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Re: Sockpuppet
Hi Dianna, please see this, and his alias here is blocked, yet his main account here is not. Thanks SH 10:53, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, SH> You should take this up with the administrators who handle the sock puppet investigations. It is usual for the master account to get at least a short block. --Dianna (talk) 14:43, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- I've done that, but they don't see him as a problem, however, he seems to have a single minded approach and as here does not seem to understand basic English. On another article Diet in Sikhism, I had a huge issue with him confusing Sikhism with Kabir Panth. I think he's French and his command of English is very poor. Thanks SH 20:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay in replying. I have added Diet in Hinduism and Diet in Sikhism to my watchlist and will try to help monitor the user's activities. --Dianna (talk) 04:55, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, also watch out for WP:NOTRELIABLE and WP:SYNTHESIS. Thanks SH 07:31, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- I've done that, but they don't see him as a problem, however, he seems to have a single minded approach and as here does not seem to understand basic English. On another article Diet in Sikhism, I had a huge issue with him confusing Sikhism with Kabir Panth. I think he's French and his command of English is very poor. Thanks SH 20:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Help again
Hi Diannaa. Do you remember last time i asked you for help but you were busy. Can you help me with something now? Please. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:59, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry but I am going to have to say no. I have really limited time on Wikipedia right now so I will be pursuing my own interests for the time being. --Dianna (talk) 14:33, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. It does not matter. I hope one day you will. Happy editing. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Final newsletter
The final newsletter for the Guild's September Backlog elimination drive is available for editing here. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 13:56, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Political navboxes
Please stop removing party colours from navboxes. WP:Deviations allows colouring schemes that tie into the dominant colour of the work. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 03:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. But when you have time, could you please verify that your colour schemes meet the contrast guidelines at WP:COLOR? I usually test them using this tool. For example, the Template:Alberta Liberal Party, using FFFFFF in the foreground and F08080 in the background, fails to meet even the most basic contrast guidelines and thus will be problematic for users with vision impairments. Ideally we need to meet WCAG 2 AAA Compliant, but WCAG 2 AA Compliant is considered the bare minimum. Please read over the material when you have time, and let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thank you very much for your patience and your implementation of the flatlist into some of the templates. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 03:56, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, the Alberta Liberal Party one I was unsure about, I thought the blue links clashed with the soft red, but I'll have to play around with that tool. 117Avenue (talk) 04:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- The colours for the political parties are coming from a sub-template at {{Alberta Liberal Party/meta/color}} and others. See you around :) --Dianna (talk) 04:06, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, the Alberta Liberal Party one I was unsure about, I thought the blue links clashed with the soft red, but I'll have to play around with that tool. 117Avenue (talk) 04:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
WikiProject Wikify's October Newsletter
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Thanks
I was about to do what you did; in fact we ended up edit conflicting. I suspect some prodding from someone with the bit is more likely to produce results. So, thanks! Lagrange613 (talk) 17:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- I was just visiting your Talk for my GOCE chores and noticed the problem. I will follow up for completion. Sorry the guy was rude to you. Best wishes, --Dianna (talk) 18:27, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- No worries; I've got thicker skin than that. Thanks again for your help, and for the barnstars! Lagrange613 (talk) 22:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
RE:WikiMedia Indonesia & Lontar Project
Hi Diannaa, hope you liked the book! If you bought the English translation, was the language use dry, like the original? Actually, I will be one of the coordinators for the project (just getting ready for the flight to Jakarta). Hope this succeeds! There are still many, many articles on Indonesian authors that are either missing or in bad shape. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- So interesting that you are participating in the project. I wish you success with it and will have a go at copy editing Sitti Nurbaya before your GA review. The language in the English translation is good; the scenic descriptions are quite vivid. The novel is no more difficult than any other from that era. I have not yet finished reading it. --Dianna (talk) 06:56, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting. The original Indonesian is rather awkward, as it uses language that comes across as rather unnatural. The first chapter, with Samsul and Sitti talking outside of school, was full of perfect grammar and whatnot... Of course, Balai Pustaka seems to have required it to be that way Thanks a lot. My English has been getting rustier, so my articles often have small grammatical errors... except for when I write half a sentence while looking for a reference and then forget about it. Fingers crossed! If you are into literature and women's issues, Saman may be your cup of tea, although the language is much more vulgar. If I'm not mistaken, an English translation was released in 2005. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:32, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
GOCE drive newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 backlog elimination drive report
![]() Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We would like to thank all who participated in this drive. Here is the end-of-drive report.
There were 58 editors who signed-up for this drive, of which 42 participated. This is a slight increase from the July 2011 drive participation, where 39 out of 50 people that signed up participated. Thank you to everyone!
During the drive, we reduced the backlog by 146 articles, or by about 4%. Overall we did well, especially considering the exceptionally large number of articles that were tagged during September. Thus far we have reduced the copy edit backlog by 4854 articles, or by about 58%. If we keep up our current rate of copy editing, the backlog should be reduced by 65–70% by the end of this year. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. Barnstars will be handed out this week. Once again, thank you for participating in the Guild's September 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Our next drive will be in November, and we hope to see you there! Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters |
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 04:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
GOCE drive number discrepancy
I found that the numbers on the gold star leaderboard do not match the one beneath it under the "totals" heading. I recounted the numbers manually myself and came up with a third number. Therefore, I've come to two conclusions: 1) I suck at math 2) One of the two numbers is wrong Would you mind double-checking the numbers for me? I know the post is closed, but can an exception be made for correcting the wrong number? Otherwise, it might bug me forever. Thanks Sesamehoneytart 16:05, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- When I checked the addition, I got a total of 66,406 words, which agrees with the number in the info box. Your totals on the Barnstars page have been corrected, and the proper barnstar has been awarded. I sympathise with you; I too have an inner accountant who occasionally demands satisfaction. Thanks again for all your hard work during the copy edit drive. --Dianna (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Flatlist 2
In case you didn't see it, not everyone is happy with flatlist (MediaWiki talk:Common.css#Flatlist css tweak). And, since I know how much you love overcolouring, see the edit history for Template:Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Best regards. Frietjes (talk) 16:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I guess you did see it, I just saw the thread above. Cheers. Frietjes (talk) 16:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did see it. The tweeks in 1.18 have changed the way flatlist displays so that it renders properly on IE9 when a template is initially opened (with IE8 the viewer still needs to switch to compatibility mode). So I am carrying on with converting templates when I have time. For a wild skittle-tastic template, see {{Thanksgiving}}. Other holidays such as {{New Year}} seem to have been assigned random colours. It is thanksgiving in Canada today. Happy thanksgiving, everyone. --Dianna (talk) 17:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Relatively new user, pls help
Hi, I have a friend who heard that I did a few edits on Wikipedia and asked me to help her with a page of a mutual friend. She tried to upload some images that go deleted and I would like to know what I can/should do for them to get them listed. The images are for Lisa Marie Presley page. Do you need the images too? --RomieGalaxy —Preceding undated comment added 22:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC).
- Adding images to Wikipedia is a tricky business as there are a lot of rules. For example, pictures of album covers are only allowed on the article about the album itself (not the artist), and even then must appear only in the info box. Random photos of people that you might find on the internet are typically copyrighted by whoever took the photo. Images of famous people that appear here on Wikipedia are usually shots that people have been fortunate enough to have obtained themselves. Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy for more information about our image use policies. I have tagged both of your album covers for deletion, as they are not allowed on the article for Lisa Marie, and we already have them on the articles about the albums. Please let me know if you have any unanswered questions after reading the image use policy page. --Dianna (talk) 02:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help and I saw you are working on the page. If there is anything I can do to help please let me know. My friend has images that she has the rights to herself, when I went to upload them they were too similar to ones that were already deleted so I am not sure what to do with that. --RomieGalaxy
- If your friend has a wikipedia account it would be better for her to upload her own photos. You would need written permission to upload photos on someone else's behalf. The two album covers you uploaded are copyright material, and are duplicates of items we already have on the site. --Dianna (talk) 14:00, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 10 October 2011
- Opinion essay: The conservatism of Wikimedians
- News and notes: Largest ever donation to WMF, final findings of editor survey released, 'Terms of use' heavily revised
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Apologies
Sorry for being AWOL ... | |
Hi, apologies for my absence during September, I had some RL issues that left me tied up (not literally!) and unable to participate much after the first week of the last drive.
