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:I think that you just add a tag for speedy deletion (listed towards the bottom of this page [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion]]), with your reason for the request, see my question above. I'm not sure. Wikipedia pages are bad about instructions for people who don't already know how to do something. [[User:KP Botany|KP Botany]] 16:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC) |
:I think that you just add a tag for speedy deletion (listed towards the bottom of this page [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion]]), with your reason for the request, see my question above. I'm not sure. Wikipedia pages are bad about instructions for people who don't already know how to do something. [[User:KP Botany|KP Botany]] 16:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC) |
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::If you are not the one who created the page and it does not meet the [[WP:CSD|criteria for speedy deletion]], or you intend to fix it, you can remove the tag, leaving an edit summary explaining why you are doing so. If you are the one who created the page, do not remove the tag. Instead, add {{tl|hangon}} below the speedy tag, then explain on the article's talk page why you believe the article should not be deleted. After this, an admin will review the circumstances and decide if the article does or does not meet the [[WP:CSD|criteria for speedy deletion]]. [[User:Timrem|timrem]] 23:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC) |
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user talk pages
Wait a second.. why are all these user talk pages listed for deletion? --Fang Aili talk 14:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- A vandal with an AOL IP added the speedy deletion category to the sockpuppet and AOL templates. I've removed it from one, and someone else removed the other. --Kuzaar-T-C- 14:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Japnese Spider Crab
Hi, could I please bring this redirect up to your attention? I'm very tired, so I can't learn the protocol for speedy deletion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.23.186.250 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Category Header Information
This category has a large ammount of informational text, links, and summaries on the category. I just reverted Omniplex's removal of all of this, as I find it useful. Admins working CSD seem to often use this page as a CSD Portal, and this information is helpful to myself, and at least everyone else who helped create it. I'm not going to edit war over this, but think that gaining a consensus to it's usefulness may be good before deleting it. Please comment here: — xaosflux Talk 22:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I strongly disagree with that, it renders the category page useless. WP:HIDE is rejected, it's not supported by several browsers. The presented info is redundant, in parts wrong confusing articles with pages, deletion templates with speedy deletion templates, and propagating a dubious C: shortcut in addition to the established CAT:. Category pages are sets of pages, not essays or guidelines replacing the real policy. A category page requiring to scroll until its actual content begins, with sections and what else, is wrong. See also above wrt "too long". -- Omniplex 22:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with the C:CSD not being needed, and just voiced a delete in the redirects for deletion debate on it. — xaosflux Talk 22:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree that it renders the page useless, I use it as is alomst everytime I'm on. Additionaly, most of the category header info has been here all year, and the page still gets use. — xaosflux Talk 22:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- WP:HIDE works for most users, they can disable the essay^Wintro if they hate it, in three different ways (1st part, 2nd part, both parts). WP:HIDE is cute where it works. -- Omniplex 04:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I just restored the subcategories section, rather then list those pages as subcategories (which they are), as it often confuses them with actual categories that are csd's. (They will show in their own area naturally now). — xaosflux Talk 01:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that's better. It also allows to link or bookmark CAT:CSD#Subcategories directly, skipping the intro without CSS. -- Omniplex 04:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm the person who originally put in the quick reference (I also made delaid along these lines) and added the divs which allow you to hide various sections. I disagree that WP:HIDE is unacceptable. Almost every browser in use is supported and the penalty for using an unsupported browser is low (especially compared to the penalty of not using a helper such as delaid! ;). The reference is meant to be handy and not a complete summary of the criteria, for obvious reasons. I just intended it to be something to flick back to (on the first tab, say) when writing a CSD tag or deletion summary. According to xaosflux, it is useful for that. If anybody thinks otherwise, they can use WP:HIDE. I think it is unacceptable for somebody not to use Firefox/IE5+/Mozilla/Konquerer/Safari/Camino/Flock/Maxthon and then complain they aren't accounted for. r3m0t talk 06:21, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't care, because I just scroll past it. In fact, feel free to use WP:HIDE to hide this comment :P Stifle (talk) 08:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- While I'm not an admin, I do think that if I were, the header would likely serve a purpose. Maybe not after a long time, but in the earlier part of adminship. So, I think it's just fine. (By the way, I sometimes simply scroll down when I'm just looking inside category or otherwise don't need it at that particular moment, so I will remain neutral on the WP:HIDE part.) --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 13:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- When you wrote "I think it is unacceptable for somebody not to use"..."and then complain they aren't accounted for", was that an offer to sponsor the upgrade of RAM and harddisk space on my box, which would allow me to install something better than <shudder>NS 4.x</>? If it hits less than one of 10,000 systems that would be still a considerable number, WP:HIDE was rejected for valid reasons. -- Omniplex 05:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Per xaosflux's request on my talk page to comment here, I also generally support the (very large) header, and also find the C:CSD shortcut non-good. If Omniplex(or anyone) would like to specifically justify selected removals, I'd be happy to consider them. JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- The part about five similar categories is another distraction from the following relevant content. If those categories are related, why not simply create a category for CAT:CSD plus these five categories?
