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Movses of Kalankatuyk wrote the history of Caucasian Albania, so naturally the page falls into History of Azerbaijan category as well. Atabek 22:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Grandmaster, please elaborate by quote of him being Albanian. General consensus is he is Armenian, and unless your source satisfactorily exceptional on the topic, I disagree with keeping reference on him being "Albanian." I mean, he did after all write in the Armenian language, not in "Aluani" - pretty clear indication. Hetoum I11:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So what if he wrote in Armenian? Vladimir Nabokov wrote in English, was he ethnically English? This is from K.Trever, one of the top experts on Albania:
На армянском языке написан первый и единственный труд, посвященный истории Албании, - "История Албании" Моисея Каланкатуйского (Мосес Каланкатваци). Труд этот дошел до нас в нескольких списках и состоит из трех частей; он упоминается армянскими писателями XII--XIII вв. Автор, уроженец сел. Каланкатуйк в области Утик, был по происхождению либо утийцем (албаном), писавшим на армянском языке, либо армянином, что весьма возможно, так как в этот период Арцах и большая часть Утика были уже арменизованы.
К.В. Тревер. ОЧЕРКИ ПО ИСТОРИИ И КУЛЬТУРЕ КАВКАЗСКОЙ АЛБАНИИ IV В. ДО Н. Э. - VII В. Н. Э. (источники и литература) -- изданиe Академии наук СССР, М.-Л., 1959
She says that, Movses, native of the village of Kalankatuyk in Utik, was either uti (Albanian), who wrote in Armenian, or Armenian. Grandmaster11:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No Grandmaster, this is what she says.
Movses, native of the village of Kalankatuyk in Utik, was either Uti (Albanian) who wrote in Armenian, or Armenian, which is very likely, because during at that time Artsakh and greater part of Utik were Armenianised.
Many users here don't speak Russian, and by translating the only part where it suits your needs, is pov pushing. VartanM06:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, it’s not. WP:AGF. I had no time for translating the whole text, I only translated the relevant part. The rest has nothing to do with Movses. Most Armenian users speak Russian, so if I wanted to conceal any info I would not be providing the whole quote in the first place. Grandmaster07:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So by your logic him being very likely Armenian and not just maybe Armenian is not relevant. I know at least three active Armenian users who don't speak Russian. As for WP:AGF I did nothing wrong, only pointed out your mistake [1]. To avoid such unpleasant conversation in future, please translate the whole quotation. VartanM07:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The source says that he was either of the two, and actually gives preference to his Albanian origin, as I have another quote where the same scholar calls him Albanian. I chose this one to show that there are 2 versions of his origin. I was short of time while posting here, and sometimes I don't even translate the Russian quotes, as Armenian users are mostly fluent in Russian. In the future I will provide full Russian translation for any quotes, since it is a problem for you. Grandmaster07:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How is a source where it says "He was either Uti (Albanian) who wrote in Armenian, or Armenian, which is very likely" gives preference to his Albanian origin? Is this the source your talking about? [2]
The same scholar shows doubt about his Albanian origin and then says that his Armenian. I have no problem with your Russian sources, but some users not necessarily Armenian would probably have difficulty understanding it. VartanM08:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]