Everything should be ok now and I should be back on again. Chaosdruid (talk) 17:03, 11 October 2011 (UTC) |
That's good news! see you around :) --Dianna (talk) 18:32, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Long overdue barnstars
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The Barnstar of Diligence | |
This Barnstar of Diligence is awarded to Dianna for copy editing 68,734 words during the Guild of Copy Editors September 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks for all your hard work! The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs |
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Leaderboard Award—Number of articles—Second place | |
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dianna for copy editing 72 articles during the WP:GOCE September 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you so much for your contributions to the project. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs |
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Leaderboard Award-5k articles-Fifth place (tied) | |
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dianna for copy editing one 5k article during the WP:GOCE September 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you so much for your contributions to the project. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs |
Sorry for not getting these out to you sooner; real life can be a pain sometimes. ;) The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 19:48, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. --Dianna (talk) 20:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi
Sorry to be a pain but it seems my scripts are still not working correctly for dashes. Could you possibly nip over there and run it through your dashes machine?
Thanks in anticipation :¬)
Hope all is well with you, not had chance to catch up as yet, spent the last 29 hours with computer problems and have not been to sleep yet as I was forced to do a fresh install of Windows and 313 updates so far! Chaosdruid (talk) 21:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Ba-da-bing. All done. I sympathise with you; I hates glitchy computers . --Dianna (talk) 03:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I finally finished 36 hours of updates late this afternoon, but still have a few things to put on. To be fair that installation of windows has lasted through 3 years and three motherboard changes without needing a re-install so it was time to do it I suppose ... it was getting a little slow, took 12 or 13 minutes to boot up lol. Now it takes just 2.5!
- Anyway, I should be able to get more time for Wiki now that RL is leaving me alone for a while. My friend came over from France and surprised me as he was not due till November and the ensuing travelling plus work left me unable to do any drive stuff the last week of September :¬(
- Did everything go ok for you? I noticed an earlier post where you said you were very busy and probably wouldn't have much time for Wiki related stuff (something about only concentrating on your pet projects)? Chaosdruid (talk) 23:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
- PS I'll try and get a few of the current requests done tomorrow as I notice there is a little backlog there.
- I have been focusing on a big project, Adolf Hitler, since I do not have much time to edit right now due to real-life commitments. I have also been working on converting templates to {{flatlist}}, which is a fun and worthwhile project too. Unfortunately I will not have time to look at Hyderabad, India anytime soon so I am going to withdraw from that one. We have to get the November drive page up and running soon so that people can start signing up. Windows sux, we got to get Macs next time, lol. --Dianna (talk) 04:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 17 October 2011
- News and notes: Arabic Wikipedia gets video intros, Smithsonian gifts images, and WikiProject Conservatism scrutinized
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Undid your edit
Please, there's no reason to be doing something like that. If you have issues with another editor, make constructive criticism. What you posted was not constructive at all, and probably would only have the effect of stoking the flames more. SirFozzie (talk) 04:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. --Dianna (talk) 04:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Note
Thanks for the rusty stars. But I'm going to have to work harder if I'm to win the Wide Receiver site's "Vexatious Litigant of the Year" award again. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the note. It was just intended as a wee bit of humour; thank you for accepting it in good spirit. :) Best wishes --Dianna (talk) 13:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- I like humour. And also humor. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:58, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler article
Hello: Thank you for your work on the article. I see you have added a second "Footnote" section under the "Notes" section of the article. I assume you are planning to add the rest of the notes with quotes/additional information to it. We would then have the cites under "Notes" and the footnotes with cites under the separate section without redundancy. BTW- I would appreciate it if you would look at the way the article 1st SS Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler is cited; I believe it needs to be streamlined and cleared up. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 14:57, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, the intent is that any and all explanatory notes that are currently under the "references" section will get moved to the "Notes" section. I just grabbed a few to get the process started, as it was getting late and I had to log off. I will have a look at the Leibstandarte article too, hopefully one day this week :). Regards, --Dianna (talk) 18:21, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the cite work and copy edit as to the LSSAH article which you have had time for thus far. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 17:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note :) Hitler is in not too bad shape, but the copy edit is not finished. LSSAH needs tons of work in several departments, and I will have time to do some work on it on Friday. See you around --Dianna (talk) 18:15, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Re:Jat people
Hi Dianna, some editors have attempted to edit a very poor article Jat people . A good example here where not WP:VERIFIABLE references and section was deleted by me. Note how this was readded [ here]. I think we need an Admin to look at it. Thanks SH 19:21, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have watch-listed the page and will check it out as soon as I have time. User:Qwyrxian is a trusted administrator who is specialising in India-related articles, and they are also watching the page. --Dianna (talk) 14:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oh yes, thanks for that, I forgot User:Qwyrxian was involved. Thanks SH 10:55, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
GOCE requests archiving
Hi
It seems I missed out on the discussions about archiving ... I just noticed the note about archiving was discontinued after posting requests to three GOCE members asking if they did ce's so I can close August. I look a right prat now lol.
Why was it discontinued? Any chance you can point me to the relevant discussions? Chaosdruid (talk) 23:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- OK, found it and re-mentioned my subst template idea from earlier this year. Chaosdruid (talk) 00:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Iaaasi returned as Alexeyev
Banned User:Iaaasi returned as User:Alexeyev — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.58.74 (talk) 11:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I have blocked Alexeyev as a fairly obvious sock. The IP pointing the finger will go the same way (User:Stubes99), if it makes any further edits. Favonian (talk) 13:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Favonian. --Dianna (talk) 14:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
November drive page
Hey, sorry I wasn't able to launch the November drive page, something came up. Thanks for getting it done. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 17:13, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- Not a problem; the car shop had wi-fi :) --Dianna (talk) 18:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 24 October 2011
- From the editors: A call for contributors
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WP:Deviations
See Template talk:Physical oceanography#Colouring. Thank you. Frietjes (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar!
Thanks for the September barn-star, but I'm very busy this November and working hard for my efforts gaining my permissions to be a useful contributor. I'm not going to join the November backlog drive because of the difficult maintenance. However, I did a lot of maintenance work with copy editing on September. I'm doing different work now this season, but we will see if im gonna come back again in January. Regards. --Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 00:21, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- And thanks again --Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 20:49, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for letting me know what's happening. See you around. --Dianna (talk) 01:55, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue LXVII, September 2011
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GOCE drive newsletter
Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors
The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their November 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles (and specifically will be targeting the oldest three months), as we want to copy edit as many of these as possible. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters. |
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 00:58, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Arora page
Hi there, User Sitush has removed a lot of the content on the Arora page. Can you please look into it.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jokesshift (talk • contribs) 02:56, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Happy Halloween!
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Wilhelmina Will has given you some caramel and a candy apple! Caramel and candy-coated apples are fun Halloween treats, and promote WikiLove on Halloween. Hopefully these have made your Halloween (and the proceeding days) much sweeter. Happy Halloween!
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Cheers! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 05:03, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks ! --Dianna (talk) 05:04, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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--The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 14:15, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks --Dianna (talk) 14:28, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Peter Kirillovich Essen
Good work on Peter Kirillovich Essen converting the list to prose. Shouldn't the ranks all be capitalized? Lieutenant, Colonel, etc., rather than lower case? --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:34, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Dthomsen8. WP:Job titles says they are generic nouns when used in this way. So we say "he was promoted to general" but we capitalise it when referring to a specific person: "General MacArthur". --Dianna (talk) 01:40, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
- See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/November 2011. Some ranks of Essen are capitalized, and some are not, and the standard is not observed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
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FAC review request
Hi, I'd like to request that you take a look at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2010 Nobel Peace Prize/archive3. The nomination doesn't seem to be attracting much interest for reasons I cannot fathom. Maybe the prose sucks. Anyway, as I'd ideally like to put it up for TFA soon, I'd appreciate it if you could have a look and perhaps comment as to its meeting FAC or not. Cheers, --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 02:03, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Ohai
Ohai, Diannaa. Remember me? ;)
I'm wondering if you could take a look at User:Hurricanefan25/Cindy and "professionalize" the prose and copyedit it?
Thanks!
HurricaneFan25 | talk 18:34, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- Just wait a moment; you can start doing it at 21:00 UTC, since I'm currently adding a bit of stuff. HurricaneFan25 | talk 20:54, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- Any update? HurricaneFan25 | talk 15:55, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Hurricanefan. Sorry for the delay in replying. You will be better off listing this one on the Requests page, as I am involved in the copy edit drive and will not be able to look at this anytime soon. Sorry. --Dianna (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- Any update? HurricaneFan25 | talk 15:55, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
RevDel request
Hi Dianna. I've got a new one for you: [1]. Thanks. Lagrange613 20:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
- Got it. See you later --Dianna (talk) 20:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Technocracy Incorporated article and other related articles being destroyed by edit team Epipelagic one member there of
The same group of tandem editors that have controlled and now want to misrepresent any and all articles connected with Technocracy issues even to the point of trying to delete the article now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnfos#The_Signpost:_17_October_2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Epipelagic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beagel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lawrencekhoo
Mostly they collude to give bad information. They are economics and energy related people that edit in a clique. They prevent by accusation of sock puppetry etc. new editors from making the articles more neutral. They have called an active organization 'fascist' as a 'given' in the information. The organization denies and calls itself the opposite but this group also says the group had its 'demise' and it is still an active group. Johnphos has put the article up for deletion a couple of times and now is trying to get rid of it by 'redirecting' it into the Technocracy Movement article. These tandem editors control this article.
