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::* [[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px|link=]] Hook, expansion, reference and article check out. The main pic on the article is nice, but I think it is "too busy" to show well when put into the required small size for DYK. You can always try though.--[[User:NortyNort|NortyNort]] <small>[[User talk:NortyNort|(Holla)]]</small> 03:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC) |
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Articles created/expanded on April 5
Health in Ghana
- ... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and maternal mortality is 23.7%?
5x expanded by Sadads (talk), Als242 (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note: Some of the content for this article was copied from other articles, but a vast majority of it was written today for the expansion of this article, and the subsequent need to expand the related articles. Also, this is well over 10x expansion, so I don't think that should be an issue, Sadads (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article review:Panama Creature
- The size checks out and the article is generally well-written and sourced. However, the specific fact cited in the hook about maternal mortality is not supported by a reference. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 05:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- The other author updated that stat, I am thinking we should modify the hook, how about "... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy and HIV/AIDS affects 140,000 women?", 92.14.184.150 (talk) 20:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- 140,000 women is a lot, but compared to what? What per cent of the population is affected? What makes the facts notable or interesting? The phrasing is also awkward. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 21:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- The size checks out and the article is generally well-written and sourced. However, the specific fact cited in the hook about maternal mortality is not supported by a reference. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 05:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dunno, total women in Ghana? or how about just a percentage figure? if 140K is 1% of the population, or if it's 20%, that's a measurable difference. Is breast cancer as the #1 malignancy unusual? I don't know. The hook is a device to motivate people to click through and read it. The hook as it is just doesn't do that for me, IMO. I don't have time to study the article. I'm sure you can find something more intriguing. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 17:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure whether this helps, but Ghana's total population is some 24m. If half are female, then 140k is about 1% of the female population. Schwede66 02:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think using a percentage would help. The article does say that breast cancer does account for 15.4 percent of all malignancies for women. That seems pretty notable to me. Pjthepiano (talk) 20:09, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- So with that in mind the new lead woud look like: "... that in Ghanian women's health, breast cancer is the leading malignacy effecting 15.4% of the population but HIV/AIDS only affects about 1% of women?" Sadads (talk) 10:58, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dunno, total women in Ghana? or how about just a percentage figure? if 140K is 1% of the population, or if it's 20%, that's a measurable difference. Is breast cancer as the #1 malignancy unusual? I don't know. The hook is a device to motivate people to click through and read it. The hook as it is just doesn't do that for me, IMO. I don't have time to study the article. I'm sure you can find something more intriguing. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 17:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 6
Hotel Plaza Grande
- ... that the Hotel Plaza Grande was the first formal hotel to be established in Quito, Ecuador when it began as the Majestic Hotel in 1943?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Dream Focus (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, ok, references accepted AGF. But article says "It was one of the first formal hotels in Quito", not "the first formal hotel". Also, it would be nice to add File:Hotel Plaza Grande2.jpg to the hook. --Soman (talk) 02:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dream Focus got notified of the above problem, but he advised that Dr. Blofeld had done all the work. Nobody bothered, though, to draw Dr. Blofeld's attention to it. I've just done so. Schwede66 02:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Fixed. It was the first formal hotel in the modern sense, obviously guest houses and inns which had other functions had existed before then from its founding but they weren't proper modern hotels.. By all means include image although I doubt it would have a lead hook..♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:38, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Indianapolis Art Center
- ... that the Indianapolis Art Center was founded in 1934 as a Works Progress Administration project?
Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions
- ... that two cases of child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions have emerged in 2011 both centered in highly ranked NYC youth basketball programs and both having moved to a criminal stage due to long-ago actions which have been alleged to, or been admitted to, have happened in Massachusetts?
Created by Swliv (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length of article OK, however hook is too long (306 characters instead of ~200) and rather convoluted, plus article title is not bolded.
Article history says nothing except: "correcting title of recent new article; edited from prev. article". What was the title of the recent new article and where is its edit history? When was it created?--GuillaumeTell 16:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length of article OK, however hook is too long (306 characters instead of ~200) and rather convoluted, plus article title is not bolded.
::: The previous page & its history was deleted by an admin (per an author's G7 request), as shown here. Shearonink (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The length may be fine but In my opinion, that's not a really appropriate topic to use. I know Wikipedia is not censored but there was an issue with something similar in the past that stopped a Big Jock Knew DYK hook being promoted. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 16:59, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
:* Since the edit history has been hidden from view with this G7 action, how can editors tell when the article was actually created or when it was actually expanded? Shearonink (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- I requested a page history merger (WP:HISTMERGE), so the history of Child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions now includes the history of the definct Child sexual abuse in the New York City religious institutions, which does verify that Swliv did indeed create the page on April 6, and that no other edits were made on the page. OCNative (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Guillaume and Shearonink, I hope you don't mind that I struck out your text that related to the page history since my history merger request has rendered the issue moot. Since it's now moot, I struck out the lines to try to reduce the complexity of this DYK request. OCNative (talk) 01:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
To start I have to say thanks for all the good attention. This is not an easy one, I know.
- Second, a shorter (195 char.) and I think better variant:
- ... that two cases of child sexual abuse in New York City religious institutions have emerged in 2011 centered in prominent NYC youth basketball programs and with legal venue in Massachusetts?
Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Third, the background on the creation.
It's only circumstantial, but I'll start by noting that the current article was created April 9, yet this self-nomination is under the 6th. That's because I started the nomination of the original article (all mine, no edits on it, started on the 6th, 27 page views on the 7th); then I realized that my typo, in effect, in the title was a real blemish; so I proceeded to create the new page (and, yes, with a good deal more editing of my original work, but nothing fundamental) and then empty out the old page, as I understood to be the appropriate way to (as happened) have an admin. eliminate it. (I didn't want it hanging around, think that's understandable.) Then I came back to the self-nom. but forgot to move it to the 9th. (And have worried about that a little, in the interim.) Anyway, the change in the title was simply that I'd left a "the" in in front of "New York City": Child sexual abuse in the New York City religious institutions. Obviously blemished, I think.More substantively, to trace my approach to the article just a little: The NY mag. article I read maybe two weeks ago. Then a primary subject of that article, interviewed in South Carolina and all, B. Oliva, pled guilty in Massachusetts. I only stumbled on the guilty plea because the page views of Christ The King Regional High School spiked. Once I saw that, I felt I had to try to pull together what I'd learned (feeling I was sort of playing catch up, by then, but having to do it anyway). I have to say at the moment I can't recall how the second case -- E. Lorch, still before the Mass. courts -- came to my view. If anyone's interested, I'll trace my path. (The coincidences between the two, which the DYK uses, were pretty striking to me, once I had found the latter one and worked it up.)
- Fourth, I'll say I've been following some of the widespread Wiki work on the general subject of child sexual abuse, and contributing from time to time, for quite a while. I could go into my history here in more detail if anyone wants, but for now I'll just go to the "censorship" comment above. I appreciate but haven't explored the references given. I may explore them and will respond if I do. Meanwhile, I'd say that I think Wikipedia has done a pretty good job on this general, difficult area and, on the other hand, there's much more that can and I hope will be done. I did marvel at the three "category bars" (I don't know what they're called; "hide"/ "show" at the bottom) which I imported into my article from probably Philadelphia. So much there. So much more that could be. I do think my current NYC contribution, also I'm sure not perfect, is nonetheless worthy of Wikipedia and, hence, of consideration for DYK. I'll leave it at that. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 01:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Swliv, I hope you don't mind that I struck out the text that related to the page history since my history merger request has rendered the issue moot (and also verified your story completely). Since it's now moot, I struck out the lines to try to reduce the complexity of this DYK request. OCNative (talk) 01:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't mind at all, of course. Thanks for clearing up that problem with my nomination. I've wondered about whether the nomination is languishing terminally, and in effect still do. But at least the package is cleaner, now. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- After that moment of self-pity, I thought first about at least alerting earlier commenters to the history clarification but then was quickly reminded of the outstanding The C of E. comment. I've now reviewed the Big Jock Knew article and exchange over DYK back in March. First, given my interest in the general subject, I was drawn into the article and the DYK exchange. I liked learning about the controversy. On the other hand, while I'm still quite new to the DYK process, ultimately I think I agreed with the gist of comments which said it felt incomplete to have an article about a controversial chant without having an article about the controversy itself. As to the relevance of that article and decision to the decision on the current article -- including the expressed concern over censorship in Wikipedia -- I don't quite see the applicability. One of the two cases referenced in this DYK has proceeded through the courts to a guilty plea; the other is in the courts with an indictment handed down by a grand jury. The two other cases covered in the article are mostly documented elsewhere in Wikipedia but fit well within the new article's umbrella title. Yes, child sexual abuse is controversial, but it's well covered in Wikipedia (not perfectly, but pretty widely and deeply) and the two current cases have their unusual aspects as well as considerable commonality with the broad, grim (to allow myself an editorial comment) reality of many, many other cases, many documented in Wikipedia. I hope this helps in any continued consideration of this nomination. Swliv (talk) 23:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 7
Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006
- ... that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 was added at the last possible moment and voted on without verifying the actual language prior to the vote?
Created by Hbaum16(talk), Samuel.G.Mills (talk), and Amoy48473 (talk). Nominated by My76Strat (talk) at 01:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Killer Kowalski Memorial Show
- ... that Ox Baker (pictured), a former tag team partner of Walter "Killer" Kowalski, was among the wrestling legends who spoke at the Killer Kowalski Memorial Show in 2008?
Created by 72.74.219.7 (talk). Nominated by 72.74.219.7 (talk) at 10:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. However, the hook fact about Baker being a former tag team partner of Killer Kowalski does not appear in the article. Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I added the fact and a citation for it. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:46, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Dickshooter
- ... that Dickshooter was named for Dick Shooter?
- Reviewed: Hoko River Formation ([1])
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date OK, Hook fact supported by the reference. Mjroots (talk) 13:32, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- This discussion does not belong here. There's an article talk page to discuss content issues.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
As the article is right now, it is only ~ 700 characters, well short of the required 1500. Canada Hky (talk) 23:23, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- It is fixed now.Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- The information about unrelated locales was just re-added. Its possible there just might not be enough material to hit the criteria, funny name or not. Canada Hky (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note that the name and scope of the article have been changed since it was first created. It was originally an article about the community of Dickshooter, Idaho. It is now about how the name "Dickshooter" has been given to several places in Owyhee County, Idaho. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Are there any similar articles about a collection of features, none of which seem particularly notable on their own? If they are all notable, I'd say they should all have their own articles, and a dab page. If Dick Shooter is notable, I'd say the material about what was named after him could all be included on one page. As it is - this just seems like a lot of dedication to something for the sake of a funny name, and I don't think that's a great thing to feature. Canada Hky (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I think what you're saying is that this is inadmissible to DYK due to WP:SYNTH? I think the sources for each location note that they were named after Mr. Shooter, and the current title works as well as "Places Named After Dick Shooter" would. Whether this is the greatest article or not, I think it technically meets all of the DYK criteria now. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)comment edited at 18:09
- Well, "Dick Shooter" doesn't seem to be notable. A list of non-notable places named after him seems questionable as to whether it merits a Wikipedia entry. The fact that each place on its own does not have enough material on it to get 1500 characters isn't really a mark in its favour. I'm not questioning whether it is the greatest article, I'm questioning whether this listing of places is encyclopedic. Canada Hky (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dick Shooter is not notable, the places named after him are, if for nothing else then at least for an unusual name, but Dickchooter creek listed in the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System, and Dickshooter ridge mentioned in the Act adopted by US congress.
- This discussion does not belong here. Notability is not one of DYK criteria. There are afd to discuss notability of the articles.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, "Dick Shooter" doesn't seem to be notable. A list of non-notable places named after him seems questionable as to whether it merits a Wikipedia entry. The fact that each place on its own does not have enough material on it to get 1500 characters isn't really a mark in its favour. I'm not questioning whether it is the greatest article, I'm questioning whether this listing of places is encyclopedic. Canada Hky (talk) 23:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I think what you're saying is that this is inadmissible to DYK due to WP:SYNTH? I think the sources for each location note that they were named after Mr. Shooter, and the current title works as well as "Places Named After Dick Shooter" would. Whether this is the greatest article or not, I think it technically meets all of the DYK criteria now. Qrsdogg (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)comment edited at 18:09
- Are there any similar articles about a collection of features, none of which seem particularly notable on their own? If they are all notable, I'd say they should all have their own articles, and a dab page. If Dick Shooter is notable, I'd say the material about what was named after him could all be included on one page. As it is - this just seems like a lot of dedication to something for the sake of a funny name, and I don't think that's a great thing to feature. Canada Hky (talk) 15:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note that the name and scope of the article have been changed since it was first created. It was originally an article about the community of Dickshooter, Idaho. It is now about how the name "Dickshooter" has been given to several places in Owyhee County, Idaho. Qrsdogg (talk) 04:46, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- The information about unrelated locales was just re-added. Its possible there just might not be enough material to hit the criteria, funny name or not. Canada Hky (talk) 03:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 8
Polyfluorene
- ... that molecules that chemists isolated from coal tar in 1883 have been made into a polymer (called polyfluorene) that powers solar cells?
