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I've seen and dealt with a couple superseded requests, and was wondering if the policy/guide to clerking could possibly be changed to allow clerks to close obviously superseded requests, sort of going along with xeno's comment on [[Wikipedia talk:Changing username/Simple/Assistance]]. It would be more convenient for the 'crats, and not too much trouble for the clerks. Not that typing ''<nowiki>{{Not done}}, superseded ~~~~</nowiki>'' is very hard :p Anyway, if you think it would cause too much trouble, that's fine, I just thought it might be helpful. [[User:Demize.public|<span style="color:#777799">demize</span>]] <small><span style="color:black">([[User Talk:Demize|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Demize.public|c]])</span></small> 15:01, 14 January 2011 (UTC) |
I've seen and dealt with a couple superseded requests, and was wondering if the policy/guide to clerking could possibly be changed to allow clerks to close obviously superseded requests, sort of going along with xeno's comment on [[Wikipedia talk:Changing username/Simple/Assistance]]. It would be more convenient for the 'crats, and not too much trouble for the clerks. Not that typing ''<nowiki>{{Not done}}, superseded ~~~~</nowiki>'' is very hard :p Anyway, if you think it would cause too much trouble, that's fine, I just thought it might be helpful. [[User:Demize.public|<span style="color:#777799">demize</span>]] <small><span style="color:black">([[User Talk:Demize|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Demize.public|c]])</span></small> 15:01, 14 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:That would probably be a question to bring up on the [[WP:BN|bureaucrat's noticeboard]]. I don't see a problem with it in general, though there may be some things to sort out before that kind of thing was implemented. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]]<sup>[[Help:Installing Japanese character sets|?]]</sup> · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<font color="maroon">Join WikiProject Japan</font>]]!</small> 05:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Seeming sock puppetsHello. I know it's too late now, but I noted that three IP addresses have been used by a single person to vandalize pages related to Hello Kitty anime, Onegai My Melody, and Ni Hao, Kai-Lan as they seem to support each others' edits. The IPs in question are: 76.117.98.193 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), 71.58.37.146 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), and 69.242.55.122 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), which are addresses used by the vandal who was using the now blocked 68.44.142.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). They seem like they're used by the same person to me due to the kinds of edits the former three dished out. Just discovered this after reverting edits at the Kai-lan article (first using an anonymous IP myself in my sister's laptop before logging in with my own laptop). Shall I report this to WP:AN/I? Thanks in advance. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 07:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
WP:MOS-JAI've got another proposed change to the guideline here. Your opinion on the matter, rather than me hearing Mujaki's, Jpatokal's, and Jfgslo's incorrect uses of other policies, would be helpful in determining a new consensus on the page.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 21:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC) End of year awards
Wikipedia 10th Anniversary events in JapanIt's shameful that there's no 10th Anniversary event in Tokyo. Is there any way of determining and contacting the most active contributors in greater Tokyo (expats and Japanese) and seeing if there's interest in organizing something? LittleBen (talk) 15:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Apparent problem edits questionWhat does someone do re: edits that appear to be making more issues than they are solving? A user came to my attention last night/early this AM with an apparently automated "cleanup" of a page which wound up in refs backlog. I saw that the user has removed many links to non-free images due to lack of rationales. While I realize all must have a rationale, many editors who work on articles are not the original uploaders of these images, have no idea why they have disappeared and possibly not know what to do about the issue. These images then may wind up as redlink non-free in backlog and be deleted, depending on the experience level of the user who is trying to solve the problem. Would it be possible for some type of change in policy re: these images, such as placing a notice on the article's talk page stating the problem and that the image may be deleted in X number of days unless corrected? This would provide all editors of the article fair notice of the issue and afford them the opportunity to correct the matter. Thanks for listening! We hope (talk) 16:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
This will be my first try at policy--will list it there but might need to bother you again re: fine points on it. :-) Thanks again! We hope (talk) 17:38, 1 January 2011 (UTC) Just a note for future reference. Lists are copyright, which is why we don't copy out entire lists, but use a sample - I think 10 - 20% has been seen as acceptable, while this article copies out the entire list. The link at the bottom of the page doesn't give a source, but a site where any individual can create their own list. It's worth looking closely at what is given as a "reference" before declining a Prod as "has a reference". If you do a search on Ranker for the list you'll come upon the person who made the list a 13 year. SilkTork *YES! 12:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
your assistance requested.since you were involved with the RFC/U in 2009, concerning Docu, I've noticed he is back to not signing his signature properly. look at the edit history of User talk:Docu as he removed a notice i made requesting him to sign properly. LibStar (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
