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::::::*Given that the issue you're referring to was never raised an incident requiring administrative intervention, I fail to see why you're making the point. Two years ago, and issues which were in the public interest at the time. I never asked for a debate by proxy in either debate, I asked for quotations as to why, when the majority of the public have expressed Eurosceptic opinions, politicians continue to insist on remaining a part of it. Given that you seem insistent on doing so, and intent on proving that I'm a rabble rouser, allow me to provide an explanation. I like to ask controversial questions - particularly ones that receive attention from literally tens of millions of people. Given the rise of UKIP within the UK at the time, and the very public debate about the nature of the European Union in the UK at that time, it was an entirely legitimate question. The fact that the reference desk seems to attempt to stifle users who ask difficult questions isn't my fault. Give me what I asked for - quotes - and there wouldn't be a debate. If the answerers on the reference desk insist on making it one, I'm really not sure how that's my fault. Lets face it, if Jayron32 hadn't needlessly erased a legitimate question, that exchange would never have happened --[[User:Mrandrewnohome|Andrew]] 18:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC) |
::::::*Given that the issue you're referring to was never raised an incident requiring administrative intervention, I fail to see why you're making the point. Two years ago, and issues which were in the public interest at the time. I never asked for a debate by proxy in either debate, I asked for quotations as to why, when the majority of the public have expressed Eurosceptic opinions, politicians continue to insist on remaining a part of it. Given that you seem insistent on doing so, and intent on proving that I'm a rabble rouser, allow me to provide an explanation. I like to ask controversial questions - particularly ones that receive attention from literally tens of millions of people. Given the rise of UKIP within the UK at the time, and the very public debate about the nature of the European Union in the UK at that time, it was an entirely legitimate question. The fact that the reference desk seems to attempt to stifle users who ask difficult questions isn't my fault. Give me what I asked for - quotes - and there wouldn't be a debate. If the answerers on the reference desk insist on making it one, I'm really not sure how that's my fault. Lets face it, if Jayron32 hadn't needlessly erased a legitimate question, that exchange would never have happened --[[User:Mrandrewnohome|Andrew]] 18:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::*I have no memory of the above exchange. --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 23:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC) |
::::::::*I have no memory of the above exchange. --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 23:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC) |
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That's two years ago. The bigger concern is [[WP:NOTFORUM]]. The reference desk doesn't exist to engage in arguments. Your actual editing work is fine, that's not problematic but stop it with the controversial questions here. I'm telling you this as a "I may unblock you but don't be surprised if another admin blocks you on your next question" response. -- [[User:Ricky81682|Ricky81682]] ([[User talk:Ricky81682|talk]]) 20:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC) |
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. - You were warned repeatedly to drop it and that no one was interested in engaging in a debate about your actual intent here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:54, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- With all due respect, I was being personally attacked, and have made positive contributions to wikipedia. I was asking a legitimate question. Although I used a source that may have been considered objectionable, I believe I gave an appropriate account of why I acted in the way I did. You seem to be continually failing to acknowledge that andythegrump made several attacks against me by suggesting that I was a racist and by calling me stupid. Why should I be blocked for attempting to defend myself. --Andrew 01:56, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- You were also the first person to do so. I was asked to provide an explanation which I did, and it was a cogent and reasonable one. People continued to antagonise me, so I continued to provide an explanation. I didn't see your message until after I had sent the one you blocked me for. Either way an indefinite block seems to be unduly harsh, clearly I was reacting in the heat of the moment, and a cooling off period would be more reasonable --Andrew 02:28, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Will you agree to drop the entire issue then? If so, I think we can release the block immediately as it's not meant to be a punishment. I understand the heat of the moment can get to you but I don't think anyone cares about debating whether you hold racists beliefs or are merely asking questions like someone who holds racist beliefs anymore as it's not productive here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:56, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Anyone considering this matter should realize that this is a long-term problem, not a one-time event. Consider this exchange from two years ago diff:
- Asking for reasons and quotes as to why political leaders ignore the feelings of their electorate with regards to the EU is a legitimate question and not a debate. Just because it's a contentious issue with differing viewpoints doesn't mean it has to descend into chaos. You might be an unquestioning Europhile but I'm not and neither are a lot of other people --Andrew 2:40 pm, 30 May 2013, Thursday (2 years, 2 months, 18 days ago) (UTC−4)
- I'm a what? --Jayron32 2:46 pm, 30 May 2013, Thursday (2 years, 2 months, 18 days ago) (UTC−4)
- Why else wouldn't you want legitimate questions about the European Union posted on the ref desk. What I asked for where facts, quotes ascribed to national leaders as to why they continue to promote the EU against the wishes of the people who elected them. That isn't a request for debate, it's asking for quotations. If it descended into a debate, that isn't my problem. --Andrew 2:53 pm, 30 May 2013, Thursday (2 years, 2 months, 18 days ago) (UTC−4)
- I'm a what? --Jayron32 2:46 pm, 30 May 2013, Thursday (2 years, 2 months, 18 days ago) (UTC−4)
- Asking for reasons and quotes as to why political leaders ignore the feelings of their electorate with regards to the EU is a legitimate question and not a debate. Just because it's a contentious issue with differing viewpoints doesn't mean it has to descend into chaos. You might be an unquestioning Europhile but I'm not and neither are a lot of other people --Andrew 2:40 pm, 30 May 2013, Thursday (2 years, 2 months, 18 days ago) (UTC−4)
- We have the exact same behavior, the assumption of facts not in evidence in support of a controversial issue, the pretense that what is being looked for is not debate, but "facts" (in truth, a debate by proxy), a refusal to admit the problem, and then a full blown attack on an admin as being one of "them", given the admin refuses to play this editor's game. μηδείς (talk) 18:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Given that the issue you're referring to was never raised an incident requiring administrative intervention, I fail to see why you're making the point. Two years ago, and issues which were in the public interest at the time. I never asked for a debate by proxy in either debate, I asked for quotations as to why, when the majority of the public have expressed Eurosceptic opinions, politicians continue to insist on remaining a part of it. Given that you seem insistent on doing so, and intent on proving that I'm a rabble rouser, allow me to provide an explanation. I like to ask controversial questions - particularly ones that receive attention from literally tens of millions of people. Given the rise of UKIP within the UK at the time, and the very public debate about the nature of the European Union in the UK at that time, it was an entirely legitimate question. The fact that the reference desk seems to attempt to stifle users who ask difficult questions isn't my fault. Give me what I asked for - quotes - and there wouldn't be a debate. If the answerers on the reference desk insist on making it one, I'm really not sure how that's my fault. Lets face it, if Jayron32 hadn't needlessly erased a legitimate question, that exchange would never have happened --Andrew 18:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- I have no memory of the above exchange. --Jayron32 23:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
That's two years ago. The bigger concern is WP:NOTFORUM. The reference desk doesn't exist to engage in arguments. Your actual editing work is fine, that's not problematic but stop it with the controversial questions here. I'm telling you this as a "I may unblock you but don't be surprised if another admin blocks you on your next question" response. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)