5x expanded by Aromaticmoleculessmell (talk), Polymersgrpmem (talk). Nominated by Klsyking (talk) at 14:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article created in sandbox and then moved to user space on April 8, with merged history documenting sandbox editing. On-line subscription content accepted in good faith. I copy-edited the hook, for specificity (1883 versus "over 100 years ago") and modality ("powers" versus "can power", because experiments have been performed that establish fact). Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 11:14, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Verified on-line references (only for DYK claim) at my university , today. Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 22:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Returned from queues after desperate attempts to fix this lead. (i) The (non-structural) images of this article can't be used with this nom, because the solar cell image is not based on polyfluorenes, and the luminescence image above can't easily be linked to applications (OLEDs use electroluminescence, the image is of photoluminescence). Thus I don't think it can be a lead hook. The hook itself is physically incorrect, and needs complete rewriting, that I'd leave to the nominator - the article is written by newcomers and is tricky in parts (more of a research report than an encyclopedical entry). Materialscientist (talk) 01:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Sensational Sherri Memorial Cup Tournament, Shinya Hashimoto Memorial Legacy Cup Tournament, Hustle King Memorial Six Man Tag Team Tournament
- ... that professional wrestling events held to honor deceased competitors have included the Sensational Sherri Memorial Cup Tournament, the Shinya Hashimoto Memorial Legacy Cup Tournament, and the Hustle King Memorial Six Man Tag Team Tournament?
Created by 72.74.224.37 (talk), 72.74.202.170 (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 22:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 9
William Hunt Painter
- ... that Fumaria bastardii has only been found twice in Britain and both times by the Rev. W.H.Painter?
Created by Parkywiki (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 17:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Notability problems, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Hunt Painter. Sandstein 17:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the conditional approval for this article. I'm optimistic that it will get through AfD given the 1800 references to his book including a recent citation in an American botany book. I believe it will take a week to go through that process. Victuallers (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well it took less than a week and the AfD returned with a strong keep and some nice comments about the article. Can someone recheck, I think Sandstein's only issue was notability Victuallers (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- The article's sources appear to differ with the hook and article on the plant species. According to the cited source, the plant associated with Painter is Fumaria painteri. --Allen3 talk 23:31, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
2012 United States federal budget
- ... that Democratic and Republican plans for the 2012 United States federal budget both focus on deficit reduction, but differ in their changes to taxation, entitlement programs, and research funding?
5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Kommilitonen!
- The expansion was recent and more than 5 times, so that's good. The article is somewhat thinly sourced, but meets the 'at least one ref per paragraph' requirement. There are a couple of 'this section is empty' tags on the page, and that gives the distinct impression of the article being incomplete, which violates additional rule D7. You'll have to deal with that. Also, the sentence(s) that states the hook fact needs to be directly referenced and you'll have to do that, too. Once the article appears no longer incomplete, please remove the stub tags and the stub assessment. Schwede66 03:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I will fill out or remove the empty sections within the next day or so. As for the sourcing, all the information in each paragraph comes from the cited source for that paragraph. I could have put the same ref after every sentence in each paragraph, but it's generally understood that if a paragraph contains a ref only at its end, that ref applies to everything in the paragraph. The hook is comparing facts from two different refs (but published in the same newspaper, written by the same author), but I see this as akin to the rule that routine mathematical calculations are not original research. Essentially, if one ref says "the Democratic budget increases X funding" and the other says "the Republican budget decreases X funding", then it's an routine, uncontroversial statement to say that the funding plans are different. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 07:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Update: I have dealt with the empty sections. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 17:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Michelle Linn-Gust
- ... that author Michelle Linn-Gust (pictured) released her first book Do They Have Bad Days in Heaven? Surviving the Suicide Loss of a Sibling which was about her experiences from her sister's suicide?
--BabbaQ (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Michelle Linn-Gust's first book in 2001 gave advice on surviving the suicide of siblings?
- ALT2: ... that Michelle Linn-Gust's first book in 2001 was about surviving her sister's suicide at age 17?
- Comment: Article needs additional reliable, independent sources to establish eligibility of subject and article for notability; note lack of independent reviews of books in newspapers/magazines. Please note appropriate format for inline citations of sources.
DYK eligibility requires additional work. Parkwells (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Dagens man
- ... that Dagens man is a Swedish dating show on TV4 Plus hosted by model and actress Carolina Gynning (pictured)?
self nom --BabbaQ (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed:Bhikshatana.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ready for DYK.--VictoriousGastain (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- While it looks like it's a "dejtingprogram" in Swedish, I changed the English in the hook from "datingshow" to "dating show". But if that's some new compound word that I haven't heard of, or if it's somehow desired stylistically, go ahead and change it back. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article contains only 773 characters of readable prose. DYK's minimum qualifying size is 1500 characters. --Allen3 talk 22:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Bhikshatana
- ... that Tamil devotional poetry describes how clothes of married women slipped off by the sight of the Hindu god Shiva as a naked beggar?
Created by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Maud Gage Baum reviewed. --Redtigerxyz Talk 11:20, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
I think "at" won't solve the problem and that the hooks needs rewriting for clarity (it reads: "clothes .. slipped .. as a naked beggar" or even as god Shiva was a naked beggar). Materialscientist (talk) 01:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Seven Wonders of Colombia
- ... that the Salt Cathedral of Zipaquirá got the most votes on a competition choosing the Seven Wonders of Colombia?
created by Alwhorl (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article has only 231 characters in prose (1500 required). Please expand it. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 08:56, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 10
Celts in Transylvania
5x expanded by Boldwin (talk). Nominated by Codrinb (talk) at 16:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, 5x expansion and hook check, but I have to question the title of the article. Transylvania is part of Dacia and most of the article is about the Celtic occupation of Dacia. I think the article should be called "Celts in Dacia" for accuracy but use the Transylvania line for the hook.Thelmadatter (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- This is a good question. Yet, the ancient Dacia’s area was larger than the territory of the modern-day Transylvania. The books where I took information from were specifying Transylvania. The article is including information of the Celtic sites, inscriptions, artifacts from the area of Transylvania. If we change the name, we have to include Celtic and Celto-Dacian sites from Southern Poland, East Hungary, Southwestern Slovakia, and other sites from South and East Romania. It would be probably better, to clarify better this demarcation Dacia vs Transylvania, in the article's sections. Do you have any suggestion? Boldwin (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- A few sections were updated and some clarifications were added to show the focus on the part of Dacia that is today Transylvania. Also, although there were Celts in other parts of Dacia (and in what Romans and Greeks called Moesia and Scythia Minor), the Celtic presence is far more substantial in Transylvania. Indeed, the scope of the article could be extended, but I think that should be done outside the DYK since there is a lot more to be covered in such a case. If a Celts in Dacia article will get started, generic parts of Celts in Transylvania could be moved there at that time. --Codrin.B (talk) 20:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Henry Conybeare
- ... that Henry Conybeare, a civil engineer who planned a water-supply scheme for Mumbai which is still in use today, also designed St Mary's Church, Itchen Stoke, (pictured) in Hampshire?
- ALT1:... that Henry Conybeare, who designed the Afghan Church in Colaba, Mumbai, was co-builder of the Cefn Coed Viaduct near Cefn-coed-y-cymmer?
- Reviewed: Ruislip-Northwood Urban District
- ALT1:... that Henry Conybeare, who designed the Afghan Church in Colaba, Mumbai, was co-builder of the Cefn Coed Viaduct near Cefn-coed-y-cymmer?
Created by GuillaumeTell (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, reference and date checkout. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 02:31, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Bumastus
- ... that the extinct trilobite Bumastus (artist's rendition pictured) was named after its resemblance to large grapes?
- Comment: My third self nom. Image is my own work and specifically created for the article.
Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Treaty of Chernomen
- ... that John VI Kantakouzenos concealed the purpose of the 1327 Byzantine–Bulgarian Treaty of Chernomen by describing it as eight days of rejoicing and feasts?
- Reviewed: Gunda Gunde
Created by Gligan (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 08:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Edward J. Burke
- ... that Edward J. Burke coached the Drexel Dragons men's basketball team to their first NCAA Tournament?
- Reviewed: Jefferson nickel
Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Move to mainspace date. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 23:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook fact, and hook length check out. Incidentally, a search on the NCAA's website[2] reveals Burke's birth date as December 4, 1945 (he's listed under Eddie Burke). Would be nice to get that basic biographical detail in the article, but the article's good to go either way. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
M2 gas mask
- ... that the M2 gas mask protected the wearer for at least five hours against the common World War I chemical weapon phosgene?
- Reviewed: 5th Arizona Territorial Legislature
Created by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 18:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. However, much of the information is based on a blog. I found at least 3 good sources for further information on Google Books, and listed the links on the talk page. Perhaps you could wean off the blog and polish up the article with the book info? Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Adam Eckfeldt
... that longtime United States Mint Chief Coiner Adam Eckfeldt began what became the Smithsonian's National Numismatic Collection?
Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Walter Gilbert (cricketer).--Wehwalt (talk) 22:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. The hook is a bit staid, though. What do you think about:
- ALT1: ... that when the first cents coined by the US Mint were ridiculed for their crudeness, Mint worker Adam Eckfeldt replaced the chain design with a wreath and put a trefoil under Liberty's head? Yoninah (talk) 19:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
St Mary Magdalene's Church, Tortington
- ... that St Mary Magdalene's Church in Tortington (pictured) has "an amazing congregation of grotesque monsters"?
- Reviewed: Abraham Bolden (Diff)
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date verified. Offline hook accepted in good faith. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Walter Gilbert (cricketer)
... that cricketer Walter Gilbert, a cousin of W. G. Grace, was caught stealing money from a team-mate?
Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, ref all checked, though subscription ref accepted in good faith, everything in order, well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. I don't like hooks that solely focus on a negative aspect of a subject. It is forbidden in regards to living people, of course, but it's not good with dead people either. StAnselm (talk) 21:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- We've had many other instances of foul play by subjects, for whom we only mentioned positive information. How about:
- ALT1:
... that amateur English cricketer Walter Gilbert, a cousin of W. G. Grace, had his best season in 1876 when he scored 205 not out for Gloucestershire?Yoninah (talk) 21:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm... a bit dull, to be honest. This chap's only really claim to fame is to be one of the few famous cricketers to be caught in a compromising situation, resulting in a fairly spectacular fall from grace which was perpetuated for approximately 90 years. And I think the original hook is far more likely to make someone take a look. Much more than someone who no-one probably heard of making a score which isn't too impressive in modern times. But if it is a big deal at DYK that the hooks must be positive (even when the subject has been dead for 86 years), then I suppose ALT1 will have to suffice, as there is not too much else in his life not related to his ... erm ... indiscretion. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK, how about:
- ALT2: ... that a conspiracy of silence surrounded the fate of English cricketer Walter Gilbert for 60 years after his death? Yoninah (talk) 21:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon
- ... that in 1864 the Church of St John the Baptist, Upper Eldon, (pictured) in Hampshire was being used as a cowshed, and in 1973 its only occupant was "a beautiful white owl"?
- Reviewed: North Piddle
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
North Piddle
- ... that residents of North Piddle saw a flash of light prior to one of England's strongest earthquakes and speculated its cause was a a meteor impact?
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Nominated by Canuckle (talk) at 08:17, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, ref OK. But the ref does not say it was "one of England's strongest earthquakes"; this has to be deduced from the link, which is not OK for DYK. The ref says what the article says: it "exceeded in violence any previous instance of seismic energy here within the present century". Would you like to re-word the hook?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Would "one of 19th-Century England's" be appropriate? Canuckle (talk) 03:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, that's correct, but it's still not what the source actually says. As the earthquake occurred in 1896, and it was the strongest of the century to date, it probably was the strongest in the century. But again that is deduction. Can you make anything of its occurrence in 1896 and the extract I quoted above? Or, to keep it simple, just leave out the bit about its being the strongest and confine the hook to the the date and the witness's experiences and speculations.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1 ... that some residents of North Piddle speculated that an earthquake that "exceeded in violence any previous instance of seismic energy there within the present century" was caused by a meteor impact?--Mbz1 (talk) 16:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- The source does not say that they thought the earthquake was caused by a meteor, but rather that the flash of light accompanying it was attributed to a meteor. Would you accept:
- ALT2 ... that the flash of light accompanying an earthquake in 1896 was attributed by some residents of North Piddle to a large meteor? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sure.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- for ALT2. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sure.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Supernatural (Des'ree album)
- ... that Supernatural, a 1998 album by British singer Des'ree, sold 50,000 copies in the United States, although her 1994 album I Ain't Movin' sold over a million copies?
