Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 50
- Date: Sunday 23 June 2024
- Time: midday to 2pm
- Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
IMPORTANT: The first person joining the meeting needs to sign in as the "Moderator" using a Google, Facebook, or GitHub account; other attendees can then join without any authentication - see the jitsi blog for more information.
NOTE: This video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free. - Cost: Free
Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference
All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Universal Code of Conduct.
This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.
Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.
If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:
- Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
- If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
- If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
- If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.
If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.
If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.
Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on
The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.
Future meetups
This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.
Apply for membership of Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.
Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians. Also wikidata:Wikidata talk:WikiProject New Zealand over on wikidata.
People
Attending
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- Ambrosia10 (talk)
- DrThneed (talk) 21:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Marshelec (talk)
- Prosperosity (talk)
- Beeswaxcandle (talk)
- MargaretRDonald (talk)
- Oronsay (talk)
- Tayste (talk)
- Alexeyevitch(talk) (in and out briefly to say Kia ora and add some notes)
Unable to come
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- Jon (talk)
- Paora (talk)
- Stuartyeates (talk)
- David Nind (tramping)
- Einebillion (talk)
Agenda and notes
Introduction to meet up by organisers
Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand – update and discussion (15 minutes)
Update from President, WANZ
Update from Treasurer, WANZ
The Wikimedia Foundation have agreed to the 2024-2025 funding proposal and will allocate funds to WANZ. The committee has good plans to spend this money including a Wikimedian in residence programme at the Auckland War Memorial Museum. but it should also reinforce that editors should consider when undertaking projects or outreach that it is worth while making funding applications to WANZ to support travel, events, conference attendance etc. The committee have a responsibility to deploy it to the best effect as we don’t have to give it back. On that note the last funding application was not fully spent this year. Given WANZ maturity the unspent funds are being placed into an operating reserve. The committee has also recently published 2023 performance report See this link. Renewal of membership fees for WANZ. We currently have 30ish members, please renew your membership, feel free to become a member and think about whom might want to join as a member.
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2024
- If you're an event organiser, don't forget to add your event as a program to the Campaign Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard you can find further information here on how to create a new event dashboard and how to link it to the overall campaign dashboard. Alternatively contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page for help.
- If you're interested in organising a Wiki event, Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ) provides support funding. Contact admin @ wikimedia.nz for more information on how to apply. It's really simple - we promise!
- May 2024 ESEAP Conference in Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia Any report back?
- #1Lib1Ref - Giantflightlessbirds did outreach to Christchurch Art Gallery, Te Papa has held two prep sessions and will be holding a staff session on the 29th of May.
- Auckland Meetup #25, Saturday 6 July 2024, 10:00 am – 12:00 pm at New Lynn War Memorial Library Went well, three in room with another attending virtually. Wifi was a bit dodgy but notes were taken on the meeting on the meetup page.
- Online WikiProject IBC 2024 Introduction to Wikidata, Tuesday 9 July 2024 9pm - 10pm NZST. Although botany focused it is open to anyone interested in getting started with Wikidata. See this link to register. We will be helping people create an account, how to activate helpful gadgets and show folk how to create a Wikidata item for a botanist, add statements, qualifiers, references and links to external databases. We will show some tools such as the author disambiguation tool and Scholia. We'll point folk to helpful editing training resources and if we have time edit a botanical taxon item. We are planning on recording this session.
- 13 July 2024 Te Papa Expeditions Event. The event will be at Te Papa from 10am until 4pm, see the event page for more details.
- 7–10 August 2024 Wikimania in Katowice, Poland
- 16–18 May 2025 Aotearoa WikiCon 2025 Christchurch
- Content: New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreadsheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this during #1Lib1Ref. There is also a video on how to add thesis to people's pages. This work is ongoing and could use more editors to help out. Mix'n'match dataset.
- Project Contacts: DrThneed
- 23 November 2024, Wikicon Australia 2024 One-day conference to be held in Adelaide. The theme is First Nations but all contributions whether in person or online are welcome. Make submissions via the page link or contact MargaretRDonald
- Content: New Zealand National Parks Project launched with the goal of bringing the articles of the 14 national parks up to Good Article status. Sign up if you want to help.
- Interop: PRIMO (the library catalog front-end used by many NZ unis and NLNZ) has rolled out authority control using LCCN and wikidata / wikipedia. Some work is ongoing, see wikidata:Wikidata:ExLibris-Primo. To enable this functionality add LCCN ("Library of Congress authority ID") to person items in wikidata that are linked to en.wiki articles. Turnaround for updates is ~ a week.
Anyone know of or organising any other events or content projects? Note here to let the group know.
Round table for participants
Opportunity to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated. You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want
- Ambrosia10 - WikiProject Te Papa research expeditions The first of two editathons focusing on this Wikiproject has been held. This was a Te Papa staff editing event and was very successful. New editors were trained and experienced editors made good progress in enriching the stub articles created in anticipation of the event. See for example the Cook Bicentenary Expedition article. The dashboard can be found here. The next editathon is public facing and will be held on the 13th of July at Te Papa from 10am until 4pm so please save the date! Here is the event page with information on training, resources and a dashboard.
