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:{{u|Nebzpogi}}, I strongly suggest you retract '''your''' [[WP:NLT|threat of legal action]] lest you be blocked. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu 🐲</span>]] ( [[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]] ) ([[User:Tenryuu#Wishlist!|🎁 <span style="color: red;">''Wishlist!''</span> 🎁]]) 03:46, 17 December 2020 (UTC) |
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December 14
Publicar / añadir contenido
Saludos,
¿Cómo puedo añadir datos a esta tabla sobre un modelo que he estado trabajando? La tabla se encuentra en este link https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporada_de_huracanes_en_el_Atlántico_de_2020?fbclid=IwAR3cX_5DxKwvv-FDZgXtGvpHx-Oy_UEK06oyirnESpMCpBc0N35SkYjJbjc#:~:text=La%20temporada%20de%20huracanes%20del,desde%20que%20comenzaron%20los%20registros.&text=%E2%80%8B%20Con%2030%20tormentas%20tropicales%20o%20subtropicales
Y es Predicciones de la actividad tropical en la temporada de 2020.
Gracias, Espero su contestación — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivan802 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ivan802: This is the help desk for the English Language Wikipedia. Questions about the spanish Wikipedia should go there: [1] RudolfRed (talk) 02:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ivan802: Si estas buscando ayuda, es posible que esté buscando esta página. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 02:37, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
need help to create a wikipedia page
Hello,
my mother-in-law , Asha Bage, is a very well known author in India . I'd like to create a wikipedia page with her bio . I am not able to find the info to create it easily. I'd appreciate any help. thanks, -radha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsbage (talk • contribs) 02:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Rsbage, You won't be pleased to read this, but the absence of reliable sources for a topic is an indication that the topic is not sufficiently notable for Wikipedia. For clarification, you may want to read about what Wikipedia considers notable.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- A quick Google search shows that Asha Bage is a notable author. She was awarded with the Sahitya Akademi Award in 2006 for her novel Bhoomi. Radha, I suggest that you begin drafting an article. I'm sure there will be no problem with finding reliable sources. Regards, nagualdesign 20:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Please create a wiki article on "uptobox.com", which alexa rank is < 2000.
Please somebody create a wiki article on "uptobox.com", which alexa website traffic rank is < 2000. Rizosome (talk) 06:30, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Rizosome, what reliable sources have talked about it and gave significant coverage? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 08:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
agenda to create disturbance
detail study is required — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.223.84 (talk) 08:26, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- IP editor, what's your question about editing Wikipedia?--Quisqualis (talk) 17:42, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Source/visual editing, edit summary text box, lookup values - how to clean them?
In article edit mode (both source and visual) there is an "Edit summary" text box that is used during each time the user is publishing the edit. When typing in this edit box, lookup values show up based on that user's prior history of values entered in this box. This is very useful and saves time for edits of similar type. However, if you make a typo just once while entering a value in this edit box, Wikipedia remembers that and keeps showing up all prior values in lookup, including those with typos that you don't want. This is not just a small inconvenience, this renders the whole lookup useless because the user now has to type long enough string in order to bypass the wrong version in the lookup just so that it starts showing more useful lookup values. Is there any place where the user can access the database of these lookup values and selectively purge the bad ones? Of note, there appear to be two separate lookup datasets - one for source editor, another for visual editor, and I would like to know how to change both. --Nyq (talk) 08:32, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Nyq, I believe source editor uses the browser's autocomplete feature, so selecting the unwanted item and pressing ⇧ Shift+Delete should remove it. For the visual editor I believe it saves the last 200 edit summaries but can't be accessed to the best of my knowledge. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 08:37, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Too bad I have just missed a deadline to submit a proposal this year --Nyq (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for that Tenryuu! On Firefox, you start typing in the edit summary field to drop down the list, then press and hold ⇧ Shift+Delete, then click on the item that you want to delete in the list. It will then remove that item from the list. However, it then chooses one of the items in the list to insert in the edit summary (not clear which). It also may be removing more than just the one entry you clicked on. To be investigated. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 11:36, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Too bad I have just missed a deadline to submit a proposal this year --Nyq (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