They want to eliminate an article about one of the major social movements ... Technocracy Incorporated the group that started it. Wikipedia is known for special interest control and buddy editing. Now there is an inability to break into the cult like editing cliques or 'clubs' that control certain articles. An important American group is being tried to be done away with by tandem editors that obviously object for some reason to the content. The past clearly shows the same team of tandem editors here.
Beagle and Johnphos are tandem editors as is Lawrencekhoo and Epipelagic... One of the most significant groups in American history and they want to get rid of the article. Its pathetic and shows the weakness of en. Wikipedia.
Lawrence khoo is a mainstream economist who ax grinds economic articles, Google his name for his economic 'beliefs'
Nazi Party article
After your great ce (and cite) work on both the Adolf Hitler and LSSAH articles, I have another to suggest; the Nazi Party article. Just know Diannaa that if you should choose to accept this latest mission, this thread wont self destruct in five minutes. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- Ha. I am busy with the copy edit drive and will get the LSSAH finished after a while. The Nazi Party beckons, but in a good way ;) --Dianna (talk) 04:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Colours
There is a proposal at Template talk:Designation about improving the appearance and accessibility of the infobox by using coloured borders rather than coloured backgrounds/text. Please comment in the discussion if you have an opinion. --Dianna (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
"User:Trident13/Wales5+"
I had assumed the information on that page had either been complied from Wikipedia or was simply WP:OR. It looked like it might have been an article in preparation. Is it permissable to simply delete an entire user talkpage before they have been warned and/or asked to explain? Many thanks. BridesheadRecarpeted (talk) 19:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Another user discovered that many of Trident 13's subpages were copyright violations, material copied over the years from various websites, as Trident was apparently under the impression that copy vios in user space are ok (they are not). I first encountered the problem on October 6, and left a message on the user's talk page at that time. Another message was left the next day, encouraging the user to help out with the clean-up. Two other administrators posted messages to Trident about this problem: James B Watson and Smalljim. The user's only response has been to archive their talk page. They have stopped editing. I have nearly finished the clean-up; 51 userpages were deleted so far and the remainder have been no-indexed to remove them from Google and other search engines. Thank you for your interest. --Dianna (talk) 19:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Many thanks. That all seems very thorough and fair. I had only stumbled on that page when searchung for something else. Regards. BridesheadRecarpeted (talk) 19:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
GOCE reviewing
Hello. I saw that you are chairing this month's backlog elimination drive reviewing group for the GOCE. AS you may have noticed, I signed up to be one of the reviewers, but I have a question. If a participant, for example, has 8000 words, do I give them both the modest and the working man's barnstar, or just the working man's barnstar? Thank you and happy copy editing! pluma Ø 20:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your interest in helping out with the drive. What the reviewers are supposed to do is check the copy editing of the articles, not hand out the barnstars. The barnstars are handed out by the coordinators at the end of the drive. Thank you for helping out with copy edits and with reviews. --Dianna (talk) 02:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Technocracy Incorporated article among others connected with that subject
No response from you on this issue. A small clique of editors are trying to eliminate an historic organizations entry from Wikipedia information that is still operating http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Technocracy_Incorporated#Propose_merge_to_Technocracy_movement Johnphos has tried for years to eliminate it... attempt after attempt. There are years worth of edits by Johnphos and his altering in a negative way... non neutral and defaming way, the information.
Scroll down and read about Technocracy Incorporated on this U.S.dot gov. website in the history of the 30's area http://www.ssa.gov/history/briefhistory3.html
No new editors that are neutral are permitted to edit the article because of this group below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lawrencekhoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnfos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Beagel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Epipelagic
They think or say everyone is a sock. Those editors edit economics and energy articles primarily and seems to be at issue with ideas related to Technocracy ideas as in wanting to remove them from en. Wikipedia. Is there a way to bring this to the attention of a bunch of Admin's to prevent this group from getting rid of the article?
This was the fastest growing social movement in the U.S. and Canada for a time, and its still around now. Is Wikipedia going to allow it to just be done away with by people that do not like the concept... accuse the article of being commercial or say that it is not important enough for its own article? 175.100.40.61 (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your posts. As you have probably gathered by now, I do not have the time or interest to get involved in this affair, so sorry. --Dianna (talk) 06:11, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
A tool for you!
Hi Diannaa! I see that you are an copyeditor, and thought that you might appreciate some help with finding and eliminating multiple links (or wikification) from the article on which you are working.
I case you're not aware, all you need to do is install the following script:
importScript('User:Ucucha/duplinks.js');
onto Special:MyPage/skin.js, and you'll find a clickable link called "Highlight duplicate links" in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). It can be found both in normal view mode and edit mode. Press on it, and away you go! Have fun! --Sp33dyphil © • © 09:26, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Phil. I did not know about this script. What a time save it will be. Ucucha wrote the script for Harvard references at User:Ucucha/HarvErrors, too, l which is a super cool tool for working with Harvard references. Thanks again --Dianna (talk) 15:25, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
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Hyphens in compound modifiers
Please note WP:HYPHEN, sub-subsection 3, point 4: "A hyphen is not used after a standard -ly adverb (a newly available home, a wholly owned subsidiary) unless part of a larger compound (a slowly-but-surely strategy)." Cheers! Chris the speller yack 14:24, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. This applies to adverbial modifiers ending with "-ly", because the reader already assumes that another modifying word is coming next (Chicago 7.82). Thank you for the tip ... Life is too complicated!--Dianna (talk) 15:16, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
October Wikification drive
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Edit War at Telangana movement
Diannaa, We have content dispute in Telangana movement article. Even though we tried to disucss at Talk:Telangana_movement#Fear_of_Maoism we could not agree on it. Can you please come see and help resolve our conflict. May be 3rd person and more nuetral person can see this in better light and advise. Thanks. Ramcrk (talk) 14:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry but I do not have time to help directly right now. --Dianna (talk) 04:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Flatlists & Navboxes
I see that you've been converting a number of navboxes to use {{flatlist}}. There's now a slightly better way to do it. You can now use the |listclass=hlist
against the navbox. I updated one of your recent conversions, see {{Allahabad division topics}} for an example. -- WOSlinker (talk) 19:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, WOSlinker. Thank you very much for the information. I will start implementing the new technique right away. --Dianna (talk) 04:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
- Actually I am going to wait a while as this new version seems problematic for IE users whilst in Compatibility Mode. --Dianna (talk) 22:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
- I saw your note in the flatlist discussion about changing the compatibility mode. I tried that but the campaignbox in question displayed as a single row (very wide) when in "show" mode whether wikipedia.org was included or excluded from the compatibility view settings. I exited the browser to make sure the change was implemented. This is really causing havoc when I view the articles that are affected. BTW: I am using IE8. Probably it's time to upgrade to IE9... Djmaschek (talk) 04:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Actually I am going to wait a while as this new version seems problematic for IE users whilst in Compatibility Mode. --Dianna (talk) 22:29, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't behave any differently in IE9; in IE 9 on my Toshiba laptop the campaign boxes are coming out too wide when in compatibility mode. There should be a button on your browser bar to switch in and out of compatibility mode. Can you switch to Firefox? way better. Switch to Firefox, and then come back and have another look at my user page and talk page. Quelle différence! --Dianna (talk) 04:24, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
SME needed for editing "History of Socialist Left Party (Norway)"
Diannaa: FYI, for the November backlog effort, I took a shot today at editing the above-named entry. I came up with what I hope is a strong opening -- but I am not nearly subject matter expert (SME) enough to judge what of the material in the majority of the article is accurate to merit re-write and editing. This article needs a SME.
I speak with some experience, having written a number of entries for Wikipedia, one of which actually received a accolade. Also, I am expert enough as professional writer and editor to know when a SME is needed.