- Reviewed: Long Island serial killer ([4])
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 05:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Gandrung
- ... that Gandrung traditional dance (pictured), popular in Java, Bali and Lombok, was originally dedicated to the rice goddess, Dewi Sri?
created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 20:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC+8)
Rome bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics
- ... that the Rome bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics will use 70 percent of the city's existing venues?
Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Highest opening stand against England in Australia
- ... in the Fourth Test of the 1965-66 Ashes series the Australian cricket captain Bobby Simpson and his batting partner Bill Lawry made 244 runs in 255 minutes, the highest opening stand against England in Australia?
Created by Philip Jelley (talk). Self nom Philipjelley (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. The heading is wrong on this page. It should be 1965-66 Ashes series. There are also some ugly red-linked "main" tags at the top of the article. StAnselm (talk) 20:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Question: Have you reviewed another article? HMS Plover (M26) doesn't count, since that had already been reviewed. StAnselm (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I also reviewed "List of ICC Cricket World Cup finals", I have created the two new articles mentioned, so they are no lnger ugly and read, though still under construction.Philipjelley (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Did you read Template:Main/doc? That's not what "main" tags are for. StAnselm (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 11
Brothertoft
- ... that up to 200 people played a game of football on land near Brothertoft in the 1760s as a protest against enclosure?
5x expanded by Panderoona (talk). Nominated by Sitush (talk) at 19:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment from nominator - I've done a fair amount of work on this but do not want the credit. The other major editor is a newbie & she brought it to my attention + carried on with her own edits there. I feel that a little encouragement here would go a long way. - Sitush (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment from nominee - Id like to thank Sitush for all his help, he deserves credit for being a great teacher :) Panderoona 20:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panderoona (talk • contribs)
Louisa Hubbard, Women's Emigration Society
- ... that Louisa Hubbard founded the Women's Emigration Society in 1880 to help young women from London find employment outside of the United Kingdom?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Alimuddin Zumla[5]
Christian Thomas (ice hockey)
- ... that Steve and Christian Thomas are the first father-son combination to each score at least 50 goals in a single Ontario Hockey League season?
- Reviewed: Allocosa brasiliensis
5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note that this article is currently at AfD, so this nomination is contingent on a "keep" close. Rlendog (talk) 17:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, and hook verified. This looks like it will probably be kept, at which time this hook will be good to go. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Theodoxus fluviatilis
- ... that the snail Theodoxus fluviatilis (shells pictured) can reach population density up to 6412 snails per m²?
5x expanded by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Messier 91 [6]
Charles Alston
- ... that artist Charles Alston's bust of Martin Luther King Jr. was the first image of an African American displayed at the White House?
5x expanded by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Loire Valley chansonniers
- Length and date are fine, and the hook is quite interesting. I think we could link to African American as well. But did you review an article here? StAnselm (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Black Eagle Dam
- ... that Black Eagle Dam was dynamited on April 14, 1908, so that floodwaters from collapsed Hauser Dam could pass through?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 14:12, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Spring Creek Site - Tim1965 (talk) 14:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date verified; sources taken in good faith. Suggest rewording the hook to show that only a portion of the dam was dynamited (rather than the whole dam was blown up). The picture also needs to be referred to in the hook. matt (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT:... that a portion of Black Eagle Dam (pictured) was dynamited on April 14, 1908, so that floodwaters from the collapsed Hauser Dam could pass through?
Bright Angel (Waterhouse)
- ... that Bright Angel, composed by Graham Waterhouse for three bassoons and contrabassoon, relates to the Bright Angel Trail of the Grand Canyon which the composer hiked with his father at the age of 9?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Richard Riemerschmid --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- I blocked out that large quote, and without it, the page is under 1500 char. Also, the first two paragraphs of the History section, from where you pulled your hook, lacks inline citations. Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- We probably won't find inline citations for the fact that someone remembers his hike as a boy. It was the year when his father taught in Indiana, 1972, before his tenth birthday in November. - As to the quote: that is the personal version of the artist, "first hand", so to speak". I don't dare to say it differently, it would loose authenticity. Summary: the music was inspired by that hike, fact or not. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK, now I see the hook ref in footnote #1. Now, what can you do about expanding the article with another paragraph? The quote is fine as is; it just doesn't count for the DYK character count per Rule A2. Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Give me some time, please. The piece was performed today in Wigmore Hall, perhaps there will be a review or something additional in the program book that I might use. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- yes, review found, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Brian Morris (judge)
... that Montana Supreme Court Justice Brian Morris, who clerked for U.S. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, is one of the Stanford Cardinal football team's all-time single-game pass reception leaders?
- ALT1:... that Montana Supreme Court Justice Brian Morris, who clerked for U.S. Chief Justice William Rehnquist, was the starting fullback in the 1986 Gator Bowl for the Stanford Cardinal football team?
- ALT2:
... that Montana Supreme Court Justice Brian Morris was a state champion in high school track, four-year Stanford Cardinal football letterwinner, and law clerk for US Chief Justice William Rehnquist? - Reviewed: Abuse defense ([7])
Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, you know how to pick the good ones! Date, length, hook ref all verified for ALT1, which reads simply and cleanly. I've taken out some linking so it won't look all-blue. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Only the fun judges have enough info to hit the 1500 characters required for DYK. The really boring judges (for example, I created Dennis A. Cornell and Rick Haselton) have so little info about them, I can't even get to 1500 characters! OCNative (talk) 01:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Loire Valley chansonniers
- ... that the Loire Valley chansonniers are 15th century illustrated songbooks that are smaller than a modern paperback?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Gandrung
Triniscope
- ... that RCA used its Triniscope color television design during FCC meetings, even though it was clear it would not be accepted?
Created by User:Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed self-propelled particles.
- Length and hook are fine, offline reference accepted in good faith - Basement12 (T.C) 14:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
6th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that the 6th Arizona Territorial Legislature was delayed from 1869 until 1871 because no Territorial Governor was available to call for elections?
- Reviewed: Barend Joseph Stokvis ([8])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook check out; offline refs accepted in good faith. This is good to go for DYK. By the way, I love this entire Arizona Territorial Legislature series you're doing; great job on them all! Also, while reviewing this article for DYK, I took the liberty of including "(a future Governor of California)" after George Stoneman's name and I changed "The session convened on January 11, 1971" to "The session convened on January 11, 1871" as I assume that this was a typo (i.e. the session was delayed 2 years, not 102 years). OCNative (talk) 02:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Gunda Gunda Gunde
- ... that, with over 220 volumes, the monastery of Gunda Gunde has one of the largest collections of Ge'ez manuscripts in Ethiopia?
Created by Llywrch (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length are ok but I have 2 problems with this 1) the hook doesn't seem fully supported by the sources - please can you specify where it is mentioned as one of the largest collections. I couldn't find it in the sources. My second problem concerns the name. It seems more frequently referred to as Gunda Gunde when searched for, including modern 2007 sources. Gunda Gunda sounds cooler (like Zenga Zenga) but I think it's important to keep article with the most current and most widely used naming conventions, so this might be worth a check. Thanks! Good article apart from that btw. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 23:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- About the name: Due to a lack of a standardized transliteration system for Amharic -> English, spelling Ethiopian names are very inconsistent. (See the footnote to Wukro for one set of examples.) However, I went back to my printed sources, & they all use "Gunda Gunde" -- so I'll fix that. (I must have confused this monastery with a village 50 km away, just across the border in Eritrea: Guna guna.) As for your first point, I'll need to do some more research to confirm or correct that fact; however, considering that the library of the average Ethiopian church or monastery contains less than a dozen volumes, 200 volumes is a very large number. -- llywrch (talk) 00:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date are okay. However, I was unable to find references to the "one of the largest collections of its kind in Ethiopia" claim in the cited source. — Toдor Boжinov — 08:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- After a lot of searching, I've found source which states it was (at one time) the largest library of "Abyssinian" literature (which is the older Western name for the Ge'ez language) & have added more material to put the size of its collection in perspective, compared to both inside & outside the country. I don't know if that satisfies all of the concern with that statement, or I should come up with a different hook. -- llywrch (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for requiring so much additional work on your part. The de Jacobis statement seems a bit too distant in time to be considered valid today. Your research has proven that there are larger collections, but not that this one is among the largest (in fact, the two you have cited are significantly larger). Perhaps it would be better to come up with a hook that can be more easily sourced. Why not use the bit about the dragon? — Toдor Boжinov — 12:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- No problem about the extra work. (I enjoy doing the research. ;-) But as for an alternative hook, I'd rather not use the dragon: many Christian sites are located where mythical creatures or pagan sacred sites. How about a hook like, "... that, despite being an important institution of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, the monastery of Gunda Gunde provided many converts to the Roman Catholic missionary and later saint Justin de Jacobis"? -- llywrch (talk) 19:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Lardea, Ktenia (fortress)
- ... that the medieval fortresses Lardea and Ktenia in modern southeastern Bulgaria were lost by the Second Bulgarian Empire to Byzantium in 1322 only to be recovered in 1324, then ceded back and once again recaptured in 1332?
- ALT1:... that the medieval fortresses Lardea and Ktenia in modern southeastern Bulgaria changed hands between the Second Bulgarian Empire and the Byzantine Empire several times in the first half of the 14th century?
- Reviewed: Peñamiller
Created by Gligan (talk), TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 20:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
5th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that the 5th Arizona Territorial Legislature had difficulty maintaining a quorum in its lower house due to the large number of members that did not attend the session?
- Reviewed: Open Your Eyes (Yes song) ([9])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
1924–25 Nelson F.C. season
- ... that Nelson F.C. lost only one home match in the Football League Third Division North during the 1924–25 season?
- Reviewed: Indianapolis Art Center
Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Felicia D. Henderson
- ... that African-American writer Felicia D. Henderson has worked on projects as varied as the television series Soul Food, Gossip Girl, and Fringe, and the comic series Teen Titans?
Created by Ruby2010 comment! 06:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Air India One Ruby2010 comment! 06:13, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Barend Joseph Stokvis
- ... that Barend Joseph Stokvis, a Dutch professor of medicine, was the first to describe the rare disease acute porphyria in a 1889 study?
5x expanded by Jfdwolff (talk). Self nom at 15:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates and lengths both look good. Hook and article appear consistent with provided online sources, so AGF of offline sourcing. The nomination however does not include any proof of a hook review as required by rule 5 of the selection criteria. The review is needed before this nomination can be approved. --Allen3 talk 17:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Samantha McClymont. Ironically on hold for the same reasons. JFW | T@lk 20:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Dates and lengths both look good. Hook and article appear consistent with provided online sources, so AGF of offline sourcing. The nomination however does not include any proof of a hook review as required by rule 5 of the selection criteria. The review is needed before this nomination can be approved. --Allen3 talk 17:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Mikhail Pervukhin
- ... that Mikhail Pervukhin, a First Deputy Chairman and a Deputy Premier of the Council of Ministers, was a central figure in the creation of the Soviet atomic bomb?
5x created/expanded by TIAYN (talk) 19:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: 1924–25 Nelson F.C. season
Length and date. But fact on being First Deputy Premier is only mentioned in the lede, needs mention further down with hook. Also, the sentence where he's mentioned as important in the atomic programme should have a ref directly after it. --Soman (talk) 02:24, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 12
Darryl Richard (actor)
- ... that child actor Darryl Richard made his last TV appearance on the series finale of ABC's The Donna Reed Show, March 19, 1966, a day after his 20th birthday?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012
Ricky Hunter
- ... that Charles B. Sprott sued the reigning World Heavyweight Champion in 1973 for calling him names in a parking lot? Created by Jjron (talk). Self nom at 11:32, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Groupe Bogolan Kasobané (diff)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Just wondering if readers will identify "Ricky Hunter" more than "Charles B. Sprott"? Do you want to write:
- ALT1:
... that Charles B. Sprott, better known by his ring names "Ricky Hunter" and the masked wrestler "The Gladiator", sued the reigning World Heavyweight Champion in 1973 for calling him names in a parking lot?Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right, I had considered that also, but it does make it pretty wordy, with a fair bit of reading before you get to the 'punchline'. Also thought with DYK it's about drawing people to the article, and with the short version you look at it and think, "what the...? That sounds weird, I gotta see what this is about", whereas with the longer version a lot of people would get to the ring names stuff and just think "oh, it's just some wrestling story" and not bother looking any further. I also considered just straight out using Ricky Hunter instead of Charles B. Sprott as a sort of middle road, but it was Sprott rather than his alias that is reported to have sued. Another ALT I considered was something along the lines of:
- ALT2:
... that Charles B. Sprott held championship titles under five different names? - ALT3:
... that Charles B. Sprott held championship titles under five different names, including "Ricky Hunter" and "The Gladiator"?