editor
Sorry, this must have been asked a gazillion times, but anyways: Any way to disable the slow and confusing editor for text in English Wikipedia? (Not sure what it's called, so I've tried some changes in my preferences... but haven't been successful yet.) I just want to get back to the normal editor that was used until a couple (?) years back. Thanks, Ibn Battuta (talk) 10:44, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ibn Battuta: Do you mean switch to the visual editor? If so, click on the pen icon in the top right (when editing) and select visual editing. Pahunkat (talk) 11:08, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ibn Battuta: There are several editors and VisualEditor has been an option since 2012 so it's uncertain what you refer to. Based on the "2017 wikitext editor" tag in your recent edits, you may have enbabled "Automatically enable most beta features" or "New wikitext mode" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. Try to disable them. If that doesn't give the editor you prefer then you can enable or disable VisualEditor at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
I can't download the PDF file of the reference
Apparently, the PDF list starting with http cannot be downloaded. Is it possible to replace this with https? Thanks!--SilverMatsu (talk) 11:01, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- It's a bit difficult to help when you haven't specified which of the 6 million+ articles you are referring to! You should be able to edit the reference in the article yourself to switch to https. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:08, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull: After editing according to the advice, it is now available for download. Thank you!--SilverMatsu (talk) 12:39, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I have no idea what Infinite-dimensional holomorphy is, SilverMatsu, but I'm sure its important to some group or other ;-) Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull: After editing according to the advice, it is now available for download. Thank you!--SilverMatsu (talk) 12:39, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Page won't go online
Hey,
I created a page about 5 months ago with the hope of it being uploaded to wikipedia on my favourite music producer P2J, I added loads of information and it's all 100% accurate so i'm unsure why it hasn't gone up. Am I missing something? He's had massive hits with the likes of Beyonce, Mark Ronson, Gorillaz, Alicia Keys, Khalid, Pharrell Williams and many more
Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by OllieTFC (talk • contribs) 16:12, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome. Like a number of new users, you created the page as your User Page, rather than in your sandbox or using (the recommended) WP:AFC process. As it stands, the "draft" needs to cite some reliable sources from independent places before it has any hope of being accepted, OllieTFC. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Replacing non-free images
I'd like to replace most of the images in the Super-Kamiokande article with higher resolution images. Some of them, such as File:Pp-chain and CNO chain.jpg, are very basic diagrams that have been directly copied from non-free sources then reduced in size in order to conform with non-free image policy, to the point where they are now barely legible. What I'd like to know is if I produce higher-resolution diagrams that differ from the originals in some ways will it be permissible to upload them for use in the article, essentially sidestepping copyright restrictions, or will someone object?
In the past I have produced original artwork that was entirely my own and was accused of copyright infringement, leading to a protracted debate — one of the main reasons I no longer contribute regularly — and I have no wish to waste my time creating useful diagrams if some asshole's going to get all shirty about it. nagualdesign 18:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- You can do this. The ideas themselves are not copyrightable. Ruslik_Zero 20:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. nagualdesign 20:38, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Nagualdesign: This is complicated. "creative elements" are copyrighted, but the underlying information is not copyrightable. If part or all of your image is "too similar" to the original in some way that is "creative" then you have infringed on the copyright. This is similar to "close paraphrasing" of text. In both cases, it's a judgement call (how similar is too similar?), which why why there can be an argument. To complicate matters, if there is only one reasonable way to convey some piece of information, then that specific way is not creative. Furthermore, if some "creative element" is in very common use across multiple independent works ("the butler did it!") then that element is not copyrightable (scenes a faire). Since this is all so subjective, we at the help desk cannot give you a definitive answer. This is exceptionally frustrating, because the work you propose to do is very valuable. -Arch dude (talk) 21:23, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. I'll try to remake the images as differently as possible without changing the information they illustrate, rather than simply making hi-res copies. If you don't mind, I'll post links to the new images on your talk page once I've uploaded them in case you have any further advice or suggestions. Regards, nagualdesign 21:54, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Nagualdesign:I am happy to give an opinion. I'm not an expert, so I will likely be somewhat conservative. -Arch dude (talk) 02:57, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. I'll try to remake the images as differently as possible without changing the information they illustrate, rather than simply making hi-res copies. If you don't mind, I'll post links to the new images on your talk page once I've uploaded them in case you have any further advice or suggestions. Regards, nagualdesign 21:54, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Taking my name out
