinatown (film)|''Chinatown, My Chinatown'' (film)]]. I have added notices on both of their talk pages about them being public domain. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 17:48, 28 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|In Memoriam A.H.H.}} Hey, sorry for the late response. Two issues with [[Hot Dog (1930 film)]]: |
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:*It cites a Google search. It's not spelled out explicitly in WP:RS, but search results themselves are generally not regarded as reliable. Instead, a specific result or results should be cited. [[Google Dictionary]] appears to have gotten its results from the ''Oxford American College Dictionary'' or maybe the ''Collins COBUILD Advanced Learner's English Dictionary''. |
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:*It cites [[TvTropes]], which is [[WP:USERG|user-generated]]. |
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:As it is, I'm only like 95% certain it'd survive AfD. |
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:[[Chinatown, My Chinatown (film)]] only seems to have ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinatown,_My_Chinatown_(film)&oldid=847863473 had]) two sources that provide coverage about the cartoon independent of the subject, "The First Hollywood Sound Shorts" and "The Film Daily." That doesn't leave me 100% certain that it'd survive [[WP:AfD]]. I'd say it'd have a much better chance of surviving than not, but three sources is the point where anyone trying to delete the article has really work. The Atlas Obscura piece is good for context, but since it doesn't mention the cartoon it doesn't support notability. The Library of Congress just kind of establishes that a media document exists (they take pretty much anything that's not explicitly illegal, which is kinda the point). |
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:[[I'm Afraid to Go Home in the Dark]] seems to be fine. I'm assuming that contemporary reviews count as much as current ones. I vaguely recall a couple of instances where those were argued to be something like primary sources on the grounds that they required interpretation, but those cases were before the 20th century from sources that (if Wikipedia had existed then) would be "questionable sources." For these cartoons, contemporary reviews from what would now be reliable sources should be no problem at all. |
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:[[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for your comments, I've removed both unreliable sources in [[Hot Dog (1930 film)]], so how am I standing [[WP:autopatrol|autopatrolled]] wise? Sorry if I'm seen as [[WP:HATCOLLECT|overly eager]], as that is not my intention. Thanks again. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 15:32, 29 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== A well-deserved barnstar for thee! == |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I cannot thank you enough for aiding my voyage towards gaining [[WP:AUTOPATROL|autopatrolled]]. Your feedback and positive feedback have both invaluably helped me in this journey. Have a nice 4th of July! Thank you! [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 20:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Should I comment on the sockpuppet investigation of the user who attacked me? == |
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As you know, the user Oleotusks was attacking me, and you blocked that user. I noticed that there is a sockpuppet investigation going on about this user. I was wondering whether I have anything to say, especially since I noticed a few IPs who also wrote insulting edit summaries attacking me while reverting my actions. I'm new here, so I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to falsely accuse anyone, but I'm feeling suspicious about these attackers - and of course, personal attacks are not welcome in general on Wikipedia. My contributions are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Diamond_Blizzard |
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In some of the articles which don't say "current," the IPs were attacking me. I understand if you can't go through all of them just to find the IPs, obviously. It's just that I may not be able to be on Wikipedia for sometime after this, and I don't want to falsely accuse anyone, so I'm not listing the specific IPs at the moment. A bit of advice about this situation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Diamond Blizzard|Diamond Blizzard]] ([[User talk:Diamond Blizzard|talk]]) 05:03, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{tps|g}} It is not necessary as the filer has provided the necessary evidence. I hope this helps, —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 05:11, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::I did suspect that whoever started the Oleotusks account might have had previous activity here, but I haven't spotted enough of a pattern to draw any conclusions. |
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::I went through [[Special:Contributions/Oleotusks|Oleotusks's contributions]] to look for patterns in the IPs that you reverted. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B069:5E1C:5074:6466:8400:17AD|This IP in North Carolina]] insulted you, but [[Special:Contributions/2406:B400:A2:E3BC:49B:C3B8:1F7F:9256|the IP before that is in Hyderabad]]. However, going through your contributions, I found [[Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B06B:F0A:D0D3:2C9D:B1FB:CCA0|this other IP in NC]], which gives me [[Special:Contributions/2600:1004:b06b:f0a:d0d3:2c9d:b1fb:cca0/46|this range]]. Looking for similarly ranges (2600:1004:), I found [[Special:Contributions/2600:1004:b026:a566:3c4a:a5b9:3b41:c96d|this one]], which expands the range to [[Special:Contributions/2600:1004:b026:a566:3c4a:a5b9:3b41:c96d/41|this]]. They're all Verizon wireless IPs. The disruptive edits in that range are probably Oleotusks's cell phone, as the IPs are active at the same time as the accounts. However, only the three individual IPs I found seem to be Oleotusk, the rest of the edits on that range are certainly not. |
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::It doesn't look content related or like some sort of vendetta. I'm guessing that some idiot decided to try to troll the first Wikipedian he saw fitting whatever category his tiny brain couldn't handle that day. If it was going to continue, we probably would have seen additional puppets by now (but that'd also give us more to work with). {{ping|Diamond Blizzard}} Your continued activity on this site, aside from being appreciated, would be a good way to give him the finger. If there's any more personal attacks, feel free to let admins know. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 17:58, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Yep, Oleotusks was [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Ann HHero|yet another sock of "Ann HHero"]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Mail == |
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Please check your email Thank You. [[User:Thegooduser|<span style="color: teal">'''Thegooduser'''</span>]] [[User talk:Thegooduser|<span style="color: maroon">Let's Chat</span>]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 20:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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You forgot to redact the Revision made by the IP [[User:Thegooduser|<span style="color: teal">'''Thegooduser'''</span>]] [[User talk:Thegooduser|<span style="color: maroon">Let's Chat</span>]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 20:24, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Thegooduser}} Working on that. [[WP:OVERSIGHT]] is more appropriate for that kind of material, but an administrator start the clean up process. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::You can still see the edit summaries[[User:Thegooduser|<span style="color: teal">'''Thegooduser'''</span>]] [[User talk:Thegooduser|<span style="color: maroon">Let's Chat</span>]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 20:27, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:::That's been removed and I've sent an email to Oversight so that even I won't be able to see it soon. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:34, 2 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== You've got mail == |