JpatokalJpatokal has seen it fit to revert my removal of your bit on the namidash and replacing that example with the star glyph. Do you have any issue with my changes, particularly concerning the fact that for the past year I have been trying to get some discussion as to whether or not we should allow the closest possible derivative of the namidash into article titles?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:27, 4 January 2011 (UTC) And now that Pmanderson has involved himself, again, I have modified the section once more.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC) And Jpatokal reverted me again, and I have tried to reword my changes to what you added so it is allowed again.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:33, 4 January 2011 (UTC) poke. Prodego talk 07:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Speculative fiction listed at Redirects for discussionAn editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Speculative fiction. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Speculative fiction redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Mhiji 13:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC) Since you're the 'crat who does most of the changes there, just thought I should introduce myself :p You may have seen me do a bit of clerking there, not that there's much to do - you take care of most of it (and good job there!). I do some clerking at CHUU too, there's a bit more work there. Anyway, if you see me doing anything wrong feel free to tell me and be as harsh as you want. dmz 22:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Invitation to join WikiProject United StatesWikipedia talk:WikiProject Science FictionFYI - Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction has posts that appear to have gone unaddressed for a while. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Martintg![]() I recently requested a username change, and now User:Martintg seems to have emailed you some kind of complaint. I'm wondering whether this is somehow related to the rename of my account? Nanobear (talk) 16:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I asked Nihonjoe that since Nanobear's former identity is under an active Arbcom discretionary sanction, Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#Log_of_blocks_and_bans should be updated to reflect Nanobear's new name. Is a formal report to ANI really required for something that really is a mundane procedural matter? --Martin (talk) 20:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Apologies if I made an error when renaming. Is that sanction still open? It seems from the wikilink above to be six months from last January. --Dweller (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Renaming_users_under_sanctions --Dweller (talk) 11:06, 7 January 2011 (UTC) Rules of capitalizationHi Joe. On these "corrections" of yours: WP:MOS tells us (on capitalization):
(My emphasis.) Nothing about what's not in English. One part of WP:MOSJ promises to give guidance on capitalization for Japanese, but actually the section is devoted to the reproduction of text that's already in roman script (though NUttiLY caPITalized) when in Japanese, and therefore is irrelevant here. What I don't see is any instruction that romanized versions of titles not in English should use the "up" style of capitalization in English (an instruction that would lead to indisputably bizarre results if applied to, say, German) or that glosses in English of titles in other languages should do so. As you may have guessed from the number of places that you had to "correct", I was pretty sure of what I was doing. I was sleepy, so I may have made mistakes within it; and also you are free to dislike or disagree with it, but here it is (where "up" and "down" styles -- terms that I believe are used in the Chicago Manual of Style -- mean respectively "capitalize where doing so is not bizarre" [e.g. A Dictionary of Modern History 1789–1945] and "don't capitalize where not doing so is not bizarre" [e.g. A dictionary of modern history 1789–1945]):
This or something like it is what I've done in a fairly large number of articles, adding up to a huge number of titles. (An example: Ihei Kimura.) I don't remember having read criticism of this practice. It's pretty much what's done in "my" (!) "Good Article" Hiroh Kikai, and it was not an issue in either promotion to or reassessment of GA status. Your preference isn't clearly wrong, but I believe that my system is better, because:
In the spirit of "WP:RETAIN" (which is admittedly about US/British spelling and not capitalization), I suggest that the article should stay as it was, and that you should therefore revert your (well-intentioned) edit. -- Hoary (talk) 05:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Vandalism--7 pages in a short period of timeUser page I have reverted/rolled back, etc. 7 pages this IP user has vandalized in his/her short time online here today. Can you help--am trying to keep up with him/her. Thanks! We hope (talk) 01:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks much!! We hope (talk) 01:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Infobox artistOn your addition of an infobox to Toyoko Tokiwa: Tokiwa is a documentary photographer. While the notion that photography can be art has been around for well over a century, the notion that all worthwhile photography is art is rather a new and controversial one. As you're sure to know, infoboxes are far less popular among editors of articles on photographers, or artists, or other "creatives", than they are among editors of articles on footballers and so forth. The string "infobox" does not appear in the Featured article criteria. FAs on photographers that lack infoboxes include: There are cogent arguments for infoboxes for certain kinds of people. (I wouldn't dream of removing them from articles on hurdlers, cheesecake models, and so on.) The arguments against them for people such as photographers are hinted at by your infobox for Ken Domon: Yes, Tokiwa was influenced by Domon, but so were dozens of photographers who have articles (or at least crappy substubs) in en:WP. Yes, Tokiwa can be added; but why Tokiwa in particular? And this "Influenced" field is a well-used way in which bios of living people of (unlike Tokiwa) borderline notability can get themselves linked to and thereby look a bit more impressive. In short, infoboxes here invite simplifications, exaggerations, and mere repetition; arguably they also insult the intelligence of the reader. You're a bureaucrat and an exceptionally vigorous and good editor, with an excellent command of Japanese. I'm sure you have lots of WP stuff on your plate. If you've suddenly developed an interest in Japanese photography, I'm happy to know it. Do please add material. (A huge amount of non-trivia could be added to the article on Domon, for example. There are entire books about him.) If you haven't developed such an interest but anyway notice mistakes (such as my recent and idiotic one, caught by another editor, of transcribing 奥村 as "Okamura"), then do please fix them. But as it is I'm puzzled by the new salience of your conversions of one style to another. -- Hoary (talk) 05:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Let's look at the infobox in Toyoko Tokiwa. It starts by telling the reader that this is Toyoko Tokiwa (about which there was no doubt). And then (photo caption aside):
For Tokiwa, the precise name is a biographical triviality. (It's not so for all Japanese photographers; e.g. Moriyama Daidō actually had work published as by Moriyama Hiromichi, which I presume was the original reading of the characters of his original name.)
