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{{dyktalk|23 December|2008|{{*mp}} "... that the '''[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration]]''' is scheduled for four days of celebration, with [[Washington, D.C.]] [[Drinking establishment|bars]] authorized to stay open until 5:00 a.m.?"}} |
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== Parade route == |
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Can someone make a parade route map using [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/graphics/inaugurationClosings_0115.html the Washington Post detail]? I usually use the TIGER service, but for this district [http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapsurfer?infact=2&outfact=2&act=move&tlevel=-&tvar=-&tmeth=i&mlat=&mlon=&msym=bigdot&mlabel=&murl=&lat=38.8951607&lon=-77.0283203&wid=0.044&ht=0.020&conf=mapnew.con&map.x=239&map.y=201 the map] has too much going on for me to use it.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 22:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC) |
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And don't forget to note that Pres. Obama got out of the car TWICE to walk the parade route instead of staying in the car the whole way. [Special:Contributions/4.249.3.223|4.249.3.223]] ([[User talk:4.249.3.223|talk]]) 21:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Controversies == |
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Okay, the Rick Warren thing could be called controversial (and possible moved to a section solely on Rick Warren, with better elaboration). As could the curfew stuff. But his middle name? I don't think controversial means catching people off guard. Maybe the fact he will use his full name should be mentioned, but I see no evidence that its controversial. [[User talk:Parler Vous#top|Parler Vous]] [[Special:Contributions/Parler Vous|(edits)]] 05:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC) |
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:<sup>{{checkmark}}</sup> A contributor moved this info to its own section, "[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration#Use of "Hussein"|Use of 'Hussein']]." [[User:Justmeherenow|<span style="font-family:Mistral; font-size:small;">''' J''us''t t''ip''s m''e'' h''a''t b''u''t t''he''n 〜o''n'' t''hough''t b''ow''s d''ee''p''l''y''' …</span>]] 16:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC) |
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::Yea it was me. [[User talk:Parler Vous#top|Parler Vous]] [[Special:Contributions/Parler Vous|(edits)]] 18:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC) |
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Does the fact that official souvineirs are hideously expensive (the bronze inaugural medal is SIXTY bucks!!!!) count as a controversy?[[User:Ericl|Ericl]] ([[User talk:Ericl|talk]]) 17:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Probably not. [[User:CFLeon|CFLeon]] ([[User talk:CFLeon|talk]]) 01:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Use of Roman numeral 'II' in Obama's name in event infobox == |
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This is crystal ball type judgement on my part but one I feel fairly confident about. My reading of the tealeaves follows.<blockquote>''Unlike Biden's use of ''Jr.,'' Obama -- whose father he barely knew and who is now dead -- never has used any designation of his being a "jr." (or else even a ''II(nd)'') on any document I am aware of with the exception of his birth certificate. Thus it would be my educated guess that Obama will not use it along with the rest of his full name at his inauguration.''<br><br><small>Is this unusual? ''Cf.'' [[List of United States Presidential names]], where seven US pres.'s are listed as possessing the designation ''Jr.:'' from James Earl Carter, Jr., of course -- and also Gerald R. Ford, Jr. -- to earlier in the Republic's history with James Buchanan, Jr., and James Madison, Jr.<br><br>Which of these men ever used ''Jr.'' as part of their formal names? I myself don't know.....but I could note that this list could have even included ''Andrew Jackson, <u>Jr.</u>,'' whose father died when he was an infant; and this designation for Jackson ''would'' have been included in this article's listing too, making the number of "Jr.'s" eight, save for the fact that the nephew that Jackson adopted as his son was named: Andrew Jackson, Jr. -- which, it could be argued, makes the omission of President Jackson as a "Jr." in the listing defensible.</small></blockquote>In sum, many have been in fact "jr.s" but never or only sometimes used the designation, resulting in ''Jr.'' not having being part of their formal names in habitual usage. (BTW if Biden uses something other than the crystal-balled ''Joseph R. Biden, Jr.'' now in the infobox, we might well edit it to reflect this fact as well.) [[User:Justmeherenow|<span style="font-family:Mistral; font-size:small;">''' J''us''t t''ip''s m''e'' h''a''t b''u''t t''he''n 〜o''n'' t''hough''t b''ow''s d''ee''p''l''y''' …</span>]] 18:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Merging == |
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*<small>'''<u> N · O · T · E </u>:'''</small> .....''Per'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Forum_shopping#Forum_shopping Wikipedia:Forum shopping] (and, I think, elsewhere), I'm tranferring the discussion below to [[Talk:Presidential_transition_of_Barack_Obama#Merger_proposal]].[[User:Justmeherenow|<span style="font-family:Mistral; font-size:small;">''' ↜J''us''t m''e,'' h''er''e, n''o''w''' …</span>]] 20:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Why merge? [[User:ABC101090|ABC101090]] ([[User talk:ABC101090|talk]]) 15:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:'''OPPOSE''' That does not make sense to me.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 16:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:: I oppose it also, that is why I am asking why it should be merged. [[User:ABC101090|ABC101090]] ([[User talk:ABC101090|talk]]) 16:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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: Also oppose, it's a large scale event and deserves its own article. [[User:Snjrdn|sean]] ([[User talk:Snjrdn|talk]]) 20:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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'''Please see the discussion at [[Talk:Presidential_transition_of_Barack_Obama#Merger_proposal]].''' --[[User:Happyme22|Happyme22]] ([[User_talk:Happyme22|talk]]) 20:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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=== Why does this have it's own Wiki Page? === |
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I don't understand....Why does Obama's inauguration have it's own Wikipedia page? I don't see a single one from past Presidents'. So why is he an exception? He's just going to be inaugurated, no need for a Wikipedia page. [[User:Gouryella|Gouryella]] ([[User talk:Gouryella|talk]]) 12:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Go create those articles if you can find enough sources and judge the [[WP:N|general notability criteria]] to be fulfilled. The question of whether or not this article belongs is imho defied by [http://stats.grok.se/en/200901/Barack%20Obama%202009%20presidential%20inauguration the 100.000 views the article has had in January ''so far'']. [[Special:Contributions/78.34.168.97|78.34.168.97]] ([[User talk:78.34.168.97|talk]]) 16:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC) |
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|dykentry=... that the '''[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration]]''' is scheduled for four days of celebration, with [[Washington, D.C.]] [[Drinking establishment|bars]] authorized to stay open until 5:00 a.m.? |
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::Just because Obama is black does not mean he deserves his Inauguration deserves its own page.[[User:Gouryella|Gouryella]] ([[User talk:Gouryella|talk]]) 23:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* [[Talk:Inauguration of Barack Obama/Archive 1|Archive 1]] <small>(2008–2009)</small> |
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==Assassination Attempt== |
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== fixbatching Template == |
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I think the fixbatching template doesn't work. It creates a large space between the text and the infobox. Is there any way to fix that? - [[User:Plau|plau]] ([[User talk:Plau|talk]]) 00:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I believe that [[Template:fixBunching]] is used, generally, in order to keep edit buttons from wandering off to where they don't belong on the page (''ie'' their being all, well, ''bunched up!'') Plau, in any case, regarding spacing it renders between infobox and nav template, this isn't particularly noticeable on my browser ''ie'' is identical to the distance between two written paragraphs. What does it look like on yours?[[User:Justmeherenow|<span style="font-family:Mistral; font-size:small;">''' ↜J''us''t m''e,'' h''er''e, n''o''w''' …</span>]] 13:06, 17 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Didn't someone try to shoot him at his inauguration? Someone told me that when Obama was walking on the street someone popped up with a gun but got tackled by security. [[User:Emperor001|Emperor001]] ([[User talk:Emperor001|talk]]) 22:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== Performers? == |
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Do you think we should add a list of singers performing such as Josh Groban? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.162.208.27|99.162.208.27]] ([[User talk:99.162.208.27|talk]]) 03:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==False alarm terror attack== |
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The article notes the players of the piece that was put together by John William, but neglects to mention its source material by Copeland, his source material, or even the traditional names of the piece. And in true Wiki form, even the length of the piece would be nice if you wanna get real geeky. [[User:SeattleSeamus|SeattleSeamus]] ([[User talk:SeattleSeamus|talk]]) 05:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Does [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/magazine/17Terror-t.html?ref=magazine this description of a false alarm] deserve reporting? Reuters had something on it too, I believe, at the time of the inauguration. [[User:Bsimmons666|'''Bsimmons<span style="color:#990000;">666</span>''']] ([[User_talk:Bsimmons666|talk]]) 02:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== Television Broadcasters == |