- ALT2:
- Personally I tend to prefer the original version, but there's a few options to pick from for whoever chooses these things. Thanks. --jjron (talk) 10:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right, I had considered that also, but it does make it pretty wordy, with a fair bit of reading before you get to the 'punchline'. Also thought with DYK it's about drawing people to the article, and with the short version you look at it and think, "what the...? That sounds weird, I gotta see what this is about", whereas with the longer version a lot of people would get to the ring names stuff and just think "oh, it's just some wrestling story" and not bother looking any further. I also considered just straight out using Ricky Hunter instead of Charles B. Sprott as a sort of middle road, but it was Sprott rather than his alias that is reported to have sued. Another ALT I considered was something along the lines of:
Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012
- ... that the infrastructure planning for Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign began soon after his loss in the 2008 campaign?
Created by GageSkidmore (talk), MAINEiac4434 (talk). Nominated by Wasted Time R (talk) at 04:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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- To me, the hook source seems like speculation on the journalist's part, and the point is further overstated in the hook. It seems to imply subterfuge and vicarious motives, and thereby violate criterion 4.Lampman (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't read any of that into it. Some people after a loss are determined to try again, and begin preparations to do so; that's value-neutral. But how about:
- ALT1: ... that the first phase of Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign was announced via a video message? Wasted Time R (talk) 10:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I prefer that; to my knowledge, Romney's intention to run in 2012 was not explicitly stated by the candidate himself until now. Date, length and hook ok. The article could be longer, as Billy says, but I assume that will come with time. Editors might want to take a look at the formatting of the references before it goes on the main page. Lampman (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the article can be expaned by three or four paragraphs to make it better. Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like there are no bare cites now. As for length, that will happen naturally; Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2008 ended up at 4,924 words, Rudy Giuliani presidential campaign, 2008 at 7,041 words, and John McCain presidential campaign, 2008 is 13,667 words, just to pick a few examples from four years ago. No need to rush the process ... Wasted Time R (talk) 03:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Alimuddin Zumla
- ... that Alimuddin Zumla was the first Zambian doctor to be shortlisted for the BMJ Group's Lifetime Achievement Award?
Created by CaliforniaAliBaba (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Garcorops jadis. cab (call) 07:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Kawasaki's theorem
- ... that according to Kawasaki's theorem, an origami crease pattern with one vertex may be folded flat (pictured) if and only if the sum of every other angle between consecutive creases is 180º?
- Reviewed: Antoine Germain Labarraque (diff)
5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I verified the 5-fold expansion. The article is well written and amply referenced. The graphic is attention-grabbing and informative. (It is nice to have a mathematical idea be the DYK, rather than an anecdote about a mathematician.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz (Discussion) 00:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Tesco bomb campaign
- ... that police used cryptic messages placed in a newspaper and disguised as Mensa puzzles to communicate with the perpetrator of a letter bomb campaign?
Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed #Chris Allison (police officer). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Pedro Virgili, Vilallonga del Camp
- ... that Pedro Virgili, from Vilallonga del Camp, was one of the most prominent royal surgeons of Spain in the 18th century?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 09:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Church of St Thomas à Becket, Capel♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length of both articles OK. However, there is no reference for the fact that Pedro Virgili was from Vilallonga del Camp. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Fixed. Thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Felipe González González
- ... that Felipe González González was Governor of Aguascalientes from 1998 to 2004?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 09:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Center Point, Camp County, Texas♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Allocosa brasiliensis
- ... that in the burrowing wolf spider Allocosa brasiliensis, males often eat older, less fecund females that they lured into their burrow using pheromones, while preferredly mating with virgins?
Created by Sarefo (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date and length check. AGF on the pheremone portion; the rest checks directly. I would suggest tightening the hook to "... that males burrowing wolf spiders Allocosa brasiliensis often eat older, less fecund females but mate with virgins?" Rlendog (talk) 17:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added some description. Actually the fact that spider males are larger than females and will eat them is the real novelty here. Possibly something like "... unlike many other spiders, where females eat males, the males of Allocosa brasiliensis often eat their females, particularly if these have already mated." Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 20:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Most of the pertinent sources should now be available in English @ article. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 22:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Church of St Thomas à Becket, Capel
- ... that it is said that Thomas à Becket preached either in the church dedicated to him (pictured), in Capel, Kent, or in its churchyard?
- Reviewed: Send tape echo echo delay
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Nice job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The Motherfucker With the Hat
- ... that The Motherfucker With the Hat took $239,221 during its first month on Broadway?
Created by MZMcBride (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 07:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- This article still needs a little more work before it is ready. The majority of the current text is quotations from reviews (indeed, the article reads like a review), and if I exclude those, it falls short of the length requirement. Also, several of the paragraphs with the reviews lack inline citations to the actual articles they quote; I imagine they were taken from the aggregation on StageGrade, but I don't think that's ideal in terms of sourcing. I would also suggest that a more interesting hook could be found than a statistic (like perhaps that it was Chris Rock's theater debut?). Dominic·t 08:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Checked: Leigh Newton Chzz ► 08:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Please re-check, as the article has developed and is less of a quote-tarm. All paragraphs have references (and the quotations are now sourced to the original). I'm happy with an alternative hook - for example,
- ... that The Motherfucker With the Hat was the Broadway debut for the actor Chris Rock?
Leigh Newton
- ... that Juice Newton played Australian rules football for the Melbourne Football Club?
Created by Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
James C. Nelson
- ... that James C. Nelson, appointed as a Montana Supreme Court Justice by George W. Bush's campaign chair, wrote that blocking same-sex marriage was a "societal cancer grounded in bigotry and hate?"
- ALT1:... that James C. Nelson, appointed as a Montana Supreme Court Justice by Republican Governor Marc Racicot, wrote that blocking same-sex marriage was a "societal cancer grounded in bigotry and hate?"
- Reviewed: 6th Arizona Territorial Legislature ([10])
- Comment: Before my edits, this article was completely unsourced and consisted of 139 characters: "James C. Nelson (February 20, 1944 – ) is a justice on the Montana Supreme Court. He has served on the court since his appointment in 1993." With my edits, it is now 3,245 characters. This meets the requirements for both the newly-sourced BLP 2x expansion and the 5x expansion of any article.
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
St. Andrews Biological Station
- ... that St. Andrews Biological Station in New Brunswick is Canada's first marine biological research station?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Communion token
Ref checks out (Fisheries and Oceans Canada, sounds OK), length c. 3000 words of prose, article looks to be of a good standard. Chzz ► 07:15, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Song Beneath the Song
- ... that the first musical episode of Grey's Anatomy was conceived over seven years before it was produced, while the series was still untitled?
- Reviewed: Appy Awards ([11])
- Comment: Created in a sandbox on 25 March, moved to the mainspace on 12 April.
Created by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks to be grand. Hook citation checks out, timing is correct, and the article is definitely long enough. GRAPPLE X 22:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Alaungpaya
- ... that Alaungpaya was a village headman who founded the Konbaung Dynasty of Burma, and unified the country for the third time in its history?
5x expanded by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed article Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
A couple of concerns.
- 1) In the article, can you give an inline reference for unifying the country for the third time in Burmese history.
- 2) Is this a 5 times expansion, following the 5 day Rule? I see the previous edit of 26 March 2011. 8,079 bytes X 5 would be about 40,000 bytes and 5 days would be 31 March 2011, NOT 12 April 2011, some 17 days later. Wikipedia:Did you know#DYK rules
- IF you can address these above two issues, I would feel more comfortable passing it. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 14:13, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- IF I use this tool, the History shows on 26 March 2011 the article had 3424 bytes and on 12 April 2011 it had 23,986 - so, I'll approve length as being over 5 times expansion. So, IF you could address the issue of the rule of 5 days - then we could have approval.--Doug Coldwell talk 15:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook ref AGF.--Doug Coldwell talk 20:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Kenmare Sorceress
- ... that the Best in Show at the 1912 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, Kenmare Sorceress, was purchased from a brick-layer in Wales?
- Reviewed: Direct lobbying
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook, ref okay. Good to go --Epipelagic (talk) 21:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Glisachaemus
- ... that the only known specimen of the extinct planthopper Glisachaemus jonasdamzeni is preserved with a parasitic mite?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Gulf Coast Lines again for hook quality.
List of number-one dance hits of 2005 (UK)
- ... that the longest-running number one of the UK Dance Chart in 2005 was "Hung Up" by Madonna, which spent four weeks at the top of the chart?
- ALT1:... that the only act to top the UK Dance Chart in 2005 with more than two singles was Mylo?
5x expanded by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: This may be the sort of hook that you need to AGF on. Each week is sourced, so if someone wanted to go through and check every number one, they could, but I can assure you that both hooks are correct. I'll leave it to the discretion of the reviewer. A Thousand Doors (talk) 20:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: White Ware ([12]) A Thousand Doors (talk) 20:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Phoenix Tower, Chester
- ... that a plaque on Phoenix Tower (pictured) in Chester states that King Charles I stood on the tower in 1645 as he watched his soldiers being defeated at Rowton Moor?
- Reviewed: Mukhayriq
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless
- ... that in the 2010 documentary film 180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless, Jeff Johnson emulates the 1968 journey made by Yvon Chouinard and Doug Tompkins?
- Reviewed Alaungpaya.[13]
5x expanded by MichaelQSchmidt (talk) at 19:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Send tape echo echo delay
- ... that Geoff Emerick, who co-created the send tape echo echo delay audio effect at Abbey Road Studios (pictured), once said that "God only knows" how it worked?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Black Eagle Dam [14]. matt (talk) 17:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook, ref, image all OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Mukhayriq
- ... that Dr. Muqtedar Khan calls Jewish rabbi Mukhayriq "the first Jewish martyr of Islam and "a true Islamic hero"?
- Reviewed: Adrian Dodson ([15])
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- All DYK criteria met.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Andrew Harclay, 1st Earl of Carlisle
- ... that Edward II of England created Andrew Harclay (pictured) Earl of Carlisle in 1322, only to have him executed less than a year later?
5x expanded by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Everybody Was in the French Resistance...Now! Lampman (talk) 11:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed. Date, hook, length, ref okay. Length close to 5x expansion. Hybernator
Adrian Dodson
- ... that boxer Adrian Dodson competed for Guyana at the 1988 Summer Olympics and for Great Britain at the 1992 Summer Olympics?
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Janbirdi al-Ghazali [16] - Basement12 (T.C) 14:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Spring Creek Site
- ... that the Spring Creek Site in western Michigan is a type site for Ottawa pottery?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I've exhausted my Wikipedia time for the evening, so I'll not be able to review anything until tomorrow at least. Nyttend (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Treaty of Chernomen. Nyttend (talk) 12:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Appy Awards
- ... that Angry Birds was named App of the Year at the British Appy Awards for mobile device apps?
Created by The Rambling Man (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook verified. Interesting topic. Maybe "was named App of the Year", or "won the App of the Year accolade"? If you prefer the wording as is, that's fine with me. Good to go once you've reviewed a nomination (or provided a diff, if you've already done so and I've missed it). Frickative 23:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think I'll go with the hook as I've just adjusted it above, per your first suggestion. And I've reviewed Huntsman Marine Science Centre here. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Excellent, everything's verified and ready here. Frickative 17:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
La Maison de la Magie Robert-Houdin
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- Did you know that this publicly-owned museum "Musée de France" contains 170 objects constructed or collected by MagicianJean-Eugène Robert-Houdin, exhibits 19th century automatons and is the only public museum in Europe which incorporates in one place collections of magic and a site for permanent performing arts.
Created by 7&6=thirteen ([[User talk:7&6=thirteen]), Berean Hunter. Self nom at 03:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- FYI there is a [Blois.Maison de la Magie.wmt.jpg nice picture] in the article if that helps. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 03:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 13
Alexander Winterberger
- ... that Franz Liszt dedicated his Fantasy and Fugue on the Theme B-A-C-H (the BACH motif) to the organist Alexander Winterberger (pictured) who premiered it at the Merseburg Cathedral?
Created by JackofOz (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:25, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Hotel Lobby
- ... that artist Edward Hopper's wife served as the model for both women in his painting Hotel Lobby?
- Reviewed: St James' Church, Cooling
Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 17:06, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Evelyn M. Richardson
- ... that the award winning writer Evelyn M. Richardson (1902 – 1976) lived on a 600-acre island for 35 years?
Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Charles Silent
- Date and length okay, and the length of stay on the island can be calculated from the sources. But the size needs a reference, especially since the island itself does not have an article. --Pgallert (talk) 17:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reference supplied.Verne Equinox (talk) 23:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Elmo Tanner
- ... that Elmo Tanner’s early recordings appeared on Paramount Records’ race record series?
Created by 78.26 (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that "Heartaches," featuring Elmo Tanner’s whistling, became a #1 hit fourteen years after it was recorded?"
- ALT2:... that two separate recordings featuring Elmo Tanner shared the same #1 spot on Billboard magazine simultaneously?"
- Reviewed: Matthew Stockford
Charles Silent
- ... that Charles Silent tried to resign from the Arizona Supreme Court almost immediately upon taking up the office?
