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{{U|Frietjes}}, I asked for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_military_person/Archive_3 this change] last year as a non-controversial (because it made no actual change to rendered version) way to fix over 400 articles in [[:Category:Infobox military person image param needs updating]]. It appears that project editors feel an infobox should not contain both images, per [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Guidelines for including medals in infobox?| this discussion]] and a prior one I saw on the same page. So {{para|medal}} can either be deprecated, or perhaps displayed only if {{para|image}} has no value. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b>]] 15:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC) |
{{U|Frietjes}}, I asked for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_military_person/Archive_3 this change] last year as a non-controversial (because it made no actual change to rendered version) way to fix over 400 articles in [[:Category:Infobox military person image param needs updating]]. It appears that project editors feel an infobox should not contain both images, per [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Guidelines for including medals in infobox?| this discussion]] and a prior one I saw on the same page. So {{para|medal}} can either be deprecated, or perhaps displayed only if {{para|image}} has no value. [[User:MB|<b style="color:#00FF00">MB</b>]] 15:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC) |
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: {{U|MB}}, okay, I made two edits: (1) added a tracking category [[:Category:Pages using infobox military person with both image and medal]] which will take time to fill up, and (2) modified the logic so only of the two will show, with image taking precedence. if suppressing the medal is controversial, someone can revert the second edit. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 15:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC) |
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Army flag, seal or neither?
There are three different ways that I've seen the "branch" parameter completed for U.S. Army personnel. There are those that include the Army flag before the name (like William F. Dean), those that include the Department of the Army seal (e.g. George Juskalian) and those that include neither (e.g. Powhatan Beaty). Is one of these styles correct? Is one even preferred? All three of the articles which I linked here are WP:Good articles despite the discrepancy. --Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 01:26, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Denniscabrams: MOS:FLAG specifically says that flags should not be used in biography infoboxes. Can't quite get why the GA review didn't pick up on this. Dom from Paris (talk) 07:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Need variation for multi-branch service
The "Template:Infobox military person" has been used in nearly 33,000 pages, so I think we need a closely related infobox to display multiple service branches, especially for different nations as with U.S. versus the Confederacy, in the case of General Robert E. Lee and others. I plan to create related infobox "Template:Infobox military person multi" for optional use when 2 branches or more, and we can further expand that co-template for use in a few hundred pages without risking upset to the current 33,000 pages using the single-branch variation. Because a minimum of 2 branches would be listed, then banner headers would appear inside the infobox, somewhat like multiple political offices. I also think listing battles separately for each service branch would be a great benefit, to reduce confusion. However, the "spouse=" could continue to list all spouses under a single entry regardless of the various nation "allegiance2=" banners. Should the awards be listed separately for each service branch? -Wikid77 (talk) 22:08, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Currently the service of those who changed countries is listed by bullets or a plainlist, for example Stonewall Jackson. I don't see why a separate parameter is necessary. Kges1901 (talk) 01:44, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
branch_label
Would it be possible to add |branch_label=
as a new parameter, same as how we already have |serviceyears_label=
and |battles_label=
? For one it'll allow us to chose either "service" or "branch", which I think might be beneficial for wrapping. Thank you. Jay D'Easy (talk) 15:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Unit parameter: customizable? Alternatively: a "ships" parameter?
Hello, me again. Thanks for the last edit, by the way. It's much appreciated (by me, at least).
I came across George Nares' article and noticed how awkward it looks when all ships he's served on before he took his first command are included; given the fact that the |unit=
parameter is used. On the one hand I think it might be useful to be able to customize the parameter with |unit_label=
(especially for naval personnel), on the other hand I can see how too many customizable labels may lead to misuse (or abuse). In case of the latter, maybe a new parameter would be better afforded? |ships=
perhaps?
Last minute edit: on the last (spooky ghost) hand, maybe do nothing and instead I should remove this parameter from Nares' infobox altogether?
At the very least I hope this request inspires a discussion. Thanks. Jay D. Easy (talk) 13:04, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
{{edit template-protected}}
template. I'd recommend (neutrally) soliciting input to this discussion by linking to it on the talk pages of the relevant projects tagged at the top of this page. Cabayi (talk) 13:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)- Jay D. Easy, given that there is
|branch_label=
,|rank_label=
,|battles_label=
, it seems fairly uncontroversial to add|unit_label=
. so, now added. if this is controversial, someone can revert my edit. Frietjes (talk) 14:17, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
Set width_style to person by default?
Hello. Please forgive my continued suggestions, but this is one of the templates I use most frequently.
There's a parameter a lot of people presumably aren't aware of: |width_style=
; since it's not mentioned on the documentation page. It controls the infobox's width, naturally. By default, it's set to main_box_raw
, which makes the infobox as wide as a military conflict infobox. This by itself is fine because a wider infobox doesn't create as many text wrapping issues as it otherwise may have. On the other hand, I have always felt this infobox's default width looks weird in comparison to other biography/person infoboxes, and frequently apply |width_style=person
when opportunity permits.
I'm not that well versed in template coding, but the code pertaining to the width is found at the top of the template's source code:
| bodystyle = {{WPMILHIST Infobox style|{{#switch:{{{width_style|}}}|narrow|person|auto=main_box_raw_auto_width|wide|military|#default=main_box_raw}}}}
I did a little research beforehand, but did not manage to find any previous discussion on this subject. Forgive my ignorance if the current default width was previously agreed upon. Thank you. Jay D. Easy (talk) 23:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- The documentation is not protected. You are welcome to edit it. What the code above says, as far as I can tell, is that if
|width_style=
is set to "narrow" or "person" or "auto", the width is set to "main_box_raw_auto_width". Otherwise, it is set to "main_box_raw". – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:25, 21 December 2018 (UTC)- That is actually what I was already doing before I canceled my edit and figured I could just as well put in this request. Jay D. Easy (talk) 07:10, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
image/medal
Frietjes, I asked for this change last year as a non-controversial (because it made no actual change to rendered version) way to fix over 400 articles in Category:Infobox military person image param needs updating. It appears that project editors feel an infobox should not contain both images, per this discussion and a prior one I saw on the same page. So |medal=
can either be deprecated, or perhaps displayed only if |image=
has no value. MB 15:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- MB, okay, I made two edits: (1) added a tracking category Category:Pages using infobox military person with both image and medal which will take time to fill up, and (2) modified the logic so only of the two will show, with image taking precedence. if suppressing the medal is controversial, someone can revert the second edit. Frietjes (talk) 15:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)