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== Might need a controversy section soon. == |
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https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/republican-house-member-refers-to-black-americans-as-colored-people-in-debate-188414533987 |
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-eli-crane-refers-black-americans-colored-people-house-floor-rcna94200 [[User:FusionLord|FusionLord]] ([[User talk:FusionLord|talk]]) 15:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Beatty's false statement == |
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Why isn't Beatty's false statement covered in her article? RE "I’m old enough to remember when Black officers, when women, were not allowed to serve,” is patently false. She was born in 1950 and would have started remembering things in the late 1950s. Women and blacks started being allowed to server in numbers in the early 1940s, and even before that (ref the Tuskegee Airmen pilots). While I see why she was upset, if wiki wants to be neutral as it claims, both sides of this mess need to be covered. See https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4096840-arizona-republicans-colored-people-remark-draws-floor-rebuke/ [[Special:Contributions/70.161.8.90|70.161.8.90]] ([[User talk:70.161.8.90|talk]]) 22:12, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:Why not bring that up on her article talk section instead? This isn't a forum but a place to talk about proposed and current edits. Wikipedia isn't a place for your whataboutism and political agenda. [[User:FusionLord|FusionLord]] ([[User talk:FusionLord|talk]]) 12:25, 17 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Controversy == |
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On July 13, 2023 US Republican House member, Eli Crane, referred to African Americans, by using the Jim Crow terminology, as "colored people". He later claimed that he misspoke. His claim has been challenged by democrats. [[Special:Contributions/2601:14A:700:C600:C8C4:2EA2:DE3E:160C|2601:14A:700:C600:C8C4:2EA2:DE3E:160C]] ([[User talk:2601:14A:700:C600:C8C4:2EA2:DE3E:160C|talk]]) 01:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:Already in the article under [[Eli Crane#Tenure]] -- [[User:Pemilligan|Pemilligan]] ([[User talk:Pemilligan|talk]]) 06:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Article innacurately cited == |
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The Business Insider cited under in the Tenure section makes no mention of diversity training or diversity. The claim that the proposed amendment would eliminate diversity training is simply not supported by the source. What the source does say is that Crane says the amendment would prevent the consideration of race and gender in various military decisions. This would impact diversity training as currently done in the military if the training racially discrimnates against some members, but we have no evidence in the article about that. |
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I propose the following change : " ... a bill amendment he proposed that he says would prevent racial discrimination in the military." [[User:BookNotion|BookNotion]] ([[User talk:BookNotion|talk]]) 19:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC) |
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I was [[WP:BOLD|bold]] and implemented the change. I put "Consideration of race" instead of the proposed "Racial discrimination". --[[User:BookNotion|BookNotion]] ([[User talk:BookNotion|talk]]) 08:15, 21 November 2023 (UTC) |
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Might need a controversy section soon.
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/republican-house-member-refers-to-black-americans-as-colored-people-in-debate-188414533987 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-eli-crane-refers-black-americans-colored-people-house-floor-rcna94200 FusionLord (talk) 15:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Beatty's false statement
Why isn't Beatty's false statement covered in her article? RE "I’m old enough to remember when Black officers, when women, were not allowed to serve,” is patently false. She was born in 1950 and would have started remembering things in the late 1950s. Women and blacks started being allowed to server in numbers in the early 1940s, and even before that (ref the Tuskegee Airmen pilots). While I see why she was upset, if wiki wants to be neutral as it claims, both sides of this mess need to be covered. See https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4096840-arizona-republicans-colored-people-remark-draws-floor-rebuke/ 70.161.8.90 (talk) 22:12, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Why not bring that up on her article talk section instead? This isn't a forum but a place to talk about proposed and current edits. Wikipedia isn't a place for your whataboutism and political agenda. FusionLord (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Controversy
On July 13, 2023 US Republican House member, Eli Crane, referred to African Americans, by using the Jim Crow terminology, as "colored people". He later claimed that he misspoke. His claim has been challenged by democrats. 2601:14A:700:C600:C8C4:2EA2:DE3E:160C (talk) 01:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Already in the article under Eli Crane#Tenure -- Pemilligan (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Article innacurately cited
The Business Insider cited under in the Tenure section makes no mention of diversity training or diversity. The claim that the proposed amendment would eliminate diversity training is simply not supported by the source. What the source does say is that Crane says the amendment would prevent the consideration of race and gender in various military decisions. This would impact diversity training as currently done in the military if the training racially discrimnates against some members, but we have no evidence in the article about that.
I propose the following change : " ... a bill amendment he proposed that he says would prevent racial discrimination in the military." BookNotion (talk) 19:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
I was bold and implemented the change. I put "Consideration of race" instead of the proposed "Racial discrimination". --BookNotion (talk) 08:15, 21 November 2023 (UTC)