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A-ha awards
FYI, the awards aren't suited to a stand-alone article. You should instead incorporate them (with proper citations) as a brief text section in the main article. Cheers. --Ckatzchatspy 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Help me with the a-ha awards article. I've cleaned it up but i still want som help from a person who knows about these awards. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 15:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 19:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Where they nominated for Favorite Pop/Rock Band/Duo/Group. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 19:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the different awards. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 20:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Do you know any nominatins for the band. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 10:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
CfD nomination of Morten Harket solo awards
I have nominated Category:Morten Harket solo awards ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:Morten Harket ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Doctormanhattan (talk) 03:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
That was my initial thought, but I was unable to do it. The award boxes got mixed up with the other info boxes on the Morten Harket page. When that is said, I don't think there is any problem in having a different page for the awards. The band a-ha wich Morten is the vocalist of also has this. Mortyman (talk) 13:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I've fixed the page. And all award pages should be named List of artist/band Awards. --Black On High (talk) 11:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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a-ha discography
Add sources and most and the official Brazillian certification site sais thats wrong and add sources. And when i say add sources i mean the different chart positions, i'm goin to delete all the chart positions if you're not adding sources. And this is the official certification site for Brazilian certifications. [1]. --Black On High (talk) 11:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
First of all the discography site is not made by me, so if you want to delete it entirely, then you should speak to the author, not me. I have made some corrections regarding the Brasilian certifications. The reason for this is that the numbers on the official site is based on the new system of certification in Brazil. The type of award you get for selling these kind of numbers has changed, since a-ha receaved their award. So it's a question of wether whe should state the award that a-ha actually got in 80's or what it would have been if they had gotten it today. An exaple: a-ha sold atleast 600 000 copies of Stay On These Roads album. When they received their award for this back in the late 80's, they receaved after calculating using the old system. They got double platinum. With the new system, they would have gotten Diamond and then some. The source used, WAS added, but in the " edit this page " section. I am not aware of how one add's the source, wich is why I asked in the edit page someone to add it. Mortyman (talk) 11:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
a-ha
The band's own website cannot be considered reliable here as it is self-published. There is no peer reviewing of the band's website and it could be argued that the band would increase claims of their owns sales to promote themselves. I don't see why Berlinista can be considered a reliable source either. 22:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- So? How does that translate to 80 million sales worldwide? indopug (talk) 22:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, you don't need to source every bit of information, only contentious information per our verifiability policy. Sales figures are certainly contentious. When you find an appropriate, reliable source that says that a-Ha sold 80 million worldwide, add the information. As for the population thing, its very trivial, and was already removed by another editor just before my edit. indopug (talk) 23:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Everyone is claiming that Elvis Presley has sold a billion records" Please stop making ridiculous arguments that are irrelevant to this discussion; I don't even know what you're trying to say. Anyway, I don't see the relation of those 600,000 copies sold for that one album either to claims that they sold 80 million. I guess you can add that 600k sales figure to the appropriate album page. indopug (talk) 23:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, you don't need to source every bit of information, only contentious information per our verifiability policy. Sales figures are certainly contentious. When you find an appropriate, reliable source that says that a-Ha sold 80 million worldwide, add the information. As for the population thing, its very trivial, and was already removed by another editor just before my edit. indopug (talk) 23:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Its Indopug, Drewcifer300, Tenacious D Fan and many more and a newspaper is always goin to be more reliable then a french website with the name http://aha-fr.com/discographie.php so don't remove, but if you find a reliable source instead of discussing this with me it you had probably found a source for it now. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Another thing to consider, is that even thoguh let's say Hunting High and Low was released in 1985, it has sold also after that. No one here is gonna tell me that the album has'nt sold in the USA after it's got its innitial certification in 85 / 86. So the 1 million number should be taken with a pinch of salt. Same with the UK and all other countries. Old albums continue to sell, as new albums are released. To base discography on the innitial certifications the got amny, many years ago is silly.
Their first 3 albums has also been released as a 3 pack. That is also something to take into consideration.
Also much of the sales go through such channels as Amazon and Play. does these sales get registered ?
Mortyman (talk) 14:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Should sales of the soundtrack including a-ha's contribution here be added to the discography ?