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{{You've got mail|dashlesssig=[[User:Thegooduser|<span style="color: teal">'''Thegooduser'''</span>]] [[User talk:Thegooduser|<span style="color: maroon">Let's Chat</span>]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 20:24, 2 July 2018 (UTC)}} |
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== Turner Diaries == |
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Short version : the editor is attempting to retroactively fit a text with a particularly modern interpretation in the service of a particular agenda. |
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That agenda, regardless of it's merits, has no place on this page. |
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It attempts to smear a current strand of feminist thought by associating it with the extreme far right, which is having real world consequences including physical violence and a chilling effect on dialogue. |
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I edited the wiki page on the Turner Diaries because a previous edit attempted to conflate gender critical feminism with violent white nationalism. This is a recent trend within certain activist circles that is dangerous as it has lead to physical attacks on women in public spaces. |
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Here's a link on that: |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5607919/Transgender-activist-battered-radical-feminist-Speakers-Corner-brawl.html |
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And another: |
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https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2018/06/24/lesbians-attacked-by-trans-activists-at-san-francisco-dyke-march/ |
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The prior editor (Beyond My Ken) is acting in bad faith, not me. |
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Their edit to the plot summary includes references to gender that do not exist in the text. The terms gender and biological do not appear in the text. |
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The relevant quote from the book espouses exactly the opposite viewpoint that they claim it does, which is likely why that edit included the tag "check me on this". |
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Here is the relevant quote from page 78 of the novel: |
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<ref>https://archive.org/stream/AndrewMacdonaldTheTurnerDiariesPaladinPress/Andrew%20Macdonald%20-%20The%20Turner%20Diaries%20%28%2C%20Paladin%20press%29_djvu.txt</ref> |
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"Consider rape, for example, which has become such an |
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omnipresent pestilence these days. It had already been increasing |
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at a rate of 20 to 25 per cent per year since the early 1970's until |
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last year, when the Supreme Court ruled that all laws making rape |
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a crime are unconstitutional, because they presume a legal |
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difference between the sexes. Rape, the judges ruled, can only be |
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prosecuted under the statutes covering nonsexual assaults. |
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In other words, rape has been reduced to the status of a punch in |
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the nose. In cases where no physical injury can be proved, it is now |
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virtually impossible to obtain a prosecution or even an arrest. The |
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result of this judicial mischief has been that the incidence of rape |
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has zoomed to the point that the legal statisticians have recently |
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estimated that one out of every two American women can expect |
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to be raped at least once in her lifetime. In many of our big cities, |
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of course, the statistics are much worse. |
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The women's-lib groups have greeted this development with |
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dismay. It isn't exactly what they had in mind when they began |
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agitating for "equality" two decades ago." |
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Thanks for your time. |
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[[User:Void138|Void138]] ([[User talk:Void138|talk]]) 01:19, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Void138}} The Daily Mail and Wordpress blogs are not a [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. |
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:That you say {{tq|The prior editor (Beyond My Ken) is acting in bad faith, not me}} shows you didn't read my message to you at all. Since that's the case, I don't see why I should bother responding any further to yours. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 01:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Exactly the response I expected. The daily mail and a wordpress blog might not meet your standards but a *direct quote* from the novel in question *definitely* does. I see you. |
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Go ahead and revert the edit back to the lie like you're planning to. This will be escalated over your head until it's fixed. |
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The era of men dictating to women what they can say is long over. Bye now. [[User:Void138|Void138]] ([[User talk:Void138|talk]]) 01:30, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Void138}} You don't seem to understand that this is an encyclopedia where one summarizes '''''mainstream''''' academic or journalistic sources. [[WP:NOTSOAPBOX|This is not a place for you (or anyone) to crusade for their own views regarding sex and gender]]. [[WP:NOR|We don't use original research]]. Like I said, that you said that Beyond My Ken is acting in bad faith is proof that you did not read my message to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] from other editors. And now you're failing to do that with me. I've had no idea whatever your gender might be, so it's just plain dishonest to imply that that's what the issue is here. If you are not willing to assume good faith from others, then you will not be welcomed into the community. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 01:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Right, go on and explain more about "what I don't understand". Make sure you drizzle all that word salad with an extra helping of privileged condescension. |
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Once again: I provided you a direct quotation from the actual subject of the article that contradicts the edit, and that's the response. |
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Conversation's over. [[User:Void138|Void138]] ([[User talk:Void138|talk]]) 02:00, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:Maybe, just maybe, if you actually read what people wrote and [[WP:AGF|assumed good faith]] from them, you'd have an easier time here. If you think my last response is "[[word salad]]," then you're having trouble reading. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 02:04, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Thinking of writting an [[WP:FL]] soon == |
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Hi Ian. I am writing about the prosperity of me possibly writing an [[WP:FL]] soon. I was wondering on how I should do that. I know that I need to follow the criteria, but I was wondering on ''how'' to do it. How much sources do I need? How long does the list need to be? Those kind of questions. Apologies if I'm seen as overambitious, it's just that I feel that I want to try something new. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 21:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|In Memoriam A.H.H.}} Um... I've never done that. A Featured List should be a much safer project than a Featured Article (or even a Good Article). I recall that I rather annoyed one editor who was trying to turn an article on my watchlist into just a Good Article, because my quibbles over sourcing were enough to make it fail the Good Article assessment (and I wasn't even aiming for that). |