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:I added a sentence.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:FOUR]]) </small> 03:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
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I think there should be a section for television broadcasters, since we do have an online broadcast section. I'm guessing the major American commercial television networks and news channels will broadcast it. [[User:NorthernThunder|NorthernThunder]] ([[User talk:NorthernThunder|talk]]) 04:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Make that major television networks around the world, both commercial and non profit. This is not just America's event, you know. [[Special:Contributions/121.72.172.186|121.72.172.186]] ([[User talk:121.72.172.186|talk]]) 07:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Would that qualify as notable? Should we not cover this under each broadcaster's page (or perhaps create an appropriate subpage) if it is indeed notable? [[User:Webmaster961|Webmaster961]] ([[User talk:Webmaster961|talk]]) 17:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Deleted info from article about condition of Mall grounds== |
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== Costs == |
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I removed the info from the article regarding the condition of the Mall grounds, since the paragraph where this info was inserted focuses mostly on crowd counts, with a lesser mention about the mishandling of crowd control related to the widely-reported "Purple Ticket" incident. With the number of people who were on the Mall grounds to witness the inauguration, it goes without saying that the vegetation on the grounds would have been damaged. To reinsert the removed content, it needs to made relevant to crowd control theme of the paragraph, rather than placing [[WP:WEIGHT|undue weight]] on something not more directly related to the inauguration itself. As an example of of the viewpoint expressed here, I gather that the removed content could equally apply to the yearly Independence Day event that takes place on the Mall, but the condition of the Mall grounds is not the focus (or germane) to that event, either. '''<span style="color:red;"><strong>→</strong></span>[[User:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">Lwalt</span>]]<sup> ♦ [[User talk:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>]]</sup>''' 17:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC) |
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The section on [[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration#Fundraising|#Fundraising]] currently cites the --according to MMFA-- wrongly calculated $150 million and attributes the figure to shoddy journalism based on no hard sources of information. Just dropping this note and the preformatted source here for everyone's consideration, maybe I'll edit it myself later today. [[Special:Contributions/78.34.168.97|78.34.168.97]] ([[User talk:78.34.168.97|talk]]) 16:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Merger Proposal== |
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:Just to back up what's already been said, I've linked two articles below: the first one shows that the $40 million dollar figure for the 2005 Inauguration does not include the costs of security and is located about about four paragraphs in, the second one shows that including the cost of security adds $115 million dollars to the tab of the 2005 Inauguration ceremony and is about two thirds of the way through the article. I think the article cited above does a fairly good job of pointing out that the 2008 price tag is in flux. |
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{{discussion top|1=Following this discussion, small amount of information was '''merged'''. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 19:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)}} |
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It was suggested in January, 2009 that the standalone article [[Purple Tunnel of Doom]] be merged into this one. I think that would be appropriate to the topic's importance, when seen in retrospect. [[User:Betsythedevine|betsythedevine]] ([[User talk:Betsythedevine|talk]]) 19:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' - either merge the page to this one or delete it. The nickname appears to have only existed [[WP:NTEMP|temporarily]] in discussions of the inauguration. [[User:Cnilep|Cnilep]] ([[User talk:Cnilep|talk]]) 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' - merge as proposed. [[User:Freikorp|Freikorp]] ([[User talk:Freikorp|talk]]) 06:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC) |
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::'''Comment''' I would only support a merge of the [[Purple Tunnel of Doom]] article into this one only if the content is handled the same as the issue we had a while back about the condition of the Mall (see my comments above about Mall condition issue). The Purple Tunnel of Doom incident was merely incidential to the inaugural event. When this inauguration article was edited to get it to Featured Article status, we had to cut out a lot of excess informtation about the Purple Tunnel of Doom to what's in the article now. From what I can determine, the Purple Tunnel of Doom article is a fork of this article, since a lot what you see there used to be in this article. That expose added a lot of weight in the discussion of the inauguration with multiple paragraphs, and the mention of the incident was edited to what's now in the article. The expose of the Purple Tunnel incident would not be in context and germane with a discussion of a presidential inauguration, just like the damaged condition of the Mall. |
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<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.94.214.25|68.94.214.25]] ([[User talk:68.94.214.25|talk]]) 08:24, 20 January 2009</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP2 --> |
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::So...if the proposal is to move all contents of Purple Tunnel of Doom article to this article, I will only support a Delete of the Purple Tunnel article, since that article is really a fork of this inauguration article. The current mention and revision about the Purple Tunnel incident in the BHO inauguration article should be sufficient since it's within the context of the inaugural event. '''<span style="color:red;"><strong>→</strong></span>[[User:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">Lwalt</span>]]<sup> ♦ [[User talk:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>]]</sup>''' 13:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC) |
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:I've removed the external <code>|authorlink=</code> parameters you included in the sources. It's normally supposed to go to a Wikipedia article, not to an external link. Hope you don't mind. [[Special:Contributions/78.34.151.9|78.34.151.9]] ([[User talk:78.34.151.9|talk]]) 14:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Presidential Oath == |
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The claim that the Georgia 300 car was a part of Abraham Lincoln's train to Washington is not supported by the claimed source and is in conflict with the statement in the Wikipedia article on the Georgia 300 claiming that it was made in 1930. I hope someoone will correct this, as I am prevented from editing this article at present. [[User:MattTweedell|MattTweedell]] ([[User talk:MattTweedell|talk]]) 01:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Done; thanks for pointing it out. [[User:PhGustaf|PhGustaf]] ([[User talk:PhGustaf|talk]]) 02:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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The section regarding the oath flub as revised by another editor could mislead a reader to think that someone was talking over someone and was rude to the person. Since I couldn't recall precisely what I had actually heard when I attended the inaugural ceremony at The Mall, I decided to find a recording of the event. I revisited this event by watching the C-SPAN video and listened to the recording for this exchange. |
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== inauguration schedule == |
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The inauguration schedule is: |
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Here's what I found by listening to the C-SPAN recording: |
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# Biden is sworn in at 11:46 AM and Obama at 11:56 AM.[http://dc.about.com/b/2008/12/19/inauguration-swearing-in-ceremony.htm] |
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# Transition of office is at noon exactly ([[20th Amendment]]) |
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# Inaugural address starts at 12:01 (see link above). |
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* 35:04 Roberts started citing the oath to Obama, saying "I, Barrack Hussein Obama...." |
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Can someone fix the article? [[Special:Contributions/207.241.239.70|207.241.239.70]] ([[User talk:207.241.239.70|talk]]) 06:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* 35:05 Obama stumbled over his own name. He inserted the word "swear" after "Barrack," and then backtracked and stated "I, Barrack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear...." |
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== Celebrations at UTS == |
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In Toronto, Ontario, Canada, the University of Toronto Schools had a huge celebration which included many other schools in their auditorium at the same time. There were many people in the auditorium and very meaningful speeches were made showing that not only did the US care a lot about the inauguration but so did Canada. They even stood up for the national anthem and were all greatly moved by Obama's speech. After the inauguration when classes resumed, everybody was yelling "Obama! Obama!" so much that even the people in the streets outside could hear it. Truly this was an important event that should be mentioned. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.66.227.110|74.66.227.110]] ([[User talk:74.66.227.110|talk]]) 07:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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* 35:10 Roberts then cited "that I will execute the Office of President to the United States faithfully...." |
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== Obama Home States Ball == |