How does this work ?
a-ha has also had their songs feautured on other soundtracks and compilations.
Mortyman (talk) 21:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- To answear your question, yes look at the Pearl Jam discography or Soundgarden discography. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 13:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- The cover is not by the artist so no. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 23:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Found a-ha's sales number thought you should know cause your all hanged up in it. See a-ha discography. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- One of the sources is Norwegian which sais the album has sold a total of 11 million copies and you can't trust homepages. Look at the cranberries homepage. Everything is false, i've checked it myself on the RIAA if the certifications are right. What i'm trying to say is that most artist sais they have sold more records and singles then they have. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 14:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- If the sales numbers are so importent for you find a reliable source instead on goin on my nerves and why can't you listen
jackass, i don't make the rules on wikipedia so don't argue with me okay and please stop complaining your enoying theshitout of me. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 15:00, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- If the sales numbers are so importent for you find a reliable source instead on goin on my nerves and why can't you listen
Be Black Hole Sun, I agree that this obsession with sales figures in the a-ha article (not to mention several others—have you ever taken a look at the Cher discography?!) is disconcerting from the standpoint of a music lover, ridiculous from the standpoint of a rational human being with any understanding of the music business, and unacceptable from the standpoint of an editor. Unacceptable from the standpoint of Wiki policy, however, is to engage in such blatant name-calling and profanity as you have here. I think both you and Mortyman need to take a step back from the article, and this issue, and chill out a bit before progressing. Abrazame (talk) 07:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Re: a-ha awards
Feel free to re-add them then. I didn't think they were very notable so I removed them. I am not currently working on the article which is why I am trying to focus on the ones I am working on right now. Gary King (talk) 03:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- I removed all of those awards again, why!. Well you don't need all of those awards and second you are missing nominations. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 11:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- I added them back on again, as I don't see how you have any superior reason to dictate anyone what is an important award or not. As for lack of info regarding certain nominations, it is regrettable that this info is not available, due to age, however nominations are really irrelevant, as the list is first and foremost a list of awards won. As one of the main author of this page, I would appreciate that you respect my desicion to include the awards added and not argue any further on this issueMortyman (talk) 20:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- NO NO NO NO, you don't all of those awards, Bryan Adams has won more awards then a-ha but i don't add all of them to the list, why no good reason to add them all. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 13:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I see no reason to bring Bryan Adams into this discussion. What problem do you really have on this ? Does it really bother you that much, that you have to delete what other people are adding ? This is not your personal venture you know. I see no reason why we can't include the awards. I don't see how it can bother anyone. On a different note, a-ha receaved 8 MTV awards in 1986, not 6 like the article mentioned in the nr awards won window after you had reverted it back. Now can we please just end this silly discussion here. You don't have any better reason to delete them. Adding as many awards as possible only makes the article more informative and THAT is what Wikipedia is for. INFORMATION. Mortyman (talk) 03:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
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Posting rumors on wikipedia
Hello. Thank you for your post. I agree in general that publishing rumors like these isn't a problem so long as it is stated that they are rumors. However not on wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Here we include information known to be true. Two of the core principles of wikipedia are that added information must comply with Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research. Even if rumors and personal opinions are stated to the press and published by them. They are not verifiable. Inge (talk) 19:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Re: The article " Sniper " and mention of Norwegian specialforces
I see that the info I posted regarding the range of one shot fired by a Norwegian specialforces soldier and the source of this info has been labelled with " [unreliable source?] ".
The info is correct and the article is siting sources within the Norwegian armed forces. The insident has actually been under investigation in Norway. Not because of the range of the shot, but because of the ammo used. it is normally not intended for soft human targets. If there was any false info regarding the range, I'm sure that that also would have been adressed. This source is in Norwegain, but I don't see how that can be a negativity to the article. If we were only to site English sources and regard that as the only truth in the world, then we would all have a serious problem. Please remove the label. Mortyman (talk) 01:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, I tagged the statement with {{verify credibility}} because the website that the info came from seemed very suspiciously full of ads and seemed similar to that of an interactive blog of some sort. However at your request, I will remove the tag. Sorry if I have caused any problems, but another citation from a different source (preferably English) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again! WinterSpw (talk) 05:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
A-ha at Rock in Rio
Don't be childish. There's no such thing as "It is indisputable", since you're obviously working from the point of a view of a fan who wants to see your idols in a good light. First of all, I happen to be Brazilian. I happen to have been there. Guns n'Roses played for over 120.000 people on January 20th, a Sunday, third day of the festival. O Globo, Brazil's number 2 newspaper (and Rio de Janeiro's number 1), states that and also states it was the festival's biggest audience. Unfortunately, I only have the newspaper clipping and not an electronic file here with me, but will work on that if it's necessary to stop with your insistence (it's in Portuguese, but I guess you'll be able to understand the numbers).
