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== "Coat of Arms"? == |
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Do we actually have a source that identifies the familiar Beverly Hills sign as it's official [[coat of arms]]? That seems odd. The image is sourced to the BH official website, but I could find nothing indicating it has the status of a coat of arms. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC) |
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We have developed some disagreement over the use of the word "affluent" in the lead sentence. Let's quit reverting each other and discuss it here. Those who want it provide sources, and point out that virtually everyone describes the community as affluent (we could provide a dozen sources). Those who don't want it say that there has been a decision elsewhere at Wikipedia not to use words like this in describing cities. {{ping|John from Idegon}} could you explain here, as you explained to me, why you are removing this word? {{ping|James Allison}} could you join the discussion? --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 17:20, 19 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:It's actually referred to as a "shield," and I invite you to make the textual change 'cause I don't know how to do it. See https://www.newspapers.com/image/192597188/?terms=Beverly%20Hills%20Shield&match=1. Thanks. [[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) 21:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC) |
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:Per [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities#Request for comment|this RfC]], use of economic status indicating adjectives (specifically: Affluent, poor) is depreciated. "There is rough consensus against the inclusion of terms such as "affluent" or "poor" in ledes to articles on cities and towns in general. " |
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::{{tl|help}} - Whoever knows how: pls change the caption under what is not a coat of arms to read "Shield". |
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:My reasoning: |
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:::I thought this would be easy but I am also unable to figure it out. I did rename the file over at Commons, the field it is under in the infobox was already "image_shield" so I'm fairly baffled. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:55, 9 October 2021 (UTC) |
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#Affluent has no specific meaning, no defined metric upon which to measure it and is subjective. What it means to you it might not mean to me. I cannot see how it is any different than "Awesome" as a modifier, except that we are obviously talking about financial things when we say affluent. No one would question the labeling of "Awesome" as [[WP:PUFFERY|PUFFERY]]. As I said, I see no real difference. |
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::::{{done}} I figured it out by looking at the infobox documentation. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC) |
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#On the metrics: Probably the most common metric for affluence is median household income. Modal income would probably be better. Probably an even better metric would be modal home value. But still rich to me and rich to you are never going to be the same thing. |
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#Altho logic dictates that there are far more poor communities in the world than affluent, the word affluent is used much more frequently in article ledes. This lends credence to the puffery argument. It also takes me to my next point. |
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#Many of the additions of affluent that I have seen and reverted over the years appear to have been added as a marketing point. This is a real concern in many areas on Wikipedia. We are slowly getting taken over by the SEO crowd. |
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#Lastly, {{ping|James Allison}}, you stated in an edit summary that if any community is affluent it is Beverly Hills. I think you may be surprised if you research either median household income or median home value. I do not have the time right now, but I am pretty sure BH isn't even in the top 5 for either....probably not in the top ten either. Yet another puffery based argument. [[User:John from Idegon|John from Idegon]] ([[User talk:John from Idegon|talk]]) 19:17, 24 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:::John, I will defer to the result of the RfC and leave it out. However, I disagree with your points 1 and 2. It would not be up to us to decide whether a community is "affluent" or not based on metrics; that would be [[WP:OR]]. Our job as encyclopedists is to reflect what independent reliable sources say. If many truly independent sources use the term "affluent" to describe a community, particularly if they frequently use it as a primary descriptor, that would be our cue to include it in our primary descriptor as well. Examples: [http://www.reuters.com/article/bankruptcy-venoco-idUSL2N18A01O] [http://www.ibtimes.com/inside-radical-plan-launch-fleet-self-driving-shuttles-beverly-hills-2370349] [http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-wealthy-cities-lag-in-conservation-20150404-story.html] As I said, I will defer to the RfC, but IMO that is the ONLY reason for omitting it; there really are solid, policy-based reasons why it has been there for so long. --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 20:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC) |
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::::Those are much better sources than what was on the article I agree. And I do think that most would describe Beverly Hills as affluent. But at the end of the day, that would still be editorializing on the part of the journalist writing the story. We don't use editorial content from media sources; I don't see using editorializing as productive either. More so than newspapers, an encyclopedia is supposed to be factual. An adjective that has no definitive meaning does not do that. My last point was meant to show that the perception of affluence does not always match the facts. According to [http:// www.city-data.com/top2.html this], Beverly Hills isn't even in the top 100. [[User:John from Idegon|John from Idegon]] ([[User talk:John from Idegon|talk]]) 22:11, 24 May 2016 (UTC) |
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== Please Update == |
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⚫ | Robert Wunderlich is no longer the incumbent mayor. The incumbent is now Lili Bosse. Please update! Thank you. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/130.126.255.159|130.126.255.159]] ([[User talk:130.126.255.159#top|talk]]) 15:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{done}} Got fixed at some point. [[User:RadioactiveBoulevardier|RadioactiveBoulevardier]] ([[User talk:RadioactiveBoulevardier|talk]]) 21:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== Beverly Hills == |