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:Looking at [[Wikipedia:Featured list criteria]], it looks like it's a matter of making sure that it: |
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:*has a good topic |
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:*has a good lede |
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:*covers everything it can for that topic |
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:*has nicely-formatted pictures where possible |
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:*fits the [[WP:MOS|Manual of Style]] |
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:The biggest potential issues I'm imagining (at least they'd be for me) are pictures (finding properly licensed ones especially) and working with the Manual of Style (I'll admit that, aside from citing [[WP:PBUH]] when reverting, I generally let other people handle the MOS). [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 23:15, 3 July 2018 (UTC) |
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==Akai template== |
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Just wanted to say thanks for your help creating a template for Akai professional yesterday . Cheers[[User:Ijustwannabeawinner|Ijustwannabeawinner]] ([[User talk:Ijustwannabeawinner|talk]]) 09:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Creating a page == |
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I've seen the advice you sometimes post on creating a Wikipedia article. It's full of good recommendations, and if new users follow it, we'll have fewer unacceptable articles being submitted. But I wonder if it could be even more effective if is started with something like |
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#) Choose a topic whose [[WP:N|notability]] is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources. |
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After all, most of those who try to create their first article have already gone wrong (by choosing a non-notable subject) before they get to your step 1. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 07:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:Added. I skipped over that step because steps 1 and 2 force them to focus on just the sources that prove notability (and because I've gotten into way too many arguments with new users who want to redefine our standards of notability, reliability, and even independence), but it would still be good for them to check first. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 12:42, 5 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Banned User == |
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Why was this guy banned? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Skyblue100 |
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I've just come across him while looking through the [[European Broadcasting Union]] where his helpful edits were reverted. He added a few broadcasting unions to the "see also" section, which contain some of the broadcasting networks/organisations which are in the EBU, so I can't see a reason why they'd be seen as "unhelpful". |
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I've just had a quick scroll through his contributions and they all look along similar lines. Helpful additions to the "see also" sections for topics related to the articles in question. [[User:Danstarr69|Danstarr69]] ([[User talk:Danstarr69|talk]]) 20:40, 5 July 2018 (UTC) |
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*{{ping|Danstarr69}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=839770611 here] is the original AIV report. They were adding a lot of links that were only vaguely related, like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Madagascar&diff=839761013&oldid=839621964 East Asia] to [[Madagascar]], which [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Madagascar&diff=prev&oldid=819838457 this IP] that was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tardigrade&diff=prev&oldid=819840008&diffmode=source also engaged in vandalism] was also pushing. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 00:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== [[Lucian Gray]] - advice needed == |
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H Ian, Greetings to you. Need advice for the above. The page was created by user Fehifu152 and nominated AfD by me. The the result of the AfD was [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lucian_Gray delete]. I noticed user Fehifu152 create the article and immediately [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lucian_Gray&redirect=no redirect to their user page]. Can this be done as Lucian Gray is not notable and what action should be taken. I have come across many times a page created and immediately redirect to a general article when the subjects are not notable but the users do that for the reason to secure the author creation name when the subject become notable and create by other users. Thanks advance for the advice. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 01:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|CASSIOPEIA}} Deleted. We've got a criteria to delete pages that were already deleted because of a deletion discussion. I also left the user a note and am now watching the redlink. If it is created again (except as a move from a Articles for Creation draft), someone's probably getting into trouble. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 01:34, 6 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:: Hi Ian, Thank you for the advise. One more question, as I not an admin, so I cant delete page. In future, should I see such incident, where/who should I report the incident?[[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 01:39, 6 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|CASSIOPEIA}} If someone re-creates a page that was deleted as a result of an XfD discussion, you should be able to tag the page with a {{Tl|Db-repost}} speedy deletion template (see [[WP:G4]]). If it was deleted because of a speedy deletion template, many admins will not consider G4 applicable (but may cooperate if the previous reason for speedy deletion applies). [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 03:12, 6 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:::: Hi Ian. Ok thank you for the info and advice. Appreciate it. Cheers. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 09:10, 6 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== [[Draft:Sinha Roy]] - need advice == |
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Hi Ian, Sorry to bother you again. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sinha_Roy AfD] [[Draft:Sinha Roy]] yesterday and the author user:Sinha Roy |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sinha_Roy&type=revision&diff=849187230&oldid=849114822&diffmode=source redirect the draft copy to their user page]. I believe the draft page should stay at it is should not be redirect, kindly advise. Thank you. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 06:31, 7 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:The article can wait while it goes through AfD. The draft is independent of the article. In their current state, there's not really much to do but wait. I am somewhat concerned the user might have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]], but they're not quite being [[WP:NOTPROMO|promotional]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 13:01, 7 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Hi Ian, Ok thank you for the reply. Will wait and see how this article would fare in AfD then. Cheers. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 13:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== How's my proposed new name == |