Anyway, all this is beside the point since it wasn't a single performance. a-ha played at the second-to-last day of Rock in Rio 2. It was a huge event which mobilized the whole city and, as hard as it is for you to understand that, NOT EVERYONE WAS THERE BECAUSE OF YOUR FAVORITE BAND. Nenhum de Nós, Engenheiros do Hawaii, Information Society, Debbie Gibson, Paulo Ricardo and Happy Mondays also performed that day. There were fans to all of these artists, plus the ones who just wanted the Rock in Rio experience, as it is common in events like these. The ticket stub doesn't say "a-ha plus special guests". It says "Rock in Rio 2". You can't possibly contact every single one of those people and ask them which artist brought them to Maracanã that day. So your claim is simply unverifiable. Besides, if Guinness doesn't publish the record anymore, it means it doesn't stand anymore. So there. JimboB (talk) 14:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
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a-ha
Please refrain from inserting sales figures with support of You Tube which is not regarded as reliable. Please see WP:RSE which clearly states YouTube and other video-sharing sites are not reliable sources because anyone can create or manipulate a video clip and upload without editorial oversight, just as with a self-published website. Please be advised that future continuous insertions of the footage as a source will constitute edit-warring and will be treated as such. Regards.--Harout72 (talk) 20:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- I have not ignored any policy. Yes the policy states that Youtube are not NESSERELY reliable sources, BUT CAN BE USED if the source can be traced back to a reliable source. The video in question is an offical promo video distributed by recordlabel in all markets where a-ha's recent album was released. The video comes in several languages and content in my view can not be questioned. Sales figures are in general a difficult subject to handle, as sales figures are rarely uppdated, rarely follow a common source and is often counted in various ways in various countries. Rrecordlabels rarely give insight in their artists accounts on this matter. The numbers that various media reports on usually comes from recordlabels and therefore media and what recordlabels says are just as reliable sources than anything else. Mortyman (talk) 20:43, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
This video footage here that you used which states 70 million in sales cannot get any more unreliable than it is. If you have doubts, then I suggest you to post a question regarding its reliability at WP:RSN and wait for other folks to submit their opinion on it. And yes, sales figures are a difficult subject in general to deal with, therefore, it is a good idea to refer to artists' available certified sales as I have gone over a-ha's certified sales here. It's quite clear that a-ha's actual sales is not remotely close to 70 million in sales. Perhaps close to 36 million albums and 15 million singles as stated by The Norway Post. As for statements by record labels regarding record sales, I would not immediately assume they are true, because record companies are in business to make their artists as impressive as they can by applying numerous marketing tools including inflated sales figures.--Harout72 (talk) 21:08, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
::: Sales are only certified at the request of artist / reordlabel,
so the numbers that you refer to are not nesseserely more correct / uppdated / official than any other info. What about the video. why is it not reliable. You have alredy stated your WP:RSN issue with this issue, wich I have answered in my previous comment. Is there anything else I am missing about this video ?
