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== Punctuation == |
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Proper placement of periods and commas, are ALWAYS WITHIN the quotation marks [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:eb91:4290:6d18:5ca4:50d8:9899|2600:1700:eb91:4290:6d18:5ca4:50d8:9899]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:eb91:4290:6d18:5ca4:50d8:9899|talk]]) 19:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
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This article certainly needs work (perhaps even [[WP:TNT]]), but I think you can make a non-frivolous argument that the sources provided in this article substantiate notability. At the very least, this should be discussed at [[WP:AFD]]. -- [[User:Notecardforfree|Notecardforfree]] ([[User talk:Notecardforfree|talk]]) 09:05, 10 February 2017 (UTC) |
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*See also the entry for this individual at [[List of Internet phenomena#Images]]. -- [[User:Notecardforfree|Notecardforfree]] ([[User talk:Notecardforfree|talk]]) 09:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC) |
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== Is the expensive bill story relevant? == |
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::{{ping|Notecardforfree}}, I agree. <sup><font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">[[User:Atsme|Atsme]]</font>[[User talk:Atsme |📞]][[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]]</sup> 17:40, 10 February 2017 (UTC) |
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I note that under controversies, there's a mention of an expensive bill at one of his restaurants. Granted, the mention is focused on the media reaction to it, which is fair, but the story itself I believe is irrelevant to a wiki article about the man. I mean, the expensive bill included a number of bottles of the most expensive wine in the world (Petrus 2003), can hardly complain that it's expensive. it appears to be an expected attack from gutter clickbait journalists (e.g. Hull Live is a reference) and something I wouldn't expect to be noted in Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/37.228.203.133|37.228.203.133]] ([[User talk:37.228.203.133|talk]]) 16:22, 10 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== Not a vegan == |
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:Yes because he it's proven that he's a rotten chef and his food is not worth a fraction of what he charges. [[Special:Contributions/146.199.128.183|146.199.128.183]] ([[User talk:146.199.128.183|talk]]) 19:42, 22 December 2022 (UTC) |
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::it doesn't prove anything, but your comment displays your bias. Hardly becoming for a wiki entry imo [[User:GwanOuvit|GwanOuvit]] ([[User talk:GwanOuvit|talk]]) 19:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC) |
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== Disrespect at World Cup. == |
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http://9gag.com/gag/a8ydoG1/salt-bae-says-he-s-vegetarian-but-why [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 22:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC) |
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He disrespected and almost harrased the Argentinien Team, after they won the world Cup Finals. [[Special:Contributions/2001:4BC9:A42:E57:1:2:F26D:9E55|2001:4BC9:A42:E57:1:2:F26D:9E55]] ([[User talk:2001:4BC9:A42:E57:1:2:F26D:9E55|talk]]) 16:23, 22 December 2022 (UTC) |
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== Kurdish == |
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== I want to learn == |
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{{ping|DoctorPayn|AyBars}} Why did you remove this sourced content about him being Kurdish? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 15:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC)<br> |
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{{ping|Tcanb}} Perhaps discuss here. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 13:51, 26 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:Because he is not. That article you cited is fake. Have you not seen all the photos? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tcanb|Tcanb]] ([[User talk:Tcanb#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tcanb|contribs]]) </small> |
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::{{reply to|Tcanb}} How are the articles fake? I didn't cite them this is a collaborative encyclopedia. What photos are you talking about? The ones from the Ensonhaber article or the Rudaw one? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 14:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Thats not good enough. One video shows a bunch of random kurds claiming he is one, next video he is with Turks on facetime. What is the purpose of that article, you cited the same thing twice. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tcanb|Tcanb]] ([[User talk:Tcanb#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tcanb|contribs]]) </small> |
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::::{{reply to|Tcanb}} Please don't revert or make another edit until we have gained consensus. How are they not good enough? And even if they are not good enough that is a different thing to being fake. As per [[WP:TOOMANYREFS]] {{tq|A good rule of thumb is that, except for certain controversial topics, one footnote after a sentence is almost always sufficient. Two or three may be a good way of preventing [[wikipedia:linkrot|linkrot]] for online sources or providing a range of sources that support the fact, but more than three should usually be avoid;}}, if you are asking why their is two citations to support the same claim. What do you mean by "you cited", when did I cite anything? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 19:30, 26 October 2017 |