The things that I keep on doing are true please stop taking them off — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunsonaj12 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Brunsonaj12. You seem to have made two edits where you replaced a name that was easily verifiable from source material, unless you have a better source that is always going to get reverted. Besides, you should not be writing about yourself on Wikipedia. --Paul ❬talk❭ 19:15, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Brunsonaj12: also have a read of WP:TRUTH. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:32, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Brigading
Waqar Zaka, a famous personality, is calling for Ahmadiyya-related articles to be brigaded. Although majority of the vandalism has been taken care of, I was wondering if there are any steps that could be taken to avoid any further vandalism? :
>> Taimoor Ahmed(Send a Message?) 19:38, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Taimoor Ahmed: If you see an page getting repeatedly vandalized or disrupted, make a request at WP:RFPP for the page to be protected. RudolfRed (talk) 19:41, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Taimoorahmed11:, fixing ping. Got confused by your sig. RudolfRed (talk) 19:42, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Changing <references/> to {{reflist}}
Is changing <references/> to {{reflist}} to be avoided per WP:CITEVAR? User-duck (talk) 20:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- I think WP:CITEVAR is advising upon the format of the actual inline or footnote citations themselves, not the template (or tag) that ultimately groups them together to display. The {{reflist}} template, as per its own documentation, encapsulates the <references/> tag and offers some additional formatting options. I always use the template for this reason. Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:46, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- That was my understanding. I am fixing SFN errors and changed to {{reflist}} to specify narrower columns. The change was reverted citing WP:CITEVAR as the reason. Thought I would get a second opinion. User-duck (talk) 22:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
THIS IS A HOAX PAGE: NO RECORD of any Jeanette Magel anywhere in the London Gazette (which goes back hundreds of years) in which ALL judicial commissions and honours (Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire; DBE) MUST BE gazetted to be valid. Also, there is not a single reference to any Jeanette Magel aside from this article on the ENTIRE World Wide Web. Hard to believe for a judge and a Dame, to boot. I would question the article creator, User: Amisom. (Wonder what his or her mother’s name is, LOL.) Other editors, including User: Gareth Griffith-Jones, appear to have accepted the article’s prima facie legitimacy precisely because it is so innocuous and anodyne.
INACCESSIBLE/UNVERIFIABLE REFLINKS – NO LIBRARIES TO GO TO EVEN IF THESE BOOKS EXIST, WHICH I DOUBT
- Ibbetson, David (1999). A Historical Introduction to the Law of Obligations. Oxford University Press. p. 78. ISBN 019876412X.
- Honeyball, Simon (2011). Great Debates in Employment Law. Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 200–205. ISBN 019876412X.
BOGUS REFLINKS
- https://www.hendersonchambers.co.uk/ -- nothing for Magel, although she purportedly trained there
- No. 56069 (p 1030)". The London Gazette. 11 May 2000 -- Checked londongazette.co.uk and this gazette #56069 makes no reference whatsoever to Magel, whose name is nowhere in the entire Gazette (which goes back to the 19th century) -- https://www.thegazette.co.uk/wills-and-probate/notice?text=&location-postcode-1=&location-distance-1=1&location-local-authority-1=&numberOfLocationSearches=1&start-date-of-death=&end-date-of-death=&start-publish-date=&end-publish-date=&start-claim-expiry-date=&end-claim-expiry-date=&edition=&london-issue=56069&edinburgh-issue=&belfast-issue=&sort-by=&results-page-size=10&results-page=9
- "No. 58937 (p 926)". The London Gazette. 19 September 2008 -- Checked londongazette.co.uk and this gazette #58937 makes no reference whatsoever to Magel, whose name is nowhere in the entire Gazette (which goes back to the 19th century) -- https://www.thegazette.co.uk/wills-and-probate/London/issue/58937/notice?results-page-size=10&numberOfLocationSearches=1&location-distance-1=1&london-issue=58937
- Supperstone, Lawrence (2001). The Bar of the 1980s. London: Sweet & Maxwell. pp. 58–60 – NO RECORD OF ANY LAWRENCE SUPPERSTONE FOUND VIA GOOGLE SEARCH. APPARENTLY FICTITIOUS NAME. NOTE: THERE IS AN HON. MR JUSTICE (MICHAEL) SUPPERSTONE, SO I GUESS WE SEE WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM!
- Cuney, Gillian (1984). "Falkirk and ors v Argos Ltd: umpiring David and Goliath in the Industrial Tribunal". Employment Law Bulletin. Oct (2): 143–49 – NO RECORD OF ANY GILLIAN CUNEY FOUND VIA GOOGLE SEARCH. APPARENTLY FICTITIOUS NAME.