Mortyman (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
What you are missing is the part where the wikipedia policy states in the first sentence YouTube and other video-sharing sites are not reliable sources because anyone can create or manipulate a video clip and upload without editorial oversight, just as with a self-published website. And the 70 million in sales which appears in the footage qualifies the footage for the very category of the videos which policy warns. In other words, the sales figure on there could very easily be added by anyone. While I realize that there is a fee involved in certifying the records, it doesn't necessarily mean that most of the records go without being certified, there is only a small fraction of releases which reach the required certification-award level and don't get certified. In the end, certifications are more reliable way of weighing record sales than claimed sales figures.--Harout72 (talk) 21:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- No, you are missing the point... The promo video is an offical video from recordlabel SHOWN across Europe on TV. I know this for a fact. Are you seriously saying that this video was manipulated across all TV stations in Europe ? Youtube is one thing, but TV is a different issue. The video has ofcourse not been manipiulated for youtube. Mortyman (talk) 22:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Anyone, could record a footage on TV and than modify it by using different softwares and then upload the modified version on YouTube. Therefore, as I initially suggested, you should post it at WP:RSN and see for yourself what others apart from me might say. The fact and the matter is that the reliability of the video is questionable. And regardless of whether you claim that it's an official video across Europe or not, it doesn't change the fact that if I questioned the reliability of the video, then, it could be questioned by many others too. And that's exactly why we should follow the policy rather than insisting on claiming that it's an official video, which, in no way, serves as a proof.--Harout72 (talk) 22:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- With all due respect, you are starting to become a tad bit ridiculouse now. If everyone are gonna be as paranoid as you, we can just say that any info out there is manipulated. Magazines, certifications, videos etc. Your misstrust must stop somewhere. It is obvious that the video is official and original. The video also comes in various languages with same info
From Universals official German youtube section ( pop24 is the username for Universal Germany official youtube section. You can click on the username if you want to. ), you will find the video in both English and German version under upploads : http://www.youtube.com/user/pop24#p/u/77/Wcd5ZkQS3dY
English:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcd5ZkQS3dY
German
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBHW4HnXYhg
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List of best-selling music artists
Please refrain inserting a-ha to the list with source by YouTube as it cannot be regarded as reliable. Please read up WP:RSE, it clearly states YouTube and other video-sharing sites are not reliable sources because anyone can create or manipulate a video clip and upload without editorial oversight, just as with a self-published website. In some cases, video clips published on YouTube may be acceptable as primary sources if their authenticity can be confirmed, or as a secondary source if they can be traced to a reliable publisher, but even then should be used with caution. They may also be used as a convenience link for material originally published elsewhere. Be careful not to link to material that is a copyright violation.--Harout72 (talk) 23:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Norway
I have reverted your addition there. We need reliable, secondary sources for such claims (this and that are biggest success, are representative of Norwegian music, etc.), even if they seem obvious. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 01:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
- The source was good enough. It is one of the larger news and media groups min Norway. I have now added several sources, including the official Norwegian film commmician. Mortyman (talk) 18:53, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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- Thank you for alerting me. I undid your revision and added a source in the form of a link to the Norweegian government's website and an article on the matter. The article says 10 million Norwegian Kroner wich is today about 1, 6 million USD, but back then 1,8. Thank you Mortyman (talk) 20:45, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Awards section in Norwegian Air Shutte
Could you please provide me of a few examples of airline articles here on Wiki with Awards Sections? I have not seen any previously. And the categorization of it as encyclopaedic content is questionable as the article about NAS have been written with content taken directly from the PR Website of Norwegian Air Shuttle as late as last spring. That is why it is, at least in my opinion, suspicious to include an Awards section. Thanks.