- It's a general complaint, folks tend to spam lead sections with navigation boxes, instruction creep, images, and what else, forcing potentially interested readers to scroll many lines of unrelated "where do you want to go from here" info before actually seeing the first word of the content.
- It should be the other way around, first the content or at least lead section + ToC, then links to other more or less related pages for those who found that they arrived at the wrong place.
- Admittedly categories are different, no chance to add a "see also" section at the end. But maybe one link to Category:Administrative backlog would be better than five links to similar categories. -- Omniplex 06:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Let's not forget this is not a normal category, it is not a palce where our readers are going to look for more interesting articles, its sole purpose is to queue deletion nominations by editors for admins. — xaosflux Talk 02:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Proposed modification to process.
All members are invited provide comments on a proposal that may modify the current CfD process. The proposal is posted at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Wikipedia jurors. Folajimi 03:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think you've got the wrong page here. -- SCZenz 22:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
__NOGALLERY
I jsut removed the use of this tag. I find having a gallery on this page is helpful for 2 reasons: It helps identify corrupt/missing as well as obvious attack images; and it sorts the images away from the articles. Even if these are non-free images; having them appear on this page as a method for their correction or deletion seems much more helpful to the project then not displaying them out of a licensing concern (if thats why this was added). — xaosflux Talk 21:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I am adding the tag to every category which is displaying thumbnails, per FUC #9. This has been discussed here and here, between some other places. If anyone believes the tag should be removed from another category, please do drop me a line so that I can accumulate the complains and present them to the Fair use page (or post them directly in the Fair use page) to keep the revertion stated and prevent future tag insertions. I believe that, if there is broad consensus, it would be possible to create a list of pages where this tag should never be inserted. -- ReyBrujo 21:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the speedy reply; I certainly understand the fair use requirements' and think that page is a good exception; is there an existing category/template that can be used to tag a apge as a fair-use exemption? (please reply on my talk or at CSD talk) — xaosflux Talk 21:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- No category nor template that I know of; the main page consensus must have happened years ago. I believe this could be talked in the Village Pump, where it may receive more feedback. However, I suggest first dropping by the Talk page of the Fair use page, where the idea for the NOGALLERY tag was thought, discussed and/or reported first. I can post a note there with the idea of creating a template, category or list with "candidates" for NOGALLERY exceptions, to later be discussed at the relevant places. -- ReyBrujo 21:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the speedy reply; I certainly understand the fair use requirements' and think that page is a good exception; is there an existing category/template that can be used to tag a apge as a fair-use exemption? (please reply on my talk or at CSD talk) — xaosflux Talk 21:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Wha?!?!
I just checked this page, and there were zero, yep zero candidates for speedy deletion. Someone must have been busy doing the deletes and we must not be looking hard enough in the mainspace for candidates. ;-) Let's keep up the good work. --LV (Dark Mark) 21:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- how do i delete articles —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.5 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 20 July 2006.
