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::Yeah, think its easier with them not thumnailed. But what would be really helpful is if a few more people just threw in a hand deleting a few each.... --[[User:Robdurbar|Robdurbar]] 10:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC) |
::Yeah, think its easier with them not thumnailed. But what would be really helpful is if a few more people just threw in a hand deleting a few each.... --[[User:Robdurbar|Robdurbar]] 10:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:I have just asked a user who has tagged many images now on commons with a speedy tag to please stop doing so. They may be speedily deletable, but putting them in the category here just delays the deletion of the more urgent speedy candidates. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 11:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC) |
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user talk pages
Wait a second.. why are all these user talk pages listed for deletion? --Fang Aili talk 14:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- A vandal with an AOL IP added the speedy deletion category to the sockpuppet and AOL templates. I've removed it from one, and someone else removed the other. --Kuzaar-T-C- 14:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Category Header Information
This category has a large ammount of informational text, links, and summaries on the category. I just reverted Omniplex's removal of all of this, as I find it useful. Admins working CSD seem to often use this page as a CSD Portal, and this information is helpful to myself, and at least everyone else who helped create it. I'm not going to edit war over this, but think that gaining a consensus to it's usefulness may be good before deleting it. Please comment here: — xaosflux Talk 22:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with that, it renders the category page useless. WP:HIDE is rejected, it's not supported by several browsers. The presented info is redundant, in parts wrong confusing articles with pages, deletion templates with speedy deletion templates, and propagating a dubious C: shortcut in addition to the established CAT:. Category pages are sets of pages, not essays or guidelines replacing the real policy. A category page requiring to scroll until its actual content begins, with sections and what else, is wrong. See also above wrt "too long". -- Omniplex 22:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with the C:CSD not being needed, and just voiced a delete in the redirects for deletion debate on it. — xaosflux Talk 22:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree that it renders the page useless, I use it as is alomst everytime I'm on. Additionaly, most of the category header info has been here all year, and the page still gets use. — xaosflux Talk 22:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- WP:HIDE works for most users, they can disable the essay^Wintro if they hate it, in three different ways (1st part, 2nd part, both parts). WP:HIDE is cute where it works. -- Omniplex 04:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I just restored the subcategories section, rather then list those pages as subcategories (which they are), as it often confuses them with actual categories that are csd's. (They will show in their own area naturally now). — xaosflux Talk 01:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that's better. It also allows to link or bookmark CAT:CSD#Subcategories directly, skipping the intro without CSS. -- Omniplex 04:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm the person who originally put in the quick reference (I also made delaid along these lines) and added the divs which allow you to hide various sections. I disagree that WP:HIDE is unacceptable. Almost every browser in use is supported and the penalty for using an unsupported browser is low (especially compared to the penalty of not using a helper such as delaid! ;). The reference is meant to be handy and not a complete summary of the criteria, for obvious reasons. I just intended it to be something to flick back to (on the first tab, say) when writing a CSD tag or deletion summary. According to xaosflux, it is useful for that. If anybody thinks otherwise, they can use WP:HIDE. I think it is unacceptable for somebody not to use Firefox/IE5+/Mozilla/Konquerer/Safari/Camino/Flock/Maxthon and then complain they aren't accounted for. r3m0t talk 06:21, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't care, because I just scroll past it. In fact, feel free to use WP:HIDE to hide this comment :P Stifle (talk) 08:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- While I'm not an admin, I do think that if I were, the header would likely serve a purpose. Maybe not after a long time, but in the earlier part of adminship. So, I think it's just fine. (By the way, I sometimes simply scroll down when I'm just looking inside category or otherwise don't need it at that particular moment, so I will remain neutral on the WP:HIDE part.) --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 13:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- When you wrote "I think it is unacceptable for somebody not to use"..."and then complain they aren't accounted for", was that an offer to sponsor the upgrade of RAM and harddisk space on my box, which would allow me to install something better than <shudder>NS 4.x</>? If it hits less than one of 10,000 systems that would be still a considerable number, WP:HIDE was rejected for valid reasons. -- Omniplex 05:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Per xaosflux's request on my talk page to comment here, I also generally support the (very large) header, and also find the C:CSD shortcut non-good. If Omniplex(or anyone) would like to specifically justify selected removals, I'd be happy to consider them. JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- The part about five similar categories is another distraction from the following relevant content. If those categories are related, why not simply create a category for CAT:CSD plus these five categories?