If I am mistaken (and I am positive I am not), my apologies. 67.84.231.44 (talk) 21:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, this does indeed look like a hoax and perhaps other content from the same user needs to be looked at with some care. Theroadislong (talk) 22:12, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- I would consider some caution before jumping to conclusions with this. The user(s) in question have been wiki members for quite considerable time, so we aren't looking at a create-and-run situation. Regarding the references, the books in question (Ibbetson/Honeyball) do exist and the properties check out, less the isbn which has been copied from the other erroneously. I would sooner look at this from the point of view of verifiable notability, which I think is where it probably falls apart somewhat. The lack of search results is not itself an indicator for a fictitious article, though it does make verifying notability a struggle. In saying that, I am not wholly ruling out a hoax article, but if it is, I wouldn't have easily guessed. Bungle (talk • contribs) 22:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- I agree this is a hoax. There is nothing in newspaper archives, nothing in books and nothing about this person (there is one that died in the US in 2001, unrelated). Praxidicae (talk) 22:21, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yep, definite hoax; a 2001 reprint of Ibbetson's book is accessible online, and page 78 doesn't even cover the twentieth century, let alone mention Magel. – Teratix ₵ 10:42, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Blue Air BMS/0B Blue Messenger
Blue Air is suppose to be BLA/0B
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airlines/0b-bla
Can this be looked into and changed on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:C500:56D0:F041:D922:95FC:5F7D (talk) 22:55, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- If you have an improvement to suggest for an article, please post on the article's talk page, with a citation to a reliable published source. --ColinFine (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
December 15
Sushant Singh Rajput
Dear Wikipedia,
Did you know that there are approximately 1 million messages going around to all Sushant Sing Rajput Fans that they should not spend a penny to to support Wikipedia until they change cause do death to: Under Investigation.
Please do this as soon as possible so we can start encouring donations.
Sushant Sigh Rajput was brutally murdered. There is not one picture of him that shows he was hanging. If you thouruly investigate the matter you will know that he was murdered. Plese corect this statement as soon as possible
Best Regards, Respectful SSRIAN Sushant Singh Rajput fan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.49.161 (talk) 01:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- This has been discussed more times than I can count. Please take your threats of withholding donations elsewhere. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 01:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Donations do not determine content. Discuss on the article's talk page. Show citations to support the changes you want. RudolfRed (talk) 01:46, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- There isn't going to be any discussion on the talk page because this conspiracy theory is wholly unsupported by credible secondary sources and is reverted on sight if it shows up there because of how persistent those pushing it are. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 02:29, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Donation
I have already made a monetary donation to Wikipedia and I’m tired of getting bombarded with the post every time I search for something. Could you please change this so that those of us that have donated can use the site without that notice taking over the page? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desi929 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Desi929: If you go to your preferences, there is an option to turn off the fundraising banners. RudolfRed (talk) 02:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Desi929, go to your preferences, navigate to the Gadgets tab, then click "Suppress display of fundraiser banners". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Desi929 If you have closed one of the banners by clicking the X in it, that should also place a cookie on your computer recording that you closed one of the banners and that should prevent their display, but if you routinely clear cookies or block them in the first place, this will not occur(although the function described above will still work). 331dot (talk) 08:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Ref number 1 may have the page number (2) in the incorrect place. Please check that this ref. is correct. Thanks175.33.22.186 (talk) 06:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Done (It's OK; the software decides the order). Eagleash (talk) 06:57, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Donation
I donated $16.50 after being asked. I'm still getting those annoying requests for donations. How do I get them to stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:C751:3390:9543:1FFC:8000:ECD7 (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- The software cannot tell who is at the other end of an IP address. Please create an account. Go to your Preferences, navigate to the Gadgets tab, and check the "Suppress display of fundraiser banners" box. For additional concerns please contact the Wikimedia Foundation at this email address:
donate@wikimedia.org
. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 07:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Let us suppose you saw an advert for a charity appeal in a newspaper and as a result sent off a cheque to the charity that day. Would you feel offended if the charity repeated the appeal in the same newspaper the next week? I don't think you would. The requests for money from Wikimedia are not directed at you but at people who have not made a donation.Spinney Hill (talk) 09:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Exactly. Why does this question keep coming up? No one says "Well, I bought a Coca-Cola yesterday, now I never have to see one of their commercials again." --Khajidha (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- That's because Coca-Cola's advertising department takes a lot more care than the WMF to avoid annoying people.