- Step one, sign up and create an account. Step two, spend some time editing articles and learning Wikipedia policy. Step three, apply for adminship. Once adminship is given, delete. --LV (Dark Mark) 20:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Speedy tags in images
Hmm...when I pull up the history of images, I cannot see an edit corresponding to a speedy tag being added. Why is that? --HappyCamper 03:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've been wondering the same thing. Apparently, if there's no fair use rationale provided in the initial edit, it's automatically tagged with {{db-noncom}}. Roy A.A. 23:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Recent activity shows that users are uploading "non-commercial-only" images that are not allowed. Images that are "non-commercial-only" have this message:
Dear uploader: The media file you just uploaded has been listed for speedy deletion because you indicated that it is used by permission for Wikipedia only or for non-commercial use only. While it might seem reasonable to assume that such images can be freely used on Wikipedia, a non-profit website, this is in fact not the case. Please do not upload any more images with this restriction on them.
If you created this image and want it to be kept on Wikipedia, replace this message with {{GFDL-self}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} to license it under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, or use {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain.
If you did not create this image but want it to be used on Wikipedia, there are two ways to proceed. First, you may replace this message with one of the fair use tags from this list if you believe one of those fair use rationales applies to this image. Second, you may want to contact the copyright holder and request that they make the media available under a free license.
If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
Do you know why these images keep showing with the db-noncom template? These images violate the image use policy! I think the IPs/users who uploaded these files should be blocked for images due to policy violations. --Bigtop (tk|cb|em|ea) 19:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- The way this works is that when someone selects "I have permission to use this image" or "This image is licensed for non-commercial/educational use", the image gets listed for speedy deletion immediately, with a message for the uploader not to upload the material again.
- The selection is intended as a trap for uninformed users, instead of them slapping a PD tag on it ("I found it on a public website, so it's in the public domain"), see MediaWiki talk:Licenses, and as such it would not be helpful to block users who upload this type of image unless they do it over and over again. Stifle (talk) 15:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Is there a grace period before the deletions can take place? --HappyCamper 12:15, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Recently deleted
Hi. I'm not an admin, but I created a framework on the top of this talk page which lists recently deleted articles.
You have to add nominated entries by hand, but as soon as an admin deletes the page it automagically appears in red above. Is this cool, or what?! --Uncle Ed 19:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- The markup was interesting, but by the time I found it all the links were already deleted....hmm maybey they weren't, but I removed all of them to clear the reds, if there were nodisplay's I must have removed them as well. — xaosflux Talk 02:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Tons of errors showing up
A redirect being used in someone's sig (redirecting to his old sig page) was marked as speedy for being a broken redirect. They didn't put it in a noinclude, and it made everywhere he'd signed show up on this list. I finally found the original source, and deleted it, so now there aren't speedy tags all over, but the places are still on this list. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 07:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- I believe there is a bot that runs to clean these up. Did a quick search and did not find it. If I'm right these will be fixed in the next hour or so. If you are concerned, you can do a null edit. Vegaswikian 07:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- There's no bot, though marudubshinki briefly did it with a bot. I usually do it, though others try to help sometimes (and that's when mistakes like this are made). --Rory096 07:51, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- Done. Pages that don't appear on CAT:CSD were cleared out. -- ADNghiem501 07:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
--xluavirus talking
my lua virus page is a candadate for a reason unknown to me, may i please know the reason?
Images
Would it be feasable for images to be put into a subcategory? They are kind of distracting (in screen spoace and bandwidth use) for those of us just loading this page to handle article/userspace speedy deletions. --W.marsh 21:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Images are CSD candidates too, what we need is for more admins to help out deleting / delisting them as aproprate, not hiding them away in some subcat because they are "distracting". It's not rocket sience, either the image fit a speedy deletion criterea or it doesn't, and if someone screw up we undelete images now so no big loss. As for the thumbnails: Well there is the __NOGALLERY__ tag, not sure what the consensus is on using it here though. --Sherool (talk) 17:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- That's all fine and well but I'm just interested in handling article CSDs. Seperate categories just make sense... I would think it would make it easier to do images if you didn't have to scroll through potentially 50+ article listings to get to the images. --W.marsh 21:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, think its easier with them not thumnailed. But what would be really helpful is if a few more people just threw in a hand deleting a few each.... --Robdurbar 10:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- I have just asked a user who has tagged many images now on commons with a speedy tag to please stop doing so. They may be speedily deletable, but putting them in the category here just delays the deletion of the more urgent speedy candidates. Kusma (討論) 11:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm fine with the nogallery on here, but it seems that if we are goign to count all of the image subcats for orphans/no copyright/etc, this page will be endlessly backloged, do they really belong here? — xaosflux Talk 05:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
List of speedily deleted articles?