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We might as well call that a [[luau]], given that it's half Hawaiian anyway. <nowiki></nowiki> — [[User:Rickyrab|Rickyrab]] | [[User talk:Rickyrab|Talk]] 15:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* Obama then said "and I'll execute...." (35:15) before pausing and waiting for Roberts to correct the phrase about executing the Office of President of the United States. |
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== Inauguration of president == |
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It occurred at 17:06 UTC, for anyone who wants to add it to the article. '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Stwalkerster|<span style="color:green">Stwalkerster</span>]] [ [[User talk:Stwalkerster|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]] ]</font>''' 17:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* While Roberts tried to correct his mistake in citing the oath, Obama jumped right in (35:21), saying "the Office of President of the United States faithfully...." right after Roberts said "Office...." |
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His speech just finished now at 12.26 (17.26) [[Special:Contributions/78.145.211.57|78.145.211.57]] ([[User talk:78.145.211.57|talk]]) 17:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Text of presidential oath == |
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Obama and Chief Justice Roberts mixed up the placement of the word "faithfully" in the oath of office. Although I'm sure this event will surely give rise to a new cottage industry of conspiracy theories (!), I imagine it should probably be mentioned even if (as I assume) there is no real doubt that Obama is in fact the 44th President. Comments? [[User:Richwales|Richwales]] ([[User talk:Richwales|talk]]) 17:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:My understanding of the Constitution is that, simply by being alive at noon DC time, Obama is the President. Now, he can't do anything with that power until he takes the oath specified in the Constitution, which I don't think he did precisely. However, there's nothing keeping President Obama from taking the correct oath anytime. It doesn't have to be the Chief Justice doing it, nor does it have to be televised. I imagine they'll round up a notary and do it correctly within the hour. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/129.22.52.19|129.22.52.19]] ([[User talk:129.22.52.19|talk]]) 17:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Indeed. Lyndon B. Johnson was [[Lyndon_B._Johnson#Assassination_of_President_John_F._Kennedy | sworn in]] by a "normal" Federal judge on Air Force One; as for "requiring" TV coverage...well, when was TV invented again...? I'd imagine it just has to be witnessed, so if there's a problem it can and will be fixed very soon. [[User:Marks87|Marks87]] ([[User talk:Marks87|talk]]) |
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:::He needs to use the exact wording (and being alive at noon isn't sufficient), but surely someone in the administration would notice this and take care of the problem as you note above. And if a federal judge can do it, [[Calvin Coolidge]] was sworn in by his father, some sort of minor local official. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 19:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Oops, I'm the 2nd commenter here, that wasn't logged in. Coolidge's father was himself a notary public, which I think is just a person authorized to give oaths, make affidavits official, etc. I'm not sure, however, if the President needs anyone to give him the oath, or if being recorded/witnessed saying the oath (correctly) is enough to make it good. This can, technically, get hairy because the first thing Obama did as President, after sending off GWB, was to sign the cabinet nomination papers. If he didn't take the oath correctly before that, the case could be made that it didn't count. It's all academic though; I seriously doubt any court would hold that he couldn't "enter on the execution of his office" because he transposed a couple words in the oath. It would take pretty big stones to do that, frankly (even if it's the technically correct ruling). Does anyone know of precedent where a President did not precisely say the oath the first time around?[[User:Vbdrummer0|Vbdrummer0]] ([[User talk:Vbdrummer0|talk]]) 21:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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''Discussion has been merged with [[Talk:Oath_of_office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States#Misplacement_of_word_.22faithfully.22_in_Obama.27s_oath]].'' [[Special:Contributions/71.37.55.209|71.37.55.209]] ([[User talk:71.37.55.209|talk]]) 20:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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"So help you, God?" Is correct and not a mistake by Roberts and should be removed from the article. "you" is always said by the person administering the oath since otherwise they too would have taken the oath! ([[User:Maxkon|Maxkon]] ([[User talk:Maxkon|talk]]) 08:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)) |
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* Video: C-SPAN (2009-01-20), President Obama 2009 Inaugural Ceremony, http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/283479-1 |
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* Claiming that Obama "interrupted" Roberts is a biased statement. There is no standard way of breaking up the Oath for repetition, in 2005 it was broken up as Obama expected (I, GWB -- repeat -- do solemnly swear -- repeat<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2B8-RME13I</ref>), while others were recited in a single block as Roberts wanted to do it ("I, xxx, do solemnly swear" -- repeat <ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQhWtRW-KKA</ref>). Wiki shouldn't put blame on either party, just state the facts. This was actually a minor glitch as they correctly finished this part, it seems to me that this "interruption" is used as an excuse to explain what confused Roberts and mitigate his "faithfully" glitch. |
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* Transcript: ABC News (2009-01-20), The inaugural oath: Chief Justice slip up, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2009/01/the-inuagural-o/ |
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* Transcript: United Press International (2009-01-20), The oath of office taken by Pres. Obama, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/20/The-oath-of-office-taken-by-Pres-Obama/UPI-40181232472806/ |
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I listened to the video first, and then cross-referenced that by looking for transcripts from news organizations (interestingly, though, one transcript stated that Obama said "I will execute," but I heard "I'll execute" on the C-SPAN recording). From what I've found on the C-SPAN video, Obama did not talk over Roberts. So, to state in a general sense that Obama "spoke over him" (referring to Roberts) is not accurate, as this implied that Obama and Roberts were speaking at the same time. As revised, this seemed to be the opinion of the writer, which could looked upon as one [[WP:NPOV|point of view]]. |
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* The oath is either administered in second person (You, BHO, do solemnly ... ) or in first person for literal recital. So help you God is certainly possible, BUT it seems inconsistent as Roberts started in first person, "I, BHO, ..." See historical footages: <ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQhWtRW-KKA</ref>[[User:Gligeti|Gligeti]] ([[User talk:Gligeti|talk]]) 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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This section will be revised to reflect a summary of what occurred during this event because, as edited, readers could be mislead to believe that people were speaking over one another. Besides, I thought that this issue was resolved long ago when the editors came to a consensus for putting together this section, since the focus was supposed to be the oath flubbing by Roberts. '''<span style="color:red;"><strong>→</strong></span>[[User:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">Lwalt</span>]]<sup> ♦ [[User talk:Lwalt|<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>]]</sup>''' 22:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
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Obama just took the oath again. See Drudgereport.com <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.83.164.138|66.83.164.138]] ([[User talk:66.83.164.138|talk]]) 01:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Move request== |
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Per Obama's re-election, move page and associated talk page to [[First inauguration of Barack Obama]]. [[User:Tktru|Tktru]] ([[User talk:Tktru|talk]]) 09:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Please remove the false claim that Obama has said that using his middle name in the ceremony is ''part of an effort to "reboot America's image around the world,'' Obama says explicitly in the source quoted: "I'm not trying to make a statement one way or another. I'll do what everybody else does."--[[Special:Contributions/80.216.227.49|80.216.227.49]] ([[User talk:80.216.227.49|talk]]) 17:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Why was the 'move' mechanizism removed from this article? [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''', although, it's not until January 20, 2013. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 20:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:Agreed, this statement needs to be removed |
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[[Special:Contributions/156.101.1.5|156.101.1.5]] ([[User talk:156.101.1.5|talk]]) 17:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:'''Strongly support''', as [[Second inauguration of Barack Obama|the second-inauguration article]] will be actively edited well before January 20; the present title should become a disambig page between the two inauguration articles (like [[Inauguration of George W. Bush]]). I'm not 100% sure why the "move" mechanism is missing, but I suspect it's due to the general article probation on all Obama-related articles (see top of this talk page). --[[User:RBBrittain|RBBrittain]] ([[User talk:RBBrittain|talk]]) 23:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::According to the CBS announcers (Katie Couric and colleagues), Richard Nixon only used his middle initial. So I'm not sure that it would have broken with tradition for Obama to do the same. [[User:Xargque|Xargque]] ([[User talk:Xargque|talk]]) 20:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I have added the move request to [[WP:RM/TR]] so admins can look into it. If that doesn't work, I'll try it another way. --[[User:RBBrittain|RBBrittain]] ([[User talk:RBBrittain|talk]]) 00:07, 11 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Request for Move == |
