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::::Until anyone can produce a source for any of those claims, i think we should remove the category. Correction, i am going to remove that category. [[User:Bonewah|Bonewah]] ([[User talk:Bonewah|talk]]) 20:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC) |
::::Until anyone can produce a source for any of those claims, i think we should remove the category. Correction, i am going to remove that category. [[User:Bonewah|Bonewah]] ([[User talk:Bonewah|talk]]) 20:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:::::Seems that this article isnt in that category. Please be sure to site sources before adding it. [[User:Bonewah|Bonewah]] ([[User talk:Bonewah|talk]]) 20:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC) |
:::::Seems that this article isnt in that category. Please be sure to site sources before adding it. [[User:Bonewah|Bonewah]] ([[User talk:Bonewah|talk]]) 20:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC) |
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::::::This is a confusing thread since, as above, she is ''not in that category'', now was she prior to the recent edits by the thread starter. Anyway, agree with keeping this out. The baby example above is wholly inapt. Conversion is by its nature an act of the sentient.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 21:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Could be better phrased:
"One month after McCain announced Palin as his running mate, she was viewed both more favorably and unfavorably among voters than her opponent, Delaware Senator Joe Biden."
By which I mean I have no idea what this means.
- I think it means that Joe Biden had more people respond "I don't know" to favorability polls than Sarah Palin. Thus, more people had an opinion that was either favorable or unfavorable towards Sarah Palin than they did towards Biden. However, the above quote is a bit unclear.184.186.1.47 (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
"Possible 2014 Senate campaign"
You know, this reminds me a little too much of Joe Miller's non-challenge of Don Young two years ago, or even better still, Levi's non-campaign for mayor. Speculation as reported by reliable sources is still speculation. Here's a scenario for you. Imagine if I were to get a newspaper photographer to take a photo of me wearing colorful clothes, a fez and dark glasses, with a manzello and other musical instruments strapped and hanging from my neck. When the photographer asks me for my name so that they may publish it along with the photo, I reply that my name is Rahsaan Roland Kirk. With the state of the newspaper business being what it is nowadays, that photographer's editor is too busy working as circulation manager to give much thought to his other job, letting it slip through. Now, because I can point to a reliable source stating that I'm Rahsaan Roland Kirk, does that make it so? This is the sort of regard you're showing for WP:V here. The filing deadline to appear on the ballot is less than two weeks away, yet the ONLY evidence whatsoever for asserting a "possible campaign" is the fact that some idle trash talk to Sean Hannity nearly a year ago was deemed news by CNN and The Washington Post. Cherry picking sources has long been a problem (e.g. whitewashing her association with the Alaskan Independence Party or with Wally Hickel), but this is far too blatant. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 14:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Agree in principle. One mention 10 months ago is not really enough to warrant the text that is devoted to this. Somewhat of the WP:Crystalball variety... Ckruschke (talk) 19:02, 20 May 2014 (UTC)Ckruschke
- She may have current plans in a Conservative direction but at a different level. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Sarah Palin Channel
I'm all for, but then not because you have to pay for in order to use. Don't get me wrong I do understand, but then don't. In which I contracted them regarding all of this. Especially, I marked high priority. I mean with this being my copied and pasted intro to everything I do on online.
At the same time a little bit more as well. Regarding my biography.
Still I'm not one, but have no to little income. Is supplemented by Social Security Disability. In which I'm glad for, but still wish I had other means as well, but in I still don't. At the same time still don't drive or intend to anytime in the future.--Jessica A Bruno (talk) 03:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for noticing, Jessica. I notice you can glean a lot of information from the top of the website SarahPalinChannel but to have full details, you need to subscribe. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Here are some reports from what others are saying:
Headline-1: Sarah Palin’s New Venture: TV Subscriber Based Network
QUOTE: "...Palin is now the leader of The Sarah Palin Channel, at a fee of $9.95 per month or $99.95 for a one-year subscription, promising coverage and opinion on “important issues facing the nation,” as well as behind-the-scenes looks into her personal life as “mother, grandmother, wife and neighbor.” Ms. Palin will curate and moderate the content as executive editor. ..." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
Headline-2: Sarah Palin Launches Online Video Channel
QUOTE: "The former Alaska governor will oversee all content posted to the subscription-based Sarah Palin Channel, which will be available through the TAPP platform." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for additional future editing.
Headline-3: Governor Sarah Palin Launches Online Video Channel On The TAPP Platform
QUOTE: "Los Angeles, July 27, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- TAPP co-founders Jeff Gaspin, former chairman of NBC Universal Television, and Jon Klein, former president of CNN/U.S., announce the official launch of the Sarah Palin Channel, a subscription-based online network offering supporters of the candidate for Vice President of the United States and former Alaska Governor unprecedented access to and interaction with Governor Palin." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for additional future editing.