Is there a way for me to view a chronological list of articles that were speedily deleted in the recent past?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 12:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
- Check Special:Log/delete, pretty much everyting that does not mention a deletion debate or simmilar process in the summary is a speedy deletion. --Sherool (talk) 14:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Image talk pages
Please make sure if you speedy delete an image you also check to see if the image has a talk page, and speedy that as well. I've encountered about a dozen image talk pages with no image page just looking at the 100 most recent changes to image talk pages. VegaDark 10:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Backlog
People seem to have wildly differing opinions on what counts as backlog to this page. Can we all agree on a specific number of articles/images/both, at which point we'd consider CAT:CSD backlogged? -- Steel 19:05, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- IMO 50 - 100 is acceptable, as 200 is not a backlog, but a major problem. feydey 15:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I was the one who upped it to 200 articles/images [1], though looking back that's way too high. Though I don't think it should be too low else this page will be permanently tagged with the backlog notice which defeats the entire purpose of it. -- Steel 15:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think 100 is good, BUT, I think Images shouldn't be counted or included HERE unless they are attack/obvious flaw images. The other speedyable images (miriad of licensing issues) should have their own page. — xaosflux Talk 02:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- I was the one who upped it to 200 articles/images [1], though looking back that's way too high. Though I don't think it should be too low else this page will be permanently tagged with the backlog notice which defeats the entire purpose of it. -- Steel 15:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- There's nothing wrong with 50, the number that was accepted for a very long time. If that means that there will permanently be a backlog tag here, that's a problem with the articles not being deleted, not the definition of a backlog. You don't fix that by changing the amount of articles needed for a backlog, you fix it by promoting more admins or finding more existing admins to clear the backlogs. Is this really how we want to deal with our problems now? Just change the definition of a problem so it's no longer one? --Rory096 18:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- The point of the backlog tag is to attract the attention of admins who wouldn't normally have noticed/done anything about it. Having the page permanently tagged as backlogged defeats the whole purpose of the tag. On a tangent, I wouldn't really consider 50 a backlog. That's just my opinion though. -- Steel 19:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, which is why the page shouldn't permanently be tagged as backlog. That doesn't mean, however, that we should up our standards when the amount of work to be done increases, it means we have to work harder. --Rory096 00:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- The point of the backlog tag is to attract the attention of admins who wouldn't normally have noticed/done anything about it. Having the page permanently tagged as backlogged defeats the whole purpose of the tag. On a tangent, I wouldn't really consider 50 a backlog. That's just my opinion though. -- Steel 19:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely amazing
This thread was moved[2] from Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship because it's more appropriate here.``
Simultaneously sent to wikiEN-l
I just saw the current message above the backlog tag at CAT:CSD. It reads:
<!-- Remove the comments around the line below this message (Adminbacklog) to add a backlog tag. To remove the backlog tag, put comments tags around it. Usually, the tag is added if there are 100 or more articles (or 200 articles & images combined) in this category. -->
When did it become acceptable to have 100 articles or 200 total things in CAT:CSD? Since we now have backlogs more often, that means we should raise the criteria for what is actually a backlog? Is this why we're unnecessarily raising our standards on RfA, because if we don't have as many "backlogs," but still have just as many pages waiting to be processed, then we don't need as many admins? This is appalling. We might as well stop promoting admins and just delete the backlog tag, then we wouldn't have any "backlogs" and nobody would have to do anything! Wouldn't that be nice? Ugh. This is just silly. We need to stop dicking around and start actually being productive. We're here to run an encyclopaedia, not pretend we're doing so and accomplishing absolutely nothing. --Rory096 14:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Nor are we here to inflate our self-importance by thinking it's clever to oppose people on RfA. — Werdna talk criticism 14:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Getting more admins is always good. I encourage both of you to find a suitable candidate and nominate him or her - and encourage your friends to do likewise. (unfortunately the last person I wanted to nominate declined because he thought he hadn't done enough vandalfighting to not get voted down; I'm looking for others atm). >Radiant< 14:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I am hard-pressed to find somebody willing to go through the chinese water torture that is RfA on english Wikipedia at the moment. Let alone somebody who'll actually pass the damn thing. — Werdna talk criticism 14:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Can