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Shouldn't this article be named simply [[United States Presidential Inauguration, 2009]]? It would seem more consistent with other politics/elections related articles, like [[United States presidential election, 2008]]. As an above poster stated, there are no other articles about inaugurations, but I think instead of removing this one, that those should be created. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''[[User:Godheval|Godheval]]'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>[[User_talk:Godheval|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Godheval|C]] [[Special:Watchlist/Godheval|W]]</sup></span> 17:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I agree.--[[User:Friedrich von Königsberg|Friedrich von Königsberg]] ([[User talk:Friedrich von Königsberg|talk]]) 17:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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I agree[[Special:Contributions/156.101.1.5|156.101.1.5]] ([[User talk:156.101.1.5|talk]]) 18:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Agree, it should probably be "presidential inauguration", rather than "Presidential Inauguration". [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 19:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Although this move has already been completed, it did not follow the guideline at [[WP:FIXDABLINKS]] -- |
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The move template has been added to this page, and the request has been made over at [[WP:RM]]. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''[[User:Godheval|Godheval]]'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>[[User_talk:Godheval|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Godheval|C]] [[Special:Watchlist/Godheval|W]]</sup></span> 21:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::'''A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.''' |
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::''Before'' moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on <u>What links here</u> to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name. |
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: It would be appreciated if users interested in this topic would go back and fix all the pages that contain [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Inauguration of Barack Obama|links to "Inauguration of Barack Obama"]] so that they take the reader to the correct article. Thank you. --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 11:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC) |
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::{{done}}. [[User:TJRC|TJRC]] ([[User talk:TJRC|talk]]) 01:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC) |
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: I was going to propose that article be renamed and moved, pending the outcome of this suggestion. It would be prudent to bring all such articles in line with the same formatting. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''[[User:Godheval|Godheval]]'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>[[User_talk:Godheval|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Godheval|C]] [[Special:Watchlist/Godheval|W]]</sup></span> 22:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Weather conditions== |
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::My vote would be for [[2009 United States presidential inauguration]]. It makes the most sense. There is no need to include the president's name in the title, as it will be apparent in the article. (Use for example the [[2008 Summer Olympics]] page as an example, which is NOT located at Beijing 2008 Summer Olympics.) [[User:Jared|<font color="#0084C9">Jared</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Jared|<font color="#009E49">(''t'')</font>]]</small>  02:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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I could not find in the article what was the weather like that day. In my opinion, such comprehensive article should contain this sort of information, for one thing, because of the character of the event (i.e. open-air event, assembly of a large number of people). Thank you for adding this information. [[Special:Contributions/94.113.5.35|94.113.5.35]] ([[User talk:94.113.5.35|talk]]) 12:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC) |
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::: Yeah, [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] said the same thing, and that's how I named the [[WP:RM]] request. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''[[User:Godheval|Godheval]]'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>[[User_talk:Godheval|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Godheval|C]] [[Special:Watchlist/Godheval|W]]</sup></span> 14:50, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== "No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration." == |
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So we have '''5 votes in favor''' of the move and '''1 vote against'''. Does anyone else wish to weigh in on this? If not, then I am going to call it a consensus and move it, followed by making a request that the Andrew Jackson inauguration be renamed as well for consistency. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''[[User:Godheval|Godheval]]'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>[[User_talk:Godheval|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Godheval|C]] [[Special:Watchlist/Godheval|W]]</sup></span> 18:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_inauguration_of_Barack_Obama&diff=557505767&oldid=553139773 Removed] by myself, summary {{tq|So what? No one would be interested in this if not for the fringe theories about Obama, and, since we ignore fringe theories here, the sentence doesn't serve any valid encyclopedic purpose}} |
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:Agree. It'd be nice to scrounge up information on other inaugurations as well too. [[User:Farkeld|Farkeld]] ([[User talk:Farkeld|talk]]) 19:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_inauguration_of_Barack_Obama&diff=557624140&oldid=557505767 Reverted] by {{User|TonyTheTiger}}, summary {{tq|rv content removal. As a tertiary resource, we summarize 2ndary sources}} |
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Okay, cool, let's do that consensus thingy. I think it's overly broad to simply say "we summarize secondary sources". We also decide which pieces of information presented in secondary sources. I'm not saying we should be white-washing history or anything. But clearly we don't report every single thing every secondary source says; instead, we consider various criteria as to the encyclopedic relevance of a point. I don't find the lack of a Bible encyclopedically relevant. We wouldn't be discussing it if it were George Bush or Bill Clinton, and while certainly fringe theories can be ''discussed'' on Wikipedia—in this case at [[Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories]]—material shouldn't be included in related articles if it only means anything to purveyors of fringe theories. The encyclopedic weight of the sentence "No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration" is far lower than the ideological weight, which, in my opinion, makes it unsuitable for inclusion in an article.''' — <u>[[User:PinkAmpersand|<span style="color:#000;">PinkAmpers</span>]][[User:PinkAmpersand/Pink|<span style="color:#FF1493;">&</span>]]</u>'''[[User talk:PinkAmpersand|<sup style="color:#000;">(<u>''Je vous invite à me parler''</u>)</sup>]] 11:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC) |
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**Have you noted that [[Oath of office of the President of the United States]] has a special section devoted to "[[Oath of office of the President of the United States#Use of Bibles]]". Use of Bibles is considered encyclopedic for this topic.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|BIO]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:FOUR]]) </small> 13:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC) |
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=="forebears"?== |
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:<strike>Agree, new title would fit in with many other articles titled 'United States presidential...', in particular [[United States presidential inauguration]]</strike> - '''[[User:Chrism|Chrism]]''' ''[[User_talk:Chrism|would like to hear from you]]'' 00:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::On second thoughts, it appears that several other inauguration articles (not just the Jackson one) exist and are all titled by the name of the president as well. While I still think the proposed format is better, its probably best to come to a consensus on how all these articles should be titled rather than just moving this one atm. - '''[[User:Chrism|Chrism]]''' ''[[User_talk:Chrism|would like to hear from you]]'' 02:23, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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The Wikisource text of Mr Obama's First Inaugural Address spells the word as "forbearers." This follows |
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:Agree with the move and adjustment in other articles. [[User:Mikemill|Mikemill]] ([[User talk:Mikemill|talk]]) 00:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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the transcription released to the press before the address, and the transcription originally published |
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by The New York Times (but not The Washington Post) but later corrected to "forebears." It has never been |
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clear who was responsible for the variant spelling; Mr Obama has been reported to have written the speech |
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on his Blackberry without spell correction. The etymology of the word "forebears" has the prefix "fore" to |
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indicate "coming before" and the usual expression of Lincoln and other eloquent rhetoric is "forefathers" |
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but Mr Obama apparently wished to avoid sexism and so chose another word. However, the usual meaning of |
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"forbear" is to abstain not precede. According to Google corpus, "forbearer" has been used in place of |