- That's funny, because I find many of Coca-Cola's ads FAR more annoying than any banner I've ever seen here. --Khajidha (talk) 16:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- That's because Coca-Cola's advertising department takes a lot more care than the WMF to avoid annoying people.
Download and install Adblock Plus. It's free. When you see a page with the banner, select "Block element" from the ABP dropdown, and select the banner. The banner will no longer appear on any Wikipedia pages. Other adblockers are available.--Shantavira|feed me 11:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Where can I find newly created articles on wikipedia?
Where can I find newly created articles on wikipedia? Rizosome (talk) 07:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Rizosome: The newest articles are listed at Special:NewPages. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi helpful people! I had to revert a copyvio in the above article from Gramophone magazine. I'm confused as to if there's anything else I have to do - ask for the copyvio revisions to be removed (where?) or do anything about the editor who added it (only edit was this one, back in August). Advice gratefully received! ◦ Trey Maturin 16:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Trey Maturin the correct template to request revision deletion is Template:Copyvio-revdel, which you add to the page in question. I've requested revision deletion for Gerard Schurmann. I also added a warning on the user's talkpage, although as the edits to Gerard Schurmann are their only contributions, I don't know whether they'll be coming back anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:17, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, marvellous! Thank you very much, Joseph2302! ◦ Trey Maturin 16:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Press Release as a source
When is it appropriate to use a Press Release as a source? Are they considered "Third Party" sources? I read these articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Cite_press_release/Archive_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_press_release
They show the technical side of how to cite a press release, but not the when and why.
Thank you. Adamreinman (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Adamreinman: Press releases are usually not appropriate, because they aren't third-party sources (since a press release is a company writing about itself or its close associates). However, these sorts of self-published sources under the criteria outlined at WP:ABOUTSELF: namely, for uncontroversial self-description. For instance, we could use a press release from Acme Inc. to support the claim that Acme Inc. sells widgets, but not that their widgets are the most effective widgets ever made (unduly self-serving), or that their competitor's widgets cause cancer (a claim about third parties). Vahurzpu (talk) 17:29, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)It's easier if you give the context of where you want to cite the press release, rather than trying to explain when it is appropriate to cite a press release. However, to try to wrap your head around it, keep in mind that press releases are generally (but not always, it's context specific) primary sources.
- Primary sources are sources which are close to the thing they describe, and they describe first hand knowledge of the thing. So, in history, a primary source is something like the diary or letters of someone who lived through an event. In science, a primary source is the published paper of the scientist who did the research. If you're talking about a company, that company's press releases are primary sources describing the company.
- Secondary sources are based on primary sources. Someone reads and analyzes a bunch of primary sources (and other important secondary sources), then presents information about them in a secondary source. So, in history, a book by a historian who examined diaries and letters of people who witnessed the historical event is a secondary source. In science, a review article is a secondary source. If you're talking about a company, perhaps investigative journalism about that company is a good secondary source.
- Tertiary sources (like Wikipedia) are based on secondary sources. The mission of Wikipedia is to summarize generally accepted knowledge about a topic. So our job in historical articles is to read several secondary sources about the topic and pull out the most important information from them. Our job in science articles is to read several review articles about a topic and pull out the most important information from them. Our job in articles about companies is to read what's out there about the company and pull out the most important information.
- As a tertiary source, we need to limit our reliance on primary sources, and focus on summarizing secondary sources. That said, there are times when primary sources are an important supplement to secondary sources. A direct quote from a primary document, like the Constitution, or an original research paper, or a company's press release, may be the best, most succinct way of expressing an important point. It's fine to use a primary source in this fashion. But primary sources should never be the foundation of a Wikipedia article. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:35, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- The most likely page, judging from Adamreinman's contributions, is Draft:Penumbra (company). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 18:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Than you very much Tenryuu. I really appreciate your advice. Yes, I am trying to fix up the article about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Penumbra_(company) I am trying to write a balanced view on the current controversy facing the company. There are a lot of press releases from the company - and many come up on news sites. For example: a Press Release by a law firm saying it will file a suit for investors: [1] [2] There are a lot of press releases like this. Are these relevant primary sources for the article? Thank you. Adamreinman (talk) 18:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Adamreinman: Another point to make is that while press releases can source uncontroversial info, they can't be used to demonstrate notability, since anyone can issue a press release. Your draft article needs more sources about the company to demonstrate notability, to move it from barely a weak keep to a good keep. I just did a search and didn't find a lot, but it is a fairly technical company and product, which is not covered by the mainstream press as much. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
References
Notable person?
