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I will be online briefly, if at all, most days until the second full week in August or until I prepare an hour-long talk and Power Point presentation for that week. A couple of other real life time constraints also may come into play during this time. Donner60 (talk) 00:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I have added a prioritized to do list to my user page. That may move along more slowly because of coordinator tasks or unanticipated editing that need more immediate attention. Posted 1 October 2023, now updated to note no progress at all on the list since then. Donner60 (talk) 00:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Please put comments or questions on new subjects at the very bottom of the page, use a new section heading, refer to the exact title of an article and sign your message with four tildes. If you send me an e-mail please leave a talk page notice. I am not always prompt at looking for new e-mails at the listed address. Donner60 (talk) 09:12, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please put new messages at the very bottom of the page. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC) To clarify, the new item should not be below this message and not below the repeated message after my introductory paragraphs but at the very bottom of the page after every other item on the page. It will help me to understand what you are talking about to add a section heading, identify the article you are concerned with (if your question or comment refers to a specific article), using a link, probably putting the article title in the heading, and sign your edit with four tildes (~~~~) so I know to whom to reply. Keep an eye on this page because I may just reply here if the answer is simple and does not seem to be time sensitive. When I notice an out of order question or comment, I will move it to the bottom of the page and provide a heading if there is none already. Donner60 (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
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I occasionally get one of these notices. I fix the link or bracket, then delete the message, as the messages state is permissible, instead of further cluttering up these pages. Donner60 (talk) 05:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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The American Civil War Barnstar | |
For all your excellent help with Gettysburg, Hobart Ward, Stonewall's arm, and many other articles. Hog Farm Talk 17:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC) |
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For your help in saving Battle of Gettysburg at GAR. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC) |
- Thanks! I was glad to help. The Battle of Gettysburg is such an important milestone in U.S. history that it should be kept to a good standard. Donner60 (talk) 02:18, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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For all the work you put in checking the military history writing contest entries. Hog Farm Talk 23:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC) |
- Thanks. It's something I can do for the project which relieves the frequent contributors from the task and can be spread out over a month. Donner60 (talk) 00:45, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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On behalf of the members of WikiProject Military history, in recognition of your election to the position of Coordinator, I take great pleasure in presenting you with the Coordinator's stars, and wish you the best of luck for the coming year! Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Donner60 (talk) 02:05, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (1 stripe) for participating in 2 reviews between October and December 2023. Hawkeye7 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space
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For your work reviewing the backlog of Italian Army articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Requests. Thank you! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks! At least 40 more to come soon. The editor has done a good job of bringing these up to B class. He will be posting the remainder in the near future. Donner60 (talk) 00:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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I was curious, seeing as I remembered you reviewing another article I did some work on, William Henry Harrison Seeley, so I decided to check the history of the Military History assessment requests section; of the past 500 edits made there, you contributed 348 of them. That to me is an absolutely incredible figure, and I think you definitely deserve this. CommissarDoggoTalk? 23:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks. Most of the articles put up for manual assessments are easy enough to review due to the many outstanding contributors that we have to the project. Most are interesting as well. Donner60 (talk) 23:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award
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This award is given in recognition to Donner60 for collecting more than 5 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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RE: Republic of China Marine Corps
Thank you for the comment and for taking a look at this article (and also for the Galicia Division article that you assessed a while ago). For the organization table, I think it will be best for me to go through and add citations for every individual unit, because there is not a single source that lists out everything on there on one page (from what I could find), but there are sources for the individual units. I will start on that soon, and I will reply to your note on the assessment page when I finish with this task. I don't think this will take long. Romanov loyalist (talk) 16:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (2 stripes) for participating in 4 reviews between January and March 2024. Hawkeye7 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 04:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space
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Salutations!
Donner60... It has been too long, my friend. I hope you're doing well, and that life is treating you with happiness and joy. We haven't spoken in quite some time (it's really my fault; work and life has gotten very busy for me). I was going through some old pages, saw your responses to me in many discussions, and I wanted to thank you for your support and to let you know that I was thinking about you... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Good to hear from you. I have spent my time recently as a coordinator for the military history project. Before that Huggle had gone haywire on me and my activity fell off when I could not get it to work. I then moved on to less activity in covid times which started about the same time. I have had covid twice but fortunately seem to have gotten over it without much, if anything, in the way of after effects - maybe some periodic fatigue could be related, I suppose. I resumed editing but not working on anti-vandalism except for a few brief instances that I came across. I started working more on military history project reviews, GA reassessments and some editing about a year ago. In the absence of enough volunteers, I agreed to be a military history project coordinator starting last September. I have spent almost all my time reviewing and assessing articles, monitoring the article writing contest and occasionally answering some questions. It has taken almost all of my online time so my to-do list has remained about as it was when I got more involved in the project. I have missed working and communicating with you and a few others whom I have lost contact with for a few years now. Since I am still active, I hope to keep up with online friends here more than I have been doing. Donner60 (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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Today's TFA, Felix M. Warburg House, was written by Vami_IV and Epicgenius, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gerda. I was shocked and saddened by Vami_IV's death, especially when I saw that he was so young. He was an outstanding contributor to Wikipedia and will be missed. Donner60 (talk) 18:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- yes, I remember the feeling of shock when I just saw the watch list entry -- today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics of places show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for improving articles in May! - Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Plum Point Bend
Could you have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators#ACRs for closure for me? This one needs closing. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Donner60 (talk) 23:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Bravo Zulu!
