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I was hoping you'd comment on a matter at the [[Removal of Confederate monuments and memorials]] talk page.--MagicatthemovieS |
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:Sadly, I am unable to assist. [[User:C. W. Gilmore|C. W. Gilmore]] ([[User talk:C. W. Gilmore#top|talk]]) 22:26, 31 May 2018 (UTC) |
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July 2018
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hijiri88 - deleting content from my TP: [1] After being asked to 'STAY OFF' and being warned by others not to do similar things on another editor's TP:
"...The community is completely fed up with your disruptive behavior. Consider this a formal warning, and adjust your behavior accordingly. I will give the other editor a very similar warning. Please take my warning seriously. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:05, 4 July 2018 (UTC)"
":Endorsing this warning; there's absolutely no reason for you to edit Dream Focus's user page. Even if they have made a snide remark sometime in between, there's no need for you to re-litigate the issue persistently at ANI; there's enough admins watching this; let it go and let someone else deal with it. This is coming from someone that is usually supportive of you. Alex Shih (talk) 07:44, 4 July 2018 (UTC)" - [2]
- Again, with making Wiki into a WP:BATTLEGROUND with anyone, you think has crossed you, even their TP is your battle ground: [3]
Staying off the TP, includes deleting my edits on my TP - Thank You
" * Hijiri 88 Please stay off my page unless require Thank you.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 06:49, 4 May 2018 (UTC)"
- Deleting entire sections of my TP [4] - violates this request. Thank you for staying off my page unless required.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 04:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- If you don't like what I have collected as evidence then please fill free to delete me from your 'watchlist'. In fact I request that you delete my pages from all your lists. - Thank you. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 04:40, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Everyone brings joy to my life, most when they enter it, and some when they leave it." C. W. Gilmore (talk) 07:53, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Your talk page
If you're going to make an unblock request, I suggest you make it. Complaining about Hijiri88 isn't part of the unblocking process. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Collecting evidence is part of the process and is related directly to my Block; the fact that Hijir88 refuses to stay off my TP is further evidence that all is not as pleasant as it appears with the one that brought the AN/I in the first place and was one of only three that supported a Block. This is to show a pattern of passive-aggressive retaliation against those that Hijir seems to think has crossed them some how. Not complaining, merely gathering 'evidence'. Thank you, NinjaRobotPirate for your understanding of this being 'directly' related to my BLOCK and it will be many months before I'm allowed to request an un-block. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 04:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Some editors, even some administrators on Wikipedia forget why we are here and begin to adopt a punitive model for Wikipedia politics. They support blocks, bans, and enforcement of Arbitration Committee sanctions in order to exact retribution on "bad users" rather than helping to create and improve encyclopedic content. This is regrettable and problematic, not to mention contrary to the reason for blocks, bans, and enforcements as stated in the Wikipedia guidelines and policies linked in the previous sentence." - WP:PUNITIVE
Please stop
Please stop talking about Hijiri88. It is generally considered unfair to ask someone to stay off of your talk page and then to keep talking about them, and especially pinging them.
I am watching this page now and if Hijiri88 posts here (other than things like ANI and AN notices -- he has no choice and must post those) I will bring it up at ANI. I don't think that he will. Now please do your part and stop talking about him.