- It's a general complaint, folks tend to spam lead sections with navigation boxes, instruction creep, images, and what else, forcing potentially interested readers to scroll many lines of unrelated "where do you want to go from here" info before actually seeing the first word of the content.
- It should be the other way around, first the content or at least lead section + ToC, then links to other more or less related pages for those who found that they arrived at the wrong place.
- Admittedly categories are different, no chance to add a "see also" section at the end. But maybe one link to Category:Administrative backlog would be better than five links to similar categories. -- Omniplex 06:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Let's not forget this is not a normal category, it is not a palce where our readers are going to look for more interesting articles, its sole purpose is to queue deletion nominations by editors for admins. — xaosflux Talk 02:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Proposed modification to process.
All members are invited provide comments on a proposal that may modify the current CfD process. The proposal is posted at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Wikipedia jurors. Folajimi 03:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think you've got the wrong page here. -- SCZenz 22:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
__NOGALLERY
I jsut removed the use of this tag. I find having a gallery on this page is helpful for 2 reasons: It helps identify corrupt/missing as well as obvious attack images; and it sorts the images away from the articles. Even if these are non-free images; having them appear on this page as a method for their correction or deletion seems much more helpful to the project then not displaying them out of a licensing concern (if thats why this was added). — xaosflux Talk 21:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I am adding the tag to every category which is displaying thumbnails, per FUC #9. This has been discussed here and here, between some other places. If anyone believes the tag should be removed from another category, please do drop me a line so that I can accumulate the complains and present them to the Fair use page (or post them directly in the Fair use page) to keep the revertion stated and prevent future tag insertions. I believe that, if there is broad consensus, it would be possible to create a list of pages where this tag should never be inserted. -- ReyBrujo 21:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the speedy reply; I certainly understand the fair use requirements' and think that page is a good exception; is there an existing category/template that can be used to tag a apge as a fair-use exemption? (please reply on my talk or at CSD talk) — xaosflux Talk 21:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- No category nor template that I know of; the main page consensus must have happened years ago. I believe this could be talked in the Village Pump, where it may receive more feedback. However, I suggest first dropping by the Talk page of the Fair use page, where the idea for the NOGALLERY tag was thought, discussed and/or reported first. I can post a note there with the idea of creating a template, category or list with "candidates" for NOGALLERY exceptions, to later be discussed at the relevant places. -- ReyBrujo 21:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the speedy reply; I certainly understand the fair use requirements' and think that page is a good exception; is there an existing category/template that can be used to tag a apge as a fair-use exemption? (please reply on my talk or at CSD talk) — xaosflux Talk 21:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Wha?!?!
I just checked this page, and there were zero, yep zero candidates for speedy deletion. Someone must have been busy doing the deletes and we must not be looking hard enough in the mainspace for candidates. ;-) Let's keep up the good work. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- how do i delete articles —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.5 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 20 July 2006.
- Step one, sign up and create an account. Step two, spend some time editing articles and learning Wikipedia policy. Step three, apply for adminship. Once adminship is given, delete. --LV (Dark Mark) 20:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Speedy tags in images
Hmm...when I pull up the history of images, I cannot see an edit corresponding to a speedy tag being added. Why is that? --HappyCamper 03:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've been wondering the same thing. Apparently, if there's no fair use rationale provided in the initial edit, it's automatically tagged with {{db-noncom}}. Roy A.A. 23:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Recent activity shows that users are uploading "non-commercial-only" images that are not allowed. Images that are "non-commercial-only" have this message:
Dear uploader: The media file you just uploaded has been listed for speedy deletion because you indicated that it is used by permission for Wikipedia only or for non-commercial use only. While it might seem reasonable to assume that such images can be freely used on Wikipedia, a non-profit website, this is in fact not the case. Please do not upload any more images with this restriction on them.