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Hello Ian. I was thinking of renaming my account in November. This is because I tried to rename last year, but was told to wait another year. The name that I would propose is 'Chivalry of Nonsense'. I was wondering if you thought the name is good. Your help will be appreciated. Thank you. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 15:41, 9 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:P.S: I was also wondering if adding 'the' into the name would make be better, like (The Chivalry of Nonsense.) Thanks again. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: red; font-family: palatino;">In Memoriam A.H.H.</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: paltiano;">What, you egg?</span>]]</sup>. 15:41, 9 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|In Memoriam A.H.H.}} That user name does not violate [[WP:UN|our username policy]], with or without the "the" (which will be capitalized because the first letter is automatically capitalized by the software). I don't have the power to change usernames. According to [[meta:Global rename policy]], "Frivolous, repeated, or inappropriate requests will be declined," but I think that's more to stop users from changing their user name every time they get a haircut, so they'll probably be OK with it if you haven't changed your username before and don't plan on doing so ever again. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 17:30, 9 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Prop9 == |
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Do you see any merit in filing an SPI against this user to determine via checkuser whether he is, in fact, the master of the Stepscanto account, or do you think that your 48 hour block is sufficient punishment regardless and that the issue is therefore moot? Thanks,[[User:TheTimesAreAChanging|TheTimesAreAChanging]] ([[User talk:TheTimesAreAChanging|talk]]) 03:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Prop9&oldid=849603074 Nevermind.][[User:TheTimesAreAChanging|TheTimesAreAChanging]] ([[User talk:TheTimesAreAChanging|talk]]) 03:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|TheTimesAreAChanging}} I filed out of the prospect that there's a third party trolling Prop9 and FreeKnowledgeCreator. If I was certain enough to not file, I'd've blocked indefinitely. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 03:39, 10 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== About Article...== |
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Dear Ian,,, |
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thank you very much for your respectful contributions to wiki, am so pleased to say hello you you..Actually, there was a writing to you about a article on the Teahouse,,but there was no feedback from you...so here leaving message again..please help it the article survived well in the Wikipedia.. |
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"hello...thank you very much for the advice,, it is so impressive. Yes,, so there removed for the the word 'world premiere' kind of..and also the figures which the magazine deals are public figures from Asian traditional, Because the contents resources and the figures are unknown in English and the Western cultures, so they don't have many of public resources or reputation and that's why the magazine are making the article for them as like. Please help it the page can be survive...! and that page was not version of translation. Thank you very much for your kindness...awesome!!!! "<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thomashappyday|Thomashappyday]] ([[User talk:Thomashappyday#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thomashappyday|contribs]]) </small> |
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:{{ping|Thomashappyday}} If you're referring to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_796&diff=prev&oldid=849655422 this message from yesterday], you posted in an ''archive''. An archive is where finished materials that are not going to be changed further are put away for storage. |
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:The problem is that the sources in the article are either: |
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:*Not [[WP:RS|reliable]] |
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:*Not independent |
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:*Not about TeRra |
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:It does not matter what the magazine does, or what they write about, or who they pay to write about them. Other news organizations or even academic scholars must notice TeRra and write about them without being paid by TeRra. The [[Chicago Evening Post]] piece you cited was a [[Press release]] written by one of TeRra's staff. [https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/16/arts/a-singer-who-has-made-weird-an-art-form.html This New York Times article] says nothing about TeRra. |
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:If there are no independent reliable sources about a subject, the subject does not get an article. |
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:When you say {{tq|that's why the magazine are making the article for them as like}}, that raises very serious concerns. We have policies on [[WP:PAID|paid editing]], [[WP:COI|conflicts of interest]], and [[WP:NOTPROMO|promotionalism]] that would forbid anyone who works for TeRra from working on any article about TeRra. If we had an article on TeRra, [[WP:OWN|TeRra would have no ownership of it -- it would be Wikipdia's article, not theirs]]. |
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:[[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:54, 11 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== User:Dobrearsov11 == |
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Just to let you know, I've just blocked {{user|Dobrearsov11}} because they returned to editing and refused to communicate or follow any of the conditions we collectively laid out for them. And their edits were highly disruptive and uploading of copyrighted images and claiming them as their own. So I think they're done. [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] [[User talk:Canterbury Tail|<i style="color: Blue;">talk</i>]] 14:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{thumbsup}}. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 16:30, 12 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== ANI issue == |
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Regarding the user you just indef'd from ANI, I had posted a message at the time you were doing that... and my edit was rolled into the close template. |
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Should this IP user be blocked, too? See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=849967988 this].–[[User:CaroleHenson|CaroleHenson]] ([[User talk:CaroleHenson|talk]]) 17:17, 12 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|CaroleHenson}} I assume it's WikiVolunteerBen (IP locates to Germany, user claims to be from Germany). Blocked[[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 17:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Ok, thanks!–[[User:CaroleHenson|CaroleHenson]] ([[User talk:CaroleHenson|talk]]) 17:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Proposal for the Herman page == |
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I posted it here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_S._Herman#Proposed_changes_to_the_article_structure] [[User:Prop9|Prop9]] ([[User talk:Prop9|talk]]) 05:01, 15 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for going about this that way. Like I said, though, I'm not concerned with what the article says, just making sure behavioral policies are being followed. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 05:53, 15 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Request == |
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Hi please remove my confirmed right since I’m already autoconfirmed. Thanks. ~ [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt)|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt)'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt)|talk to me]]) 04:02, 17 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt)}} Done. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 04:03, 17 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== I'm curious == |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AWrestling_Angel&type=revision&diff=851014745&oldid=851013042 You typed these out or you copied from elsewhere?] <nowiki>~</nowiki> [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|talk to me]]) 14:54, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:I have a whole ton of them saved in a txt file on my desktop. I should probably upload them somewhere at some point, I've been told to do so before. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 15:05, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Oic. Maybe I should do it too :) <nowiki>~</nowiki> [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|talk to me]]) 15:17, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Courtesy notification == |
