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Unsourced additions
This was repeatedly added without citations. This is also a BLP and current event thus it should be cited to be in here. "from arabic WP" doest count because WP doesnt cite itself. That said if its sourced on the arabic WP then that source can be added here.Lihaas (talk) 01:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Lead
Also per LEAD, summation/paraphrase of article content suffices. we dont need all the details.Lihaas (talk) 01:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
It's true that Karman's notability arises from her visibility as a leader in Yemen's Arab Spring movement, but it's also noteworthy: "Before the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded, only 12 other women had ever been recipients in over 110 years, and Karman became the first Arab woman and the youngest person ever to become a Nobel Peace Laureate." Placed down in the middle, this part of the lead gets buried. She's always going to be remembered for being the first and one of the youngest. For clarification, other women had been awarded in other categories and so the 12 have to be associated with the Peace Prize. Crtew (talk) 21:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- Its placed in the lead, though i personally thik she was well known before the protests, just not to the hordes who came to her know after the nobel (which is mostly a anglopho ne audience as its on the WP in eglish (and had more than 20k page views yest))
- Tried changing, see how you like it? If ot we ca review?Lihaas (talk) 22:11, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- You're right about her being well known well before October 7. How about just half? See what you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crtew (talk • contribs) 23:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, kept. Cocncluded?Lihaas (talk) 00:53, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes and I liked your change beyond first Arab woman to win Peace Prize to include all Nobel Prizes! Crtew (talk) 01:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, kept. Cocncluded?Lihaas (talk) 00:53, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- You're right about her being well known well before October 7. How about just half? See what you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crtew (talk • contribs) 23:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
News issues
some major issues cropped up recently with the removal of sources to add unverifiable sources and whole scale unexplained removals:
- [1][2][3][4][5] sources are not verifiable
- [6][7] same ref duplicated without ref name tags in 2 sentences
- [8][9][10] unexplained
- [11] Numerous past explanations to SUMMARISE lead not details (see above)
- [12][13] sourced removal
- [14][15] unsourced additionsLihaas (talk) 20:34, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Passage removal
I feel this removes a significant context to the whole issue. Ie- the appeal and reasons thereof ofor the uprisings failure/.success that she is leading (in some way)Lihaas (talk) 21:07, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Recentism
the tag is unwarranted as it is bound to tilt towards 2011 as thats when she gained intl prominence. still though the NGO work is prominently displayed.Lihaas (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Politician?
Is she really a politician? I can find references to back that label up, but by common sense definition, I haven't seen any references yet that show her running for office or directly influencing policy. She is an activist in that she's a member of an opposition party, a leader of protests, and an influential voice. I can't find anymore than that. It seems like Wikipedia is replicating errors from outside by mislabeling her. I would propose changing "politician" to "political and human rights activist". Can anybody find references that show more involvement? Crtew (talk) 01:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Politician precludes being a member of a political party. As opposed to an NGO (which would be okay if she was only at Wome's Jouralists... ad not al Islah)...bearing in mind too that all politicians are not elected ecessarily.Lihaas (talk) 06:38, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Protests
Moved some of the contextual description of what had happened between January and October to the 2011 Yemen Protests page per my fellow Wikipedian's suggestion.Crtew (talk) 18:08, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
File:Tawakkul Karman.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion
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Mekhlaf
I've noticed people adding al-Mekhlaf to the entry. Are they adding that name because she was from Mekhlaf, Yemen? Acmaxey (talk) 15:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
- id imagine, but it needs a sourceLihaas (talk) 14:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Story about how we got the photos
Let's make sure we keep the credit: Matthew Russell Lee of Inner City Press. I was watching YouTube videos about Karman at the United Nations and contacted the reporter. Matthew uploaded the two photos from the protest right away. You can see above how we struggled to get a photo that was public domain. Let's make sure we credit our photographers!Crtew (talk) 00:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- we do that on the photos and in Commons not on articlwe captions as this is not a media outletLihaas (talk) 12:02, 8 November 2011 (UTC)