If you reply to this, don't mention he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned in your reply. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Guy Macon - Deleting entire sections of my TP [11] months after being asked to stay off, is not appropriate, and I only pinged AFTER this, to STOP editing my page again[12]. Someone appears to be twisting the reason I restated my request. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 05:11, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- To your point, I shall not mention, 'he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned', and will not ping them again as long as they 'STAY OFF' my pages so I do not have to repeat my request for a third time. Thank you for your time, Guy Macon. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 05:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Guy Macon, I have already asked 'he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned', to remove me from all their lists including their 'watchlist'; it is my hope that this is done, but per this- [13], it seems unlikely. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 06:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- You're still talking about someone when you use a euphemism or speak about them tangentially. DrKay (talk) 08:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- DrKay - And I am still having my TP edited months after asking it to stop[14], and I'm still being followed after asking that this be stops as well. This WP:Hounding by them needs to end. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Can you demonstrate where your talk page is being edited other than to remove content talking about them? If you have no such evidence I strongly suggest you drop this and don't talk about it ever again. As already mentioned, you should not be talking about someone if you've asked them to stay away. It should be obvious that this is fundamentally unfair and the fact this wasn't obvious to you could perhaps be a sign of why you're indeffed. (Or actually IIRC it was a cban.) And on that point, if you are indeffed you're not supposed to be using your talk page for anything other than requesting unblocks anyway. So a double whammy. This doesn't mean it was okay for Hijiri88 to make that edit, but it remains dumb of you to make a fuss of this rather than just apologise for your clear error and promise to never repeat it. All it's likely to lead to is to you losing talk page access. As for being followed, while it is a concern in general, as long as you are indeffed it's frankly a moot point. If you ever successfully appeal your block or ban, then it's the time to worry about it. Note that even if the editor is going around reverting historic edits of yours, it's still not your concern. It is our concern, but we don't need your help. Nil Einne (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nil Einne, What is fundamentally unfair is to bring an A/N against someone that can not defend themselves. I have only been linking to evidence of similar passive-aggressive activities against other users and have not mentioned anyone directly so if a person in question were to not have me on their 'watchlist' as I requested, there would be no problem at all, thanks. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Are you referring to the fact a thread was opened on AN about you posting inappropriate stuff to your talk page? Nil Einne (talk) 08:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- (EC) BTW, while allowed to make an unblock request, you have very little latitude to use your talk page for "gathering evidence" concerning other editors, especially those you've asked to stay away from your talk page if you are indeffed. I suggest you use some sort of private storage system elsewhere. Also the chance that gathering evidence on alleged wrongdoings of another editor is going to help your unblock request is close to zero. We are interested in how you're going to correct your misbehaviour, not whatever anyone else has done wrong. Frankly even if you had a chance of being unblocked anytime soon before your recent series of edits, you've almost definitely lost that chance by what you've done recently. In fact, your apparent believe that this silliness is somehow "helping to create and improve encyclopedic content" rather than being a utter waste of time is for me enough evidence that you're not ready to edit again. And on that note, this will be my last comment. Nil Einne (talk) 08:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nil Einne - "Some editors, even some administrators on Wikipedia forget why we are here and begin to adopt a punitive model for Wikipedia politics. They support blocks, bans, and enforcement of Arbitration Committee sanctions in order to exact retribution on "bad users" rather than helping to create and improve encyclopedic content. This is regrettable and problematic, not to mention contrary to the reason for blocks, bans, and enforcements as stated in the Wikipedia guidelines and policies linked in the previous sentence." - WP:PUNITIVE -"They support blocks, bans, and enforcement of Arbitration Committee sanctions in order to exact retribution on "bad users" rather than helping to create and improve encyclopedic content." - [15][16][17][18][19][20] C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nil Einne, What is fundamentally unfair is to bring an A/N against someone that can not defend themselves. I have only been linking to evidence of similar passive-aggressive activities against other users and have not mentioned anyone directly so if a person in question were to not have me on their 'watchlist' as I requested, there would be no problem at all, thanks. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Can you demonstrate where your talk page is being edited other than to remove content talking about them? If you have no such evidence I strongly suggest you drop this and don't talk about it ever again. As already mentioned, you should not be talking about someone if you've asked them to stay away. It should be obvious that this is fundamentally unfair and the fact this wasn't obvious to you could perhaps be a sign of why you're indeffed. (Or actually IIRC it was a cban.) And on that point, if you are indeffed you're not supposed to be using your talk page for anything other than requesting unblocks anyway. So a double whammy. This doesn't mean it was okay for Hijiri88 to make that edit, but it remains dumb of you to make a fuss of this rather than just apologise for your clear error and promise to never repeat it. All it's likely to lead to is to you losing talk page access. As for being followed, while it is a concern in general, as long as you are indeffed it's frankly a moot point. If you ever successfully appeal your block or ban, then it's the time to worry about it. Note that even if the editor is going around reverting historic edits of yours, it's still not your concern. It is our concern, but we don't need your help. Nil Einne (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- DrKay - And I am still having my TP edited months after asking it to stop[14], and I'm still being followed after asking that this be stops as well. This WP:Hounding by them needs to end. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- You're still talking about someone when you use a euphemism or speak about them tangentially. DrKay (talk) 08:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- The fact is that I ONLY linked to materials on Wiki and never made made mention of others, if anyone does not like what is on my TP, "PLEASE" take me off all you watch lists and stay away from my page, Thanks. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 08:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- I take that as a yes to my question. I intended to make above my last comment but I had to say this. Frankly the "bring an A/N against someone" silliest thing you've said thus far. You got all up in arms about Hijiri88 editing your talk page then you complain that they used the only reasonable avenue open to them namely open an AN//I thread. If you want an editor to leave you alone, leave them the fuck alone as well. (That means no gathering evidence publicly anywhere etc, and no it doesn't matter if you just post links and they shouldn't notice.) If they continue to bother you, post any evidence to a AN//I thread. If you've left them alone, it's likely to be a slam dunk case. If you can't post evidence because you're indeffed, that means it's none of your business as the only thing the editor can really do to bother you is to keep editing your talk page which will quickly earn them a block probably without needing your involvement. BTW your claims is also clearly wrong, since the norms are that if an editor has something to say to an AN//I thread that concerns them and they are blocked, they are allowed to post on their talk page asking someone to cross post it for them. 99.9% of the time this is when there is a request for a removal of a cban. For this to happen because an editor is posting "shit list" stuff about another editor who they've asked to stay away from their talk page, while blocked; well that takes the cake really. I'll emphasise again what I said below. If you had any chance of being unblocked, I'm sure you have none now. And not sure why you are reposting that punishment thing. I clearly already read it hence why I directly quoted what you said. In case you still don't understand it's clear that you are not going to be able to create or improve encyclopaedic content because you clearly have zero idea how to collaborate here successfully. You're showing this time and time again with your comments. Most of us don't want to punish you, we just want wikipedia to be a place where everyone is free to create and improve encyclopaedic content without having to deal with editors who are unable to work here. At the moment, it's clear to me you're in that list. Whether other editors are in that list or not, is none of your concern as long as you are not. Note that the only reason I am saying this is because I'm hoping you will one day be an editor who is able to create and improve encycoapedic content. It's clearly have a lot to learn, but it's hopefully not an insurmountable task. Nil Einne (talk) 09:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- -"Frankly even if you had a chance of being unblocked anytime soon before your recent series of edits, you've almost definitely lost that chance by what you've done recently." -Nil Einne "Some editors, even some administrators on Wikipedia forget why we are here and begin to adopt a punitive model for Wikipedia politics. They support blocks, bans, and enforcement of Arbitration Committee sanctions in order to exact retribution on "bad users" rather than helping to create and improve encyclopedic content. This is regrettable and problematic, not to mention contrary to the reason for blocks, bans, and enforcements as stated in the Wikipedia guidelines and policies linked in the previous sentence." - WP:PUNITIVE C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:15, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- What I care about is that the record be set in an honest and true set of facts for the way things came about, and I donna care if it will take a decade to appeal my BLOCK, for doing it. Some editors make ALL Wiki their battle-ground, even user's TP and that goes too far. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Now, if everyone will leave me in peace, or delete me from their 'Watchlist', if not - Thank You
I wish to be left in peace and if someone is offended by something I have linked to, then perhaps they should not have been a party to it in the first place, or un-watch my page in the secound. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:46, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Talk page access revoked
I think I was fairly clear with my warning. Please see Wikipedia:User_pages#Ownership_and_editing_of_user_pages, and use Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System if you wish to appeal this decision. Thanks, Alex Shih (talk) 11:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
July 2018
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Email access also revoked for continuing the same behavior via email.[21] --Guy Macon (talk) 13:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)