Aboudaqn (talk) 21:09, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Than k you for trying, Aboudaqn. I see you have tagged the article appropriately so hopefully someone will come along to work on the article. --Dianna (talk) 04:37, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Trouble in paradise
Hi, Diannaa...I wonder if you can help with a problem I'm having with the prose-size script:
importScript('User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js'); //User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js
I used to be able to get a word count for article sections by clicking on "Page size" in edit-preview mode, but now that doesn't work (it still works, though, for whole articles). At first I thought the culprit was a duplicate-links tool I recently installed, but that doesn't seem to be the case; I removed that script, plus traffic-history and minor-edit-default scripts and bypassed the cache but still no joy. I accessed my Javascript error console pretty much by accident (i.e. clicking on a link whose location I've forgotten), and there are many entries for the prose-size script. This happens in both Firefox and Chrome, so I don't think it's a browser thing. While I can work around it by copy/pasting into Word, I sure miss the convenience. Does it still work on sections for you, and have you heard of a similar problem from anyone else? Thanks for your help. All the best,--Miniapolis (talk) 15:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- I just tested it and I am not getting the ability to do a word count on a section either (I had not noticed the problem as I normally do not do section editing). Maybe something happened with the recent changes to the mediawiki software. There is already a query on the talk page of the author of the script (User:Dr pda). --Dianna (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the validation; I was starting to doubt my own (shaky) sanity :-). Maybe you're right about the software change affecting how the script runs; in the meantime, I'll copy/paste to get section totals (and most articles require a full copyedit anyway). Regards,--Miniapolis (talk) 21:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- If there was a change, it was a while ago as I have never been able to do section sizes. Maybe it is a browser related issue (I use Firefox) to do with Javascript? Since January last year I have had to copy sections, or partial article edits, to a blank wikipage (usually in my sandbox) or Microsoft Word to do the word counts on partials and sections. Chaosdruid (talk) 09:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the validation; I was starting to doubt my own (shaky) sanity :-). Maybe you're right about the software change affecting how the script runs; in the meantime, I'll copy/paste to get section totals (and most articles require a full copyedit anyway). Regards,--Miniapolis (talk) 21:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
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Catchup
Hi
Sorry I haven't been around: windows, flu, windows, battlefield 3, chest infection, flu, will it ever end lol!
I did put aside a whole week for Battlefield 3 when it came out, unfortunately I feel like I am a little too old for those games now lol; my reactions aren't what they used to be! Anyway, I got some flu bug again but seem to be over the worst so am trying to get back up-to-date (including signing up for the drive) and will try and attack some of the requests backlog over the next three or four days until I go back to work next week.
Hope you are well, any exciting stuff happened recently? Chaosdruid (talk) 07:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Chaosdruid. I have been working on templates, a task surprisingly riddled with teh dramas, and we are having a modestly successful copy edit drive. Got to go, as I have to work tomorrow. See you soon --Dianna (talk) 07:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello Diannaa!
I replied on WP:RFP/R and showed some proof. Sada Abe (talk) 05:00, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I replied again. Sada Abe (talk) 05:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I told another admin who I am, he can tell you I am experienced and good-faithed, is that good enough? I understand you do not like my username, its a bit weird. I made thousands of edits with IGLOO and AWB already, and have plenty of anti-vandalism barnstars. Sada Abe (talk) 06:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Under what account? Drmies (talk) 15:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Why do you need to know? You can ask User:OlEnglish (he knows who I am) if I have enough experience and if I am good-faithed; he can confirm it. Sada Abe (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- That's not how it works. Drmies (talk) 21:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Why do you need to know? You can ask User:OlEnglish (he knows who I am) if I have enough experience and if I am good-faithed; he can confirm it. Sada Abe (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Under what account? Drmies (talk) 15:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I told another admin who I am, he can tell you I am experienced and good-faithed, is that good enough? I understand you do not like my username, its a bit weird. I made thousands of edits with IGLOO and AWB already, and have plenty of anti-vandalism barnstars. Sada Abe (talk) 06:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
It seems you made the last change to page: Abby Newman. Please, can you get rid of the redirection and move the page Abby Carlton to Abby Newman. It is her rightful, legal name and she has been using it for two years now, making it also the name best recognized for her. Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allukka (talk • contribs) 19:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- There are contents and a history at the destination page. Please file your request at Wikipedia:Requested moves as I have no experience with history merges. --Dianna (talk) 06:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
sublists
doing this will remove the bullet before the parenthesis. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 21:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know, but the parentheses are not wrapping with the rest of the text, and can be left hanging alone on a line. See {{Prince singles}} for a good example. I don't want to use this feature until it is working better. --Dianna (talk) 21:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Hemingway template
Sorry for snapping at you yesterday; I'd had a bad day and it spilled over. I wanted to thank you for linking to the tool. I'll play around with colors to find one that's compliant; if I can't, it can stay baby blue. Truthkeeper (talk) 13:52, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for apologising. If you have the time could you please read the material at Wikipedia:Navigation templates#Properties? Templates should not be arbitrarily decorative. Besides the contrast issues we already talked about, we have to take great care with colour as we have more and more people viewing the site from mobile devices all the time, and some of the stuff that looks fine at home will not work on a cell phone or other mobile device. I would not be surprised if at some point the option for individual users to colour-up the wiki will be eliminated so that a more unified more professional appearance will be presented to our readers. Did you see this stuff about the new Athena skin? The wiki is changing very fast right now. See you around. --Dianna (talk) 16:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- The thing is this: I work a lot. And when I'm here I write. So no, I'm not aware of these many changes. But perhaps I should stop writing and keep up more. Although I'm not entirely stupid - particularly when it comes to technology. I think these comments are better suited on template talkpage re color preference. Regards. Truthkeeper (talk) 17:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, don't stop writing. That's a bad idea :) I feel stupid too sometimes; just when you think you've got it all figured out they will come out with some other new technical improvement or rule. Knowledge is a moving target—a journey, not a destination.
I think that you got off on the wrong foot with the other editor because you did not notice the technical improvements to the template and reverted it because of the change in colour. The other user did provide you with a valid reason for removing the colour right from their very first edit. I know you put a lot of thought into exactly what the right colour for Ernest Hemingway should be, so it's hard to hear that it was not compliant with contrast guidelines. But, we got to practice a Buddhist sense of non-attachment when it comes to stuff like that. --Dianna (talk) 17:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, don't stop writing. That's a bad idea :) I feel stupid too sometimes; just when you think you've got it all figured out they will come out with some other new technical improvement or rule. Knowledge is a moving target—a journey, not a destination.
- Diannaa, when you have invested as much time, dilegence and sweat as TK has on the Hemingway articles you might reconsider the fuzzy "Buddhist sense of non-attachment" cmt and get back to her. Have you any idea how much that offends and dispirits. I mean really, wtf. Ceoil (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dianna - a couple of things. One, regarding the your defending Alarbus because he linked to the relevant color charts on the talk, I forgot to mention that his link brought me to a blank page. More disturbing to me is that as an administrator you overlooked his 5 reversions, overlooked the effort to gain consensus, which is how we do things around here, and instead issued a warning. At my talk page rather than explain why I should install the script, ("hey TK my script shows errors in the cites at Hemingway") you simply told me (or so I perceived) to install a script without any context - this while I was trying to work on a tricky bit of content. Then, instead of backing away and letting it drop, you went through the Hemingway page and made a long list of "problems" that needed to be fixed. And issued another warning because you could as the only administrator on the page. All of these actions are bound to result in bad feelings all the way around and bound to get my back up. I'll spend the time redoing the 200 and some cites on the Hemingway page, but I'd like for you to give some thought to the consequences of your actions. Thanks. Truthkeeper (talk) 14:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Good morning, Truthkeeper88. I notified you of the availability of the script and then spent the next hour and a half helping to resolve the Hemingway problem, by fixing the citation errors that I was able to suss out without any help and without access to the sources. It was not my intention to stalk your edits; I actually thought I was being helpful. Again I apologise. Dianna (talk) 14:56, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- I need to let this go because either you're intentionally missing the point or really don't understand. I already know about Ucucha's script but I've made a decision not to install. I've asked this three times now - why, as an administrator did you choose to overlook Alarbus' edit warring, and instead focus on extremely minor cite problems on a page that took nine months to write and has over 200 cites? Is edit warring not a bright line? And yes, you were stalking my edits, but I don't mind that. I do mind that you overlooked the edit warring to focus on the trivial. Truthkeeper (talk) 15:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- I did not issue edit warring warnings to anybody involved in the edit war. Alarbus had already been warned about the edit war rules by another editor, and no one else was warned not to edit war. I issued two warnings to Ceoil for these personal attacks diff diff diff diff diff and ignored many other personal attacks by him on other pages, including those here on my own talk page. You know, I never meant to imply that you should be non-attached to the Hemingway article; I was referring to the colour in the template. --Dianna (talk) 16:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- You ignored that we were trying to achieve consensus and you ignored Alarbus' aggressiveness. That's a real problem in my view. No one else edit warred. I changed the template once which started the incident, removed trivia a second time and this was it. Alarbus reverted consistently. If you can't see the underlying and much more serious problem of interrupting a consensus seeking conversation and a bright line offense and only focus on personal attacks then I think this is an prime example of why editors are driven away - particularly by admins who pick and choose issues. Also, since you chose to undertake a mini-source review, I'd like you to strike the issues that I resolved instead of leaving that long list on the page as though I've done something naughty. Truthkeeper (talk) 17:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- I did not issue edit warring warnings to anybody involved in the edit war. Alarbus had already been warned about the edit war rules by another editor, and no one else was warned not to edit war. I issued two warnings to Ceoil for these personal attacks diff diff diff diff diff and ignored many other personal attacks by him on other pages, including those here on my own talk page. You know, I never meant to imply that you should be non-attached to the Hemingway article; I was referring to the colour in the template. --Dianna (talk) 16:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- An irony is that I'm quite proud of each of the diffs listed as PA. The universe is ruined by fools, always was always will be. Tragic, but is worth worth hammering them when you see them. And its fun. You Diannaa seem more concerned with defending the rights of idiots. Ceoil (talk) 01:49, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- I need to let this go because either you're intentionally missing the point or really don't understand. I already know about Ucucha's script but I've made a decision not to install. I've asked this three times now - why, as an administrator did you choose to overlook Alarbus' edit warring, and instead focus on extremely minor cite problems on a page that took nine months to write and has over 200 cites? Is edit warring not a bright line? And yes, you were stalking my edits, but I don't mind that. I do mind that you overlooked the edit warring to focus on the trivial. Truthkeeper (talk) 15:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