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"forebear" a few times, but greatly outnumbered in that meaning by "forebear." Since when you listen to |
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the audio of the speech, Mr Obama does not enunciate the last syllable of "forbearers," should the |
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historical text use the spelling "forebears" or "forbearers"? |
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:I would suggest asking at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Barack Obama]] or [[Talk:Barack Obama]].--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 22:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC) |
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::There's no reason to change a de facto namespace standerd. Remember we'd have to get consensus to move each of the eight or so pages that now are titled like this one. That's a lot of work for no particular vallue. [[User:PhGustaf|PhGustaf]] ([[User talk:PhGustaf|talk]]) 02:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Related articles == |
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Should there be any particular inaugurations listed here? In my opinion listing specific presidential inaugrations could be viewed as an attempt to compare President Obama to those particular Presidents, making the specific links somewhat biased. Perhaps either list the article for the inaugural process in general, or a list of all US Presidential Inaugurations. After all, there are only 43 others... [[Special:Contributions/156.101.1.5|156.101.1.5]] ([[User talk:156.101.1.5|talk]]) 17:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:: It seems like the related articles currently listed have just been randomly placed there without any relevance to the current article. [[User:Btornado|Btornado]] ([[User talk:Btornado|talk]]) 18:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Eisenhower's stands out as notable. Dwight David Eisenhower took the oath of office on Tuesday, January 20, 1953. It was the most elaborate inaugural pageant ever held. About 22,000 service men and women and 5,000 civilians were in the parade, which included 50 state and organization floats costing $100,000. There were also 65 musical units, 350 horses, 3 elephants, an Alaskan dog team, and the 280-millimeter atomic cannon. |
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== Infrastructure improvements == |
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Perhaps we should mention the infrastructure improvements (such as the facilities brought in for the crowd of 2 million) in Washington D.C.? The NY Times has published articles about the strain on the communications network. And, we should definitely add the note about how the wireless carriers are asking people to text instead of sending data. |
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== Finding a free high quality recording and/or video == |
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I have been searching the internet for a official recording by the government but I have not found one yet. When some one finds one uploaded quickly. [[User:Zginder|Z]][[User Talk:Zginder|gin]][[Special:Contributions/Zginder|der]] 2009-01-20T19:26Z ([[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]]) |
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== Michelle's Gown == |
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I was a trifle disappointed to see someone completely delete my discussion of her gown, which I thought was perfectly placed after the discussion of Barack's tux, and replace it with a discussion of the dress she wore this afternoon - not the right spot! I did hear on the news that Maria Pinto was the designer she had chosen for her gown - how would I cite this to make sure it stays in the article? [[User:FlaviaR|FlaviaR]] ([[User talk:FlaviaR|talk]]) 19:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Senator Ted Kennedy's Illness == |
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To what extent should the apparent illness of Senator Ted Kennedy be covered in this article? [[User:PinkWorld|PinkWorld]] ([[User talk:PinkWorld|talk]]) 19:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Pink |
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:I think it should be mentionned, but Wikinews is in a much better position to cover events so current -'''[[User:M.nelson|M.Nelson]]''' ([[User talk:M.nelson|talk]]) 20:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Probably worthy a small message (for Byrd and Kennedy). Of course if it turns out more serious we'd have to revise. [[User:Joshdboz|Joshdboz]] ([[User talk:Joshdboz|talk]]) 20:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Please add that it was speculated that senator Byrd was distraught over Kennedys health on the luncheon at the time of the collapse. Earlier reports said that it was Byrd with the health problems but it was revealed in fact to be Teddy. Remember the first time when Ted Kennedy had these seizures some months ago? Senator Byrd was extremely distraught and sobbing on the senate floor then quite dramatically. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCwwCCQozPM <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jkpi80|Jkpi80]] ([[User talk:Jkpi80|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jkpi80|contribs]]) 12:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== How long before this article gets deleted? == |
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It reeks of recentism. The only inauguration which has its own article is the 1829 one, and I really doubt this one will be special; the article is full of mediocrity and really isn't important. I don't see why it exists other than recentism. [[Special:Contributions/207.55.124.60|207.55.124.60]] ([[User talk:207.55.124.60|talk]]) 20:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:It won't. This event is too notable. Reaching a delete consensus in an AFD would, at least in my opnion, be '''highly''' unlikely. Also, problems with tone are not a reason for deletion. If you see a problems with the tone, [[WP:BOLD|be bold]] and fix them. [[User:Umbralcorax|Umbralcorax]] ([[User talk:Umbralcorax|talk]]) 22:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:The fact that there aren't articles on the other inaugurations indicates that people need to do the research and create those articles, not that this one needs to be deleted. The peaceful transition of power is highly significant, particularly to Americans. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mbroderick271|Mbroderick271]] ([[User talk:Mbroderick271|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mbroderick271|contribs]]) 22:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Presidential Statement During the Parade== |
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It is known and quickly becoming very popular part that President Obama told Al Roker that "It's Warm" During the walk. Why was this removed? It may be a small peice, but it's something that people will be talking about. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fireicefalcon|Fireicefalcon]] ([[User talk:Fireicefalcon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fireicefalcon|contribs]]) 22:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Aretha Franklin's song == |
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Does anyone know what song Aretha Franklin sung at the inauguration? My ears must be playing tricks on me because the tune sounded like the British national Anthem, ''God Save Our Queen'' ???? [[User:Bleaney|Bleaney]] ([[User talk:Bleaney|talk]]) 22:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Actually, "God Save the Queen" and "My Country Tis of Thee" have the same tune, more or less. She sang "My Country Tis of Thee". -''MADELEINE'' <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.166.26.192|68.166.26.192]] ([[User talk:68.166.26.192|talk]]) 22:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Public domain video == |
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I have just [[:File:USNPS - Inauguration 2009.ogg|uploaded]] a USNPS video detailing event preparations. Does anyone know if Federal video exists of the inauguration itself? <span style="background:black;color:white"> '''''— '''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C M B J'''''</span>]] </span> 00:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:According to whitehouse.gov [http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/change_has_come_to_whitehouse-gov/], ''"Later today, we’ll put up the video and the full text of President Obama’s Inaugural Address. There will also be slideshows of the Inaugural events, the Obamas’ move into the White House, and President Obama’s first days in office."'' So keep checking that site I guess. [[Special:Contributions/163.1.146.3|163.1.146.3]] ([[User talk:163.1.146.3|talk]]) 01:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Official Balls== |
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CNN is reporting 19 balls that the Obamas are expected to attend. [[User:CFLeon|CFLeon]] ([[User talk:CFLeon|talk]]) 01:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Actually, they've reported 10 official balls. - [[User:Ageekgal|Ageekgal]] ([[User talk:Ageekgal|talk]]) 02:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Obama's "Official Balls"? -- That sounds like something [[Amber Lee Ettinger|Obama Girl]] would be more interested in than Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/76.233.78.160|76.233.78.160]] ([[User talk:76.233.78.160|talk]]) 03:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Also... only 49 states are listed as partaking in Balls... Idaho and Wyoming are not included in the "Western Ball" Should they be? They are, after all, western states.[[User:Moonraker0022|Moonraker0022]] ([[User talk:Moonraker0022|talk]]) 23:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==When did Obama legally become president?== |
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Because the ceremony ran longer than normal, Obama legally became President at 12:00PM EST, before being sworn in, per the Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution.[15] |