Hello. Is a copyright attorney known for being a troll deserving of a Page? Having seen pages deleted in the past, this seems a stretch to me that he would be consider Of Note. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Liebowitz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Likeybikey (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Likeybikey: The guideline is WP:NBIO. We don't make judgments based on why a person is notable. RudolfRed (talk) 18:06, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Likeybikey: Richard_Liebowitz is clearly notable (multiple articles in reliable sources). We also have articles on Hitler, Attila the Hun, Jeffery Epstein, and Charles Manson. -Arch dude (talk) 19:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Northwestern Dispensary image: OK for Wiki?
At https://collections.nlm.nih.gov/catalog/nlm:nlmuid-101461802-img it says "Copyright:The National Library of Medicine believes this item to be in the public domain"
Can I/how can I make this part of the (Northwestern Dispensary) article?
?Commons ?EnWiki Pi314m (talk) 21:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Since it is public domain, it is suitable for Commons. Please see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard . That link provides step-by-step instructions on uploading and identifying the license. Just upload save the photo to your computer and upload it there. If you have specific questions after attempting, ask at Commons:Help desk or you can bring a more specific question here as well. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 21:33, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Not at all important, but curious
So, this is so not important but could someone explain this to me. I noticed today that, at the top of each article and next to each section heading, it says "Edit source" but it used to just say "Edit". Did I screw up something in the settings unwittingly or was there an update or am I just going crazy or something? The more I look at that "Edit source" the more it bothers me. Please help. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 21:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @EDG 543: It says "view source" on my PC if the page is protected, but "edit" otherwise. On what page(s) do you see "edit source"? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:22, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Timtempleton, thank you for the reply. Mine says "Edit source" on every page that I can edit. This one, my userpage, and any random article I happen to be viewing. I recall it saying "Edit" prior to today, even earlier today I believe. I don't know what happened. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 22:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, EDG 543. If you choose Preferences -> Editing, there is a dropdown to let you specify which editor(s) Wikipedia will offer you. --ColinFine (talk) 22:34, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Good info - it's been so long since I changed my preferences. EDG 543 - you can restore defaults at the bottom of the editing tab with one click. My checkbox editing settings, from top to bottom, are on off on off on on on off on off. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:56, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Timtempleton and ColinFine: I have fixed the issue. Thank you both so much! I have no idea why that bothered me so much, but it did. Have a blessed day! Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 23:00, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Good info - it's been so long since I changed my preferences. EDG 543 - you can restore defaults at the bottom of the editing tab with one click. My checkbox editing settings, from top to bottom, are on off on off on on on off on off. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:56, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
What is status of Live Chat?
The header at the top of the page says that Live Chat is unavailable, but no explanation given. WP:IRC does not mention anything about IRC being down (which I assume is what "Live Chat" means). Where can I find out why Live Chat is unavailable? Is there a phab for it? RudolfRed (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Users excessively posting about Caliphs of Islam at help desk. -en-help and the helpers therein have been receiving a massive amount of related harassment, such that drastic measures have to be taken to kerb it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 23:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I knew that the Help Desk got hit, I didn't realize it was so pervasive. RudolfRed (talk) 17:01, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
December 16
Lost my draft in a sandbox
Hello. I worked on a draft to supplement the current Edward Jump article. I have quite a bit of new information, with citations. I used one of my sandboxes, but now I can't find my draft. Can somebody in authority kindly look through my sandboxes and retrieve my draft for me. Thank you. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- So, sometime between 2006 and now, you last edited your draft, titled "User:BeenAroundAWhile/Sandbox"? Any idea when that last edit happened?--Quisqualis (talk) 02:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile: A userspace search of "Edward Jump" [2] finds User:BeenAroundAWhile/sandbox9. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hey BeenAroundAWhile. Please note that when you are at your contributions page, you should see a link at the bottom of the page for "Sandbox". That links to Special:PrefixIndex, with your user name filled-in automatically and the search restricted to the user namespace -- which returns the above sandbox, among your other subpages. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:39, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm trying to improve this entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Matthias
I do not understand why the citation I added falls below the Authority Control box. How do I fix this so that further citations are included in the "References" block?