You
Have some arrogance to treat me as child and warn me with such tired cliches about cmt on the contributions not the editor. The irony is I was doing exactly that, given that your contib to that page is so transprentlty as I called it; you are following TK and have tried to assinate her, badly I might add. Not knowing you before today, and judging from todays actions I suspect you dont care too much what the incumbants on any article think, which is a problem. For you, rather than us. Ceoil (talk) 19:57, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
GOCE drive newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 backlog elimination drive update
Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 46 people sign up for this drive so far, and 28 have copy edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't joined, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We are making great progress in our goal of clearing out the oldest articles (April, May, and June 2010) from the queue. There are 122 articles left in those categories, which compares very favorably with the 281 that were present at the close of the September drive. We have reduced the 2010 backlog by 184 articles so far. Coordinator elections: The term of our second tranche of coordinators will be running out at the end of the year, and we will be accepting nominations for new coordinators early in December. The election will likely run in the last two weeks of December. Please consider helping out by nominating yourself or someone else in the Guild as one of our coordinators. The commitment is for a six-month term. Thanks. Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters |
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Thank You
For reverting that on my talk page. It's the first time that happened to me, but I've seen it happen many times to others. It's still visible in the diffs,[2] but I'm not sure how this is handled. Cheers :> Doc talk 06:38, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- What's still visible? I can't see your IP any more. Should be ok --Dianna (talk) 06:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- It's in the sig. I don't really care, as I live where I live. But if there's some policy regarding revealing IPs I'd comply with it happily and repost the comment while signed in. Doc talk 06:44, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Facepalm It isn't there anymore, but was when I originally posted here. Nevermind, and thanks again :) Doc talk 06:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- No worries; you must have been looking at a cached version :) Good night --Dianna (talk) 06:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for explanation
Thank you very much for taking time to give an explanation of why you converted a particular navbox template (one to which I have been a repeat contributor) to the hlist format. I found your explanation here but I realize it's an explanation you've used on many pages. Within just a few words, you made the advantages clear, whereas, when I requested an explanation from another editor who'd made the same change two months ago, all I received were rude comments and false accusations. All I needed was a clear explanation of the benefits or a link to a discussion of such, but he provided neither. As mentioned in the edit summary for this edit and then in this exchange on my talk page, I feel that the slightly wider leading (vertical spacing) produced by the old template (at least in some widely used browsers) made the box slightly more readable, but that is a very minor advantage compared with the advantages you've now identified for me. Maybe someone will tweak the hlist code eventually to increase the leading back to the earlier style. SJ Morg (talk) 12:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words. User:Edoktor has been fiddling with the padding on these lists so hopefully you have seen some improvements in the spacing of your navboxes. We will now be able to strip out the padding that has been manually added to many navboxes as this has been dealt with at a higher level in the style sheet. You may have noticed an article on
hlist
in this week's signpost. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 15:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)- You're welcome, and thanks for letting me know about the Signpost article, which I had not yet noticed. SJ Morg (talk) 15:08, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Personal Attack issue from two IPs.
RE [3], the personal attack has continued, as the editor continues calling me stupid. Correct me if I'm wrong but there are policies against this behavior on Wikipedia right? I have told the editor to assume good faith, however he/she continues. I would appreciate some action on this. Thanks. --ḾỊḼʘɴίcả • Talk • I DX for fun! 05:48, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- I will investigate immediately. --Dianna (talk) 05:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have blocked the range for 3 days. Please let me know if the bad behavior resumes once the block expires, or if they appear on another range of IPs, or if they re-appear with a named account. They may try editing from school or a coffee shop for example. If you could again collect any IPs they use, that would be helpful for range blocks. Sorry you had this unpleasant experience. --Dianna (talk) 06:06, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Odd, then, how you didn't assume good faith when you blindly reverted my edits, but you expect it from others. Interesting. 174.91.2.28 (talk) 06:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have extended the range of the block as a result of this new information. --Dianna (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Good job. 69.158.139.230 (talk) 15:32, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- 69.158.139.230 is the same person as 174.91.2.28, 174.91.7.34 and the other one above. --ḾỊḼʘɴίcả • Talk • I DX for fun! 18:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have blocked that range too, which is very likely his school in or near Aurora, Ontario. --Dianna (talk) 19:41, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have extended the range of the block as a result of this new information. --Dianna (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Odd, then, how you didn't assume good faith when you blindly reverted my edits, but you expect it from others. Interesting. 174.91.2.28 (talk) 06:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- I have blocked the range for 3 days. Please let me know if the bad behavior resumes once the block expires, or if they appear on another range of IPs, or if they re-appear with a named account. They may try editing from school or a coffee shop for example. If you could again collect any IPs they use, that would be helpful for range blocks. Sorry you had this unpleasant experience. --Dianna (talk) 06:06, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Copyvio work
Hi Diannaa,
I see that the copyvio thread from the other day has been archived. Is this something you're still working on? Obviously there's still quite a lot to be checked. Thanks for all your work on this! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:58, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Chris. The ones I checked were easy, as he had only added links! I think the best way to handle the remaining material is to list the case at WP:CCI because my unfortunatley wiki-time is limited right now and it will be impossible for me to finish the work. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 13:20, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Case opened. Cheers! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks so much. --Dianna (talk) 14:35, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Case opened. Cheers! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
An old friend returns
Guess who is back... Do you have a large stick or similar implement? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 07:10, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- Geolocates to NYC, why am I not surprised. I will lay down a short block. Please let me know if the activity continues. --Dianna (talk) 07:18, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
I see that you nominated our Hitler article for GA review. Please let me know when a reviewer volunteers, I'd like to help. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 21:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will do that. --Dianna (talk) 21:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, glad to help. I'm going to make some small changes to the article. Feel free to revert anything you don't like. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay; thank you. I will stay away for now. We likely have plenty of time to add more polish, as GA is backlogged. --Dianna (talk) 23:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- The review has now started. Any help is appreciated. --Dianna (talk) 15:26, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
- Okay; thank you. I will stay away for now. We likely have plenty of time to add more polish, as GA is backlogged. --Dianna (talk) 23:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, glad to help. I'm going to make some small changes to the article. Feel free to revert anything you don't like. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
E751
Hi! I know it's not right to bypass the GOCE queue to get an article copyedited - I normally go there before any GAN, but this one seems to have slipped my attention in that respect - and review comments posted at Talk:European route E751/GA1 include problematic prose. The reviewer has already copyedited the article, but could you please take a look too?--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry but I am unable to help right now, as I nominated Adolf Hitler for GA and it is presently under review. So sorry, that is all I will have time for. --Dianna (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, thank you anyway.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for converting nav boxes to use hlist
I saw that you just made a formatting conversion to a new, better way of listing entries in nav boxes. Thanks; I had not seen this before. I will convert all the nav boxes I have ever made and then do this in the future to other nav boxes. It makes them a lot easier to edit. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Blue Rasberry. There is more information about this change at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2011-11-21/Technology report#Horizontal lists have got class, and a script is available to help with the conversion. The script can be installed in your common.js and will do most of the work for you. Just paste
importScript('User:WOSlinker/hlist.js');
into your common.js. If you need help installing the sript, please let me know. Thanks for offering to do some of the templates, of which we have millions. --Dianna (talk) 15:10, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: The use of dots is deprecated, and has been since August
When you say "dots", you're referring to {{·w}} and {{·}}, correct? --Bad Graphics Ghost (talk) 14:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Bad Graphics Ghost. Please refer to the thread directly above this one, which contains some relevant info. In addition to the two dot templates you mention and those listed below, we are stripping out nowrap markup, as the no-wrap behaviour is now coming from higher up, in the site-wide css. Non-breaking spaces are also no longer required. If an item is especially long, you can allow it to break by wrapping it in the new {{allow wrap}} template. Any extra padding can also be stripped out, as this has been added to the site-wide css.