Created by Allen3 (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks OK. Published source accepted in good faith. Verne Equinox (talk) 22:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Joseph Bloomfield Leake
- ... that Joseph Bloomfield Leake left the Iowa State Senate to serve in the American Civil War but was later elected back to the Senate?
Created by Farragutful (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and sources verified - Basement12 (T.C) 11:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Great Britain at the 1994 Winter Paralympics
- ... that nordic skier Peter Young won a bronze medal for Great Britain at the 1994 Winter Paralympics, ten years after winning his first Paralympic medal at the 1984 Games?
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed 8th & 9th Arizona State Legislature (diff)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 06:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Garcorops jadis
- ... that the possibly extinct wall crab spider species Garcorops jadis was named for C.S. Lewis' Jadis, the White Witch?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Nata Bird Sanctuary
Nata Bird Sanctuary
... that the community initiated Nata Bird Sanctuary (Pictured pelicans in the reserve) in Botswana received the "Tourism for Tomorrow Award for the Southern Hemisphere” in 1993 in the very first year of its establishment?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Aziz Ahmad.--Nvvchar. 01:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and referencing are good. Hook reference taken on good faith.--Kevmin § 05:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've struck the original hook for the following reasons: • It's ambiguous: I read it to mean that it received the award in the first year of the award's establishment rather than the establishment of the sanctuary. • At 218 characters, the hook is a bit too long. • The title of the award in quotation marks is not correct according to the article (which I fixed according to the source; note that the hook ref is available via Google books, so no AGF required). • It has some formatting errors: upper case Pictured and mixed quotation marks. The following 189-character hook fixes it all:
- ALT1: ... that the community initiated Nata Bird Sanctuary (pelicans in the reserve pictured) in Botswana opened in 1993 and the same year received the "Tourism for Tomorrow" award for the Southern Hemisphere? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with the above hook.--Nvvchar. 09:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Baltocteniza & Electrocteniza
- ... that the extinct trapdoor spiders Baltocteniza and Electrocteniza were both identified from specimens in Baltic amber?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Wildlife of Botswana
Good combination of articles and other wikilinks. Length and date check out, I'm assuming good faith on the offline sources. First Light (talk) 03:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Aziz Ahmad
- ... that Aziz Ahmad is considered by many to be the best Buzkashi player in Afghanistan?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Nice. Length, reference to hook and date verified. Ready to go.--Nvvchar. 01:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC) [
- Reviewed Stalin's poetry. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Chris Allison (police officer)
- ... that Metropolitan Police officer Chris Allison was the Gold Commander for police operations in the aftermath of the 7/7 London bombings?
- Reviewed: 10th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- Comment: Rewritten copyvio, moved into mainspace on 13 April (5x expanded from the only non-copyvio text).
5x expanded by January (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
10th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that Representative J. D. Rumberg of the 10th Arizona Territorial Legislature tried to ban all horse racing in the territory but was only able to have it outlawed on his own ranch?
- Reviewed: Louise Bourgeois Boursier ([17])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 16:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- AGF for offline sources. January (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
No sé si es Baires o Madrid
- ... that a live album released in 2009 includes a duet by Fito Páez and Joaquín Sabina, recorded after not speaking to each other for over 10 years?
- ALT1 - Suggest slight change: *mp}}... that a live album released in 2009 includes a duet by Fito Páez and Joaquín Sabina, who had not spoken for more than 10 years?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 16:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 16:27, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go! Parkwells (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Jaespinoza (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Madonna (book). Jaespinoza (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Ruislip-Northwood Urban District
- ... that the Ruislip-Northwood Urban District was formed in 1904 following concerns over the expansion of the Metropolitan Railway and the growth in population of Northwood?
5x expanded by Harrison49 (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Jovan Skerlić
- ... that Jovan Skerlić's (pictured) role in literature and general cultural and political development has resulted in the suggestion that the period in Serbian history should be named after him?
- Reviewed: Messier 103 (diff)
Created by WhiteWriter (talk), 24.57.81.185 (talk). Self nom at 14:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook are verified.Good article. Leidseplein (talk) 04:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Matthew Stockford
- ... that four time Winter Paralympic bronze medallist Matthew Stockford became the manager of Olympic skier Chemmy Alcott?
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 14:30, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed triniscope ([18])
Louise Bourgeois Boursier
- ... that the first woman to write a book on childbirth was Louise Bourgeois Boursier (pictured)?
- Reviewed Alaungpaya (diff) --Doug Coldwell talk 14:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Messier 103
- ... that the star cluster Messier 103 (pictured) can be observed with the use of binoculars?
Expanded from 313 characters of prose to 2012 article of prose. --TitanOne (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Nice one. --WhiteWriter (talk) 14:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
8th Arizona Territorial Legislature, 9th Arizona Territorial Legislature
- ... that despite the previous session permanently fixing the territorial capital in Tucson, the 9th Arizona Territorial Legislature's first act was to move it to Prescott?
- Reviewed: Lardea, Ktenia (fortress) ([19])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length(s), date(s) and hook are fine, AGF for offline references - Basement12 (T.C) 11:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Spill (audio)
Example of drum kit spill into a snare drum microphone
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- ... that although audio spill (example right) is often undesirable in the recording of popular music, it can be heard on records by The Beatles and Christina Aguilera?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Fred Laycock. matt (talk) 11:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Comment: Sound isn't the exact same file as is used in the article, but it is a shortened version for use in DYK. matt (talk) 12:03, 13 April 2011 (UTC)Changed original. matt (talk) 10:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Everything checks out, including tag. Interesting article, but could use some cleanup. See talk. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Orthotonics
- ... that music writer Piero Scaruffi called the 1980s American experimental rock group the Orthotonics, "one of the most surreal and unpredictable combos of the era"?
- ALT1:... that music writer Piero Scaruffi said that the Orthotonics were an important link between 1970s European and 1990s American progressive music?
- Reviewed: Theodoxus fluviatilis ([20])
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 11:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article creation, article length, hook length and hook sourcing all check out. Prefer the first hook over the alt. Wasted Time R (talk) 04:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
J-CATCH
- ... that attack helicopters racked up an impressive 5-to-1 kill ratio over jet fighters during the J-CATCH exercises in the late 1970s?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length good, date good, no substantial content problems, offline source taken in good faith (it's consistent with other bits & pieces that I've seen online). Nice work! bobrayner (talk) 14:08, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Fred Laycock
- ... that while playing for Barrow, footballer Fred Laycock left the pitch to sign for Nelson before completing the match, and was then fined for representing Barrow while contracted to another club?
- Reviewed: The Redmond Spokesman
Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date ok, but article doesn't state that Laycock was fined for representing Barrow while contracted to another club – it just says he was fined. I'm sure that's the reason why, but either the article or the hook should be updated based on the source (which I've taken in good faith as it's an offline reference). matt (talk) 11:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Huntsman Marine Science Centre
- ... that the Huntsman Marine Science Centre's Atlantic Reference Centre in St. Andrews, New Brunswick has the largest collection of Atlantic organisms in Canada?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Glisachaemus
- Date, length, hook are verified. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Center Point, Camp County, Texas
- ... that Center Point, Camp County, Texas was settled in 1865 by freed slaves after the Emancipation Proclamation, and is the birthplace of mezzo-soprano Barbara Smith Conrad?
- Reviewed: Phoenix Tower, Chester
Created by Maile66 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hooked approved. Good to see a decent article on a ghost town rather than the sub stubs we generally have. Can you though add a citation next to the Barbara Smith Conrad just for the sake of the hook? Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not exactly sure what you meant, as there is an inline citation in the article's section about Barbara Smith Conrad, a reference which states where she was born. However, I added that citation also in the lead section where I have stated that's where she was born. Does that take care of what you thought it needed? Maile66 (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Riki Papakura
- ... that rugby league club Warrington paid £20 to sign Riki Papakura from New Zealand in 1911?
Created by User:Mattlore (talk). Self nom at 01:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- I've formatted the nomination to align with DYK practices (insert wikilinks, target article in bold, unlink title, question mark). The article itself is suitably referenced, new and the hook fact can be AGFed. At 1100B of readable prose, it is too short to meet DYK requirements, though. Schwede66 02:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Madonna (book)
- ... that author Andrew Morton's biography, Madonna, had an initial print run of 500,000 copies, but sold only half this number?
Created by Legolas2186 (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed High Refractive Index Polymers — Legolas (talk2me) 10:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ready to go. (BTW, big fan of your work). Jaespinoza (talk) 16:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
CTV Building
- ... that more than 100 people died in the CTV Building (ruins pictured)?
- Reviewed: Disorders of consciousness (diff)
- Comment: This building claimed more than half the fatalities of the 2011 Christchurch earthquake. The nomination uses a cropped photo of one of those used in the article to work better with the 100px homepage limitations.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Perhaps the hook should by more detailed, with link to 2011 Christchurch earthquake. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that more than 100 people died when the CTV Building (ruins pictured) collapsed in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake?
- I have a slight preference for the original hook, as it's shorter, but also more mysterious (as it doesn't give away why the building collapsed). The original hook would work better if published with the image, as that demonstrates that it's a recent as opposed to historic event. Schwede66 22:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK. Hope you right. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 17:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 14
College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering
- ... that SUNY Albany's College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering (pictured) is the first and only educational institution dedicated solely to the research and development of nanotechnology?
Created by Nanotech257 (talk). Nominated by UpstateNYer (talk) at 23:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Charles Elliott Perkins (diff)
- Expansion date was 14 April. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 10:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good and checks out. The use of "educational institution" gave me slight pause, but I can't think of a better way to word it and I don't think it is such a big deal as to preclude it from approval. PhantomPlugger (talk) 21:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Tomb of Akhethetep and Christine Ziegler
- ... that Christiane Ziegler excavated the Tomb of Akhethetep (pictured) from 1991-1999?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- It is good, but in Tomb of Akhethetep, in section Description first paragraph is unreferenced. You should give also link to the article you reviewed. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 01:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Purgatory Correctional Facility
- ... that the Mormon bigamist Warren Jeffs spent a year in a prison called Purgatory?
Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Opsismodysplasia
Dave Liddell
- ... that baseball catcher Dave Liddell got a hit in his only Major League at bat, on the only Major League pitch he faced?
- Reviewed: Steven Hallard, Richard Priestman
Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is awkward and needs revising. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that catcher Dave Liddell faced only one pitch in his Major League career, and got a hit?
Length, date, and hook check out - I'm assuming good faith on the "only one pitch" aspect since it's an offline source. Either hook looks fine to me. First Light (talk) 03:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Casa de Mi Padre
- ... that Will Ferrell (pictured) produced and stars in the upcoming Spanish-language comedy film, Casa de Mi Padre, which has been described to be in the style of an overly dramatic telenovela?
- Reviewed: Mancusi v. DeForte
- Comment: Article was developed in userspace but was moved into the mainspace on April 14.
Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 13:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Steven Hallard, Richard Priestman
- ... that Steven Hallard and Richard Priestman were part of a team that won Great Britain's first Olympic archery medal for 80 years?
- Reviewed: Joseph Bloomfield Leake ([21])
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Organocerium chemistry
- ... that organocerium compounds can serve as an "environmentally friendly alternative" to other organometallic reagents?
- Comment: This is my 5th DYK, will review an article after this one.
Created by Mdlevin (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to goThelmadatter (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
List of sources about claims that Vojsava Kastrioti was Slav
- ... that List of sources about claims that Vojsava Kastrioti was Slav contains overview of sources about claims that Skanderbeg's mother was Slav?
- Reviewed: Winchuck River ([diff])
Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article is at AfD. Schwede66 01:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I was not notified about AfD according to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Notifying_interested_people. I propose this nomination to wait until decision about AfD is made. I will follow the process and present the information about decision here.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Even if the article is kept, which looks unlikely, there's no content here to make a DYK from. Your proposed hook is a statement about the article, not about the subject - it would be like, instead of saying "most of the remaining redwoods in Oregon are in the Winchuck River watershed," saying "Winchuck River contains a geobox river template." Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I plan to expand the article to contain more than 1.500 characters of prose. It was my mistake to nominate it without doing it first, but I did not know that "The listed items themselves are not counted as part of the 1,500 DYK qualifying characters." Would it be better to renominate this article when I do it, if it survives AfD, or to place this nomination "on hold" until then?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Antidiskriminator – there's a handy tool called DYKcheck which will automatically check an article's eligibility for DYK (it adds a link into the sidebar under "toolbox"). You can use this while still writing an article (in preview mode) and it'll tell you all about the prose size, etc. matt (talk) 13:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- I plan to expand the article to contain more than 1.500 characters of prose. It was my mistake to nominate it without doing it first, but I did not know that "The listed items themselves are not counted as part of the 1,500 DYK qualifying characters." Would it be better to renominate this article when I do it, if it survives AfD, or to place this nomination "on hold" until then?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Winchuck River
- ... that most of the remaining redwoods in Oregon are in the Winchuck River watershed?
Created by Finetooth (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, size and reference OK. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Neil Stevens
- ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008?
