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:That said, I think that we needn't become overly concerned, as the template has some way to go before it becomes unwieldy; further categorization of the victims (racial, cattle rustlers, labor organizers) will occur as the template evolves. On the other hand, I don't spend too much time in the Template namespace so perhaps I'm mistaken. [[User:Estevezj|— James Estevez]] ([[User talk:Estevezj|talk]]) 03:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC) |
:That said, I think that we needn't become overly concerned, as the template has some way to go before it becomes unwieldy; further categorization of the victims (racial, cattle rustlers, labor organizers) will occur as the template evolves. On the other hand, I don't spend too much time in the Template namespace so perhaps I'm mistaken. [[User:Estevezj|— James Estevez]] ([[User talk:Estevezj|talk]]) 03:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC) |
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::Instead of the woefully inadequate and misleading list of incidents and victims, I am [[WP:BOLD]]ly removing those two sections of the template. I believe it will be impossible to complete such lists and I believe the template will be far more useful and informative without that misleading information included. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 20:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC) |
::Instead of the woefully inadequate and misleading list of incidents and victims, I am [[WP:BOLD]]ly removing those two sections of the template. I believe it will be impossible to complete such lists and I believe the template will be far more useful and informative without that misleading information included. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 20:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC) |
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Instead of using the alphabetical order, shouldn't we re-order them chronologically please? I think this would make more sense.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 16:42, 2 May 2018 (UTC) |
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The challenge of this template is that it can never be inclusive enough, as there have been thousands, but the majority of which would never be counted as notable enough for WP articles. It is estimated that 4,743 lynchings happened in the US between 1882 and 19681; how can this template ever possibly reflect that? As it stands this is a shamefully inadequate tool. • Freechildtalk 21:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- I wondered about this myself. I think that we can set the notability guidelines for victims of crime as a baseline for inclusion here. This should include quality (B-class or better) articles on lynchings that: precipitated political changes (see Emmet Till), are of national or regional importance, are well-documented case-studies, and/or particularly infamous crimes (see Mary Turner). Others (such as Eliza Woods) should probably be folded into existing articles and removed (in Woods' case, Ida Wells-Barnett). It is likely that lists and categories are the most effective tools to document the lion's share of notable victims. Those non-notable victims comprising the vast majority of those 4,743 can only be documented in Wikipedia by descriptive statistics.
- That said, I think that we needn't become overly concerned, as the template has some way to go before it becomes unwieldy; further categorization of the victims (racial, cattle rustlers, labor organizers) will occur as the template evolves. On the other hand, I don't spend too much time in the Template namespace so perhaps I'm mistaken. — James Estevez (talk) 03:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Instead of the woefully inadequate and misleading list of incidents and victims, I am WP:BOLDly removing those two sections of the template. I believe it will be impossible to complete such lists and I believe the template will be far more useful and informative without that misleading information included. Toddst1 (talk) 20:39, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Chronological order?
Instead of using the alphabetical order, shouldn't we re-order them chronologically please? I think this would make more sense.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:42, 2 May 2018 (UTC)