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Regarding your decision that a certain IP editor had exhausted their [[WP:ROPE]] [[User_talk:2602:306:CCE0:8550:D424:64A0:7B5C:A6E5#Blocked|here]], I thought you might want to know that they have registered an account (User:OnlyRealSpike) and have returned to the VPP discussion without much apparent change in attitude or indication that the block has instilled in them an understanding of the need to contribute civilly and non-disruptively. I would not say anything they have said yet crosses the line into blockable offense, even given their being on notice as to the general sanctions and what is required of them in this regard, but the [[WP:IDHT]] clearly remains strong with this one and I'll be genuinely surprised if the other shoe is long in dropping. ''[[User:Snow Rise|<b style="color: #19a0fd;">S</b><b style="color: #66c0fd">n</b><b style="color: #99d5fe;">o</b><b style="color: #b2dffe;">w</b>]] [[User talk:Snow Rise|<sup><b style="color: #d4143a">let's rap</b></sup>]]'' 14:40, 20 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Snow Rise}} he's had a chance to learn and he's not taking it. I've explained how he can get out of this and still contribute in the area he's interested in. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 16:32, 20 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Frankly, I'm impressed with the amount of patience you showed him in the face of some of those increasingly vitriolic comments. It's always encouraging when an admin goes about things in a ''pro forma'' / "give them every last possible opportunity to dig themselves out, even when its manifestly clear they are [[WP:NOTHERE]] and not going to make use of those opportunities" philosophy. This one just clearly has basic and apparently insurmountable CIR problems. But then, the decision to give every initially disruptive editor a chance to pull back from their nose dive is not really about how realistic that possibility is in a given case--it's more about who we are as a community. So props to you for the effort anyway, and for keeping your cool throughout. ''[[User:Snow Rise|<b style="color: #19a0fd;">S</b><b style="color: #66c0fd">n</b><b style="color: #99d5fe;">o</b><b style="color: #b2dffe;">w</b>]] [[User talk:Snow Rise|<sup><b style="color: #d4143a">let's rap</b></sup>]]'' 00:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC) |
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==Protecting my user pages== |
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Hi Ian. Is it possible for you to [[WP:ECP|extended confirm]] protect my user pages? I was wondering if that were possible. This is to prevent other people from unneedingly editing these pages. Your help will be appreciated. Thank you. [[User:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Constantia;">The Duke of Nonsense</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:In Memoriam A.H.H.|<span style="color: black; font-size:1em; font-family: Constantia;">What is necessary for thee?</span>]]</sup>. 18:26, 21 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|The Duke of Nonsense}} I recall that the discussions for the community even approving ECP included some points about mostly saving it for topics where either ArbCom has had to make some sort of ruling or for cases where indefinite semi-protection has been utterly useless at preventing constant vandalism. I get the impression that applying ECP to a user page would probably get me yelled at (unless maybe said user's page was already the target of multiple harassment campaigns that regularly required [[WP:Oversight]] to clean up). |
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:Looking at [[WP:UPROT]], it seems that user pages are now all effectively semi-protected by default and that further protection is only thrown in if there's actual vandalism going on. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 22:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Help == |
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I got your message and understand it but how do you warn users that are vandals. I’m talking about like a page where it gives you it. And also I’ll try and read the edits on the vandal log. [[User:ARMcgrath|ARMcgrath]] ([[User talk:ARMcgrath|talk]]) 23:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|ARMcgrath}} [[Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace]] has a variety of messages for warning users. Check the user's contribution's page ([[Special:Contributions/ARMcgrath|here's yours, for example]]) and click "[[WP:DIFF|(diff)]]" to see what the edit was. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 01:30, 22 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Okay I saved the page onto my watchlist so it’s easier for me to get to Thanks for helping I’ll be a better user on stopping vandals [[User:ARMcgrath|ARMcgrath]] ([[User talk:ARMcgrath|talk]]) 01:32, 22 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Hide edit summary == |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Sandbox&curid=43618504&diff=852023108&oldid=852022856 Emoji spam] <nowiki>~</nowiki> [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="background:#008000; color:white; padding:2px;">'''Abelmoschus Esculentus'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|talk to me]]) 03:56, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Adding paragraph about Off-Broadway show to [[Indiggo]] == |
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Hi, |
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I was active on Wikipedia 8 years ago, primarily working on [[Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri]]. |
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I’m interested in adding a section to the [[Indiggo]] page about a show that appeared Off-Broadway in New York, New York, USA in 2017 and 2018. I intend to use as my source news items and reviews that appears in www.cityguideny.com, www.broadway.com, and www.theatermania.com. |
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Based on my rereading of [[WP:RS]] and finding that these three websites have been used as sources in wikipedia articles, I believe I can write a properly sourced paragraph. |
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== Pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity == |
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In reviewing the revision history for [[Indiggo]], I noticed that you reverted changes by an IP editor (67.245.109.174) that included a paragraph on the show with the comment “rv editing by the group's manager, again,” and that you have reverted changes to [[Indiggo]] in the past. I also found accounts that had been blocked for being sock puppets. |
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Besides the relationship of the IP editor to the group and the violation of [[WP:NPOV]], did you have any other problems I should be aware of before I put further time and effort into adding a section about the group’s show? |
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Thank you for your attention. [[User:Vyeh|Vyeh]] ([[User talk:Vyeh|talk]]) 07:15, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Vyeh}} Those probably are reliable sources, and I'll trust you to write it neutrally. One of the biggest things I use to spot the manager's socks (I suspect sometimes the band members themselves) is how [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indiggo&diff=prev&oldid=618976776 they'll try to twist or censor what happened on America's Got Talent], sometimes citing clearly unreliable sources (such as Wikia) to do so; or [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indiggo&diff=prev&oldid=747998419 promoting relatively new material] mostly citing [[WP:PRIMARY]] sources. Frankly, more good-faith editors like yourself would be a good thing to have there. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 14:36, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Musk == |