- Reviewed: Edward J. Burke ([22])
Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, size, reference all OK. You could perhaps include the lacrosse award as well, as per ALT1 below, or would that be too long-winded? Struway2 (talk) 09:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008, and was inducted to the National Lacrosse League Hall of Fame in the same year?
- The only problem I see with that is that I'm not 100% sure what his induction status is with the NLL Hall of Fame. Their website shows him under "Media Recognition", and not with the yearly classes.[23] Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that sportswriter Neil Stevens was presented with the Hockey Hall of Fame's Elmer Ferguson Memorial Award in 2008, and was inducted to the National Lacrosse League Hall of Fame in the same year?
Arroyo Seco, Querétaro
- ... that Arroyo Seco, Querétaro, Mexico is home to the Sótano del Barro, a pit cave which is one of the largest cavities of the world by volume?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Celts in Transylvania Thelmadatter (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion and date check out, but only source for claim in hook is in Spanish. Is there no English language source for such an amazing fact? -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Messier 91
... that Messier 91 (pictured) was a missing object in Messier's catalogue until William C. Williams rediscovered it in 1969?
Expanded 5X; from 310 characters of prose to 1955 characters of prose --TitanOne (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- date, expansion verified, DYK hook verified. Image license of File:Messier91.jpg verified.
- DYK hook seems to be boring for non-specialist. Many people do not know that Messier have lived in 18th century. I think, that William C. Williams does need to be mentioned in the hook. How about much more simple hook?
- ALT1:
... that the 63 million light-years away galaxy Messier 91 was discovered in the 18th century and rediscovered 188 years later?
--Snek01 (talk) 22:14, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that ALT1 is much more interesting, and I've struck out the original hook for clarity. Tweaked ALT1 for grammar and added wikilinks. TitanOne, given that you appear to be working on a few of these articles, when they meet DYK requirements, they are automatically no longer stubs. Can you thus please remove the stub tags and reassess them as start class (or at least, remove the stub class there, too, and leave it unassessed for somebody else to deal with it) as part of the nomination process? Schwede66 22:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Williams in 1969 only reassigned the discovery date from 1784 to 1781 and discoverer name from Herschel to Messier - I don't think he qualifies as a "rediscoverer" (Herschel does). Perhaps we need another hook. Maybe something quirky about the "bookkeeping" mistake, but at the moment it is poorly sourced and I'm not sure it was actually "bookkeeping" problem. Materialscientist (talk) 05:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- To avoid words "rediscover" and exact interval of time, I have tried to formulate ALT2:
- Williams in 1969 only reassigned the discovery date from 1784 to 1781 and discoverer name from Herschel to Messier - I don't think he qualifies as a "rediscoverer" (Herschel does). Perhaps we need another hook. Maybe something quirky about the "bookkeeping" mistake, but at the moment it is poorly sourced and I'm not sure it was actually "bookkeeping" problem. Materialscientist (talk) 05:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that ALT1 is much more interesting, and I've struck out the original hook for clarity. Tweaked ALT1 for grammar and added wikilinks. TitanOne, given that you appear to be working on a few of these articles, when they meet DYK requirements, they are automatically no longer stubs. Can you thus please remove the stub tags and reassess them as start class (or at least, remove the stub class there, too, and leave it unassessed for somebody else to deal with it) as part of the nomination process? Schwede66 22:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the 63 million light-years away galaxy Messier 91 was discovered in the 18th century, but it was added to Messier's catalogue two centuries later?
--Snek01 (talk) 08:38, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- thanks for the clarification guys. I actually like Snek01's alt. --TitanOne (talk) 13:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
problems are: (i) long adjective which most people won't grasp (is 63 million ly much or not?) (ii) many people won't know when Messier catalogue was compiled. I would suggest
ALT3: ... that although Charles Messier discovered the galaxy M91 in 1781, it was added to his catalogue only two centuries later? Materialscientist (talk) 00:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT3 has shortest (the best) hook and very good wording. Thanks for suggestion. --Snek01 (talk) 21:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Jack the Giant Killer (2012 film)
- ... that the upcoming 2012 film, Jack the Giant Killer directed by Bryan Singer is expected to take an adult look at the Jack and the Beanstalk legend?
- Reviewed: Livens Large Gallery Flame Projectors
- Comment: Article was developed in the article incubator but was moved into the mainspace on April 14.
Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Sectoral representation in the House of Representatives of the Philippines
- ... that former presidential son Mikey Arroyo (pictured) currently sits as a sectoral representative of tricycle drivers and security guards in the House of Representatives of the Philippines?
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Clara Clarita. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- On tricycles, I looked there and I can't find a good enough name for the vehicle as it is used in the Philippines. Sidecar might be a good link. We can ditch that and say he represents security guards. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Clara Clarita
- ... that Sir Winston Churchill's American grandfather paid $125,000 for a new luxury steam yacht, Clara Clarita (pictured), that could only manage a speed of ½ mph (0.8 km/h)?
- Reviewed: Wharton Reef Light
Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 12:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I can't easily find the fact that it managed a speed of 1/2 mph. I found one stating it ran at 12 mph. I did see "we made one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half." but this should've been more explicit.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- "One mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" is precisely 1/2 mph. But if you want confirmation, you only have to look at the next reference in line, following the sentence Jerome's account was corroborated by two further letters to the Times, from E. Riggs and Clara Clarita's commander, Captain Alex Smith, which states that the yacht "went at the extraordinary rate of about half a knot", here. Gatoclass (talk) 12:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but like I said it should've more explicit, like "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half (1/2 mph)". I reckon most people are not into boat speeds and may not realize that knot is about as equal as 1 mph, nor do they have to mentally compute 0.525 mi/2.5 hrs=1/5 mph. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the "half a knot" comment is not included in the article - I used the 1/2 mile per hour statement precisely because far more people know what mph means than knot. In relation to your comment however, I think "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" ought to be perfectly accessible to anyone with even the most rudimentary grasp of arithmetic. Gatoclass (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'll let others have their take on this. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 13:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the "half a knot" comment is not included in the article - I used the 1/2 mile per hour statement precisely because far more people know what mph means than knot. In relation to your comment however, I think "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half" ought to be perfectly accessible to anyone with even the most rudimentary grasp of arithmetic. Gatoclass (talk) 13:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but like I said it should've more explicit, like "one mile and a quarter in just two hours and a half (1/2 mph)". I reckon most people are not into boat speeds and may not realize that knot is about as equal as 1 mph, nor do they have to mentally compute 0.525 mi/2.5 hrs=1/5 mph. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 12:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think this hook is deliberately misleading. The article clearly states that it reached a speed of 12 mph; nowhere does it say that the boat had a maximum speed of 0.5 as the hook implies. BigDom (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- The yacht reached a speed of 12 mph after its original engine was replaced. The original engine could only manage a speed of 1/2 mph, when the yacht was new. That is a simple, verifiable statement of fact. Gatoclass (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- No it's not a fact, or at least the article doesn't say that it is. The fact that the boat travelled 1.25 miles in 2.5 hours does not mean, in any way, that it reached a maximum speed of 0.5 mph, it means that its average speed was 0.5 mph on that particular voyage. Indeed, it is more than likely that higher speeds were reached that day. There is no evidence that the boat could only manage 0.5 mph. BigDom (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- That would have to be about the most pedantic point I have ever encountered on this page. You think the hook is misleading because you can hypothesize that maybe the boat went a fraction faster at some point in its 2 1/2 hour voyage? Please be reasonable. The point is that the engine was a piece of useless junk, if it managed to go at 0.6 mph at some point in its voyage and 0.4 at another, that is hardly a reason to challenge the hook as "misleading". Gatoclass (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Most of this discussion could be rendered moot if anyone had considered writing an alt hook, so how about:
- ALT1:... that Sir Winston Churchill's American grandfather paid $125,000 for a new luxury steam yacht, Clara Clarita (pictured), that managed only an average speed of ½ mph (0.8 km/h)? OCNative (talk) 00:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I considered that, but I think it weakens the hook unnecessarily. I don't see any point in quibbling about "average" and "maximum" speeds for a boat that could only manage 1/2 mph. What sort of "maximum" speed worthy of the name would such a boat be capable of? Certainly none of the sources bothered to record one, and the second source states clearly that the boat ""went at the extraordinary rate of about half a knot"[25] - what else needs to be said? Gatoclass (talk) 04:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- That would have to be about the most pedantic point I have ever encountered on this page. You think the hook is misleading because you can hypothesize that maybe the boat went a fraction faster at some point in its 2 1/2 hour voyage? Please be reasonable. The point is that the engine was a piece of useless junk, if it managed to go at 0.6 mph at some point in its voyage and 0.4 at another, that is hardly a reason to challenge the hook as "misleading". Gatoclass (talk) 18:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- No it's not a fact, or at least the article doesn't say that it is. The fact that the boat travelled 1.25 miles in 2.5 hours does not mean, in any way, that it reached a maximum speed of 0.5 mph, it means that its average speed was 0.5 mph on that particular voyage. Indeed, it is more than likely that higher speeds were reached that day. There is no evidence that the boat could only manage 0.5 mph. BigDom (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- The yacht reached a speed of 12 mph after its original engine was replaced. The original engine could only manage a speed of 1/2 mph, when the yacht was new. That is a simple, verifiable statement of fact. Gatoclass (talk) 16:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think this hook is deliberately misleading. The article clearly states that it reached a speed of 12 mph; nowhere does it say that the boat had a maximum speed of 0.5 as the hook implies. BigDom (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Wharton Reef Light
- ... that Wharton Reef Light, now on display at the Townsville Maritime Museum, Queensland, is the only survivor of a series of twenty automatic lighthouses installed from 1913 to the early 1920s?
- Reviewed: Monastery of the Virgins ([26])
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- The source only states that it was the last such light in operation, not that it is the last surviving example of its type. Gatoclass (talk) 11:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know on my user talk page that there is a problem</sarcasm>. This source states very clearly "It is the only survivor of a series of 20 acetylene-burning automatic lights...", and indeed it should have been cited inline. I added it now. --Muhandes (talk) 18:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Monastery of the Virgins
- ... that archaeologists believe they have uncovered the Monastery of the Virgins described in a 6th-century account of Byzantine Jerusalem?
- Reviewed: Hodgen's Cemetery Mound
Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hodgen's Cemetery Mound
- ... that cranial deformation of a skull enabled archaeologists to identify the Adena as the builders of the Hodgen's Cemetery Mound (pictured) in Tiltonsville, Ohio?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Felipe González González. Nyttend (talk) 03:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, photo and hook (AGF) verified, ready to go. Poliocretes (talk) 09:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Have a thought: what about an alt "... that a cranially deformed skull shows that the Adena built the Hodgen's Cemetery Mound (pictured) in Tiltonsville, Ohio"? Nyttend (talk) 20:47, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Um, "cranially deformed skull" translates as cranially deformed cranium! The original version is best, providing it begins with "... that an artificially deformed skull enabled archaeologists" (etc etc etc)........... Moriori (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, you're right. I'm looking for some way to reduce the length of the other one; what if you replace "cranially" with "artificially" in my alt hook? Nyttend (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see an alt, so I am not entirely sure what I am commenting on here. I suggest '... that an artificially deformed skull enabled archaeologists to identify the Adena as the builders of the Hodgen's Cemetery Mound (pictured) in Tiltonsville, Ohio?' Moriori (talk) 01:53, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- I really don't think we need to mention the archaeologists. The alt is in the line beginning with "Have a thought". If you disagree, I suppose we can always go with the original hook, but I fear that it's rather long. Nyttend (talk) 10:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hold the bus, the hook is misleading anyway. The Hodgen's Cemetery Mound article it is based on says "erosion of the hillside revealed human bones, including a skull with evidence of artificial cranial deformation......the bones allowed archaeologists to determine that the hill was a burial mound built by the Adena." It specifies the bones, not just the skull as the hook says. We should retire this proposal. Moriori (talk) 22:15, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
HMS Polyanthus (K47)
HMS Polyanthus
- ... that during convoy escort duty in the Battle of the North Atlantic in 1943, HMS Polyanthus (pictured) was sunk by U-952 using new weapons technology?
Created by Leidseplein (talk). Self nom at 04:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- With "pictured" and other necessary bits, the hook is over 200 characters. Could you chop something? Nyttend (talk) 04:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- now shorter. Leidseplein (talk) 04:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Jovan Skerlić.Leidseplein (talk) 04:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Gendang beleq
- ... that Gendang beleq (pictured), a music and dance performance popular in Lombok, Indonesia, is so named because it uses two big drums?
created by Awewe (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC+8)
Excellent work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Honey Bee (Blake Shelton song)
- ... that Rhett Akins was inspired to write Blake Shelton's song "Honey Bee" after reading an article on Mike Huckabee?
Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Amate. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Hummel figurines
- ... that the world’s largest collection of Hummel figurines opened this year in the Donald E. Stephens Museum of Hummels in Rosemont, Illinois?