we all stop acting as though the sky is falling. Thanks. -- Steel 14:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I've been through worse, and been through it before. I'd be mighty useful during the day on these backlogs, but I don't stand a chance in hell of promotion. --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- It is better to light a candle. I've found a second person to nominate, I hope s/he'll accept. >Radiant< 14:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Then you're simply not trying hard enough. At this moment, there are 14 people and one bot trying to gain adminship. So the suggestions that noone is willing to try RfA are patent exaggeration. -Splash - tk 18:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- 15 people (and 1 bot) on the RFA main page doesn't mean that they will all pass. — Moe 02:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- That is exactly not what Werdna said, though. -Splash - tk 15:27, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion
Just a thing non-admins could do, if they're interested in helping out and showing that they will work on admin backlogs: Go through old AFDs that haven't been closed yet, find ones with few or no comments where you think a closer isn't going to be comfortable making a decision yet, and relist them on today's AfD page (make sure to remove them from the old AfD page). This doesn't require you to be an admin, and it's something that admins will eventually do anyway with many of these AfDs, so if you do it first, they can spend more time actually closing AfDs. Also, closing consensus keeps and merges is something any uninvolved Wikipedian can do if they want, and those are a bit more time consuming to close than simple deletes.
My point here is that it's regrettable that RfA is such a nightmare for some people, but I think some candidates can get over the hump if they show they clearly are cut out to be admins by doing admin-like work. Of course this is not the only thing non-admins can do to show they're cut out to be admins (I think I'm on the record supporting all the non-admins in this thread), but for others it's a good way to help out.
I bring this up because there's currently a huge backlog in closing old AfDs, which I'm working on, but it's really beyond what any one person can realistically deal with at this point. --W.marsh 15:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Er, a backlog on AFDs isn't really going to be resolved by relisting AFDs. >Radiant< 15:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- No, but they need to be relisted (some never get any comments in their initial 5 days). Relisting is something admins end up doing if no one else does, and it's a time-consuming process, eating up time admins could spend actually closing AfDs. I thought this was clear in my initial post. --W.marsh 15:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, there are some AfDs that simply cannot be closed properly without first relisting them. I did the best I could with September 25 but I simply don't have the time it would take to close this last monster. I don't think what we need to help conquer the AfD backlog is more admins to close AfDs: what we need are more admins who are willing to close contentious AfDs. I was just as guilty: after feeling that I was hung out to dry in a single DRV, I took a break from closing contentious AfDs to reduce my Wikistress. Maybe I shouldn't have done that. But the fact remains: we have plenty of good, experienced admin volunteers who are willing to close AfDs (and they close many of them!), but not enough who are willing to close difficult and contentious AfDs. --Deathphoenix ʕ 16:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- This is something I've considered for the future. I just wasn't ready to ask if it would be OK for me to do so. I guess I'm afraid of making a mistake that would hurt me in the future. Like others, I would only want to do things that I would get my head lopped off. Perhaps, we need to remeber we are all volunteers, we all have feelings, and we all sometimes need to release stress in a way that others don't need to experience.Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 19:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Believe me, closing contentious AfDs can be pretty stressful when you encounter people who have a vested interest in the article being kept in its whole form (or want to see it deleted). I suppose that's why there aren't a whole lot of people doing it (and why I quit doing it for a while). Heck, I even came up with a ratio about it. :-) But it would be a really nice thing if we have some thick-skinned admins who are willing to take the flak and close these AfDs, because seeing the eight day backlog was what convinced me that I should return to closing contentious AfDs, even though, to be honest, I didn't really want to do it that much. --Deathphoenix ʕ 20:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- No, but they need to be relisted (some never get any comments in their initial 5 days). Relisting is something admins end up doing if no one else does, and it's a time-consuming process, eating up time admins could spend actually closing AfDs. I thought this was clear in my initial post. --W.marsh 15:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Quick reference (I8 & I9)
The quick reference lists "I8: Attack Images" and "I9: Identical on Commons" while there is no longer an I9 at WP:CSD. We should probably change one or the other so they coincide. Why didn't we leave I8 as (This criterion has been superseded by G10 and is kept for historical reasons.) and keep I9 at I9, as we did with A6? Hope this makes sense, DVD+ R/W 00:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
How do you salt a page?