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Thank you for your past contributions to the project. <!-- Template:Inactive admin -->— [[User:JJMC89 bot|JJMC89 '''bot''']] 00:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Can you just block the IP? They seem to want to have a discussion about something that is really not up for discussion. We arnt going to allow hypotheticals about non-notable people on talkpages. I think there are older revisions that need to be removed as well, from before I changed the section title to remove the divers name. [[User:Only in death|Only in death does duty end]] ([[User talk:Only in death|talk]]) 16:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Only in death}} Received message after carrying out block. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 16:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Ah cheers. [[User:Only in death|Only in death does duty end]] ([[User talk:Only in death|talk]]) 16:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== NPOV == |
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Hello, there is a discussion about neutral point on view of the RFK Jr talk page and I am wondering what your say on it is. [[User:Logawinner|Logawinner]] ([[User talk:Logawinner|talk]]) 20:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|OMEGAUNIT}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_pride&diff=prev&oldid=853301987 This edit of yours] tries to soften a white supremacist concept and make it more mainstream. If you are truly against hate, then you need to cut that out right now. Arguing does not make you look better, it only makes it harder for us to not conclude that you're yet another white supremacist troll trying to soften public perception of their hateful ideas. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 00:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:What made you seek out this particular editor, who has made only 1 edit in nearly 2 years? [[User:Zaathras|Zaathras]] ([[User talk:Zaathras|talk]]) 20:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Stop pushing your political bias == |
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::They were the editor that got onto be when I was making biased edits on religious articles when I was younger. I figured someone being on the other side of my troublemaking could make a much more informed decision than me that would be more unbiased. They are the one that taught me about NPOV. [[User:Logawinner|Logawinner]] ([[User talk:Logawinner|talk]]) 03:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Imminent suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity == |
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Your despicable use of political bias is abhorrent. You are everything that's become bad about Wikipedia. [[User:Mikereynolds4444|Mikereynolds4444]] ([[User talk:Mikereynolds4444|talk]]) 04:06, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Mikereynolds4444}} [[InfoWars]] is obvious fake news to anyone with even a minimal grasp on reality -- that's why it's [[WP:RS/P#List|listed as a perennially unreliable source for this site]]. If you try to censor or downplay the fake news aspect of InfoWars again, you will be blocked for vandalism. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 04:11, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{tps|g}} {{re|Mikereynolds4444}} Please also avoid [[WP:PA|personal attacks]]. —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 04:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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== User:Ablust == |
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It looks like you placed an indefinite block template on their talkpage, but the block is still set to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=Ablust expire in 72 hours]. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/2601:1C0:4401:24A0:F115:1EE5:2361:5735|2601:1C0:4401:24A0:F115:1EE5:2361:5735]] ([[User talk:2601:1C0:4401:24A0:F115:1EE5:2361:5735|talk]]) 04:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 04:45, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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== Indef block of Nergaal == |
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Greetings Ian. In the spirit of [[WP:ADMINACCT]] I should be grateful if you could provide an explanation for your recent indefinite block of [[User:Nergaal]]. I understand that their behaviour at [[Sarah Jeong]] has been substandard and overly emotional. However it seems to me that a shorter block would have allowed them to calm down, and would have been enough to prevent disruption to the project. It is well-established policy that sanctions are not meant to be punitive. A maximal sanction looks unwarranted, given this editor's otherwise long history of collaborative work. I am particularly puzzled by your [[WP:NOTHERE]] and [[WP:CIR]] rationales in the block log.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=Ian.thomson&page=User%3ANergaal&wpdate=&tagfilter=] — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 11:10, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|JFG}} If the community decides to shorten it, I'm not going to fight it, but while Nergaal may have been here to help in the past, the issue of Sarah Jeong dramatically changed him. He began regularly accusing everyone of bad-faith, especially if they got in his way, leading to the first block. His response to the topic ban was to use a controversial hashtag specifically and only relating to the topic as an edit summary. Their response to the warning about using the hashtag was to: |
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:*create a userpage with that tag |
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:*play dumb as to what being topic banned from any "discussion (in any namespace) on wikipedia" about the topic might possibly mean. |
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:When blocked, their response was to write an essay, using the hashtag as their title and edit summary, announcing their retirement and denouncing the site for not giving him his way on the topic. |
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:If we got such behavior from a new account, no one would blink at the results. Yes, he ''was'' helpful. That stopped. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 16:40, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::I see these incidents as rapidly escalating emotional responses to rapidly escalating sanctions. Not the best outcome, neither for this editor nor for this project. Apparently Nergaal's strongly-expressed feelings of being unduly silenced, or threatened of "cancellation" in the hashtag's analogy, were not taken into account. As a welcoming and diverse community, we can do better than that. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 17:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Oshwah|NeilN|Favonian|SQL|Kleuske|Abecedare|Paul Erik|Drmies}} I'd like to hear opinion from the other admins involved in the escalation of sanctions. What could we do better to mitigate such intense emotional distress temporarily exhibited by a longstanding editor? — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 17:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Hello Ian. It is very common for people to violate their AE topic bans, and (when it is one of mine) I usually go ahead with a time-limited block. But in addition to the issue of topic bans, there is something about this topic area which makes people insane, and an otherwise normal editor might have lost their cool. So I'd encourage any consideration of changing the indef to time-limited. Negotiation with the blocked editor can sometimes be considered though in Nergaal's case I wouldn't hope for any favorable response. On the other hand if a time-limited block were given a chance to run, Nergaal might conceivably change their mind in the future. I'd be opposed to any immediate unblock unless Nergaal made a promise to change their behavior. Thanks, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 17:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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*JFG, while I appreciate your advocacy, I think you're poisoning the well with phrases like "feelings of being unduly silenced", and I think you're suggesting that the editor