5x expanded by PhantomPlugger (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on April 15
Maryland Route 194
- ... that the Woodsboro and Frederick Turnpike, which is now part of Maryland Route 194, was the last private toll road in Maryland when it was purchased by the state in 1921?
- Reviewed: The Wandering Madman ([27])
5x expanded by Viridiscalculus (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Thomas Lawlor (bass-baritone)
- ... that after eight years with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, Thomas Lawlor went on to a wider opera career in which he sang more than 60 roles?
- Reviewed: Filep Karma ([28])
- Comment: The David Stone reference supports all aspects of the hook.
Created by Ssilvers (talk) and User:GuillaumeTell (talk). Nominated by Pgallert (talk) at 08:33, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds excellent! To make the fact more impressive - I remember Kurt Equiluz with 69 roles - I suggest to replace "wider opera career" by the term "grand opera" used in the source (or give an example such as Covent Garden), also mention the voice part, to make known he his a singer, + I prefer "perform" for opera singers ("sing" for concert):
- ALT1: ... that after eight years with the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company, bass-baritone Thomas Lawlor went on to a "grand opera" career in which he performed more than 60 roles? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Julie Price (bassoonist)
- ... that in the concert The Proud Bassoon at Wigmore Hall, Julie Price celebrated William Waterhouse, playing from Gordon Jacob’s Suite which the composer had dedicated to him?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #2011 Pulitzer Prize
Joseph McCulloch
- ... that, in 1918, Joseph McCulloch coached star American football players from multiple schools, including 1917 All-American Archie Weston (pictured)?
5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cmadler (talk) at 13:59, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Morića Han
- ... that Morića Han is the only surviving han in Sarajevo?
- Reviewed: Vittorio Arrigoni ([29])
Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 13:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Disambiguated "han" in the hook and the article to point to Caravanserai, which according to the "Etymology" section, is the same as a "han" (assuming that I picked the correct meaning). cmadler (talk) 14:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
-
- Thank you for noticing disambiguated han. There are sources that claim that caravanserays and hans were different things, at least in the Balkans. The Caravanserays were much bigger and supposedly often had charity like function (providing free accommodation for travellers and poor people) while hans were always part of profit driven business. But I did not (yet) find sources on English that would support that interpretation. Therefore I can say that you did pick the correct meaning, for now. I performed a quick copy-edit in the scale that I could (considering the limited knowledge of English). If that is not enough, please someone help with "a quick copy-edit for grammar".--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Vittorio Arrigoni
- ... that pro-Palestinian peace activist Vittorio Arrigoni was hanged in Gaza by an alleged Palestinian terror group?
- Reviewed: have less than 5 DYK
Created by Ittakezou0 (talk). Nominated by ברוקולי (talk) at 20:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- This article was not created by Ittakezou0 but by User:Jalapenos do exist. If I am not wrong, it does not affect the review of the hook? Date is ok, size ok. The source does not mention that "alleged Palestinian terror group" hanged Arrigoni. The source say that he was found hanged and nothing about who did it. Term alleged is violation of WP:Peacock, WP:ALLEGED.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- was changed by administrator Gatoclass He probably knows what he was doing. If he did not complain about the hook, it is also probably OK, but here's an alternative hook:
- Alt1 ... that pro-Palestinian peace activist Vittorio Arrigoni was hanged by suspected members of a Salafist militant group operating in Gaza known as Jahafil Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad fi Filastin.
- The text of the article does not contain referenced claim that Vittorio was hanged by suspected members of a Salafist militant group. If I am wrong please provide quote from the text together with quote from the referenced source. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1 ... that pro-Palestinian peace activist Vittorio Arrigoni was hanged by suspected members of a Salafist militant group operating in Gaza known as Jahafil Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad fi Filastin.
- It is generally suspected that Salafi radicals kidnapped and killed Arrigoni[30]. Actually, if you go through almost every source used in the article you will find that all say Salafist or Islamic radicals killed him. However, the Salafist groups in Gaza deny it and some have condemned it and an investigation has just been started so there's nothing concrete yet. I think we need a new hook altogether. I suggest the following:
- Alt2 ... that one of the few journalists present in the Gaza Strip during the 2008-09 War was Vittorio Arrigoni who compiled a book of his experiences during that time? --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:01, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alt2 is not good. The man became notable only because of his murder. Alt2 says nothing about the murder. This section has lots of confirmation and sourcing to the man captors.
- Alt3 ... that pro-Palestinian peace activist Vittorio Arrigoni was kidnapped by suspected members of a Palestinian militant group operating in Gaza and later found hanged? --Broccolo (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- "pro-Palestinian" is a piped link to the disambiguation page Palestinian. I think this should probably point to Palestinian refugee (which maybe should be renamed to the plural). cmadler (talk) 19:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Lagmann mac Gofraid
- ... that Lagmann mac Gofraid, a late 11th century King of Mann and the Isles, has been labelled as the only known Scot who took part in the First Crusade?
5x expanded by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 06:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Comesperma sphaerocarpum, Comesperma
- ... that the genus Comesperma contains such plants as the Broom Milkwort (pictured), pink matchheads and love creeper?
Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Self nom at 10:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Luoji Township Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- The references checkout great, the hook is good, and Comesperma and Comesperma sphaerocarpum are over 1500 characters. --Kevmin § 16:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Betrayal (1929 film)
- ... that the 1929 drama film Betrayal was the last silent film directed by Lewis Milestone and the last silent film performed by Gary Cooper?
- Reviewed #No Me Queda Mas (music video) [31] Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.
Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 06:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Nice job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
International reaction to the demolition of the Babri mosque
- ... that the offices of Air India were attacked as part of the violent reaction to the Babri mosque demolition in Pakistan and Bangladesh?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 06:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Orphans' Decree
- ... that a forced conversion of orphaned non-Muslim children to Islam under Orphans' Decree in Yemen has no "parallel in other countries"?
- Reviewed: ...And the Native Hipsters ([32])
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Abutilon pitcairnense
- ... that Abutilon pitcairnense was considered extinct for 20 years until a single plant was rediscovered in 2003, which died in a landslide in 2005, but that other plants were propagated from it before it died?
Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT (1st hook is slightly long, so here's a shorter one): ... that Abutilon pitcairnense is extinct in the wild after the single wild plant died in a landslide in 2005?
- Reviewed: Baltocteniza, Electrocteniza, and final review/ok on Dave Liddell
- Very interesting, references check out, I suggest going with the ALT1 hook.--Kevmin § 16:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
SS Ranpura
- ... that the ocean liner SS Ranpura ran aground near Gibraltar on 15 April 1936 while carrying $50 million (1936 dollars) of rare Chinese art?
Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Lynn Borden
- ... that after her role in the 1972 horror film Frogs, actress Lynn Borden began collecting frog figurines as a hobby?
- ALT
... that actress Lynn Borden, who appeared in the final season of the Shirley Booth sitcom Hazel, was the 1957 Miss Arizona?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Dave Liddell : Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Amate
- ... that despite being banned by Spanish colonial authorities in Mexico the making of amate or bark paper never disappeared?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed organocerium compoundsThelmadatter (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 21:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
1st Airlanding Brigade (United Kingdom)
- ... that around 252 glider infantry of the 1st Airlanding Brigade were drowned during the Allied invasion of Sicily?
X 5 expansion and self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Douglas 2229 below
- Ready to go. A very interesting article. Harrison49 (talk) 16:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Douglas 2229
... that when the Douglas 2229 supersonic transport suggested fuel had to be held in the fuselage, a designer sketched a solution with the passengers wearing diving suits, under large signs saying "No Smoking"?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook, at 206 characters, is a little too long, and, more importantly, isn't too clear. It makes me picture the airplane sitting around making suggestions. ALT1 is 198 characters:
- ALT1: ... that after plans for the Douglas 2229 SST left no room for fuel other than in the fuselage, a designer sketched a cartoon with diving suit-clad passengers immersed in fuel, under "No Smoking" signs? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Love it! Edit "had" to "left"? Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Done. (I actually had it that way originally as I was attempting to construct the hook, then changed it to save one character, before making other changes which ultimately brought it under 200, then forgot to change that back when there was room.) And I've struck the original hook. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Love it! Edit "had" to "left"? Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
...And the Native Hipsters
- ... that even though ...And the Native Hipsters's first single, "There Goes Concorde Again" was initially a 500-copy private release, it went on to reach number five on the UK Indie Charts?
- Reviewed: Foresight Nanotech Institute Feynman Prize ([33])
Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
1893–94 Small Heath F.C. season
- ... that Small Heath F.C. went through the 1893–94 season without drawing a League match?
- ALT1:... that in 1893–94, Small Heath F.C. became the first team to score more than 100 goals in a Football League season?
- Reviewed: Neil Stevens ([34])
- Comment: Moved from userspace on 15 April. Both hooks are stated and ref'd in the second para of the Summary and aftermath section
Created by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 11:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go.
for alt-1 only, which I happen to think is much more interesting anyway.I think alt-1 is the better hook.Although the reference states that there were no draws, there are several in the tables. If the "draws" hook is used, it should be re-worded to note that "without drawing a match" came during regular divisional play and not across all competitions (this isn't readily apparent to non-soccer/football-oriented readers).Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 17:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go.
National Schools of Art, Havana
... that Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, while enjoying a post-revolutionary round of golf at the recently-abandoned Havana country club in 1961, conceptualized a new national art school (school of ballet pictured) to be built right on the course where they were teeing off?
Created by DuendeThumb (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
* Way more than a 5× expansion, offline source accepted in good faith. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:49, 15 April 2011 (UTC)- At 240 characters or 258 with the annotated "pictured", the hook is over the limit of 200. Also, it's unclear to me whether the hook facts are exactly represented in the article, but there is definitely not an inline citation immediately following the hook facts as required by the rules. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I struck the original hook, and TenPoundHammer's comments were self-stuck. I've suggested a 199-character ALT. Other suggestions, of course, are welcome.
- ALT1: ... that Havana's National Schools of Art (school of ballet pictured), conceived by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, are considered to be outstanding architectural achievements of the Cuban Revolution? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1 sounds like a good hook to me. It deals more directly with the article's content, though the original (too-long) hook was in fact directly cited in the article (p. 21, Loomis' Revolution of Forms). That said, ALT1 is good User:DuendeThumb —Preceding undated comment added 04:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC).
- suggest are considered to be among the most outstanding architectural achievements => are considered to be outstanding architectural achievements "among the most" doesnt add v much at all Victuallers (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
2011 Cirebon bombing
- ... that most of the victims of 2011 Cirebon bombing were police officers attending Friday prayer?
created by Awewe (talk).
Please proof read as I am NOT a native English sepeaker Self nom at 20:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC+8)
- I did some editing. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Andy Hansen
- ... that baseball pitcher Andy Hansen (pictured) earned his first major league victory against the Philadelphia Phillies, the only other major league team for which he would ever play?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 17:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that after signing with the New York Giants baseball team after leaving his high school, pitcher Andy Hansen (pictured) compiled a "sensational" 12–3 record for Bristol at age 18?
- ALT2: ... that Andy Hansen's (pictured) elbow swelled "as big as a football" after a 1950 pitching injury?
- I reviewed 1893–94 Small Heath F.C. season. Also note the merged edit history; this draft has been in my userspace a long time and was recently moved to mainspace over a stub which had been created during the course of my work. — KV5 • Talk • 17:58, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sourcing checks out. I'm reviewing because I made the semi-complicated move from user sandbox, can absolutely confirm this is all fresh/live text. Went from this to this. Staxringold talkcontribs 19:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Two-mass-skate bicycle
- ... that a two-mass-skate bicycle has demonstrated self-stability even though it has minimal gyroscopic effects and does not have positive trail, two features most commonly associated with bike stability?
Created by AndrewDressel (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article dates, lengths, and sourcing all look good and hook length is exactly at the limit of 200 characters. There is however no evidence the required review of another person's submission has been performed. --Allen3 talk 20:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, a new criteria, as of Feb 1, it seems. Okay then.
- Reviewed #Betrayal (1929 film). Made these edits. Could not find last claim of hook in cited sources, and said so on aricle's talk page. Came back here and found that someone else had already deleted the claim and given it a green light. -AndrewDressel (talk) 22:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Charles Austin Tweed, but another editor gave it the green light before I could finish. Added year to the hook anyway. Man, this is like playing musical chairs. -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Braeburn Range, made these edits, and pointed out that neither the article itself nor the provided reference support the claim made in the hook. Posted this message on nominators talk page. -AndrewDressel (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Caldera Bay
- ... that the Sinking of the Blanco Encalada was the first successful attack on a ship by a torpedo boat?
- Reviewed: SS Ranpura
Created by Buggie111 (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
No Me Queda Mas (music video)
- ... that the music video for "No me queda más" was shot in San Antonio's Amtrakrailroad station?