So it won't be recreated? Looks like this one might need it Santo Calarco. I'm a new admin helping out here and I know it's possible to do, just can't find instructions. --plange 04:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- It looks like you figured it out. —Centrx→talk • 04:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, User:Blnguyen notified me on my Talk page :-) Just so I make sure I'm doing things right, was I right to salt that page? --plange 04:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it was right. Also, it would help if every time a page is salted a few old ones were removed (See Wikipedia:Protected deleted pages#Administrators), but that's not obligatory. —Centrx→talk • 05:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, User:Blnguyen notified me on my Talk page :-) Just so I make sure I'm doing things right, was I right to salt that page? --plange 04:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is my newly uploaded image listed here?
Hi, I just uploaded an image for the article on Georgi Gladyshev and I see that it is at speedy deletion. What is the point of allowing me to upload it? What is the correct way to upload a photo for an article of a noted person who is still alive, i.e. when the photo is not more than 100 years old? --Sadi Carnot 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have tagged it appropriately. It would be best to get him to agree to release the picture under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), or similar license (such as certain Creative Commons licenses). —Centrx→talk • 00:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks you, I will go that route next time. Also, does this mean that the person has to agree to the following:
- Copyright (c) YEAR YOUR NAME.
- Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document
- under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2
- or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation;
- with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.
- A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU
- Free Documentation License".
- Or, what exactly (in words) do they have to agree to? --Sadi Carnot 02:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- They have to agree to license it under the "GNU Free Documentation License", and they should understand generally what that means, so link them to http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html. See also Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. —Centrx→talk • 02:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 13:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Images no longer displayed?
Up until yesterday or today, the images here in CAT:CSD showed up as thumbnails, below the alphabetical list of other pages. Now they're mixed in the alphabetical list, with some under "I" (for "Image:") and some under "?". This makes it a little more difficult to deal with the speedy image backlog. Image file names aren't very useful indicators of the content, and I know some editors/admins "specialize" in investigating and processing certain types of images (celebrity publicity photos, sports photos, etc.). The large number of images also clutters the non-image page list. Can the thumbnails be restored, please? Thanks, --MCB 07:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- The reason for it was because page loading was horrendous when the image backlog was large. I tend to think it should stay this way, but if there is some good reason to be able to see the thumbnails before going to the page...? —Centrx→talk • 08:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think the thumbnails are very useful, but I agree that page load times were getting pretty long. On the other hand, when processing stuff here I don't reload the page very often. Occasionally that means something was already deleted or removed from the cat by the time I click on it, but that's not a big deal. --MCB 18:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- All the images sorted under "�" (𘚟) are stuff tagged with {{db-noncom}}, usualy by the uploaders themselves by picking a "wrong" license from the upload list. The ones under "I" for image are tagged using various other deletion templates (typicaly corupt images, vandal stuff or redundant images). Not having the thumbnails actualy makes this destinction easier to see. Though the thumbnails do have some benefits too, especialy if you "specialise" on deleting corrupt images or fixing logos and cover art mistakedly uploaded as "non-commercial only" or whatever. --Sherool (talk) 09:00, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. The segregation of the {{db-noncom}} items is in fact useful -- but I guess you have to know why they're sorted that way... perhaps a notation on the category page would be helpful. Personally, I think the existence of the noncom license choice itself is a bad idea, and would prefer to see it removed from the list of licenses. What possible good can it do to permit the user to choose a license that will result in speedy deletion of the image they uploaded? But I guess there's a place for that debate rather than here. (I've seen it, but not sure where.) --MCB 18:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not very happy with the by-permission and non-commercial images showing up here, either (perhaps they should go in a subcategory?), but the situation is much, much better than