- Wikimania - I've had three abstracts accepted for Wikimania and so have been working on my presentations. The three topics are WikiProject International Botanical Congress, the Women Genera project and the Hidden Figures CURE project. I'll of course be uploading my slides into Wikicommons and I understand the presentations will be recorded. Wikimania registration is open soon so for those interested in attending virtually watch out for this.
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Arctesthes_siris_male.jpg/220px-Arctesthes_siris_male.jpg)
- WikiProject IBC 2024 - This conference and our outreach is rapidly approaching. We're currently drafting up a conference poster which hopefully should be complete by the end of next week. We're also holding a virtual onboarding session introducing people to Wikidata. Although it is botany focused anyone can attend. The date: Tuesday 9th July at 9pm NZST (GMT+12) / 11 am central Europe and here is the link to register. Stitchbird2 has been amazing as she's also preparing for the IBC congress as well as organising the printing of bookmarks funded by WANZ for participants in our in person workshop. S.v.mering has been obtaining other swag from Wikimedia Germany for participants. I'm still working on wikifying the conference, enriching the existing participant Wikidata items but leaving those participants yet to have a Wikidata to have their items created during the workshop.
- BHL-Wiki working group - The monthly meeting of the BHL-Wiki working group has recently been held. I'm the Chair of that group and we've been making progress on create documents for modelling structured data on commons for BHL illustrations, particularly those illustrations that are also on Flickr as well as documentation on how to model type specimen items in Wikidata. To see the BHL-Working group agenda, meeting notes and recordings see this link. If anyone in New Zealand is interested in participating you would be very welcome to attend our meetings. I'll be creating a short monthly highlights report to BHL and will use this when I update the GLAMwiki newsletter with our news on work being undertaken by this group. I had a recent meeting with Wikimedia Foundation folk as they are keen to include more engagement aims with the BHL-Wiki working group as well as the WikiProject Biodiversity group in their annual report. I'm also going to be meeting with Wikimedia Foundation folk, Flickr foundation folk, User:Spinster and others to discuss the type of data we would like to come from Flickr into Wikicommons via the Flickypeadia tool.
- SPNHC/TDWG 2024 - I've received notification from WANZ that my funding application has been accepted and so have been organising my travel and accommodation. The conference organisers have accepted my abstract to present on the Te Papa Research Expeditions project and I'm in the process of drafting up an extended abstract for publication.
- Open Education Global Conference 2024 - I've accepted an offer to keynote at the Open Education conference in Brisbane in November 2024. The theme is "Open Is Everyone's Business" and I'm going to be meeting with the organisers next week to discuss my keynote with them. In emails they have expressed the desire to emphasis that openness is not only the purview of librarians, education designers and faculty but also the broader community. I believe I'm going to be representing the "broader community".
- Wikipedia - so I admit sometimes I get a bit down that I'm doing all this outreach work and very little actual editing. So I downed tools for one day and edited a moth article in English Wikipedia on the endemic moth Arctesthes siris.
- Jon (talk) I've been editing trombone articles sporadically, in-between family health issues, and have just become the unworthy guardian of the truly staggering Trumpets and Other High Brass, a five volume set of beautifully illustrated and utterly comprehensive tomes from the US National Music Museum all about these instruments, with accompanying DVDs of expert players performing on museum specimens, by compliments of a very kind US benefactor and otherwise prohibitively unobtainable in New Zealand. I haven't even started yet but in terms of improving articles it is an absolute gold mine. Highlights in the last month are improving bass trombone; trying to dig up a WP:RS about the enormous octocontrabass saxophone; un-de-truthifying the apple crumble article; improve some of the NZ road articles and junction tables (e.g. Auckland Northern Motorway); create new Urban Route SVG sign images for the {{Jct}} template, and then tweaking it so we can now go
{{Jct|country=NZL|UR|31|name1=Hibiscus Coast Highway}}
to getRoute 31 (Hibiscus Coast Highway)
- DrThneed
- Oronsay matched lots of the Māori writers in Kōromako Māori writers database, for our new identifier, and I've created a Mixnmatch catalogue for the rest (https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/catalog/6355). (There was a discussion with Oronsay about her work and whether she should pause this until the mix'n'match catalogue has been finished. DrThneed said to keep on editing and linking people and the mix'n'match will eventually catch up. Dr Thneed recommends Match mode in mix'n'match as it helps emphasise those people who need a Wikidata item to be created as they have multiple identifier databases with identifiers for them.)
- Still keeping nose above water with #1woman1day - 174 start level pages this year. I have conflicts of interest with some people I know on the list, if anyone is keen to cover them (Louise Parr-Brownlie, Tammy Steeves, Hazel Chapman, Emma Wyeth, Dorothy Oorschot - their Wikidata items are linked from my worklist here and the template I use is here)
- Thesis project - chugging along, much advisor matching this month (just under 1000 unmatched advisors now).
