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The articles reads like a personal website for Ben True, is non-encyclopedic, lacks notability for athletes.Everestrecords (talk) 07:31, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ben True has achieved the standard for notability as he was on multiple international teams and is, in fact, a medalist as a member (leader) of the team, where he was 6th place at the 2013 IAAF World Cross Country Championships. Additionally he was a double senior national champion in Road Racing, in turn winning the Peachtree Road Race. I improved the sourcing on that. As such, I have removed the TAG about notability. Trackinfo (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. He seems to be like tens of thousands of runners in the USA. Yes he won some things, did well, competed at a high level, etc., but I don't see anything encyclopedic in content. There are people like Max King, Ryan Bak, etc, who have done well in Olympic trials finals, have won US Mountain Running Championships (1st places), etc, and are not at wikipedia. Placing notability tag back. Seems you have a personal stake in this runner being in wikipedia? Everestrecords (talk) 10:02, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The articles used as sources about him are not of major media...the Runner's World article is a brief "newswire" article with an interview with him. Should wikipedia be used to provide secondary athletes with a promotional webpage. The wikipedia article is full of peacock statements. At most, it should be reduced to 1-2 sentences about him, or removed. Requesting Speedy Deletion shortly. Everestrecords (talk) 04:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have no association with the guy, never met him, wouldn't know him if I saw him. I'm not too good WP:civility in these kind of arguments, so I won't lecture you. I only refer to WP:NSPORTS, which I did contribute to writing, so I know it well. I'll ask you about the other athletes you mentioned, do they have international credentials? If they do, why haven't you gotten off your butt and written an article for any of them. As an International athlete (confirmed by a source), True is; an International medalist, a top 10 individual finisher at the World Cross Country Championships (confirmed by source), National Champion (confirmed by source), so he meets the threshold. You seem to think the current sourcing stinks. Lets see: 9 sources (I might do further research and add to this later), a Runners World mention, USATF confirmation of a national championship, a sponsor page, his college page, 3 IAAF references confirming his achievements and a flotrack video. Pretty conventional track sourcing and not numerically weak. Yeah, Flotrack does videos on everyone and I've never heard of "In the arena" but they look like hacks for a sponsored team. I looked further, Google shows plenty of other sources, you should try it sometime. True was less than half a second from making the 2013 team for the World Championship; deadly 4th place in 2 events. A second and a half behind Bernard Lagat and Galen Rupp who you might have heard of see here. True finished within a breath (.06) behind 2008 Olympic bronze medalist Edwin Soi at Rieti meeting, beating 2012 bronze medalist Thomas Longosiwa, along with notable athletes Ben St Lawrence, Caleb Mwangangi Ndiku, Andrew Bumbalough, Henrik Ingebrigtsen and Garrett Heath in the process (confirmed by this source) and that was only as far as I looked down the list. Just to point out he runs in notable company. Its a weak argument to show comparable articles, just like yours is a weak argument that other people are not covered (yet) by wikipedia. There is no reason to delete this guy's article, nor if you get any bright ideas, any of those other people's articles. Deletion is for junk, for frauds. This is neither. I suggest you remove your numerous tags that have effectively vandalized this article. See User:Trackinfo#TaggingTrackinfo (talk) 07:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Trackinfo individual has removed all of my tags without reaching consensus. The article is full of advertisement, peacock statements, and clearly appears to be non-notable ... Ben True is just one of tens of thousands of athletes running at that level in different events, different venues, cities/countries, etc. He is not a nationally distinguished runner. Not in any sense. The author of the article misleads the reader to think he is nationally distinguished with deceptive wording about his placings in races. While he has won some races, as shown in the lack of national media coverage, he is not in any way considered a nationally distinguished runner. Most of the sources are data-results from races, rather than articles. The 'articles' are mostly not articles, but rather are brief press releases on random webpages. Some of the releases actually show the inexperience of Ben True. Generally, the article is a deceptive attempt to promote the runner, provide him a homepage at wikipedia, using data-results as sources, captioned pictures as sources, his hometown school as sources, and speculative articles that simply announce he is an up and coming athlete. The editor, in removing all of my tags abruptly, clearly appears biased and interested in inciting problems...he was supposed to leave the tags until the issue was resolved. Everestrecords (talk) 05:19, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please leave the tags I place until 3rd parties can step in. As I read on your own page, you have had problems with disputes and power struggles. Please stop unilaterally deciding on this article. Without question it is full of advertisement, peacock statements, and the use of the sources is misleading, as I explain above. 3rd parties are needed to decide on this. Your need to be a judge here shows your bias. Everestrecords (talk) 05:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please check your edit history. I am not the only editor that thought your tags were unnecessary, inappropriate and excessive. I did not remove your tags. I told you to come to your senses and remove them yourself. Trackinfo (talk) 06:14, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]