Well, yes, but trivially easy for the hurried reader to extract from the article. (I mean, I cannot read Portuguese, but were this article all in Portuguese I'd be able to infer as much.) And also partly trivial (our opinion of her work would be unchanged if we suddenly discovered that no, she was born in Kagawa in 1929).
Yes, but (i) this is shown in the caption to the photo above; and (ii) by itself it will mean nothing to more than a handful of people. (Arguably this title/book is hugely overemphasized in the article -- which of course would be my fault, not yours -- and this should read "the portrayal of working women" or similar.)
Yes, but I've no particular reason to think that she was exceptionally influenced by him in particular. She was influenced by the realism of the time, which was spearheaded by Domon; that's all I know at this point about the relationship between the two. I do know that her photography was directly influenced by her elder brother (whose name I don't know) and by her husband. It's repetition and (well intended) simplification. And this kind of thing isn't merely endemic in bio-infoboxes, it's almost inevitable with them. Infoboxes are useful with, say, cars. You know that for a model of car a number of fields can be provided with data that are usually unambiguous: First revelation to the press; first sale; first sale in the EU; first sale in north America; width; height; length; wheelbase; fuel consumption measured in one way; ditto measured in another; blah blah blah. An infobox is superb for this. It's also good for generic kinds of human: major-league baseballers and so forth. For other kinds of human, it dumbs down at best. Anyway, the infobox, however well intended, adds nothing to Toyoko Tokiwa, which is why I am about to remove it. I do appreciate much of your other work on that article, notably your separation of "references" and "notes". Welcome to the world of Japanese photography (apologies if I didn't notice any earlier contributions by you). Actually I think that Japanese photography is going through a longish period of relative uninterestingness, but excellent work came out just last year (with far less fanfare than what greeted the humdrum work of the hyped), and we can always root around the more distant past and have hope for the future. -- Hoary (talk) 01:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
SyabiWhen I wrote the above, I hadn't been aware of this edit of yours. It's a helpful one; thank you. It is a little problematic, though. For example, while it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Tamura is represented there (and I think I've read that his namesake is), the article on him doesn't say this. The print that was used for the catalogue cover shown in the article was borrowed from Pentax's camera museum, as were all the prints by Tamura that were shown in that exhibition -- or so we are told on p.282 of this (very handsome) catalogue. It's tempting just to say that the museum has holdings of work by a number of Japanese and non-Japanese photographers and also every Japanese photographer whose tedious little article here starts robotically with the statement that he or she is or was "a renowned Japanese photographer". (Remember this?) But I suppose we must be civil about the encyclopedia itself, as well as about each other's stylistic and other preferences. -- Hoary (talk) 08:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
In Comet EgyptApparently there were some BLP concerns with the user's name irrepective of WP:RFCUN consensus. See this AN/I. —Jeremy (v^_^v Hyper Combo K.O.!) 08:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
CHU questionHey. About a day ago, you changed Arvin.limpoco.247 → Kuroi.Namida. That was done at 06:41, 13 January 2011. But now I'm seeing that the original username made some edits a bit after that, at 03:07, January 14, 2011 and 3:09. Are they socking, or is this a false positive? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Question regarding CHUI've seen and dealt with a couple superseded requests, and was wondering if the policy/guide to clerking could possibly be changed to allow clerks to close obviously superseded requests, sort of going along with xeno's comment on Wikipedia talk:Changing username/Simple/Assistance. It would be more convenient for the 'crats, and not too much trouble for the clerks. Not that typing {{Not done}}, superseded ~~~~ is very hard :p Anyway, if you think it would cause too much trouble, that's fine, I just thought it might be helpful. demize (t · c) 15:01, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
InterviewSomeone from Deseret News wants to interview me and a couple other Wikipedians from Utah for an article he's writing about Wikipedia's 10th anniversary. If you're interested, let me know, and I'll email you the number. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 15:05, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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