the pick-a-license roulette we saw before they were put into place. You wouldn't believe the number or type of images that showed up in Category:GPL images when {{GPL}} was the default choice. —Cryptic 19:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. The segregation of the {{db-noncom}} items is in fact useful -- but I guess you have to know why they're sorted that way... perhaps a notation on the category page would be helpful. Personally, I think the existence of the noncom license choice itself is a bad idea, and would prefer to see it removed from the list of licenses. What possible good can it do to permit the user to choose a license that will result in speedy deletion of the image they uploaded? But I guess there's a place for that debate rather than here. (I've seen it, but not sure where.) --MCB 18:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Advice needed
I have speedied quite a few pages today. Since this is the first time I am doing it, can someone please review some of my deletes and let me know if I should be doing something differently -- Lost(talk) 18:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'll have time to look through them more carefully later on today, but two things jump out at me from glancing through the logs (and are sufficiently general enough that I'm posting them here rather than your talk page, which is really where this belongs): copyvio deletions should name the site or source they're infringing (so non-admins can see that it's not a public domain or GFDL source or a mirror), and libellous material from attack pages and the like should be blanked from the deletion summary. —Cryptic 19:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Noted and will do so going ahead. Thanks -- Lost(talk) 19:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
NOGALLERY again
Ehem... the category is already included in the exceptions... any reason people add/remove it? Speed issues, maybe? -- ReyBrujo 01:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- When there are lots of images listed, people who have slow connections have a hard time loading the page. on the flip side, having a gallery is useful to spot obvious vandalism. So when this is heavily backlogged it is usually removed, and when it is not the gallery stays, hence the frequency of adding and removing the code. VegaDark 04:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- That sounds like a wise thing to do. enochlau (talk) 03:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Speedy Delete Removed
What should one do if a speedy delete added to a page is removed by the person who created the page.
This happened with Katti.
Markco1 03:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Put the Template:Drmspeedy series of warnings on their talk page, and report them on WP:AIV if they contine past the last warning. VegaDark 04:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
This one got missed over a month ago
Hi there, hate to be a pest but not quite sure how to correct this situation. I speedy-tagged Jack ramond samuel evans back on October 22, and it has not been dealt with one way or the other. Given the content (reads like a schoolboy prank on a classmate), it would probably be good to clean this one out. Thanks. Risker 14:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- I deleted it, but it didn't show up in the category. Cheers. Lectonar 17:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
How to list?
This doesn't say anything about how to list candidates for speedy deletion. Is this even the right place? Here, someone just delete this junk please, Jake Nickless. It doesn't even deserve one of the tags. KP Botany 01:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Adding any deletion tag, such as {{d}}, to an article will list it here automatically. Usually, though, you would use {{db|YOUR REASON HERE}} to explain why it should be deleted. timrem 02:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. It doesn't really say that anywhere, that that's what you do, just add the template to the article. KP Botany 23:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
howto contest
If one is not an admin, and one wishes to contest a speedy deletion of a page not your own, how should this be done? (for that matter, if one was the author, and it is still taged after "hangon" & you wish to contest it, what is the proceedure?) DGG 05:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think that you just add a tag for speedy deletion (listed towards the bottom of this page Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion), with your reason for the request, see my question above. I'm not sure. Wikipedia pages are bad about instructions for people who don't already know how to do something. KP Botany 16:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- If you are not the one who created the page and it does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, you can remove the tag, leaving an edit summary explaining why you are doing so. If you are the one who created the page, do not remove the tag. Instead, add {{hangon}} below the speedy tag, then explain on the article's talk page why you believe the article should not be deleted. After this, an admin will review the circumstances and decide if the article does or does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion. timrem 23:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)