JHZ94 11:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- A few Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Baltic#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonair#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Airlines#Awards_and_honors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyWest_Airlines#Awards_and_Recognition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Airways#Awards_and_achievements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Airlines#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SriLankan_Airlines#Awards_and_achievements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegean_Airlines#Awards_and_recognition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Berlin#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Center#Awards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOT_Polish_Airlines#Awards
As for the article being written as an add ... well it might be, but I think you will find that a lot of pages for companies are that way. That is not my fault. No reason to blame me and don't see what the point was to bring that into the discussion. I also like to point out that my award material was sourced. I will add it back on Do not remove. Mortyman (talk) 23:15, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Okey, Tusen takk! Then it's fine. I did just remember the edits of a certain user (User:Naigenors) which made me quite thoughtful. I'll don't remove it. JHZ94 12:08, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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- Your edit is reverted. The sources are more than good enough and he has been inducted in the Scandinavian-American Hall of Fame. It is well known that he has Norwegian roots and that he has been several times to Norway, visiting the old family farm. If you seriously want to pursue this even further, then make an official case. Mortyman (talk) 00:53, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
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- I still don't get what youir problem is. What about the info I added is false / unsourced ? It's already on the pages from earler posed by someone else. I just put the various subsidiaries, fleet numbers and bases into a table. Furthermore, you will find similare tables made for other airlines. Take Avianca for instance who has a table for their subsidiaries and number of routes. Please explain your actions. They are totally out of bounds ! Mortyman (talk) 15:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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- This is not acceptable. Reliable source ? what is that ?? Just because it's in Norwegian it's not reliable ? I do not accept this desicion. Please add it back on. The source is more than reliable. Here is the photo of the article from Flight International in English: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10159656253848109&set=gm.4544522642241096 and https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&insightstoken=bcid_RKiZEYIR0DID5Z7kpKPXWJGM2IMp.....0M*ccid_qJkRghHQ&form=ANCMS1&iss=SBIUPLOADGET&selectedindex=0&id=%E2%88%921008285807&ccid=qJkRghHQ&exph=600&expw=424&vt=3&sim=11&cal=0.05&cab=0.95&cat=0.05&car=0.95 Mortyman (talk) 14:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Mortyman: Hi, see here for Wikipedia's definition of a reliable source. The reference given in your edit ([2]) wasn't in Norwegian, it was a link to a copy of the wikipedia article for Busy Bee hosted, without attribution, on hpedc.org. You didn't mention that article (which appears to be in English?), but that may be a better reference for the text. Beevil (talk) 09:04, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- This is not acceptable. Reliable source ? what is that ?? Just because it's in Norwegian it's not reliable ? I do not accept this desicion. Please add it back on. The source is more than reliable. Here is the photo of the article from Flight International in English: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10159656253848109&set=gm.4544522642241096 and https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&insightstoken=bcid_RKiZEYIR0DID5Z7kpKPXWJGM2IMp.....0M*ccid_qJkRghHQ&form=ANCMS1&iss=SBIUPLOADGET&selectedindex=0&id=%E2%88%921008285807&ccid=qJkRghHQ&exph=600&expw=424&vt=3&sim=11&cal=0.05&cab=0.95&cat=0.05&car=0.95 Mortyman (talk) 14:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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The instructions at Template:Infobox musical artist#associated_acts sets a high bar to inclusion. The listed artists must have collaborated with a-ha multiple times, with significant media attention. You added, for instance, Graham Nash who sang backing vocals on two minor album tracks and was never featured—he never received star billing. Thanks for your attention. Binksternet (talk) 04:06, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
This video looks sourceable to me. She answers a lot of questions that many readers here probably have. Should I paraphrase her answers and include them all? No. That would allow citing all interviews, and before we know it, half of the citations on Olsen's article are YouTube videos. Please do not revert again. Thanks. KyleJoantalk 17:14, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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- This response of your is totally unessesery. I have made my comments in the edit section when I have reverted. That should be enough to explain why I do what I do. Furthermore, Morten Harket has played in several Norwegian films and he has also been judge on Norwegian The Voice (franchise). Again, I don't see how you can question me adding actor and TV personality to occupatiuon. Furthermore he is also a producer of several of both his solo songs and A-ha's songs. what he is most famous for should be totally irrelevant. His various endavours should be lsited under occupations Mortyman (talk) 20:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- This response of your is totally unessesery. I have made my comments in the edit section when I have reverted. That should be enough to explain why I do what I do. Furthermore, Morten Harket has played in several Norwegian films and he has also been judge on Norwegian The Voice (franchise). Again, I don't see how you can question me adding actor and TV personality to occupatiuon. Furthermore he is also a producer of several of both his solo songs and A-ha's songs. what he is most famous for should be totally irrelevant. His various endavours should be lsited under occupations Mortyman (talk) 20:21, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Harkett is famous for singing and songwriting. Everything else he does is related to that. He is not famous for producing, even though he has produced some of his own songs. He is not famous as a "musician" because he is not hired to play an instrument. He is not famous as an actor even though he has appeared in two minor character roles in three minor films. When he appears on TV as himself, that does not count as acting.