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:Um, if you read the text of the Twentieth Amendment to the United States Constitution, it does ''not'' say that the President-elect legally becomes President at noon on January 20. It says that the term of the previous President officially ''ends'' at that time. Theoretically, therefore, this seems to mean that for just a few minutes after noon on January 20, no one was actually President. --[[User:Susurrus|Susurrus]] ([[User talk:Susurrus|talk]]) 03:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Actually, you're wrong. The text of the 20th Amendment actually states: "The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January ... and the terms of their successors shall then begin." Therefore Bush left office at exactly noon and Obama took office at exactly noon. [[User:OptimumPx|OptimumPx]] ([[User talk:OptimumPx|talk]]) 04:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::The above poster is correct. This issue also relates to the conspiracy theorists who will try to claim that he is not the President because he did not recite the required oath of office ver batim. Per the 20th Amendment, as stated above, he officially became the President at exactly 12:00 noon EST. However, he technically could not perform any duties of that office until he was properly sworn in (which merely has to be witnessed, not televised, and was most likely completed correctly within the hour). [[Special:Contributions/156.101.1.5|156.101.1.5]] ([[User talk:156.101.1.5|talk]]) 19:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I was going to repost today to say that I have since discovered my mistake, but yes, I see where it says "...and the terms of their successors shall then begin.". --[[User:Susurrus|Susurrus]] ([[User talk:Susurrus|talk]]) 22:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Obama first president to mix up oath?== |
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Is Obama the first president in US history (as far as it's known) to have mixed up the words in his inaugural oath? I so, it should be mentioned in the article.--[[User:Jeanne boleyn|jeanne]] ([[User talk:Jeanne boleyn|talk]]) 05:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Nope. And Obama didn't mix up the words, the CJ did as he read them to Obama. [[User:NJMauthor|NJMauthor]] ([[User talk:NJMauthor|talk]]) 15:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::That is correct. Chief Justice Roberts incorrectly recited the words to Obama, which made Obama misspeak, although Obama did interupt Roberts just before that. The mistake was Roberts and it could of just been nerves. It was Roberts first swearing in of a president. Its nothing to worry about. The 20th amendment doesn't even mention the oath, so the oath is only a traditional holdover, and not needed in the current interpretation of the constitution. At least thats how I see it--[[User:Jojhutton|Jojhutton]] ([[User talk:Jojhutton|talk]]) 17:50, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Actually it is a requirement. Article II Section I Clause 8 states "Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." He ''became'' the President at 12:00pm EST, but he cannot ''execute'' any of his duties as the chief executive until the oath is taken. Either way, he is still the President, and I am sure that the oath was taken again in the correct way within the hour just to avoid any issues. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/156.101.1.5|156.101.1.5]] ([[User talk:156.101.1.5|talk]]) 20:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::Obama didn't interrupt Roberts. Rorberts paused long enough to imply that Obama should repeat after him and as Obama started to repeat (i.e., his name), Roberts started to continue, forcing Obama to repeat the entire thing.--[[User:RossF18|RossF18]] ([[User talk:RossF18|talk]]) 20:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Preliminaries == |
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The article currently states under Preliminaries "Obama began by holding a town hall meeting in Philadelphia's 30th Street Station at 10 a.m. on January 17. At 11:30 a.m." Is it accurate to call the meeting held in Philadelphia a [[town hall meeting]]? It was not a meeting of people from a local region, nor was it public. It was an invite-only meeting of 250 campaign volunteers (and possibly others) from all over. [[User:Centerone|Centerone]] ([[User talk:Centerone|talk]]) 08:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Man with blue scarf in lead photo== |
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Who is the man with the blue scarf in the lead photo? He is also shown using a small camera during the oath. His photo would be a valuable record here! - [[User:Peter_Ellis|Peter Ellis]] - [[User_talk:Peter_Ellis|Talk]] 08:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Number attending== |
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One report that I was just reading estimates the crowd at 800,000 from satellite images. Which is the correct figure? [http://www.asuwebdevil.com/node/3654 Professor estimates crowds with satellite image] --[[User:Jmb|jmb]] ([[User talk:Jmb|talk]]) 11:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Has anyone actually looked at the reference for the 1.8 million in attendance? The cited article does not make that claim. Additionally, the 1.8 million is total ridership for the day, which includes going to and coming from the ceremony. Also it includes people who took it to work. So this is at least a two fold over estimate. Also, the Post had a great bit about the actual capacity of the crowd the day before. it could only come close to 2 million if people were packed (to the point of not being able to move) back to the lincoln memorial. And this was not the case. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.178.141.29|71.178.141.29]] ([[User talk:71.178.141.29|talk]]) 01:30, 22 January 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== International Attention (Jakarta, Indonesia) == |
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I noted the section. You might want to add several things (I would not add it because I am not sure how the article is organised, and prefer to leave it to someone who knows better): |
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[http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/01/20/22143039/dubes.as.hati.obama.juga.di.indonesia] [http://www.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/01/20/20595989/pesta.meriah.untuk.obama.di.jakarta] |
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This event involves Obama's sister [[Maya Soetoro-Ng]] making a direct call to Jakarta on the eve of inauguration, the message from President of Indonesia and the ambassador of United States to Indonesia. This is in Indonesian, so you might want to translate it via google, then search for English source. [[User:W Tanoto|w_tanoto]] ([[User talk:W Tanoto|talk]]) 14:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Wikisource == |
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I suggest include the full text of the Inauguration Address in [[Wikisource]]. --[[User:Nopetro|Nopetro]] ([[User talk:Nopetro|talk]]) 14:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Hussein== |
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Why, when President Bush was introduced by the MC as 'George Walker Bush' did he then introduce President Obama as 'Barack H. Obama', Why one earth didn't he say Hussein instead of 'H.'? It's the man's name, after all, and it is very odd not to have consistency of style. Who would have made the decision? [[Special:Contributions/86.133.244.80|86.133.244.80]] ([[User talk:86.133.244.80|talk]]) 16:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I don't suppose anyone can speak for anyone else, so we may never know. Anyway, please keep discussions on topic to the ''article'', not the subject of the article. Regards, [[User:Matthewedwards|Matthewedwards]] ([[User talk:Matthewedwards|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Matthewedwards|contribs]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Emailuser/Matthewedwards|email]]) 16:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::The MC probably read the introduction as written on the telepromter or whatever. If Bush 41 was in attendance (or expected to be when the intro was written), it might have been done to distinquish the two. The two Bushes have sometimes been confused when people weren't careful to clarify which one was meant. [[User:CFLeon|CFLeon]] ([[User talk:CFLeon|talk]]) 20:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::My understanding is that all the printed programs, tickets, etc. has been printed with "Barack H. Obama" before he decided to use his full middle name. So the announcer was likely just reading. Of no value to the article. [[User:PhGustaf|PhGustaf]] ([[User talk:PhGustaf|talk]]) 00:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Why not a section on the inauguration speech?? == |
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No mention of the speech at all? Is there a concious reason for this, or am I missing something?--[[User:Jojhutton|Jojhutton]] ([[User talk:Jojhutton|talk]]) 17:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:[[Talk:Barack_Obama#Failure_to_take_the_correct_oath_of_office]] –[[User:Juliancolton|Juliancolton]] [[User talk:Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''T'''ropical</sup></font>]] [[Special:contributions/Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''C'''yclone</sup></font>]] 17:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::What does that have to do with what I am proposing here????--[[User:Jojhutton|Jojhutton]] ([[User talk:Jojhutton|talk]]) 18:17, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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This [http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/01/21/obama-world.html CBC article] threw out the completely unsourced figure of "an estimated worldwide television audience of more than 2 billion people". Has anyone seen anything similar? [[User:Joshdboz|Joshdboz]] ([[User talk:Joshdboz|talk]]) 17:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:NBC provided an (admittedly) unsourced number of 5 billion viewers, presumably including the number of people that ''will'' see it during the coming days. <span style="background:black;color:white"> '''''— '''''[[User:CMBJ|<span style="background:black;color:white">'''''C M B J'''''</span>]] </span> 19:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::I have no doubt that many more people will see it in the coming days, but we should only include the actual numbers who saw it live. That number may be difficult to gauge.--[[User:Jojhutton|Jojhutton]] ([[User talk:Jojhutton|talk]]) 20:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== 23*10+12=232? == |