Jaireeodell (talk) 01:41, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- You have to put the "Reflist" tag (in brackets) where you want the refs to go. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Underneath the "References" header. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Maximum number of references rendered?
It was brought to my attention that out of the 652 references currently in Israel, only 402 are displaying in the references section. Does anyone know why that is? ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 02:42, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Ganbaruby: Looking at the "References" section, the {{Reflist}} template has a
|group=
parameter that's only showing references in the "fn" group. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 02:51, 16 December 2020 (UTC)- Seems to have occurred at or just prior to this edit by script.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I don't suppose there's a way to undo just the script with so many edits in between, huh. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 03:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Quisqualis and Tenryuu: Yup, it was that script edit that broke it. Someone put an
|access-date=
in a hidden comment, which confused the script and caused it to delete a paragraph. I've also added a footnote section, which I think was intended by the|group=fn
. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 03:14, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Quisqualis and Tenryuu: Yup, it was that script edit that broke it. Someone put an
- I don't suppose there's a way to undo just the script with so many edits in between, huh. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 03:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Seems to have occurred at or just prior to this edit by script.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
That certain "connected contributor" template
On occasion, I've encountered a template at the top of an article which states something to the effect that "a major contributor to the article may have a connection to the article's subject". I need the template and a link to the page with other top-of-article templates. (They are impossible to locate when I need one.)--Quisqualis (talk) 07:59, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Quisqualis: {{Connected contributor}} is for talk pages. {{COI}} is for articles. See a lot more at Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup and Wikipedia:Template index/Maintenance. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Quoting paragraph
I am considering quoting an entire paragraph to aid explanation of a article I am creating. What are the rules on quoting paragraphs? paraorthomodular (talk) 08:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Update on WMF GoFundMe donations page
Although off-topic, this is just to update anyone interested in this recent post (now archived) as to whether a WMF Donations page on the GoFundMe platform was legitimate or not. I can advise that WMF Donor Services have emailed me to confirm it is legitimate, despite the absence of any mention on the main WMF Donations page. They wrote: "Our Legal team have looked into it and we are happy to confirm the link, created via the PayPal Giving Fund and GuideStar, is actually legitimate. We are most appreciative of you for reaching out to us about this matter." So there you have it. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Where is the list of Hypocorism?
I want to find an list article about hypocorism, such as bob for Robert. But I can't. Where is it?--Reiro (talk) 11:56, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- There's a category of hypocorisms, which includes many examples. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 12:10, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I would say that Bob for Robert is more of a nickname than a hypocorism, for which we have a Category:Nicknames.--Shantavira|feed me 12:17, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Reiro: Hypocorism used to have the info. See the older revisions, such as this one [[3]]. There were related discussions on the talk page to remove the info. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Including template parameters in a math block
When I try to place a template parameter within <math> tags, it doesn’t seem to do the parameter substitution. Is there any workaround? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DBoffey (talk • contribs) 12:58, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @DBoffey: Don't use math tags? I'm not sure why you want templates inside them but changing
<math>...</math>
to{{#tag:math|...}}
may work for your purpose. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 16 December 2020 (UTC) - DBoffey, what are you trying to do? The math tags are intended to be used with LaTeX, not wiki markup. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 23:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Real name of minor
Hello. I stumbled upon a recently create userpage of someone who is 10 years old and lists their real name. I read through the advice for younger editors, but it wasn't quite clear on what I should do. Should I just leave them be, should I warn them about the dangers and refer them to the guidelines, or should this be removed for safety reasons? Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 17:02, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- If I were you I'd warn them about the dangers, refer them to the guidelines, and let them know that if they would like, it can be revision-deleted or oversighted. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:09, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you very much. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 17:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @EDG 543: I would suggest IRC or email as described at WP:OVERSIGHT to avoid any further attention (even if it gets removed later). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- AlanM1, the problem edit has already been suppressed. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 19:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @EDG 543: I would suggest IRC or email as described at WP:OVERSIGHT to avoid any further attention (even if it gets removed later). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you very much. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 17:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Noor Allattar Article
Hello sir i have made the article with the name of noor allattar which I am not able to publish it . Can you kindly provide me a way to publish it ( bring it on main Wikipedia page)?. can you kindly help me to improve this to avoid the speedy deletion? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aliraqiiq/sandbox) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliraqiiq (talk • contribs) 18:08, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- I have moved it to Draft:Noor Allatar for you to work on it further. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Aliraqiiq: I will also recommend that you improve the sourcing. The article will not be approved if it is solely based on social media sites. See WP:RS and WP:GNG. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Wikilinks and plurals?