actually felt like they were "silenced" because they were white--it kind of sounds like gay panic defense. (I don't know whether Nergaal is white or not, it's not my beeswax.) We can't really "mitigate" emotional distress; we're not therapy. As I noted on the talk page, they were doing the same thing on the same article for days on end, with a block in between, and that's disruptive, possibly obsessively so--but again, I'm not that kind of doctor, and we're not therapy. Editors need to know when to step back. Here's the thing: I'm all for editors returning (I think most admins know that, as do my former ArbCom colleagues), but it has to come with words, like an allocution. The last edits by Neergal suggest to me that if indeed they are in some emotional pit (which is sad, since typing words on a website shouldn't lead to that), they are not yet out of it. When they are, and when they are ready to discuss, then we can talk. Please remind them that indefinite is not infinite. Thank you, [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 17:50, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::The "feeling of being unduly silenced" was clearly expressed by Nergaal, perhaps clumsily, in response to a cascade of warnings, TBANs and blocks. It's not up us to evaluate whether such a feeling was due; the damage was done regardless. In such a situation, it's up to us to help an editor calm down, even though indeed "we are not therapy". What irks me is that Nergaal's antics over a controversial article suddenly erased their years of positive contributions as s/he was labeled with [[WP:NOTHERE]] and [[WP:CIR]], which are among the strongest marks of rejection that the Wikipedia community can bestow upon one of its members. I have only seen those applied to drive-by vandals or to particularly obnoxious long-term battlegroundish profiles. Nergaal was neither. I do agree with you that "when they are ready to discuss, then we can talk." I will not remind them of anything because I do not email people and a message on their talk page may not get their attention. I would think that one of the admins could extend a courtesy gesture by telling Nergaal, by email, how and when it would be appropriate to request a block lift. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 18:39, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:::{{tq|Nergaal was neither.}} '''''Was.''''' The Nergaal who was helpful replaced himself with a Nergaal who: |
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:::*had little to no interest in assuming good faith from any member of the community who did not help him achieve his goals on that topic |
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:::*believed that [[WP:POINT]]-y behavior was the most appropriate response to sanctions on that topic |
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:::It's sad but it's his problem, not ours. I did not disable email, so Nergaal can use UTRS or even directly email an administrator if he wishes to discuss things in a calm and mature manner. I wouldn't want apologies or anything like that, just a promise to drop the stick and abide by the topic ban. As it is, I get the feeling that any administrator contacting him now without promising to lift the topic ban is only going to aggravate him further. After a short time, an administrator might only re-open wounds. If, after a long time, he is willing to return, he can email us. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson#top|talk]]) 20:47, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::::Yep, what Ian says, JFG. Nergaal is, as you say, a longtime contributor, so it is pretty much impossible that they wouldn't know how to respond to a block or how to request an unblock, or that indefinite is not infinite. They've placed unblock requests before. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 20:52, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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*{{small|(responding to ping, and after ec)}} I believe [[User:Nergaal]] (knowingly) pretty-much forced Ian's hand with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nergaal&diff=prev&oldid=853819430 this edit] (in context of the recent [[Sarah Jeong]] discussion the "cancel" hashtag is a wink at accusations of [[White genocide conspiracy theory|white genocide]], although whether the hashtag is used conspiratorially, snarkily, ironically etc depends upon the speaker, context and readers' interpretation). However, given the user's past contributions and conduct, I don't think ''indefinite'' means ''forever'' in this instance. And if Negraal wishes to return, they should IMO be unblocked with as little drama as possible, ie no demands for apologies/takebacks on our behalf; no ''repeat'' posting of such manifestos on theirs. |
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:Just for the record, I would object to lifting of the topic-ban from [[Sarah Jeong]] related articles, but I assume no one is proposing that. [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 17:53, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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::It's not the first time we see an editor perform a [[rage quit]] when they feel unduly sanctioned, even if the sanction was perfectly due. That's no big deal, let them vent, unless they threaten somebody or are otherwise being abusive themselves. Nergaal's rant was not abusive, he just explained why he did not feel he should continue contributing to the community, as he perceived being punished for [[wrongthink]]. Those "final words" included a comment stating: {{tq|This took some time to write and I would appreciate if instead of deleting, this section will be copied to my userpage. But I suspect it is more likely that somebody from the thought police will show up and even remove this short rant/essay from my own talkpage.}} Guess what, that's exactly what happened,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nergaal&diff=next&oldid=853819430&diffmode=source] within all of 4 minutes, of course because he had just been banned from using a certain word. The irony! Whether we call it suicide by admin or excess bureaucracy, it does not sound like the optimal outcome to me. Maybe I'm just [[WP:OFWV|old-fashioned]] enough not to beat a dead editor. — [[User:JFG|JFG]] <sup>[[User talk:JFG|talk]]</sup> 18:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Sorry, but I don't share your framing of the events or what "old fashioned" wikipedia values are or should be. [[User:Abecedare|Abecedare]] ([[User talk:Abecedare|talk]]) 18:37, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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*I'm with Abecedare on this one – including an absolute NO to (hypothetically) lifting the topic ban. [[User:Favonian|Favonian]] ([[User talk:Favonian|talk]]) 18:07, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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*My comment can be viewed here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nergaal&diff=853604142&oldid=853588680&diffmode=source], and is mostly a direct quote from policy. I didn't have anything to do with the sanctions (page came up on my watchlist) - so I'm not sure exactly why I'm being pinged here. While I was dissapointed that the editor re-instated that section header name, I had not intended to press the matter further. [[User:SQL|<span style="font-size:7pt;color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="font-size: 5pt;color:#999">Query me!</sup>]] 20:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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*Ultimately the ball is in Nergaal's court. Perhaps someone could reach out to them in email and see if they are prepared to accept the topic ban (that apparently has very little chance of being lifted). I can sympathize with their argument but not the way they presented it and this is not their first trip to the rodeo as their recent blocks testify. There can be no doubt their FA work is outstanding and one could hopr they would resume that if only to give themselves some inner peace.--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] ([[User talk:MONGO|talk]]) 23:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC) |
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To-do: red plastic gas cans
These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.[original research?]