- I gave you a harsh warning because you reverted three times and if you reverted again you would be blocked. The warning was necessary to make you stop and consider your actions. Binksternet (talk) 22:42, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Source added. Look under the mentioned song in the source Mortyman (talk) 14:39, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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- The source material is the A-ha True North CD itself. it is directly from the liner / credits notes. Mortyman (talk) 21:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- Without a citation it's unsourced. Read WP:V. Sundayclose (talk) 23:18, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- The info is not online unfortuently. Mortyman (talk) 23:29, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Then I assume that this source is acceptable. Please confirm : https://www.discogs.com/release/24892877-a-ha-True-North Mortyman (talk) 23:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Undid revision and source added. Please get back to me if there is a problem with this source.Mortyman (talk) 21:35, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Then I assume that this source is acceptable. Please confirm : https://www.discogs.com/release/24892877-a-ha-True-North Mortyman (talk) 23:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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a-ha discography
Hello. Regarding your edits this month to a-ha discography, television appearances, appearances of a-ha's songs on soundtracks and especially books (a bibliography) do not belong on a discography. This is getting into WP:NOT territory, where you're trying to shoehorn all sorts of information that is either trivial or only interests a small portion of an audience onto a discography as a catch-all for everything a-ha has made or appeared in. This is not what a discography is for, and you have also provided unreliable (a-ha fansites) or user-generated sourcing (setlist.fm), which fails WP:USERG. Either you should start a-ha's bibliography page, or try and include some of it with better sourcing on their main article, but it does not belong on a discography. Thanks. Ss112 00:32, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. If you look at the Beatles discography, they have a Documentaries section where documentaries, but also concerts that has been on TV etc is listed. No different than what I was trying to do : The Beatles discography#Other appearances . On Paul McCartneys discography you will find a list of soundtracks, film and TV series his music has been in. I do not see why I can't make such a list for A-Ha Paul McCartney discography#Soundtracks and other appearances . As for sources, I try to use uppdated sources, but as A-ha is a Norwegian band, not everything is in english. Their nationality can not be held against them. Please revert your deletion. Mortyman (talk) 02:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- As for other discography articles, you are resorting to whataboutism as an argument. Wikipedia articles are not perfect—there's always going to be other examples of bad practices on this website. That doesn't mean they should be on those articles either. I know for a fact McCartney's discography attracts a lot of fancruft as well; it's not perfect and you shouldn't say "but this other article has this on it too" because if it's relevant information but not part of a discography, it should most likely be separated from those discographies too, or removed if it's unsourced/a fancruft list. What's happening on McCartney's discography is a lot more thought out than you simply listing what films "Take on Me" was used in, and resorting to using poor sourcing for it.
- I didn't say anything about sources being in a different language. You used unreliable sources regardless of their language. Setlist.fm should not be used as it is user-generated (which fails WP:USERG), and fansites fall under WP:BLOG—anybody can start a fansite or a blog and claim things. It doesn't make them a source we should use. I didn't say anything about sites being in Norwegian. Besides the information you added being fancruft, those are not reliable sources per WP:RS and I suggest you read our policies around reliable sources before adding more sources to articles in future.
- Regarding your recent edits to a-ha discography, please avoid adding certifications for countries that do not have charts listed on the article per WP:DISCOGSTYLE. That includes Brazil, Spain and Hong Kong certifications. They should be listed on the album articles directly if they are reliably sourced. Thank you. Ss112 04:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding certifications ... Those are SUGGESTED guidelines only. Please revert your edits. Mortyman (talk) 12:10, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- No. All guidelines are "suggestions" as they are not policies—see WP:POLICY. There would never be a policy about discography content. This practice is widely followed and no decent discography lists certifications for countries without charts on the page. a-ha should not be the exception just because you want to stuff the article with everything they've ever achieved. You still need to read WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Wikipedia's articles are not intended to be an exhaustive list of everything related to a topic; they have a scope and limits. The limit here is not overstuffing their certifications with countries not represented with charts present because then there'd be no limit and we'd be listing 20 certifications and making the cells for their albums incredibly long, unwieldy and unfriendly for readers to read/scan. Ss112 05:36, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding certifications ... Those are SUGGESTED guidelines only. Please revert your edits. Mortyman (talk) 12:10, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
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