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This entire story is so inaccurate i dont where to start. Beverly hills began when burton green couldnt buy a house in Hancock Park (because he was Jewish). It was called Beverly Hills because his wife’s name was Beverly. Hence, beverly blvd. beverly drive. Burton avenue. There were no race restrictions. Only that each home be 1 acre in size north of wilshire boulevard. The south was reserved for the working class. Their child “dolly green” was an equestrian. Yes. He did build the Beverly Hills hotel. It burned to the ground and was rebuilt. This is why wikipedia doesnt work when it comes to facts. [[Special:Contributions/190.218.230.250|190.218.230.250]] ([[User talk:190.218.230.250|talk]]) 21:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:The content in the ''History'' section of this article is [[WP:RS|reliably sourced]], while none of your claims are. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<span style="color: #006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:General Ization|<i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i>]] </sup> 21:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:By the way, [[:Burton E. Green]]'s wife was named Lillian, not Beverly, and the [[:Beverly Hills Hotel]] never burned down. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<span style="color: #006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:General Ization|<i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i>]] </sup> 21:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC) |
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I do not know what has happened, I didn't cause it but I came across this article and it appears to be broken. I am not a skilled enough editor to attempt to fix it, so perhaps this message can get to someone more qualified to fix it (as said before I did not break it, I found it this way.) [[User:Wikieditor6942021|Wikieditor6942021]] ([[User talk:Wikieditor6942021|talk]]) 12:33, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
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== Employers data table == |
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:Thanks for posting this notice. Cheers, [[User:Fettlemap|Fettlemap]] ([[User talk:Fettlemap|talk]]) 12:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
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== Rod Stewart == |
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Rod Stewart is from Beverly Hills, California [[User:Elevatorsarefun|Elevatorsarefun]] ([[User talk:Elevatorsarefun|talk]]) 15:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== Persians == |
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"The largest ethnic community are Persians, who make up over 26% of the population of Beverly Hills"? I presume 26% of the minorities? I can't check it, because note 54 doesn't work anymore. [[User:Vinvlugt|Vinvlugt]] ([[User talk:Vinvlugt|talk]]) 08:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC) |
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==Image move reversed== |
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I moved an image of a photo model on duty to a section of the article that mentions entertainment agencies as relevant to the economy of the city. That was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beverly_Hills,_California&oldid=prev&diff=969200643&markasread=195795992&markasreadwiki=enwiki reversed here] with an edit summary that does not make any sense to me. So now that photo is back where it royally screws up the layout of he article, at least on standard screens like mine. Better? --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 09:36, 24 July 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{fixed}} after no input here. I would not mind if that image was removed, but seeing it under "Climate" looks ridiculous. Is she a model or just some woman a friend snapped to get her into this article? --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 11:58, 26 July 2020 (UTC) |
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::She was a model. I took the photo. [[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) 21:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC) |
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:::I suppose it would be better with the photo crew in there, but I don't think I have a negative like that. Some day I might look. [[User:BeenAroundAWhile|BeenAroundAWhile]] ([[User talk:BeenAroundAWhile|talk]]) |
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==In popular culture== |
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Maybe [[Beverly Hillbillies#J. D. "Jed" Clampett|Jed Clampett]] doesn't qualify under notable people, but [[Beverly Hillbillies]] surely should rate a reference under Popular Culture. [[User:Rairden|Rairden]] ([[User talk:Rairden|talk]]) 06:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC) |
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"Coat of Arms"?
Do we actually have a source that identifies the familiar Beverly Hills sign as it's official coat of arms? That seems odd. The image is sourced to the BH official website, but I could find nothing indicating it has the status of a coat of arms. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- It's actually referred to as a "shield," and I invite you to make the textual change 'cause I don't know how to do it. See https://www.newspapers.com/image/192597188/?terms=Beverly%20Hills%20Shield&match=1. Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 21:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- {{help}} - Whoever knows how: pls change the caption under what is not a coat of arms to read "Shield".
- I thought this would be easy but I am also unable to figure it out. I did rename the file over at Commons, the field it is under in the infobox was already "image_shield" so I'm fairly baffled. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:55, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Done I figured it out by looking at the infobox documentation. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- I thought this would be easy but I am also unable to figure it out. I did rename the file over at Commons, the field it is under in the infobox was already "image_shield" so I'm fairly baffled. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:55, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- {{help}} - Whoever knows how: pls change the caption under what is not a coat of arms to read "Shield".
Please Update
Robert Wunderlich is no longer the incumbent mayor. The incumbent is now Lili Bosse. Please update! Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.255.159 (talk) 15:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Done Got fixed at some point. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Beverly Hills
This entire story is so inaccurate i dont where to start. Beverly hills began when burton green couldnt buy a house in Hancock Park (because he was Jewish). It was called Beverly Hills because his wife’s name was Beverly. Hence, beverly blvd. beverly drive. Burton avenue. There were no race restrictions. Only that each home be 1 acre in size north of wilshire boulevard. The south was reserved for the working class. Their child “dolly green” was an equestrian. Yes. He did build the Beverly Hills hotel. It burned to the ground and was rebuilt. This is why wikipedia doesnt work when it comes to facts. 190.218.230.250 (talk) 21:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- The content in the History section of this article is reliably sourced, while none of your claims are. General Ization Talk 21:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- By the way, Burton E. Green's wife was named Lillian, not Beverly, and the Beverly Hills Hotel never burned down. General Ization Talk 21:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Broken article
I do not know what has happened, I didn't cause it but I came across this article and it appears to be broken. I am not a skilled enough editor to attempt to fix it, so perhaps this message can get to someone more qualified to fix it (as said before I did not break it, I found it this way.) Wikieditor6942021 (talk) 12:33, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting this notice. Cheers, Fettlemap (talk) 12:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)