- WOSlinker's script is calling for the removal of the following templates and dots from navboxes:
- {nowrap begin}
- {nowrap end}
- {•wrap}
- {•w}
- {·wrap}
- {·w}
- {·}
- {,}
- {•}
- ·
- •
- others
- For more information on the change, please refer to the Signpost article quoted in the thread above. A little information is available at WP:HLIST and some sample templates of unusual techniques are available at User:Diannaa#Sample templates. Thank you for your inquiry. --Dianna (talk) 15:27, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank Youu
Hi Diannaa, Thanks for sorting that on out, and for your explanation. I only added the complete list of management to complete the list that another member had already started, and assumed that it was ok. The new box looks great, and again thanks for your advice :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlrpfan (talk • contribs) 15:21, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for stopping by, Dlrpfan. Please refer to the two threads directly above this one, which contain more information on this issue. --Dianna (talk) 15:29, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Invitation to the December Wikification Drive
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Sorry for the confusion. I should have given more explanation. I did not mean the length of the code. The problem lays in the fact that you have placed each link on its own line, thereby making the template far too long when lists such as "Camps" or "Atrocities" are shown.Hoops gza (talk) 04:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. I guess I did not examine those sections very carefully, because now I see what you mean. --Dianna (talk) 04:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Something new, and borrowed, and blue
A lesson learned for me. Thank you. I will swap it into the Chinese Province templates, and all the others I encounter. I wasn't married to the old style anyway. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:18, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Anna. The even-odd swap does not always work. Note I also had to re-number some groups to get the striping to come out properly. --Dianna (talk) 04:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- I see. Okay. I will use it where applicable -- where it makes a favourable difference. Actually, I had discussed this sort of thing here. Many thanks for the new slice of code. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Look again; the renumber was not necessary (although sometimes it is). The first line should always have the whiter background, so swap elsewhere. Alarbus (talk) 05:48, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Alarbus. Unfortunately the striping is practically invisible on my display, which makes it difficult to tell whats going on :( --Dianna (talk) 05:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- The contrast should be better; try Template:Navbox/testcases#Gradient. Alarbus (talk) 05:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- These are better, but still quite faint, unless the monitor is tipped to an alarming angle. --Dianna (talk) 05:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- CRT monitors give a poorer user experience than the various flat panel technologies (which also vary in quality). Upgrade? Anyway, the contrast between the stripes is poor. Guess I should find a custodian to fix it. I have a few threads going with the help about such things, but have been absent for the last day and a half. Alarbus (talk) 06:11, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- These are better, but still quite faint, unless the monitor is tipped to an alarming angle. --Dianna (talk) 05:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- The contrast should be better; try Template:Navbox/testcases#Gradient. Alarbus (talk) 05:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Alarbus. Unfortunately the striping is practically invisible on my display, which makes it difficult to tell whats going on :( --Dianna (talk) 05:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Alarbus: I quite like the Template:Navbox/testcases#Gradient. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- It's User:Edokter's work (and nice). Alarbus (talk) 20:17, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Diannaa: Wow! Nice. Are you planning to do them all? I considered it, but thought it too much work. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Anna. I would love to do them all, and will chip away at it. It might take a while. Are they all in Category:People's Republic of China province-level subdivision templates ? Or are there similar templates in other categories? --Dianna (talk) 19:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- I was planning on doing them all; all the navboxes.. Alarbus (talk) 20:17, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Newsletter
I've created the end-of-drive newsletter here. Feel free to go over it. Regards, The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 15:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will start doing the calculations for barnstars. --Dianna (talk) 16:24, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- And thanks for getting the election nomination page started as well. --Dianna (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Do you think the newsletter is ready to be sent out? The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 14:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, I do. I have asked SMasters to send it out using AWB and hopefully he will get to it in the next few days. --Dianna (talk) 14:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Do you think the newsletter is ready to be sent out? The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 14:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- And thanks for getting the election nomination page started as well. --Dianna (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Hey Diannaa how are you? I hope you are doing well these days. I nominated "Rehab" for FA, third time. However, some reviewers have commented about prose issues that the article still possesses even though was copy-edited numerous times. Can you slightly c/e the article per the comments on the FAC page and add you magic to it? :) I know you are one of the best copy-editors on Wikipedia and will be happy If you can do that. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 20:19, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to disappoint, but I have extremely limited time available for Wikipedia right now, and am gonna have to say no. --Dianna (talk) 20:22, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay then. :) — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 20:24, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the recognition!
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Template:Xinjiang et al.
I do not see why conveying information solely through colour should be avoided, as you explained here. For Xinjiang in particular, the creation of child groups is ill-advised because doing so confusingly lumps Tacheng and Altay Prefectures with all other prefectures when they are under the administration of Ili Prefecture; the version that stood for over a year, with Tacheng and Altay right under Ili and indented, is much clearer in conveying that fact.
Also, for the provincial templates you applied similar changes to, the pre-November 2011 version of each was (often much) more compact. And if Template:Xinjiang is reverted back for the reasons given above, then for the sake of standardisation, all of the other templates must follow suit, too. GotR Talk 23:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Guerrilla of the Renmin, and welcome to Wikipedia. The reason we cannot convey information solely by colour is because some people cannot see colour: they are colourblind. There are also many who cannot distinguish the various shades of blue and green selected to identify material in this set of templates due to problems detecting variances in contrast. In addition to those users, we have a small percentage of readers who cannot see at all, and access the material via a screen reader. Please refer to WP:COLOR for the guideline on the desirability of not using colour as the sole means of conveying information.
- I have checked the {{Xinjiang}} template and I have to be honest with you, I had not even noticed that these two items were slightly indented. The information that had been conveyed through indenting these two items is still present in a footnote. --Dianna (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks much for the full explanation...I was not previously aware of web accessibility as it relates to Wiki. As much as I like the previous usage of colours, if I have the time, I will get to standardising the other templates according to the recent creation of child groups. GotR Talk 05:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for offering to help. --Dianna (talk) 05:50, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
re: edit on Ronn Torossian
I realized later (I was looking at the two edits together, which is why I didn't see the edit summary) that the edit wasn't unexplained and I contacted the IP editor to clarify why I reverted the revert. I do think my edit is fine, since Jeffrey Goldberg is a pretty well established commentator on US-Israeli relations, and Gawker has become a pretty reputable source since then (particularly since I'm using it to source something as uncontroversial as a book release, and I prefer the Gawker link over the Amazon product link). Mosmof (talk) 01:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for clearing it up so quickly. --Dianna (talk) 02:07, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
MSNBC is a better source than a gossip website so no need for a questionable source. Also Goldberg may be a commentator on Israel but thats not relevant for a PR biography. Happy to discuss on talk page and Diannaa appreciate your commentary and support. 173.221.85.251 (talk) 17:15, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- 173, I left a message on your talk page, but I should note that (a) to call Gawker a gossip site (at least in its 2011 form) is inaccurate - it's a NY media/publishing site; and (b) the MSNBC link is unhelpful because it only passes Ron Toorosian in passing. But yes, feel free to talk about the edits on the talk page, including the content you keep deleting. --Mosmof (talk) 01:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
GOCE drive newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 backlog elimination drive report
![]() Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We would like to thank all who participated in this drive. Here is the end-of-drive report.
There were 48 editors who signed-up for this drive, of which 35 participated. Thank you to everyone who helped reduce the size of the backlog!
During the drive, we reduced the backlog by 232 articles, or by about 6%. This is a two percent increase from our September drive, when we copy edited 4% of the backlog. We were successful in our primary goal of clearing the oldest three months—March, April, and May 2010—from the queue. Thanks to all who helped copy edit these difficult articles. Thus far we have reduced the copy edit backlog by 5086 articles, or by about 61%. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here.
The term of our second tranche of coordinators has run out, and we will be accepting nominations from December 5, 00:01 UTC to December 15, 23:59 UTC. If you or any other member of the Guild of Copy Editors wishes to be a coordinator, add your name to this page along with a statement describing why you believe you should be a coordinator for the Guild. You must be able to commit to a six month term. Thanks! Once again, thank you for participating in the Guild's November 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Our next drive will be in January, and we hope to see you there! Your drive coordinators – Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02 and SMasters |
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Just wondering...