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{{od}} You have put two news articles. One which is fake, the other which is highlighting the fake one. Its the same thing. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tcanb|Tcanb]] ([[User talk:Tcanb#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tcanb|contribs]]) </small> |
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:{{Reply to|Tcanb}} You have violated [[WP:3RR]]. Please revert your edit back to the consensus version. What do you mean I have put two news articles? You removed them. How is one fake? Where does the other highlight the fake one? I have said that multiple citations can be used to support the same claim. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 21:12, 26 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{Reply to|Tcanb}} Have you read the above? If so then please reply and/or restore the consensus version. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 13:13, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{Reply to|TU-nor}} Would you care to weigh in on this "discussion", or were you just reverting the consensus version? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 15:40, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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::I just happened to see that {{u|Tcanb}} continued their edit war, so I reverted. I should of course have looked at the talk page. My contribution to the "discussion" (with your aptly placed quote marks) would be: 1) Kurdish origin is sourced. 2) An Instagram picture is not a reliable source for ethnicity. 3) The Turkish flag is the flag of Turkey, not only of Turkish people. --[[User:TU-nor|T*U]] ([[User talk:TU-nor|talk]]) 16:27, 30 October 2017 (UTC) |
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=== help === |
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please can someone remove kurdish origin he is actually turkish and he has been ever since he posted a picture with turkish flag and he said he is proud to be turkish. |
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you are my dream hero i want to learn from you [[Special:Contributions/103.151.75.239|103.151.75.239]] ([[User talk:103.151.75.239|talk]]) 20:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC) |
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source <ref>http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/blogs/salt-bae-opens-nusr-et-restaurant-in-miami-florida</ref> <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.74.206.161|79.74.206.161]] ([[User talk:79.74.206.161#top|talk]]) </small> |
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:Being proud to be Turkish doesn't mean he is not of Kurdish origin. There's a significant Kurdish population in Turkey, which makes those Kurds also Turks. Do you have a source explicitly stating he isn't Kurdish? [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 00:06, 17 February 2018 (UTC) |
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{{reflist talk}} |
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== You have violated 7. BLP of the subject == |
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False reports being made in order to get innocent users banned. [[User:Tcanb|Tcanb]] ([[User talk:Tcanb|talk]]) 15:56, 27 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{reply to|Tcanb}} What are you on about? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 16:43, 27 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:{{Reply to|Tcanb}} Could you please clarify what you are on about? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 13:13, 29 October 2017 (UTC) |
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i have met him before and he said he is not kurdish. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Channel4469|Channel4469]] ([[User talk:Channel4469#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Channel4469|contribs]]) 23:36, 16 February 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:{{reply to|Channel4469}} Are you {{u|Tcanb}} or did you mean to post this in the above section? Either way [[WP:OR]] is not allowed, but welcome to Wikipedia. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 23:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2017 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Salt Bae|answered=yes}} |
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Salt Bae name is actually a very smart way of introducing himself to the international audience as the word "BEY" in Turkish means Mr. so it's like calling him MR SALT but instead, he went to using the trendy way! [[User:Syeterian|Syeterian]] ([[User talk:Syeterian|talk]]) 21:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 21:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC) |
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::Can we please use his real name, Nusret Gökçe, for the article title?! Seriously. [[User:Heroeswithmetaphors|<span style="font-family:Arial; color:#33ccff; text-shadow:#ccffff 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">(Heroeswithmetaphors)</span>]] [[User talk:Heroeswithmetaphors|<span style="font-family:Arial; color:#ff66ff; font-size:8px">talk</span>]] 20:17, 5 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== Number of children == |