I was just looking at this diff and noticed the use of <nowiki/>
there to exclude the "s" from a plural hyperlink. Is this correct? The diff uses "written representations" instead of "written representations". I would choose the latter instead, as also seems to be implied by the examples in MOS:PIPESTYLE. Any thoughts? Biogeographist (talk) 18:34, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Biogeographist: There was no reason for
<nowiki/>
. The edit is tagged "Visual edit". That editing tool has a tendency to automatically add unnecessary or unwanted nowikis. The editor probably didn't do anything or know it happened. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:42, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
How Do I Create a Wikipedia Page
I want to create a wikipedia page for a relative, per their request. I would like to know the steps I need to take to be able to do this. I have read a person needs to be "notable"; who decides whether they are notable or not? Who is allowed to write a page? How much does this cost? I would appreciate any and all information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjhart154223 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Kjhart154223: I will try to answer every question. First of all, I am afraid that creating a new article (not yust "page") sucessfully is the most hardest task a new editor can undertake on Wikipedia, and the fact that the article is supposed about a relative does not make it easier. As for steps, I would recommend this guide. The term "notability" (and related words) have a special meaning on Wikipedia. In general, persons are presumed notable if at least three reliable independent sources have written about the subject at some depth. Everyone is in thory allowed to create an article, though articles that fail the policies are either deleted or draftified. Next, I have good news for you: Using or editing Wikipedia is absolutely free. That being said, the computers on Which Wikipedia run still needs to be financed. Therefore, you can donate to the Wikimedia Foundation which runs the servers. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:08, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Kjhart154223. Remember that Wikipedia articles are required to be neutral, which is often hard for a relative to achieve. Realise also that you will need to forget everything you know about your relative, and write entirely from the information in the independent published sources that you will need to find anyway to establish notability. Also understand that once the article is accepted into the encyclopaedia, it will not belong to you or your relative, and you will have no control over its contents: your involvement thereafter will be limited to suggesting edits, on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 21:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Uploading old photographs
I wish to upload two old photographs from the 1910s to the entry on Daphne Glenne in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Glenne
One (taken of Daphne Glenne by Bassano) is held by the National Portrait Gallery, who tell me that I am free to do this under Creative Commons. The photo is already on their website.
The second (also of her by Bassano) has come down to me through my family.
The NPG tell me that the Bassano Studio closed in 1962, and they acquired rights in the photos, and I am free to use the several ones which I own for non-commercial purposes.
How do I upload these photos? My case does not seem to fit into Wikipedia's form/questions.
Sartzbird (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Sartzbird. Unfortunately, Creative Commons has more than one type of licence: Wikipedia normally uses CC-BY-SA: in particular, a non-commercial licence ('NC') is not acceptable. However, for images of that age, it is possible that they are in the public domain anyway. I suggest asking at the Commons:Commons:Village pump/Copyright section. --ColinFine (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
DELHI Riots 2020
better change it. the riots were started by Muslim MOBS (ROHINGYAS paid by George SOROS Foundations and the Italian Mother) against the CAA bill and Article 370 abruption. but not by the Hindus. if the Hindus wanted it it would have been since the Ayodhya. #MERA BHARAT# — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.154.145 (talk) 20:41, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Not done. Please discuss at Talk:2020 Delhi riots if you have to. Please read through the existing discussions, though, and note this has already been discussed ad nauseum, and that disruptive or uncivil edits there are likely to result in sanctions. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 20:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
December 17
Rdp060707
Rdp060707 this ID are spreading False Edits and falsifying the Documents it may triggered to disputes among family members or the SULU PEOPLE,
please refrain him for using the Family name of the other people, much more in the issue of the Sultan of sulu
We may Take ACTION AGAINST HER/HIM or in YOUR SITE to fight this kind of SPREADING OF FAKE ARTICLES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebzpogi (talk • contribs) 03:33, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Nebzpogi, I strongly suggest you retract your threat of legal action lest you be blocked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 03:46, 17 December 2020 (UTC)