If you created this image and want it to be kept on Wikipedia, replace this message with {{GFDL-self}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} to license it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, or use {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain.
If you did not create this image but want it to be used on Wikipedia, there are two ways to proceed. First, you may replace this message with one of the fair use tags from this list if you believe one of those fair use rationales applies to this image. Second, you may want to contact the copyright holder and request that they make the media available under a free license.
If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
Do you know why these images keep showing with the db-noncom template? These images violate the image use policy! I think the IPs/users who uploaded these files should be blocked for images due to policy violations. --Bigtop (tk|cb|em|ea) 19:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- The way this works is that when someone selects "I have permission to use this image" or "This image is licensed for non-commercial/educational use", the image gets listed for speedy deletion immediately, with a message for the uploader not to upload the material again.
- The selection is intended as a trap for uninformed users, instead of them slapping a PD tag on it ("I found it on a public website, so it's in the public domain"), see MediaWiki talk:Licenses, and as such it would not be helpful to block users who upload this type of image unless they do it over and over again. Stifle (talk) 15:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Recently deleted
Hi. I'm not an admin, but I created a framework on the top of this talk page which lists recently deleted articles.
You have to add nominated entries by hand, but as soon as an admin deletes the page it automagically appears in red above. Is this cool, or what?! --Uncle Ed 19:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- The markup was interesting, but by the time I found it all the links were already deleted....hmm maybey they weren't, but I removed all of them to clear the reds, if there were nodisplay's I must have removed them as well. — xaosflux Talk 02:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Tons of errors showing up
A redirect being used in someone's sig (redirecting to his old sig page) was marked as speedy for being a broken redirect. They didn't put it in a noinclude, and it made everywhere he'd signed show up on this list. I finally found the original source, and deleted it, so now there aren't speedy tags all over, but the places are still on this list. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 07:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I believe there is a bot that runs to clean these up. Did a quick search and did not find it. If I'm right these will be fixed in the next hour or so. If you are concerned, you can do a null edit. Vegaswikian 07:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- There's no bot, though marudubshinki briefly did it with a bot. I usually do it, though others try to help sometimes (and that's when mistakes like this are made). --Rory096 07:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- Done. Pages that don't appear on CAT:CSD were cleared out. -- ADNghiem501 07:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
--xluavirus talking
my lua virus page is a candadate for a reason unknown to me, may i please know the reason?
Images
Would it be feasable for images to be put into a subcategory? They are kind of distracting (in screen spoace and bandwidth use) for those of us just loading this page to handle article/userspace speedy deletions. --W.marsh 21:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Images are CSD candidates too, what we need is for more admins to help out deleting / delisting them as aproprate, not hiding them away in some subcat because they are "distracting". It's not rocket sience, either the image fit a speedy deletion criterea or it doesn't, and if someone screw up we undelete images now so no big loss. As for the thumbnails: Well there is the __NOGALLERY__ tag, not sure what the consensus is on using it here though. --Sherool (talk) 17:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- That's all fine and well but I'm just interested in handling article CSDs. Seperate categories just make sense... I would think it would make it easier to do images if you didn't have to scroll through potentially 50+ article listings to get to the images. --W.marsh 21:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, think its easier with them not thumnailed. But what would be really helpful is if a few more people just threw in a hand deleting a few each.... --Robdurbar 10:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- I have just asked a user who has tagged many images now on commons with a speedy tag to please stop doing so. They may be speedily deletable, but putting them in the category here just delays the deletion of the more urgent speedy candidates. Kusma (討論) 11:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)