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Are there any other sources to the number of children Gökçe has fathered (or, possibly, adopted)? The referenced [https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/salt-bae-reveals-the-insane-number-of-kids-he-has/ article], which claims he is the father of nine, refers to an [https://www.instagram.com/p/BKTLcHxgsLA/ Instagram post], in which Gökçe poses with nine kids, but nowhere does he claim they are his, only that family is important. A quick Google search has not turned up any other sources. [[User:Ehn|ehn]] ([[User talk:Ehn|talk]]) 06:36, 10 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:I have removed the section. If a Google search does not find anything then their might not be anything online in English. Foreign language sources might have something. --[[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 12:26, 11 February 2018 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2018 == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Salt Bae|answered=yes}} |
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Please at least put his image.... [[User:Kpc10|Kpc10]] ([[User talk:Kpc10|talk]]) 05:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC) |
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*:Which image? –[[User:Ammarpad|Ammarpad]] ([[User talk:Ammarpad|talk]]) 11:16, 25 March 2018 (UTC) |
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== Add a "Referenced in Popular Media" section? == |
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Salt Bae has been referenced in at least two media sources to my personal knowledge.<br> |
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1. As an unlockable exotic emote in the Destiny 2 video game.<br> |
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2. In the 25th episode of the anime Black Clover, released March 27, 2018, a castle chef uses Salt Bae's signature seasoning pose to sprinkle salt on a defeated villain.<br> |
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If this has gone viral worldwide like this, there are probably other references too.<br> |
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[[User:Steelbuck|Steelbuck]] ([[User talk:Steelbuck|talk]]) 21:14, 27 March 2018 (UTC) |
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== help about a source == |
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{{cot|sockpuppet}} |
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{{help me-helped}} |
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There is a source saying that nusret (saltbae) originated from the Turkish [[zazas|zaza]] people. He is not Kurdish please remove Kurdish origin from the introduction. |
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<ref>https://www.uludagsozluk.com/k/nusret-in-k%C3%BCrt-olmas%C4%B1/</ref> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GlobalPower|GlobalPower]] ([[User talk:GlobalPower#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GlobalPower|contribs]]) </small> |
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{{Reply to|GlobalPower}} Please translate the source. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 22:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)<br> |
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Is |
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http://www.ensonhaber.com/nusret-gokce-basari-hikayesini-anlatti-2013-08-10.html |
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One of the five children of a mining worker, Nusret Gökçe .. Faik Şahhenk Secondary School due to financial impossibilities, he took to the slaughter of knife eline meat. He took his last salary and went to Argentina, and when he changed he rewrote his butchery book. It's on the way to London now, after the branches it opened afterwards. |
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Nusret Gökçe, Nusret, the most frequented place of the White Turkish colony, especially the residents of Etiler, told the leader Sarıahmetoğlu about the success story from the evening. |
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Sais it : |
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:{{reply to|GlobalPower}} Where does it say he is not Kurdish? [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 22:35, 3 April 2018 (UTC) |
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{{Reflist talk}} |
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::It doesn't. On the other hand, [http://www.rudaw.net/turkish/lifestyle/11062017 this] is quite explicit right in the headline: "''Meşhur Nusret Kürt çıktı!''" - "The famous Nusret is Kurdish!" It goes on to quote relatives on how they're all Kurdish. [[User:Huon|Huon]] ([[User talk:Huon|talk]]) 23:45, 3 April 2018 (UTC) |
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{{cob}} |
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==Move Kurdish origin in the early life section== |
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== Alleged political displays== |
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I can't see any indication in the sources that the subject is making deliberate political displays in the Castro or Maduro incidents.[[User:Blitzcream|Blitzcream]] ([[User talk:Blitzcream|talk]]) 12:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{re|User:Blitzcream}} Placing this back. Please receive consensus before removing this again. The wording does not assume "political displays", it only states that his actions surrounding political leaders has received criticism. Does the wording say that he is supporting or denouncing a leader? No. What it states is the actions he made and the response those actions.----[[User:ZiaLater|<i style="text-shadow:#C0C0C0 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em; color: ForestGreen">ZiaLater</i>]] ([[User talk:ZiaLater|<span style="color: ForestGreen">talk</span>]]) 03:27, 28 September 2018 (UTC) |