Headline-4: Sarah Palin launches online subscription channel for a 'direct connection' with supporters
QUOTE: " Sarah Palin is starting her own subscription-based online network. The Sarah Palin Channel, which went live on Sunday, bills itself as a "direct connection" for the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate with her supporters, bypassing media filters. Palin says she oversees all content posted to the channel. This will include her own political commentary. Other features for subscribers include the ability to submit questions to Palin and participate with her in online video chats, she says in an online announcement. Membership is set at $9.95 per month or $99.95 for a year. Palin remains active elsewhere as a Fox News Channel contributor and reality-TV personality. The Sarah Palin Channel is part of the TAPP video platform, which launched earlier this year." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 13:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC) -- PS: US News and World Report is highly respected.
Bar Brawl
Are the recent reports of a Palin family bar/street/snowmobile brawl significant?--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht Talk/Stalk 15:07, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- As I read it, nobody is pressing charges, so maybe not. Also, reports are sketchy and may not be accurate, so at the least we should proceed with caution. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:17, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- The article is about Sarah, not another member of her family. HiLo48 (talk) 16:26, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- Reportedly, Sarah was there. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:54, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- So what? HiLo48 (talk) 16:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- You said this article is about Sarah, so I mentioned that she was directly involved in whatever this incident was. I never said she was the one throwing punches, just that her presence there makes this relevant to her (though I agree at this point that this does not belong in the article). – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- Directly involved in a brawl, but not throwing punches. Hmmmmm. OK. It would be interesting to see that written up. HiLo48 (talk) 21:48, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- You said this article is about Sarah, so I mentioned that she was directly involved in whatever this incident was. I never said she was the one throwing punches, just that her presence there makes this relevant to her (though I agree at this point that this does not belong in the article). – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- So what? HiLo48 (talk) 16:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- Reportedly, Sarah was there. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:54, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
- The article is about Sarah, not another member of her family. HiLo48 (talk) 16:26, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
"Interesting to see [it] written up" here or just in general? This is how, in part, the New York Times wrote it up: "The result was a brawl said to involve about 20 people. In the end, the Palin family was ordered by the homeowner to leave, witnesses said. Witnesses said the Palin family members climbed back into their stretch Hummer limousine. Before they left, however, Mrs. Palin unleashed several rounds of profanity and Track Palin made a vulgar gesture toward the crowd, according to one participant at the party who declined to be identified out of fear of reprisals....The Palin family was not available for comment. But Mrs. Palin, in a Facebook post on Sunday, said that she had been traveling 'yesterday' — the day the party was held — so she wanted to post a birthday greeting to her husband one day late. Mrs. Palin made no mention of the party." TheScotch (talk) 07:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- Again, there's an awful lot there about people who aren't Sarah Palin. All that we can get from that about her is that she (allegedly) "unleashed several rounds of profanity". This is a BLP. Got another reliable source to confirm it? HiLo48 (talk) 07:14, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Again, the incident involved the Palin family, including, but not limited to, Sarah. Bristol, for example, threw punches. Yes, "other sources" abound. It's in pretty much all the papers--and not just limited to the United States: the Guardian, for example, discusses the incident as well. TheScotch (talk) 08:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- The incident may have involved the whole Palin clan, but this article doesn't. It's just about Sarah. HiLo48 (talk) 08:45, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Misleading category
Category:Converts to evangelical Christianity from Roman Catholicism: note -- this category is seriously debatable and, I believe, misleading; she was never a practicing Catholic, only baptized; is she an infant convert?? Quis separabit? 22:47, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- The category is not misleading but factual. In keeping with NPOV and need for inclusion of the eclectic situation, Wikipedia should categorize her for what actually happened, which is that she was christened Roman Catholic but later affiliated with evangelical Protestant congregations. Quis separabit?, if she had died the day after her Catholic christening, would she have been buried as anything other than a Catholic? No, she was clearly, concretely, demonstrably a Catholic, explicitly recorded in the church record. She later converted. Removing her from the category obscures a significant fact of her upbringing. Rammer (talk) 17:38, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- How can it be factual if Palin has never considered herself a Catholic or been raised or educated in that faith? Quis separabit? 06:50, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
- Until anyone can produce a source for any of those claims, i think we should remove the category. Correction, i am going to remove that category. Bonewah (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Seems that this article isnt in that category. Please be sure to site sources before adding it. Bonewah (talk) 20:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- This is a confusing thread since, as above, she is not in that category, now was she prior to the recent edits by the thread starter. Anyway, agree with keeping this out. The baby example above is wholly inapt. Conversion is by its nature an act of the sentient.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Seems that this article isnt in that category. Please be sure to site sources before adding it. Bonewah (talk) 20:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- Until anyone can produce a source for any of those claims, i think we should remove the category. Correction, i am going to remove that category. Bonewah (talk) 20:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- How can it be factual if Palin has never considered herself a Catholic or been raised or educated in that faith? Quis separabit? 06:50, 25 December 2014 (UTC)