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:::Read the full quote by Sarkozy in the source, and remember that this article on Wikipedia isn't only about the school shooting. [[User:Somedifferentstuff|Somedifferentstuff]] ([[User talk:Somedifferentstuff|talk]]) 13:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC) |
:::Read the full quote by Sarkozy in the source, and remember that this article on Wikipedia isn't only about the school shooting. [[User:Somedifferentstuff|Somedifferentstuff]] ([[User talk:Somedifferentstuff|talk]]) 13:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC) |
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::::Ok. I think I understand your elliptical complaint, and I shall make clear in the lead that Sarkozy was only referring to the school shooting.<br />Best Wishes <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:AnkhMorpork|<b><font color="#990000">Ankh</font></b>]]'''.'''[[User talk:AnkhMorpork|<font color="#000099">Morpork</font>]]'''</small> 13:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC) |
::::Ok. I think I understand your elliptical complaint, and I shall make clear in the lead that Sarkozy was only referring to the school shooting.<br />Best Wishes <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User:AnkhMorpork|<b><font color="#990000">Ankh</font></b>]]'''.'''[[User talk:AnkhMorpork|<font color="#000099">Morpork</font>]]'''</small> 13:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::You still aren't representing the source accurately. Let's wait to hear from VR on this as well. [[User:Somedifferentstuff|Somedifferentstuff]] ([[User talk:Somedifferentstuff|talk]]) 22:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC) |
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== "killed by Israeli forces in Gaza and the West Bank" == |
== "killed by Israeli forces in Gaza and the West Bank" == |
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Edit request on 18 April 2012
a) Redundancy
Subsection 2.1, i.e. Earlier life in the Mohammed Merah section, contains a redundancy in the seventh sentence of the third paragraph:
Merah had a history of psychological problems, and French intelligence officials have suggested he had a had a double life or even a split personality [...]
Please remove one of the had a "blocks".
b) Contradictory information
There is contradictory information about the age of one of the victims at the Ozar Hatorah school:
Subsubsection 1.3.2, i.e. Shootings in the 19 March: Ozar Hatorah school in Tolouse subsection of the Attacks section, contains the following information in the seventh sentence of the first paragraph:
The killer chased a 7-year-old girl into the courtyard, caught her by her hair and raised a gun to shoot her.
In the following subsubsection, i.e. 1.3.3. (Victims), the first sentence states:
Four people died: [...] and the head teacher's daughter, eight-year-old Miriam Monsonego[...]
The sources seem to contradict themselves, as stated by the BBC, although a majority (including the BBC source itself) give an age of eight.
This should be mentioned in the article. Otherwise, please consistently give the age as either 7 or 8.
Sorry for the "section/subsection/subsubsection" terminology, should anyone be unfamiliar with it - I'm a TeX user, and old habits die hard.
FungusFromYuggoth (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: Seeing how, erm, speedily the admins monitoring the protection requests category seem to work, I guess I'll just wait for the protection to expire then. FungusFromYuggoth (talk) 18:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Many apologies. The article is not currently protected. Danger High voltage! 04:33, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Motivation listing in infobox
User:AnkhMorpork recently added that the motivation was anti-semitism. This intentionally misleads the reader because 3 of the people killed by Merah weren't Jewish. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 11:13, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ok. How would you rather the information is presented.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 13:53, 22 April 2012 (UTC)- Killing "sellouts" is typical of racially, religiously and ethnically motivated terrorists. What do the sources say? Speciate (talk) 14:04, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Killing "sellouts" may be racially motivated, but it isn't antisemitism. Furthermore, Merah didn't intend to target the Jewish school, rather he was looking for a soldier to kill. At least one source disputes antisemitism as a motive.
- Listing antisemitism as a motive is ok, as long as there's an indication that it is disputed, and that it was one of the many factors.VR talk 20:14, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
- Killing "sellouts" is typical of racially, religiously and ethnically motivated terrorists. What do the sources say? Speciate (talk) 14:04, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Sarkozy - antisemitism
I recently added this material, which was improved upon with this edit by Vice regent. This material now has been removed on the grounds of "Source not properly represented." Why is this the case and what improvements would you advise?
Best Wishes [[User:AnkhMorpork|Ankh
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 13:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC)]].Morpork 09:21, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- You cherry-picked the source and didn't represent it properly. Have another look. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 12:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- And are you accusing Vice regent of the same misdemeanors? Please explain how I, and VR, inappropriately used this source, and how you would rather it is presented, so that we can proceed in a constructive manner. You have not voiced the reason for your objections, and I would appreciate your thoughts.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 12:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)- Read the full quote by Sarkozy in the source, and remember that this article on Wikipedia isn't only about the school shooting. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 13:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ok. I think I understand your elliptical complaint, and I shall make clear in the lead that Sarkozy was only referring to the school shooting.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 13:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC)- You still aren't representing the source accurately. Let's wait to hear from VR on this as well. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 22:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ok. I think I understand your elliptical complaint, and I shall make clear in the lead that Sarkozy was only referring to the school shooting.
- Read the full quote by Sarkozy in the source, and remember that this article on Wikipedia isn't only about the school shooting. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 13:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- And are you accusing Vice regent of the same misdemeanors? Please explain how I, and VR, inappropriately used this source, and how you would rather it is presented, so that we can proceed in a constructive manner. You have not voiced the reason for your objections, and I would appreciate your thoughts.
"killed by Israeli forces in Gaza and the West Bank"
This is not how the vast majority of sources report Merah's motivation, nor is it consistent with his exact words, "'The Jews have killed our brothers and sisters in Palestine."
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 09:31, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- The Telegraph is a good source. The article is here.[1] Somedifferentstuff (talk) 12:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- If we are unable to agree on a accurate summation of the sources, it is fair that the reader is privy to all the salient aspects of this point, and I aim to introduce to the lead his precise wording.
Best Wishes Ankh.Morpork 12:31, 30 April 2012 (UTC)- Let's wait to hear from VR. Somedifferentstuff (talk) 12:37, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- If we are unable to agree on a accurate summation of the sources, it is fair that the reader is privy to all the salient aspects of this point, and I aim to introduce to the lead his precise wording.