I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them:
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- News article
- News article
- News article
- News article
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- Gov't regulation document
- Gov't regulation document
- "Non-Profit" run by the companies that make these things (haven't actually read through and found specific pages yet)
The last source definitely doesn't establish WP:NOTE and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion.
I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. Acroterion (talk) 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not Jerrycans (which is where gas can currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan).
- There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think fuel container is a safe generic term. Acroterion (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I guess maybe a redirect to Bin bag would suffice? Ian.thomson (talk) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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I should have announced this sooner but it just kinda crept up on me. Between various issues (less prep time at work, trying to affordably diet and exercise better), I've just not had enough energy when I'm home beyond what I need to get ready for the next work day or upcoming week.
I've bought some sources to expand articles on Goetic demons, though. I may work some on that without fully coming off of the Wikibreak. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ian - we haven't interacted much, so sorry for coming out of the blue, but I wanted to tell you that when I was in my 'I have an account, but I mostly just read stuff without commenting' stage, your contributions were a real inspiration for me to actually get involved. You were one of the most active editors on some of the pages I was interested in, and I saw your name come up time and again attached to sensible, rational comments. So, yeah - I'm a fan.
- Anyone deserves and can self-award a break whenever they want to; I'd suggest that you have definitely earned one if you feel like it, and should take as long as you need/want. If you want to do some article-writing without engaging with admin stuff (or anything else) you're still doing good work - thank you! Girth Summit (blether) 23:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I am going to pile on here as another "out of the blue" editor. I don't think we have ever interacted directly at all but you have certainly provided value to me as an editor (and no doubt to Wikipedia as a whole) and that does not go away because you have other things to focus on whether that shift in focus is temporary or permanent. Now go get some exercise! :) S0091 (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
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Every two weeks, when my email login expires and I have to log back in, I get the notification that "I" have too many failed logins and need to reset my password. Even after almost a year of inactivity, this is still the case. To the asshole(s) doing that, you could have made bank on crypto by now, and I'm saying that as someone who thinks all cryptocurrency is a scam.
Thanks to Wikipedia, I got to see alt-right talking points identified as such well before they became a part of mainstream conversation. Offline individuals who I trusted and respected started hinting at these talking points more and more. Pretty much every attempt to show them the source and goal of those ideas only stalled things at best. When politicians aren't stirring up the alt-right, they're defending those who stir them up, or defending those who defend the pandering, or saying we need to cooperate with those who are ultimately defending the alt-right. And the number of users I've seen hounded for saying "we shouldn't allow Nazis on the site because it's antithetical to this site's goals" is dismaying. Shame on the shriveled, minuscule, impotent souls whose petty grudges push them to defend fascism just to score points against someone. And if you're upset at my characterization of you as such, you're the one who put the shoe on, Cinderella.
On top of that, over the past decade, I've spent half of it on the other side of the world from my hometown. Though this has just slowed the rate at which I was growing tired, it hasn't stopped it.
I'm fucking sick of it all. I'd say "Nazis can all go to hell" but that's like telling shit to stink. Wait, no, at least shit has enough sense that it doesn't need to be told to do that.
I do want to come back. I'm aware that we'll never "go back to normal," that there is not and will never be a "new normal," that normal was always a monsterous lie, and that order is nothing but the local flavor of chaos. That thinking is actually kinda why I got along here as well as I did.
I do enjoy non-contentious admin work. Going through new user names and blocking obvious troll or spam accounts before anyone else can even report them is actually fun.
I have a bunch of new sources for Goetia related articles as well as sources for the Shams al-Ma'arif article.
I'm tired of pretending I prioritize WP:5P over WP:NONAZIS. I know enough about the site to know that saying that's going to bite me on the ass and that that that's not going to work well with my other plans to return. Going to be thinking about it but I'm certain there's no outcome I'm going to be happy with. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Ian - I came across your username just now while reading an old thread, and realised I hadn't seen you around in a while. I came here, and read this. All I can say is this: when I was a newb, you were one of the people who inspired me. I saw lots of sensible, level-headed comments and actions from you, and I thought 'Hey, Wikipedia is a little bit of the internet where there are good people running things. Maybe I could get involved here.' Do what's best for you, of course, but I wanted you to know that you made a difference, for me at least. Girth Summit (blether) 23:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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