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The "Inaugural luncheon" section states, "There was seating at the Statuary Hall luncheon for 232 people: 23 tables of 10 people, plus 12 seats at Obama's head table." The breakout of the tables indicates 242 seats to me. Or, perhaps the number of tables is wrong. However, the same math error appears in the cited reference for this statement. How to handle this? I'm tempted just to delete that statement, as I'm not sure the number of seats (not even the number of actual attendees) is noteworthy. [[User:Chuck Carroll|Chuck]] ([[User talk:Chuck Carroll|talk]]) 19:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Not noteworthy, I agree.--[[User:Jojhutton|Jojhutton]] ([[User talk:Jojhutton|talk]]) 20:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:I noticed this too. It is obviously false information so I'm deleting it. [[Special:Contributions/209.242.154.132|209.242.154.132]] ([[User talk:209.242.154.132|talk]]) 20:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't the lede specifically state that Obama was the first African-American President to be inagurated? [[Special:Contributions/68.46.43.198|68.46.43.198]] ([[User talk:68.46.43.198|talk]]) 22:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* '''[[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration]] → [[United States presidential inauguration, 2009]]'''? – in keeping with WP politics/elections formatting, e.g. [[United States presidential election, 2008]] —<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">'''[[User:Godheval|Godheval]]'''</span><span style="font-size:0.9em;"><sup>[[User_talk:Godheval|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Godheval|C]] [[Special:Watchlist/Godheval|W]]</sup></span> 21:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose'''. It is the person that makes the inauguration significant, not the country, therefore it is properly named. See below. [[Special:Contributions/199.125.109.126|199.125.109.126]] ([[User talk:199.125.109.126|talk]]) 02:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' per reason given. Also, the current name reads like a newspaper story. It seems kinda unnatural a title. [[Special:Contributions/163.1.146.17|163.1.146.17]] ([[User talk:163.1.146.17|talk]]) 02:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Is there an article about any other inauguration? I can't find any. --[[User:Born2cycle|Born2cycle]] ([[User talk:Born2cycle|talk]]) 23:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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: I found one: [[Andrew Jackson 1829 presidential inauguration]]. Any others? --[[User:Born2cycle|Born2cycle]] ([[User talk:Born2cycle|talk]]) 23:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Looking at the blue links in [[Template:US inaugurations]], it appears that there are articles for [[George Washington 1789 presidential inauguration|1789]], [[Andrew Jackson 1829 presidential inauguration|1829]], [[William Henry Harrison 1841 presidential inauguration|1841]], [[Abraham Lincoln 1861 presidential inauguration|1861]], [[Calvin Coolidge 1923 presidential inauguration|1923]], [[Harry S. Truman 1945 presidential inauguration|1945]], [[John F. Kennedy 1961 presidential inauguration|1961]], [[Lyndon B. Johnson 1963 presidential inauguration|1963]], [[Gerald Ford 1974 presidential inauguration|1974]], and (of course) [[Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration|2009]]. Note that all of the existing articles have a title format that matches the format of this article. --[[User:Allan McInnes|Allan McInnes]] <small>([[User talk:Allan McInnes|talk]])</small> 00:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::It seems to me as if a namespace convention has been established. No goo reason to change it. [[User:PhGustaf|PhGustaf]] ([[User talk:PhGustaf|talk]]) 00:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*''WorldNetDaily'' is not a reliable source. Although it may accurately portray Limbaugh's opinion, there is not indication that this is a significant viewpoint per [[WP:WEIGHT]]. |
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*''HCD Research'' is published by Press Release Point, a PR site that allows clients to submit press releases with no vetting or oversight. At best it is a primary source for the raw survey data, and "Democrats disagreed" is a gross oversimplification of that data. |
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*''The Economist'' mentions a positive reaction to the benediction by an unnamed "liberal blogger/pastor" but does not say anything about racism. |
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*''The New Yorker'' discusses the benediction but, again, does not mention racism. |
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Although there are several sources that may be used to discuss general reactions to the benediction, there is not strong RS support for the racism narrative; in fact these sources do not mention anyone other than Limbaugh getting offended. This is a fringe viewpoint that should not be covered here. –[[User:Dlthewave|dlthewave]] [[User_talk:Dlthewave|☎]] 23:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC) |
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*I am not an expert on politics. Experts on this issue would probably respond to an [[WP:RFC]].-[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 00:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC) |
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::You don't need to be an expert on politics to check whether or not the sources support the claims that are being made. An RfC seems unnecessary at this time. –[[User:Dlthewave|dlthewave]] [[User_talk:Dlthewave|☎]] 05:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC) |
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I think that there should be a small note about the few protesters at the inauguration: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/politics/21web-protests.html [[User:Victorgrigas|Victor Grigas]] ([[User talk:Victorgrigas|talk]]) 23:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC) |
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The White House have now uploaded a video of the Inaugural Address. [http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/inaugural-address/] Can somehow who knows how, upload it to Wikipedia, since it's on a US Government website and therefore in the public domain? [[Special:Contributions/163.1.146.17|163.1.146.17]] ([[User talk:163.1.146.17|talk]]) 02:55, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Assassination Attempt
Didn't someone try to shoot him at his inauguration? Someone told me that when Obama was walking on the street someone popped up with a gun but got tackled by security. Emperor001 (talk) 22:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
False alarm terror attack
Does this description of a false alarm deserve reporting? Reuters had something on it too, I believe, at the time of the inauguration. Bsimmons666 (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- I added a sentence.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Deleted info from article about condition of Mall grounds
I removed the info from the article regarding the condition of the Mall grounds, since the paragraph where this info was inserted focuses mostly on crowd counts, with a lesser mention about the mishandling of crowd control related to the widely-reported "Purple Ticket" incident. With the number of people who were on the Mall grounds to witness the inauguration, it goes without saying that the vegetation on the grounds would have been damaged. To reinsert the removed content, it needs to made relevant to crowd control theme of the paragraph, rather than placing undue weight on something not more directly related to the inauguration itself. As an example of of the viewpoint expressed here, I gather that the removed content could equally apply to the yearly Independence Day event that takes place on the Mall, but the condition of the Mall grounds is not the focus (or germane) to that event, either. →Lwalt ♦ talk 17:40, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Merger Proposal
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Following this discussion, small amount of information was merged. Cnilep (talk) 19:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
It was suggested in January, 2009 that the standalone article Purple Tunnel of Doom be merged into this one. I think that would be appropriate to the topic's importance, when seen in retrospect. betsythedevine (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support - either merge the page to this one or delete it. The nickname appears to have only existed temporarily in discussions of the inauguration. Cnilep (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- Support - merge as proposed. Freikorp (talk) 06:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
- Comment I would only support a merge of the Purple Tunnel of Doom article into this one only if the content is handled the same as the issue we had a while back about the condition of the Mall (see my comments above about Mall condition issue). The Purple Tunnel of Doom incident was merely incidential to the inaugural event. When this inauguration article was edited to get it to Featured Article status, we had to cut out a lot of excess informtation about the Purple Tunnel of Doom to what's in the article now. From what I can determine, the Purple Tunnel of Doom article is a fork of this article, since a lot what you see there used to be in this article. That expose added a lot of weight in the discussion of the inauguration with multiple paragraphs, and the mention of the incident was edited to what's now in the article. The expose of the Purple Tunnel incident would not be in context and germane with a discussion of a presidential inauguration, just like the damaged condition of the Mall.
- So...if the proposal is to move all contents of Purple Tunnel of Doom article to this article, I will only support a Delete of the Purple Tunnel article, since that article is really a fork of this inauguration article. The current mention and revision about the Purple Tunnel incident in the BHO inauguration article should be sufficient since it's within the context of the inaugural event. →Lwalt ♦ talk 13:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Presidential Oath
The section regarding the oath flub as revised by another editor could mislead a reader to think that someone was talking over someone and was rude to the person. Since I couldn't recall precisely what I had actually heard when I attended the inaugural ceremony at The Mall, I decided to find a recording of the event. I revisited this event by watching the C-SPAN video and listened to the recording for this exchange.
Here's what I found by listening to the C-SPAN recording:
- 35:04 Roberts started citing the oath to Obama, saying "I, Barrack Hussein Obama...."