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G'day Donner60. Just popped by to say what a brilliant effort you have been making on checking the B-Class auto assessments. Thanks for all your work for the project! Warm regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
Thanks sent. Donner60 (talk) 01:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Donner60
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This award is for your heroic efforts over many months to review B-class military history articles. Djmaschek (talk) 03:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC) |
The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024
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Italian Army June 2024
Thank you for looking at the articles. As for me: not the war, but work kept me from continuing the work in wikipedia. I have more time now and will be back to continue to create articles for all Italian Army units. I fixed the missing references for the Regiment "Savoia Cavalleria" (3rd) and I wrote a longer introduction for the article. I will write longer introduction for the other four cavalry regiments as well. I already fixed the issue with the personnel of the Regiment "Genova Cavalleria" (4th), which as you correctly noted should be "those personnel". And: Captain Vannetti Donnini was the only Genova officer killed at Porta San Paolo. I reused text from the Regiment "Lancieri di Montebello" (8th) article, which suffered two officers killed in the same battle and did not properly edit it. I will finish with the cavalry intros next and then move to the aviation units. Cheers, and thank you, noclador (talk) 18:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I found the time away from work to fix the issues:
- Regiment "Genova Cavalleria" (4th) - fixed, longer intro, and now ready for review.
- 1st Army Aviation Regiment "Antares" - fixed missing citation, and now ready for review.
- 3rd Special Operations Helicopter Regiment "Aldebaran" - fixed missing citation, deleted the last two sections, as these were not by me and I do not think they add to the article, which is now ready for review.
- 4th Army Aviation Regiment "Altair" - fixed missing citation, and now ready for review.
- (In case of all three aviation regiments the source for the naming was at the beginning of the paragraph and not repeated at the end of the paragraph. An oversight on my part. I fixed this now also in the remaining Italian Army Aviation articles.)
- Thank you, and with best regards, noclador (talk) 23:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Again, glad to see you back. I know you want to finish the other Italian Army unit articles. I have rated these B class, and pinged you on the assessment request page. Donner60 (talk) 03:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
A class reviews
Would you consider closing Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Saipan and Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Tinian? Both have three supports + source and image reviews Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:41, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Assuming I did it right again this time. Donner60 (talk) 23:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. All fine. Bot has run. Thanks for that. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can we count these as June promotions? The bot time was 9 minutes after midnight UTC. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 00:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure. I have moved them from Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/August 2024/Articles to Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/July 2024/Articles. Nobody has started work on the JUly Bugle yet. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can we count these as June promotions? The bot time was 9 minutes after midnight UTC. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 00:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. All fine. Bot has run. Thanks for that. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024
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Assessment
Hi man. I see your an experienced editor and reviewer. I created Surface Fleet Review and was wanting to get it assessed so I have placed it at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment#Requests for assessment. I see its crossed out or something straight after I placed it there so im not quite sure what that means as I cant find a key for what to do. If you have any advice on the crossing-out thing or have any tips on the article I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks! DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 06:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you prefaced your request with a strike sympbol </s>. If a close strike symbol had been included, it would have made the strike through up to the point of that symbol. The complete absence of a close symbol resulted in the entire remainder of the page being struck, not just on the assessment request page but on the paragraphs that follow on the main assessment page. I have nowiki symbols before and after the strike symbol here which is the reason you don't see a strike through from that point to the end of the message.
- The next coordinator or experienced assessor who looked at the page likely would have been alert to the problem but I am glad you brought it up because it would not necessarily be obvious to everyone. The strike and end strike sympbols are placed on the page after an assessment is made and only the article name is within the symbols. Then a reply is posted and the user who posted the request is notified of the result. I will be removing the strike out on the assessment pages when I complete this message. Soon I or another assessor will review the article.
- It happens. I did something similar not long ago.
Donner60 (talk) 20:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
GA Nomination
Hi, i had put up Battle of Thorgo article for reassessment now that its a B-class article and can you suggest whether its ready for Good article nomination since it's expansion has been completed with no further possible expansion and what it appears to me that it fulfills the criteria for GAN. Rahim231 (talk) 10:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Rahim: Here is my opinion and comments for what they are worth. When I see a good and complete B-class article for military history, I think it is probably ready for GA. Be aware that even though I think your article falls into this class, I don't do GA assessments. This is in large part because I have reviewed many of the articles that are put up for GA for B class and the military history standards are similar for B. Of course, the GA assessment is independent. So it should be done by a different assessor. If your article was not as complete as it is, it still might have been B but would need to be expanded for GA. I would have noted that much if you had asked about such an aritcle.
- It is hard for me to predict what a GA assessor might want but I would be surprised if much was asked of you for it to be promoted to GA. (I have worked on a few GA reassessments if I have sources and usually if only some citations are needed or minimal expansion is needed. In a reassessment since the article had been assessed GA, in at least some cases, it can be kept GA. If one or a few editors who have some time and enough sources are confident they can improve the article, it stay as GA.) Donner60 (talk) 08:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment, I will be nominating this article for GA review. Rahim231 (talk) 20:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 220, August 2024
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