I wasn't aware of it before today, but there seems to be a leadership award here. Since I was the leader of of all three categories during the November drive, and I didn't receive that award, I'm just wondering if that's been discontinued. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:28, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Well that's odd, because I show that I gave you a bunch of barnstars, including the leaderboard awards, on December 4; here is the diff. What am I missing? --Dianna (talk) 05:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Probably this. If you think I deserve it but is a lot of hassle, don't worry about it -- I was just wondering. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 22:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oops, my bad. I am gonna say the gold-plated typewriters were on back-order, and just came in. :) Sorry about that. --Dianna (talk) 02:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, should I replace the silver-plated with the new gold-plated typewriters, or should I keep them? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 23:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- I bet they are worth a fortune on e-Bay --Dianna (talk) 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Request
Hi, would you please use a script to anglicize the spellings in the Rajneesh movement article? Thanks. Joyson Prabhu Holla at me! 14:53, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done! Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 15:04, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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Help please
Hi Diannaa, during a copy edit, the editor I was working with did this (2nd item). I covered it as best I could with this, but perhaps it ought to be removed even from the page history? Please could you do whatever is needed? --Stfg (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Done I have hidden it. --Dianna (talk) 18:56, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. Unfortunately it's also in this version, which sits between its introduction and my deletion. Sorry to trouble you again. --Stfg (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Got it. You may have to re-post some of your comments. Thanks for watching out for this sort of stuff. --Dianna (talk) 19:40, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm pretty sure everything needed is still there and everything that should have disappeared has done. Thanks for the help. --Stfg (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Got it. You may have to re-post some of your comments. Thanks for watching out for this sort of stuff. --Dianna (talk) 19:40, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. Unfortunately it's also in this version, which sits between its introduction and my deletion. Sorry to trouble you again. --Stfg (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Adolf Hitler article
Great work on said article. One minor note, I was trying to streamline the cites a little more and somehow there is a ref error. It has me scratching my head. Can you see if you can fix it. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 17:54, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Done Regards, --Dianna (talk) 19:01, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
Thank you for fixing the "Jaguar/Sandbox/3" problem. I'm afraid that I don't use Wikipedia anymore so I was not able to sort out the problem myself. Anyway, thanks! Jaguar (talk) 17:09, 19 December 2011 (UTC) |
FYI
Hi D. My reply to you was deleted within 1 minute of my posting it, so I'm leaving it here in the event that you did not see it. The concern that the IP might be the subject of the article does -- though coming from a good place, I understand -- seem unlikely. And there were 3 prior efforts to communicate with him on talkpages. And his edits that prompted warnings did impact another article as well. I understand that there is a weighing that goes on between a) protecting the project; and b) protecting the IP. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you look a little closer, you will see that two of these attempts were pasted on to templates: Dbrodbeck's post of 4:45 was an addendum to a Template:uw-delete3; Resolute's post of 3:30 was a modified Template:uw-ew. All other posts were templates or via Twinkle. Not everyone would construe the removal of the fact that someone is Jewish as vandalism. I know I don't. Religion doesn't have any implications for hockey playing talent. So we may have to agree to disagree on this one. Have you seen Sue Gardner's video? http://bambuser.com/channel/pigsonthewing/broadcast/2140682 Very much worth seeing. I have a shitty connection right now so I am gonna log off and get my shopping done. TTYL. --Dianna (talk) 20:54, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes -- I saw that. There was also a personal non-template note on the article talk page. As to the meta issue, there are many halls of fame (e.g., here and here) and books (e.g., here) that of course have a different view. In any event, whether attached to a template (twice; are you suggesting that Resolute's personalized note was deficient because it was attached to the template, and that to have full effect he should have left it as a separate message?) or not (on the article talk page once), there were efforts at personalized communication, and to my main point addressing your concern, the photo and article suggests strongly that the IP is not MC. Will watch the video with interest -- thanks! Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the additional information. See you around. --Dianna (talk) 22:41, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Maxim has now semi'd the page till after the new, year, so I guess that's that for a while. I am watching for a reply from the IP but I bet it's case closed. We'll see. --Dianna (talk) 22:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Great. Have a happy new year. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Maxim has now semi'd the page till after the new, year, so I guess that's that for a while. I am watching for a reply from the IP but I bet it's case closed. We'll see. --Dianna (talk) 22:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the additional information. See you around. --Dianna (talk) 22:41, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes -- I saw that. There was also a personal non-template note on the article talk page. As to the meta issue, there are many halls of fame (e.g., here and here) and books (e.g., here) that of course have a different view. In any event, whether attached to a template (twice; are you suggesting that Resolute's personalized note was deficient because it was attached to the template, and that to have full effect he should have left it as a separate message?) or not (on the article talk page once), there were efforts at personalized communication, and to my main point addressing your concern, the photo and article suggests strongly that the IP is not MC. Will watch the video with interest -- thanks! Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- If you look a little closer, you will see that two of these attempts were pasted on to templates: Dbrodbeck's post of 4:45 was an addendum to a Template:uw-delete3; Resolute's post of 3:30 was a modified Template:uw-ew. All other posts were templates or via Twinkle. Not everyone would construe the removal of the fact that someone is Jewish as vandalism. I know I don't. Religion doesn't have any implications for hockey playing talent. So we may have to agree to disagree on this one. Have you seen Sue Gardner's video? http://bambuser.com/channel/pigsonthewing/broadcast/2140682 Very much worth seeing. I have a shitty connection right now so I am gonna log off and get my shopping done. TTYL. --Dianna (talk) 20:54, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
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GOCE drive newsletter
Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors
![]() Elections are currently underway for our third tranche of Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, 16 December – 23:59 UTC, 31 December. All GOCE members, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are five candidates vying for four positions. Your vote really matters! Cast your vote today. |
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 10:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Copyediting drive Jan 2012
I am thinking of participating. Managed to get the page size working (edited your instructions). Now looking at a recent thorough edit I did on Juan Roque (Zape Confraternity). Discovered I took it from 1115 words to 847. Not sure why, in general, word length is a measure of copyediting skill. Does one always expect to reduce an article in length? (I remembered that that article was one I reduced greatly)
Then (step 2) Log completed copy edits in the Running Totals section - where is that supposed to be done? Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 11:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Jack Greenmaven. Yeah, normally the article will be a bit smaller when you are finished the copy edit. Logging of the copy edits will be done on the drive page, which has not been created yet. You can look at the page for the last drive to see how we do it: Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/November 2011. Please have a look at that and if you have any more questions please let me know. Thank you for offering to help with copy edits. --Dianna (talk) 15:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Copy edits done in December will not count towards your January totals. The page will be up and running soon and then you will be able to sign up for the drive. --Dianna (talk) 20:21, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I've launched the page. Sorry for just putting a note on the Guild's talk page; I was in a hurry this morning and didn't have time to contact everyone. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 21:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
I have just edited The Daughters of the Late Colonel from the request list. I have reduced it by 80 words. Have I been too harsh? There was almost nothing to criticize about grammar and spelling, it just seemed wordy and flowery in style. Should we reduce such articles as part of copyediting? --Greenmaven (talk) 21:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
I just figured out (from the FAQ) the reasoning behind the word counts . Doh!
- Q: I'm confused by the word count measurements implied in the barnstar awards section (i.e. "At least 2,000 words", etc.). Is this supposed to be a measurement of the total number of words in each article, or of the difference in the number of words between the start and finish of the copyedit?
- A: It's the initial number of words in each article before any editing is done.
Thanks --Greenmaven (talk) 23:56, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, we are nominating this article for FA. Would you please use the scripts to change the spelling variant to British, and also fix the dashes in the ranges. Thank you. Joyson Prabhu Holla at me! 15:48, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- These items were already good, but I did some other fixes using a different scrpit. Good luck on your FA bid. --Dianna (talk) 20:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Copyediting request
Hi Diannaa :)
I hope you are well, and that real life isn't getting too much in the way of editing. :) Would you consider giving Hurricane Debra (1959) a pre-GAN copyedit? Thanks!
HurricaneFan25 — 16:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I still have big RL commitments right now so my wiki-time has to be devoted to my own interests for the time being. Sorry. Good luck on your GA bid. --Dianna (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
What to do with this one?
Hi Dianna. I've spotted someone taking on jobs from the Requests page who really hasn't the ability to do it. Subject/verb disagreement, run-on sentences, unnecessary content removal, you name it, they do it. I suspect this editor may be emotionally vulnerable. Has this kind of situation been encountered before, and do we know how to handle it? I'm asking The Utahraptor too. I don't think it's urgent, so please don't interrupt your Christmas for it. Do use email if you like. And have a great Christmas. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 22:41, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- What's been done in the past is to do a review of one or two of their copy edits and give specific advice about what could have been done differently or better. Chaosdruid has done a few of these and I have also done one or two. It usually ends with the editor realising they are not ready for the job and they take off to do other kinds of edits. If you would like to give it a try please go ahead. If you need me to do it please provide specifics by email. Thanks for your concern and have a great holiday weekend. :) --Dianna (talk) 05:06, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Dianna. I will have a go at it once the festivities are over. --Stfg (talk) 10:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Ballet
hi! see this revert and the subsequent comments at User talk:Robertgreer#Template:Ballet. I'm not sure if I am going to be online to help out with this issue. it seems there are still some lingering complaints about hlist :( I hope this can be resolved, because the double bullets looks very odd. Frietjes (talk) 15:40, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Good morning. It looks like Alarbus saw the events. He has done a little clean-up and replied to Robertgreer. Unfortunately I do not have access to the operating systems this person is using so I am unable to view it the way he is seeing it. I have watch-listed the template and the user's talk page and will help if needed. Thanks for your unending interest helping with templates, and have a great holiday weekend. --Dianna (talk) 16:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
script
Hi, what is the code for the British English script? Joyson Prabhu Holla at me! 17:59, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi there! Paste this into your .js file:
importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/EngvarB.js');
Merry Christmas!
