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== Controversy: American Academy of Environmental Medicine == |
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Hey everyone! In the controversies section there is a substantial chunk about the position of the [[American Academy of Environmental Medicine]]. I'm under the impression that AAEM is generally considered a fringe group, opposing [[water fluoridation]], [[thimerosol]], et al. It looks like this has previously been discussed on this talk page [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Genetically_modified_food/Archive_3#.22American_Academy_of_Environmental_Medicine.22|here]] and the material was removed [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Genetically_modified_food/Archive_4#addition_to_Controversies_today|here]] but may have since snuck back in. I'd advocate the material be removed or rephrased since I think we give the criticism undue weight the way it is currently worded. Happy to discuss.[[User:Ajpolino|Ajpolino]] ([[User talk:Ajpolino|talk]]) 01:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC) |
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: The fact that Quackwatch calls into question the validity or reliability of the AAEM does not alter the fact that they are an established entity in the GM food-controversy universe. Because they are a 50-year-old organization calling for a moratorium on GM food, mention of their role in GM food should be included on this page. Therefore, in the opinion of this editor, it should not be removed. Now, if you have specific suggestions on how to rephrase the information, as you advocated, I am all for considering and discussing them. In short, improve it, don't remove it. That's my vote.[[User:Kerdooskis|Kerdooskis]] ([[User talk:Kerdooskis|talk]]) 20:54, 6 November 2015 (UTC) |
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::The trouble is that this section is a summary of the main article and therefore going into too much detail will tend to lend [[WP:Undue|undue weight]] to one somewhat questionable organisation. [[User:Aircorn|AIR<font color="green">'''''corn'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Aircorn|(talk)]] 19:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Aircorn, where are you getting this idea? Weight is not determined by related articles, or have I missed something? '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">[[User:Petrarchan47|<font color="#A0A0A0">petrarchan47</font>]][[User talk:Petrarchan47|<font color="deeppink">คุ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Petrarchan47|<font color="orangered">ก</font>]]</span>''' 00:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC) |
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== Removal of mention of USRTK information == |
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I wonder if [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_modified_food&curid=216102&diff=689965538&oldid=689945027 this removal] is justified. I think the information is relevant and was properly sourced. I think it provided more context to the sociological dimensions of the controversy surrounding the article's subject matter. [[User:SageRad|SageRad]] ([[User talk:SageRad|talk]]) 14:16, 10 November 2015 (UTC) |
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:There is no evidence of improper disclosure in the source or in others, not to mention that it is undue weight as part of talking points by an advocacy group. This specific content isn't even in [[Kevin Folta]], and I suspect it never will be in this fashion as being an invited speaker somewhere and your university receiving a grant don't quite fit into the narrative being portrayed here . [[User:Kingofaces43|Kingofaces43]] ([[User talk:Kingofaces43|talk]]) 14:25, 10 November 2015 (UTC) |
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:: I understand your points. I still think that the findings and the story that ''is'' told by the USRTK FOIA requests may be relevant to this article as context. I wonder what others think, and how we might contextualize it well in this article. [[User:SageRad|SageRad]] ([[User talk:SageRad|talk]]) 14:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC) |
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:: Also note that the content you removed didn't say "improper disclosure". It said that "researchers have accepted funding and travel reimbursements without disclosure" which is true. That may ''imply'' impropriety, and in fact i'd agree that the story told is one of impropriety in regard to public trust. It may not be technically in violation of formal rules, but the impropriety of appearing to be independent while working more closely than is publicly known with the industry, that is the import of the story. [[User:SageRad|SageRad]] ([[User talk:SageRad|talk]]) 15:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC) |
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:::If it's not improper disclosure, then it's undue weight here regardless of advocacy stances trying to insert their own narrative trying to insinuate impropriety. [[WP:COATRACK]] applies. [[User:Kingofaces43|Kingofaces43]] ([[User talk:Kingofaces43|talk]]) 15:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC) |
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::::If it's a reasonably significant part of the whole issue of controversy surrounding genetically modified foods, which i think it is, then it's neither coatracking nor undue. [[User:SageRad|SageRad]] ([[User talk:SageRad|talk]]) 15:21, 10 November 2015 (UTC) |
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== GMO salmon == |
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Did anyone else see the news today about the US okaying gmo salmon for consumption? Although the FDA says it is safe to eat, it sees no reason to label it any differently from wild or non-gmo salmon. This looks to be the beginning of a big debate, and I'm wondering if the news warrants mentioning in this article. Thoughts?[[User:Kerdooskis|Kerdooskis]] ([[User talk:Kerdooskis|talk]]) 22:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC) |
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*[http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrentristano/2015/11/20/gmo-salmon-heres-how-americans-feel-about-fish/ Forbes] ''GMO Salmon: Here's How Americans Feel About Fish'' '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">[[User:Petrarchan47|<font color="#A0A0A0">petrarchan47</font>]][[User talk:Petrarchan47|<font color="deeppink">คุ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Petrarchan47|<font color="orangered">ก</font>]]</span>''' 01:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC) |
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== FDA's new definition of GMO == |
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From the [http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/business/fda-takes-issue-with-the-term-non-gmo.html?partner=IFTTT&_r=0 NYT]: |
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== extraneous "12" under "European Regulation" == |
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:"But if anything, the F.D.A. further complicated the issue by distinguishing the term “genetic engineering” from “genetic modification.” |
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There is an extraneous "12" under "European Regulation" |
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:"F.D.A. considers the term ‘genetic modification’ to be a much broader term that encompasses other means of altering the genome of an organism including selective breeding, and lab-based in vitro methods,” the agency said in its announcement. |
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12 The EU law regulates |
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:"...given the agency’s definition of genetic modification, non-G.M.O labeling on thousands of products now in stores would technically be false because they contain plants genetically modified over centuries through hybridization and other conventional breeding techniques. For instance, under the F.D.A.’s definition, a corn chip made from conventional corn is genetically modified, but not genetically engineered — an argument that the biotech industry has been making for years. |
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Perhaps this was meant to be a reference? [[User:Michaelhurwicz|Michael Hurwicz]] ([[User talk:Michaelhurwicz|talk]]) 14:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:“They’re conflating what is a very new and novel technology with traditional types of breeding, which is simply crossing different varieties of, say, corn,” said Andrew Kimbrell, founder and executive director of the Center for Food Safety, which is lobbying for mandatory labeling. “It’s kind of like saying an abacus is very much like a computer.” '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px #B8B8B8;">[[User:Petrarchan47|<font color="#A0A0A0">petrarchan47</font>]][[User talk:Petrarchan47|<font color="deeppink">คุ</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Petrarchan47|<font color="orangered">ก</font>]]</span>''' 18:53, 21 November 2015 (UTC) |
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extraneous "12" under "European Regulation"
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12 The EU law regulates
Perhaps this was meant to be a reference? Michael Hurwicz (talk) 14:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)