- Stuartyeates (talk) Transferring ethnicity data between wikipedia cat and wikidata items for people. Working on a query to give institutions info on their own people from wikidata. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oronsay Kōmako author ID update: 359 now added to Wikidata, of which 299 have en-wiki articles. Found a few that she will create via NZ Thesis Project MnM. There will be more matches before she gives up. Preparing name lists for Franklin Women editathons in Sydney and Canberra next month. With Canley added the Oz King's Birthday Honours on en-wiki and to Wikidata. Have been assisting with the Wikidata:WikiProject Library and Information Science/Work in Progress, mostly Wikidata for indexers and librarians in Australia, NZ and worldwide. Having some sports stub articles sent to AfD or PRODed – they're Olympians but that in itself doesn't give notability which varies from sport to sport. Feel the deletionists will have their way so not worth working hard to find and add refs and info that won't be enough to meet notability standards. Also the usual gardening.
- Marshelec has been working on a variety of Wikipedia projects, including major expansion of Bushy Park (New Zealand) - a great little reserve that is a remnant lowland forest, and has a pest-exclusion fence so that it is now a bird sanctuary. I have also continued work on Foveaux Strait, and begun preparing a separate list article for the List of shipwrecks in Southland. Also made improvements to Farewell Spit and Kaikōura. Today I have updated some articles related to the Cook Strait ferries: Interislander and the current issue with DEV Aratere.
- Prosperosity (talk) - He's been working on the Wikidata portion of the National Parks project. Currently only two national parks left to do Wikidata work on, clean up locations etc. He's noticed that there are numerous German language articles on New Zealand content that don’t have an English language equivalents so has been translating them. So there are a lots more English Wikipedia articles appearing thanks to the work done by the Germans.
- Beeswaxcandle (talk) - Working in Wikisource doing the Cheeseman manual of NZ flora, he's over 3/5th of the way through. Boring grasses coming up and then ferns! Defended a few articles from editors who have been adding images of "generative equipment". Also been working on The Adventures of Kimble Bent. David and he have been collaborating.
- Alexeyevitch(talk) - has been working on the Christchurch suburbs - some of them need new images, they need to find batteries for my camera (They don't like taking photos with my phone, they think the colors the camera produces look better it is also higher quality). In terms of the Opawa article there needs to be two more images added (one in the infobox and one in the education section). This isn't just a boring old suburb of Christchurch. They want to do a bit more work in the article before they would like push it up to a GA nomination. They think the Foveaux Strait article is already a 'good' example of what a strait article should be. They aren't the primary author, Marshelec deserves credit for this article. They have also been importing aerial images from the CanterburyMaps website, the images have the CC-BY 3 license so they may be used in Wikipedia.
- Tayste (talk) - hasn't been doing that much but is keen to help out with other people’s projects. Asked whether the recent honours awards need help but others are pretty much on top of it. However DrThneed said there are some red links in the recent article for folk who need biographies if Tayste wants to have a look. Some National parks articles also need help. Have a look at the project page.
- MargaretRDonald (talk) - has being doing very little other than helping organise the Australia Wikicon 2024 to be held in Adalaide on November 23rd. The theme is First Nations. They are opening submissions live on the 30th of June. Although the conference is only one day she encourages people to apply for funding to come and put in submissions. Submissions are likely to be able to presented virtually. in other news Wikimedia Australia commissioned a report focusing on Understanding First Nations peoples’ experiences using Wikipedia as readers and/or editors. It makes for interesting reading but in her view some of the recommendations given in the report aren’t workable.
Review of questions raised during round table
- Here is a link to a white paper I prepared in July 2023 about prioritisation of content initiatives. This considers the current quality and usefulness of importance ratings, page views etc. Perhaps this might be interesting reading for some who took part in discussion during this meetup. See: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16dtJgcxqL8SQISB9F-vQQK7PDQbgmMqR/view?usp=sharing Marshelec (talk) 01:28, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Here is a link to a report on articles linked to Wikiproject New Zealand, showing the top 1000 articles by 12 month page views. This report was run for me in January 2023 by Hal Triedman of WMF. [1] Marshelec (talk) 07:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Tayste asked a question on whether there is a list of Wikipedia articles that New Zealanders view most frequently. (see Marchelec comments above. See also New Zealand popular pages link.) This led on to a discussion about classification of articles and their importance rating. See the WikiProject New Zealand talk page visualisation. DrThneed pointed out that there doesn't appear to be well known criteria for importance assessment guidelines for articles that fall within WikiProject New Zealand remit. There is a general resource for content assessment but we couldn't find anything specific for NZ. She suggested that this be raised as a topic at the Aotearoa New Zealand WikiCon 2025 meeting.
- DrThneed, inspired by the National open repository for Japan, also discussed a possible project where the an open repository for a NZ university be "Wikidata-ified".
Outcomes
- Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
Next meeting and meetup timetables
- 21 July 2024, same time, same place