- 35:05 Obama stumbled over his own name. He inserted the word "swear" after "Barrack," and then backtracked and stated "I, Barrack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear...."
- 35:10 Roberts then cited "that I will execute the Office of President to the United States faithfully...."
- Obama then said "and I'll execute...." (35:15) before pausing and waiting for Roberts to correct the phrase about executing the Office of President of the United States.
- While Roberts tried to correct his mistake in citing the oath, Obama jumped right in (35:21), saying "the Office of President of the United States faithfully...." right after Roberts said "Office...."
Sources:
- Video: C-SPAN (2009-01-20), President Obama 2009 Inaugural Ceremony, http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/283479-1
- Transcript: ABC News (2009-01-20), The inaugural oath: Chief Justice slip up, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2009/01/the-inuagural-o/
- Transcript: United Press International (2009-01-20), The oath of office taken by Pres. Obama, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/20/The-oath-of-office-taken-by-Pres-Obama/UPI-40181232472806/
I listened to the video first, and then cross-referenced that by looking for transcripts from news organizations (interestingly, though, one transcript stated that Obama said "I will execute," but I heard "I'll execute" on the C-SPAN recording). From what I've found on the C-SPAN video, Obama did not talk over Roberts. So, to state in a general sense that Obama "spoke over him" (referring to Roberts) is not accurate, as this implied that Obama and Roberts were speaking at the same time. As revised, this seemed to be the opinion of the writer, which could looked upon as one point of view.
This section will be revised to reflect a summary of what occurred during this event because, as edited, readers could be mislead to believe that people were speaking over one another. Besides, I thought that this issue was resolved long ago when the editors came to a consensus for putting together this section, since the focus was supposed to be the oath flubbing by Roberts. →Lwalt ♦ talk 22:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Move request
Per Obama's re-election, move page and associated talk page to First inauguration of Barack Obama. Tktru (talk) 09:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Why was the 'move' mechanizism removed from this article? GoodDay (talk) 03:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
- Support, although, it's not until January 20, 2013. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
- Strongly support, as the second-inauguration article will be actively edited well before January 20; the present title should become a disambig page between the two inauguration articles (like Inauguration of George W. Bush). I'm not 100% sure why the "move" mechanism is missing, but I suspect it's due to the general article probation on all Obama-related articles (see top of this talk page). --RBBrittain (talk) 23:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
- I have added the move request to WP:RM/TR so admins can look into it. If that doesn't work, I'll try it another way. --RBBrittain (talk) 00:07, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Although this move has already been completed, it did not follow the guideline at WP:FIXDABLINKS --
- A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.
- Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.
- It would be appreciated if users interested in this topic would go back and fix all the pages that contain links to "Inauguration of Barack Obama" so that they take the reader to the correct article. Thank you. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
- Done. TJRC (talk) 01:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Weather conditions
I could not find in the article what was the weather like that day. In my opinion, such comprehensive article should contain this sort of information, for one thing, because of the character of the event (i.e. open-air event, assembly of a large number of people). Thank you for adding this information. 94.113.5.35 (talk) 12:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
"No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration."
- Removed by myself, summary
So what? No one would be interested in this if not for the fringe theories about Obama, and, since we ignore fringe theories here, the sentence doesn't serve any valid encyclopedic purpose
- Reverted by TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs), summary
rv content removal. As a tertiary resource, we summarize 2ndary sources
Okay, cool, let's do that consensus thingy. I think it's overly broad to simply say "we summarize secondary sources". We also decide which pieces of information presented in secondary sources. I'm not saying we should be white-washing history or anything. But clearly we don't report every single thing every secondary source says; instead, we consider various criteria as to the encyclopedic relevance of a point. I don't find the lack of a Bible encyclopedically relevant. We wouldn't be discussing it if it were George Bush or Bill Clinton, and while certainly fringe theories can be discussed on Wikipedia—in this case at Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories—material shouldn't be included in related articles if it only means anything to purveyors of fringe theories. The encyclopedic weight of the sentence "No Bible was present during the retake of the inauguration" is far lower than the ideological weight, which, in my opinion, makes it unsuitable for inclusion in an article. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 11:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- Have you noted that Oath of office of the President of the United States has a special section devoted to "Oath of office of the President of the United States#Use of Bibles". Use of Bibles is considered encyclopedic for this topic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
"forebears"?
The Wikisource text of Mr Obama's First Inaugural Address spells the word as "forbearers." This follows the transcription released to the press before the address, and the transcription originally published by The New York Times (but not The Washington Post) but later corrected to "forebears." It has never been clear who was responsible for the variant spelling; Mr Obama has been reported to have written the speech on his Blackberry without spell correction. The etymology of the word "forebears" has the prefix "fore" to indicate "coming before" and the usual expression of Lincoln and other eloquent rhetoric is "forefathers" but Mr Obama apparently wished to avoid sexism and so chose another word. However, the usual meaning of "forbear" is to abstain not precede. According to Google corpus, "forbearer" has been used in place of "forebear" a few times, but greatly outnumbered in that meaning by "forebear." Since when you listen to the audio of the speech, Mr Obama does not enunciate the last syllable of "forbearers," should the historical text use the spelling "forebears" or "forbearers"? http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_First_Inaugural_Address — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.163.144 (talk) 20:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- I would suggest asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Barack Obama or Talk:Barack Obama.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:28, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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Reactions to prayer
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Conservatives, including Rush Limbaugh decried Lowery's benediction, which quoted from "Lift Every Voice and Sing" (the "Black National Anthem"), as racist,[1][2] while Democrats disagreed.[3] Another of Lowery's rhymes, "When black will not be asked to get in back",[4] borrowing (along with other lines in his conclusion) from the Big Bill Broonzy song "Black, Brown and White",[5] particularly offended the likes of Limbaugh who felt that Obama's ascension on that day symbolized the fact that America had come to that point already.[2]
References
- ^ Seelye, Katharine (January 20, 2009). "Live Blog: The Inauguration of Barack Obama". The New York Times. Retrieved April 15, 2009.
- ^ a b Schilling, Chelsea (January 20, 2009). "Inaugural prayer slam prompts Obama smile: Rush Limbaugh: Lowery 'just insulted this country'". WorldNetDaily. Retrieved March 7, 2009.
- ^ "Viewers Offer Mixed Reactions to Reverend Lowery's Inaugural Benediction". HCD Research. January 26, 2009. Retrieved March 7, 2009.
- ^ "When black will not be asked to get back". The Economist. January 21, 2009. Retrieved June 18, 2009.
- ^ Remnick, David (February 15, 2010). "The Promise". newyorker.com. Retrieved May 29, 2017.
There are several issues with the sourcing:
- WorldNetDaily is not a reliable source. Although it may accurately portray Limbaugh's opinion, there is not indication that this is a significant viewpoint per WP:WEIGHT.
- HCD Research is published by Press Release Point, a PR site that allows clients to submit press releases with no vetting or oversight. At best it is a primary source for the raw survey data, and "Democrats disagreed" is a gross oversimplification of that data.
- The Economist mentions a positive reaction to the benediction by an unnamed "liberal blogger/pastor" but does not say anything about racism.
- The New Yorker discusses the benediction but, again, does not mention racism.
Although there are several sources that may be used to discuss general reactions to the benediction, there is not strong RS support for the racism narrative; in fact these sources do not mention anyone other than Limbaugh getting offended. This is a fringe viewpoint that should not be covered here. –dlthewave ☎ 23:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am not an expert on politics. Experts on this issue would probably respond to an WP:RFC.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- You don't need to be an expert on politics to check whether or not the sources support the claims that are being made. An RfC seems unnecessary at this time. –dlthewave ☎ 05:32, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Note about protesters
I think that there should be a small note about the few protesters at the inauguration: https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/politics/21web-protests.html Victor Grigas (talk) 23:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)