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::: THere is no direct critiscism of Gökçe in the sources you cite. There is no indication he makes meaningful political statements in any form. He's a restauranteur serving an (admittedly high profile) customer dinner.[[User:Blitzcream|Blitzcream]] ([[User talk:Blitzcream|talk]]) 21:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC) |
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::::{{re|User:Blitzcream}}That is why I changed the wording. The actions he made were not a "political statement", but he was criticized in multiple outlets which is notable. Whether or not it is a political statement does not matter. The information is properly sourced and should be included. Thank you for discussing this.----[[User:ZiaLater|<i style="text-shadow:#C0C0C0 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em; color: ForestGreen">ZiaLater</i>]] ([[User talk:ZiaLater|<span style="color: ForestGreen">talk</span>]]) 22:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC) |
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Maduro is criticised. I don't see direcr criticism of Gökçe in the sources.[[User:Blitzcream|Blitzcream]] ([[User talk:Blitzcream|talk]]) 03:25, 2 October 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{re|User:Blitzcream}} Read this quote from the ''[https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-maduro/venezuelans-outraged-by-maduros-steak-feast-at-salt-bae-restaurant-idUSKCN1LY02M Reuters'' article]: |
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::"On social media, Venezuelans shared mocked-up images showing Gokce doing his trade-mark salt sprinkle pose above a skeletal child" |
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:Not sure if you missed this, but this is a fairly strong denouncement against Gökçe's actions. The CNN article also mentions the movement by Rubio to contact Gökçe or his restaurant. Additional sources will be provided and this will finally be placed back in the article. Further whitewashing will not be tolerated and may result in [[WP:ANI]] actions.----[[User:ZiaLater|<i style="text-shadow:#C0C0C0 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em; color: ForestGreen">ZiaLater</i>]] ([[User talk:ZiaLater|<span style="color: ForestGreen">talk</span>]]) 20:52, 2 October 2018 (UTC) |
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===Wording=== |
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{{ping|User:Blitzcream}} I want to get the wording correct for you so we can stop the edit warring. It is a fact that both Maduro ''and'' Gökçe were criticized for their actions. How would we word this? Please provide some sort of suggestion. |
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I will tell you why I included that wording that was presented: |
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"In September 2018, both Gökçe and the president of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro were criticized for their actions displayed at his Istanbul restaurant while Venezuelans suffered from shortages and a socioeconomic crisis" |
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First we will look at the "In September 2018, both Gökçe and the president of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro were criticized for their actions" part. Both Gökçe and Maduro were criticized. That is a fact according to reliable, notable sources. Second, is this portion that states "while Venezuelans suffered from shortages and a socioeconomic crisis". This was added to inform the reader why they were both crticized for their actions. |
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Again, please reply with some sort of suggestion because I am not seeing an issue with the inclusion of this content.----[[User:ZiaLater|<i style="text-shadow:#C0C0C0 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em; color: ForestGreen">ZiaLater</i>]] ([[User talk:ZiaLater|<span style="color: ForestGreen">talk</span>]]) 13:40, 3 October 2018 (UTC) |
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Punctuation
Proper placement of periods and commas, are ALWAYS WITHIN the quotation marks 2600:1700:eb91:4290:6d18:5ca4:50d8:9899 (talk) 19:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Is the expensive bill story relevant?
I note that under controversies, there's a mention of an expensive bill at one of his restaurants. Granted, the mention is focused on the media reaction to it, which is fair, but the story itself I believe is irrelevant to a wiki article about the man. I mean, the expensive bill included a number of bottles of the most expensive wine in the world (Petrus 2003), can hardly complain that it's expensive. it appears to be an expected attack from gutter clickbait journalists (e.g. Hull Live is a reference) and something I wouldn't expect to be noted in Wikipedia. 37.228.203.133 (talk) 16:22, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes because he it's proven that he's a rotten chef and his food is not worth a fraction of what he charges. 146.199.128.183 (talk) 19:42, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- it doesn't prove anything, but your comment displays your bias. Hardly becoming for a wiki entry imo GwanOuvit (talk) 19:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Disrespect at World Cup.
He disrespected and almost harrased the Argentinien Team, after they won the world Cup Finals. 2001:4BC9:A42:E57:1:2:F26D:9E55 (talk) 16:23, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
I want to learn
you are my dream hero i want to learn from you 103.151.75.239 (talk) 20:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)