Good tidings to you and your kin! :) Wilhelmina Will (talk) 09:38, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Sassa frazza f!*!£!"ing razzumz
Hi
Apologies for the tardiness, but after switching electricity suppliers on Dec 23rd, guess what? ...
Yup, you guessed it ... the electricity went off late Christmas Eve until being restored this morning! Lol, what a nightmare. Luckily I had already arranged to be somewhere for Christmas day, but it did impede my sending of Christmas cheer and wishes; both on Wiki as well as e-cards to my family and friends who are now overseas.
- You make my life look simple and trouble-free. Your cheerfulness is an inspiration. Thanks for the card, and best wishes for the holidays. Regards, --Dianna (talk) 16:26, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Itz Crizmaz | |
Cripez! Once that huge bird starts to eatz doz humanz, RUNZ!! Merry Christmas and a Happy new year :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 16:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC) |
Ho hum. Back to work... (after Ho Ho Ho)
Diana: I am looking forward to the Jan backlog drive. Is one expected to do a complete cleanup of an article, including wikifying etc? Or can one stick to a minimalist definition of CE? Hope Xmas was good to you. --Greenmaven (talk) 03:11, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the Christmas wishes. Hope you also has a good holiday. If it looks like the chances are that no one will be revisiting the article for some time, it is a good idea to do some routine clean-up and wikification. My advice is to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to/Step by step guide. --Dianna (talk) 03:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
GOCE Statistics
Season's Greetings my friend. Hope you had a nice Christmas and enjoying the holidays. There's still time to do the YER. What numbers would you like me to give you? Let me know and I will put AWB to work. Cheers! :) --SMasters (talk) 06:28, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, SMasters, and season's greetings. I know there are 669 members who have placed the Guild user box on their page, but we have additional members on 'this list, many of whom also have the user box on their page. So what is the total membership? Thanks. --Dianna (talk) 14:33, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Some are on both lists, so duplicates need to be removed. I'll do a calculation and back to you by today. Cheers. --SMasters (talk) 22:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Total membership as of today stands at 764. Membership end of last year was 503. There was a growth of 261 or 51%. Cheers. --SMasters (talk) 23:55, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- That is a cheery bit of news, as I think the number of articles tagged for copy edit has grown dramatically as well, but I don't know how to verify. Any thoughts? --Dianna (talk) 23:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- As a comparison, last year's growth was 176 members. So, this year had a larger growth compared to last year as there were 90 more signups than last year. I'm not sure how to calculate the number of tagged articles as the numbers change dynamically. So unless we have a starting number to work with, it's hard to make an estimate. --SMasters (talk) 00:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Impossible to calculate. I will include the membership statistics, though, and I have asked Utahraptor to write a paragraph about plans for the new year. Thanks again for your help. --Dianna (talk) 00:06, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- No problems. He asked me to do the graphs for him. That is a bit more work but I hope to have it finished sometime today. --SMasters (talk) 00:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Impossible to calculate. I will include the membership statistics, though, and I have asked Utahraptor to write a paragraph about plans for the new year. Thanks again for your help. --Dianna (talk) 00:06, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- As a comparison, last year's growth was 176 members. So, this year had a larger growth compared to last year as there were 90 more signups than last year. I'm not sure how to calculate the number of tagged articles as the numbers change dynamically. So unless we have a starting number to work with, it's hard to make an estimate. --SMasters (talk) 00:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- That is a cheery bit of news, as I think the number of articles tagged for copy edit has grown dramatically as well, but I don't know how to verify. Any thoughts? --Dianna (talk) 23:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Total membership as of today stands at 764. Membership end of last year was 503. There was a growth of 261 or 51%. Cheers. --SMasters (talk) 23:55, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
- Some are on both lists, so duplicates need to be removed. I'll do a calculation and back to you by today. Cheers. --SMasters (talk) 22:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue LXIX, November 2011
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The Signpost: 26 December 2011
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Eva Braun photos
Diannaa: the photos in question were from User talk:Frankonno, a relative of Braun who passed away in late November, 2011. One can look at his talk page as to past queries as to said photos. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 04:14, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- If a photo is owned by Getty Images, we are not allowed to use it. The photo of Eva does not say who took the photo or what the source was. I have notified Frankonno of these concerns. Too bad; now we only have the picture with the dogs :( --Dianna (talk) 04:44, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Since he is now dead, I doubt another family member will reply. BTW-you wanted to know the fate of her dogs, see: Fritz Tornow- he shot them; it is cited there, as well; I did some editing on the article months ago. Kierzek (talk) 20:12, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I did not know the user had died. :( Thanks for the info about the dogs. I will patch this in later. --Dianna (talk) 20:32, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- I've switched up some photos to put Braun more in perspective in the infobox. Hope you don't mind. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Crisco. I was hoping someone would know how to do that :) --Dianna (talk) 14:36, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, I did not know the user had died. :( Thanks for the info about the dogs. I will patch this in later. --Dianna (talk) 20:32, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Since he is now dead, I doubt another family member will reply. BTW-you wanted to know the fate of her dogs, see: Fritz Tornow- he shot them; it is cited there, as well; I did some editing on the article months ago. Kierzek (talk) 20:12, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Stuff
- {{Indcom}}
- {{Hinduism}}
- {{Writing guides}}
- {{Politics of Germany}}
Kings n Queens
- Normans -
done
- Angevins - They are grouped with the Plantagenets
- Plantagenet - ok
- Lancaster - {{House of Lancaster}}
- York - {{House of York}}
- Tudor - {{House of Tudor}}
- Stuart - {{House of Stuart sidebar}}
- Hanover - {{House of Hanover (UK)}}
- Saxe-Coburg-Gotha - {{House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (UK)}}
- Windsor - {{House of Windsor}}
WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/January 2012
Diannaa: I'm new to copy-editing the Wikipedia articles, so excuse my ignorance on the procedures followed here. Could you please let me know how can I mark that I've copy-edited a particular article. Does Wikipedia recognizes the pages I've Copy-edited. And, please let me know the whole procedures. Thanks in advance.
Susruthanvesh (talk) 15:38, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Susruthanvesh.
- The copy edit drive starts on January 1. Only articles completed during the month of January count towards the drive totals. There are instructions on the Drive main page, and the record keeping is done on the current drive page. Please read over this material and let me know if there is anything you do not understand. There is a beginner's guide of general copy editing instructions that might be useful as well. Thank you for your interest. --Dianna (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi. This article is a GA and has just undergone a PR, however it needs a copyedit before it can reach FA. If you have time, please help improve the article with a copyedit, as part of the elimination drive. Happy Holidays!!! --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:15, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, Redtigeryz. Though the article looks interesting, I am going to have to say no, because I have very limited time to edit nowadays. So I am pursuing my own interests right now. Sorry about that. --Dianna (talk) 03:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
There is a request for unprotection at WP:RFPP for this article. Looks pretty quiet recently, but running this by you first to see if you had any thoughts on the matter. AlexiusHoratius 15:32, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- There are three problems with the article. Number one, a lot of people don't understand what we mean by old-style dates. So they remove the [O.S. 5 January]. Second problem: they flip it back and forth between starting his name with a C and a K. Of course neither is correct; it starts with the Cryllic letter К. Third problem: it is a target for vandalism of the "has a big penis" variety. The person asking for unprotection has 12 edits, several of which are adding year links, which is something that is not encouraged any more. So my opinion would be no. --Dianna (talk) 16:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
You deserve a barnstar!
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Good Article Award
For developing Alexander the Great, an article under WikiProject India, into a Good Article. AshLin (talk) 17:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
- Hey, thanks, AshLin. --Dianna (talk) 17:49, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations
The Copyeditor's Barnstar | ||
Awarded to Diannaa, as part of AustralianRupert's 2012 New Year Honours List, in recognition of their work copyediting articles throughout 2011. Thank you and keep up the good work! AustralianRupert (talk) 10:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
Thanks! What a nice surprise. --Dianna (talk) 15:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)