Created by AJona1992 (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- The hook is cited only to another Wikipedia article,[35] which itself is cited only to Amazon. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Golondrina point
- ... that Golondrina points are so named because their usual flaring basal “ears” resemble a swallow's (golondrina in Spanish) split tail?
Created by France3470 (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Joppenbergh Mountain
Jacqueline Berger
- ... that poet Jacqueline Berger compares the writing process to dreaming?
- Comment: Moved from user space at 03:07, 15 April.
Created by Viriditas (talk). Self nom at 03:07, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 16
Amer Fort
- ...that the annual tourist visitation to the Amber Palace of Amer Fort (pictured) in Rajasthan was reported by the Superintendent of Department of Archaeology and Museums as 1.4 million visitors during 2007?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 01:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Henry Conybeare.--Nvvchar. 02:35, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
1980 Scottish Cup Final
- ... that a riot after the 1980 Scottish Cup Final between Celtic F.C. and Rangers F.C. resulted in a ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages at sporting events in Scotland?
Created by Jmorrison230582 (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Theâtre de l'Étoile du Nord
- ... that Theâtre de l'Étoile du Nord (Pictured) has been described as "the most boho Tunis is likely to get"?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 16:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 07:32, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Avenue Habib Bourguiba
- ... that Avenue Habib Bourguiba (pictured) is the principal thoroughfare of Tunis?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed George B. Jackson
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- I hope an img I have added would be in order. --Nvvchar. 17:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Csóványos
- ... that the dense forest in the area around Csóványos in Northern Hungary has been described as "almost mystical"?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed :Mike Loan♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good to me, just changed "mystic" to "mystical", as the source says, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Mitchell Ayres
- ... that Perry Como's musical conductor, Mitchell Ayres, first worked with the singer on a demo recording of The Chesterfield Supper Club in 1944, but did not join the program until 1948, when he was offered the job during a golf game?
Created by User:We hope (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Iosif Begun [36]
- length and referencing fine, created 17 not 16 (no problem), but please suggest a less complex hook, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Perry Como's musical conductor, Mitchell Ayres, was offered his long-time job with the singer during a golf game? (shortened)-We hope (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- good to go, we hope, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Liberty Cinema
- ... that Liberty Cinema in Mumbai got its name as it was built in 1947, the year of Indian Independence?
Created by Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 05:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: James Parfitt [37] Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
HMS Diamond (H22)
- ... that the British destroyers HMS Diamond and HMS Wryneck were sunk by German aircraft on 27 April 1941 about four hours after they rescued over 500 troops from a sinking Dutch troopship?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Commelina cyanea--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion is verified, hook accepted by AGF. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Commelina cyanea
- ... that the Australian creeping plant Commelina cyanea (pictured) is known as scurvy weed as early settlers ate it to ward off scurvy?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:02, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
United States Trust Company theft
- ... that the 1934 United States Trust Company theft was the work of an international gang that stole more than $2 million in multiple robberies?
Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
James Parfitt
- ... that James Parfitt's best bowling in first-class cricket came in his second match, when he claimed seven wickets in the first innings, all bowled?
- Reviewed: Sally Bowles
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Around The Globeसत्यमेव जयते 05:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Percy Saint
- ... that Louisiana Attorney General Percy Saint in 1929 ruled that impeachment proceedings against Governor Huey Pierce Long, Jr., were constitutional?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length, date, hook's ref verified. Just talk page WikiProjects are needed... --WhiteWriter speaks 22:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed 2011 Cirebon bombing
Sally Bowles
- ... that Christopher Isherwood named the character Sally Bowles in his novel Goodbye to Berlin after Paul Bowles because he found Bowles attractive?
5x expanded by Harley Hudson (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Charles Austin Tweed
- ... that a proposal by Republican Charles Austin Tweed allowing California to hire women at the same rate of pay offered to men was defeated by the California State Senate?
- Reviewed: Two-mass-skate bicycle ([38])
Created by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Information and article length checks out. I changed your hook slightly to bring California further up. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- A year would be good. I've added one to the hook. -AndrewDressel (talk) 23:03, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Addition of year reverted. As Victuallers once said, "Hooks are like exotic underwear, they shouldn't show everything." The hook was intentionally written to play off of certain widely held assumptions based upon current political dialogs. Adding too much information, like the fact the event occurred in 1870, destroys those assumptions and significantly weakens the hook. --Allen3 talk 01:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Alexander (son of Ivan Shishman)
- ... that Alexander, the eldest son of Bulgarian tsar Ivan Shishman, converted to Islam to avoid execution and died as governor of Ottoman Smyrna?
- Reviewed: Timothy E. Gregory
Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 16:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Jaigarh Fort
- ... that a three month search carried out for treasures by an Army unit at Jaigarh Fort (pictured) in Rajasthan, did not find any treasures?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT Hook… that Jaigarh Fort in Rajasthan which was a center of artillery production has the world's largest cannon on wheels, the Jaivana (pictured) on display?
- I copy edited the grammar slightly on the first hook. Harley Hudson (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- An interesting article. I Prefer ALT Hook, but why did you attributed this canon to the medieval period? It was manufactured between 1699-1743 - two centuries after mediaeval period. Please explain me. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your observations. The plaque at the site and other book references attribute it as "Medieval period". However, you are right and I have therefore now deleted the two words now.--Nvvchar. 05:57, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Both hooks are good. I prefer ALT1. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 07:09, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Timothy E. Gregory
- ... that Byzantine historian Timothy E. Gregory served as director of the Ohio State University excavations at Isthmia?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Betrayal (1929 film)♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Luoji Township
- ... that in Luoji Township in Yunnan, there are laws against the picking of young matsutake mushrooms smaller than 6cm in diameter?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC) Reviewed Amate♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- - I would tweak the hook to state "matsutake mushrooms" in it (as the rules are specific about this fungus)
Sure, although the source which refers to the mushrooms laws doesn't mention Matsutake, just mushroom. I didn't want anybody questioning that..♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes it does. Look in the first sentence "To a matsutake harvester..." and also the discussion under the five laws. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:33, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
matsutake it is then!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Titan Cup
- ... that despite having won all its round robin matches, South Africa lost to India in the final of the Titan Cup?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 10:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- . Length, hook reference and date verified. good to go.--Nvvchar. 16:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Opsismodysplasia
- ... that the bone disease opsismodysplasia was named from the Greek word opsismos meaning "late"?
Created by Rcej (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Ernst Cadman Colwell. Rcej (Robert) - talk 09:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- OK. Published source accepted in good faith. Verne Equinox (talk) 16:34, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
Semper Fidelis (march)
- ... that John Philip Sousa's "Semper Fidelis" (file attached) is considered to be the official march of the United States Marine Corps?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Fort Center--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:53, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT:... that "Semper Fidelis" (file attached) by John Philip Sousa is regarded as the official march of the United States Marine Corps? Proposed by Moriori (talk) 06:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Braeburn Range
- ... that in New Zealand's Braeburn Range a small population of large carnivorous snails Powelliphanta "Nelson Lakes" is only found above the bush line?
Created by Dramatic (talk). Self nom at 09:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Anthony Sadowski
- Made these changes. Age and size are good. The article, however, does not state that these snails are found only above the bush line, and the provided source states that they are found just below, just above, and at the bush line. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- If you re-read the reference, it initially says the "just below, just above and at", but in reference to all three populations (the other two are 10-20 km away). It then says that they have only been found above the bushline on Mount Murchison. Also, I have reverted your change to the reference title: It's a single white paper (distributed online in three parts for size reasons) with a single purpose, and the document title should be used rather than a single chapter heading. dramatic (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- When I first looked at the reference, it looked like this, so I did my best to fix it. I'm glad you were able to make it even better. If the snails are only above the bush line on Mount Murchison, then I think the hook should say so. Also, the article does not state that the snails are only found above the bush line. Instead, it states that the area above the bush line on Mount Murchison is one of three isolated habitats. -AndrewDressel (talk) 20:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- If you re-read the reference, it initially says the "just below, just above and at", but in reference to all three populations (the other two are 10-20 km away). It then says that they have only been found above the bushline on Mount Murchison. Also, I have reverted your change to the reference title: It's a single white paper (distributed online in three parts for size reasons) with a single purpose, and the document title should be used rather than a single chapter heading. dramatic (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Jeremy Kerley
- ... that Jeremy Kerley was recruited by Texas and Stanford to play baseball, and by Oklahoma to play college football, but ultimately decided to play football for Texas Christian University?
- Reviewed: You Debt Your Life ([39])
Created by Eagles247 (talk). Self nom at 00:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Taxation in the Ottoman empire, Emin (Ottoman official), Tekalif-i orfiye, Resm-i çift, Rav akçesi, Nüzül, Ispence, Avariz, ...
- ... that Tekalif-i orfiye, Resm-i çift, Rav akçesi, Nüzül, İspençe, Avariz, Adet-i ağnam, Resm-i arusane, Tuz resmi, Resm-i bennâk, Bedl-i askeri, Gümrük resmi, Sursat, Müskirat resmi, Temettu, Adet-i deştbani, Damga resmi, Resm-i mücerred, Öşür, and Tapu resmi were Ottoman taxes, whilst Muafiyet were exemptions, and Emins were tax-collectors?
- Reviewed: J-CATCH
- Comment: Eight initial articles created 16-17 April, based on userspace drafts. Expanded since then, and various new articles written from scratch. I wrote a few more related stubs but don't have time to expand them all (busy at work). The articles mostly rely on books and journals which are behind paywalls, but as a courtesy to whoever is unlucky enough to review all these, I'm trying to add freely-available online sources (at least a Google Books snippet) which confirm the most basic fact in the hook. A reviewer with a good online library subscription might find verification easier.
Created by Bobrayner (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 17
Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus
- ... that the Holy Ghost ipomopsis found in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in New Mexico is predicted to become extinct in 50 years?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Emmanuel Kipchirchir Mutai
- ... that Kenyan Emmanuel Kipchirchir Mutai ran a course record to win the 2011 London Marathon and become the fourth fastest man ever in the marathon?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Jayden Pitt[40]
Godeliève Mukasarasi
- ... that after the Rwandan genocide, social worker and survivor Godeliève Mukasarasi founded a group to help widows and orphans further their socio-economic rights?
Created by Khazar (talk). Nominated by CordeliaNaismith (talk) at 16:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Norma Cruz
- ... that the foundation headed by Guatamalan human rights activist Norma Cruz helped in 2007 to convict over 30 individuals accused of murdering women?
Created by Khazar (talk). Nominated by CordeliaNaismith (talk) at 16:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Alfred E. Goodey
- ... that Alfred E. Goodey collected and commissioned paintings to record the history of Derby?
Created by Memestream (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 15:03, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Bir Hima Rock Petroglyphs and Inscriptions
- ... that in the Najran area of southwest Saudi Arabia, including Bir Hima Rock Petroglyphs and Inscriptions as many as 6,400 human and animal illustrations (pictured) have been recorded?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk) a. Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Img added.--Nvvchar. 11:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Nilar Thein♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Everything is Terrible!
- ... that the creator of "So Your Cat Wants A Massage?", one of the VHS clips posted on the website Everything is Terrible!, appeared as a guest on the Late Show with David Letterman?
Created by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 06:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1 (if the first one is a bit too wordy to work):
- ... that clips of VHS tapes from the website Everything is Terrible! include how to massage a cat, an anti-pedophilia yellow dinosaur, and a direct-to-video crime drama featuring Jay Leno?
–MuZemike 06:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Hierapolis sawmill. –MuZemike 06:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Boston and Montana Consolidated Copper and Silver Mining Company
- ... that in 1889, the Boston and Montana Consolidated Copper and Silver Mining Company agreed to build a smelter in Great Falls, Montana, if a local power company built a dam to supply it with power?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Richard Waghorn - Tim1965 (talk) 01:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Charles Elliott Perkins
... that Charles Elliott Perkins (pictured) was appointed Assistant Treasurer of the Burlington and Missouri River Railroad at the age of 22?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Marcos Mateo - Tim1965 (talk) 00:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Gue, p 212 says he became assistant treasurer in 1860, meaning he'd be 20. Obviously the offline NYT article doesn't add or subtract from this statement. Which is correct? Please leave a message on my talk page when you respond to this. Thanks. upstateNYer 01:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- NY Times said 1862, but Gue said 1860. Another source also says 1860, and I added that to the article. Sources say Lowell (his predecessor) left in the autumn of 1860, and Perkins was appointed to take his place. That suggests 1860 as the actual date, leaving NY Times (which doesn't mention Lowell's departure) likely in error. But I noted the discrepancy in sources in a footnote. I'm proposing a revised hook (below). - Tim1965 (talk) 00:49, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Charles Elliott Perkins (pictured) was appointed Assistant Treasurer of the Burlington and Missouri River Railroad at the age of 20?
George B. Jackson
- ... that George B. Jackson, a businessman in San Angelo, Texas, who had been born into slavery in Virginia, was termed "the wealthiest colored man in Texas" in the late 19th century?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Galesburg Station (Santa Fe)
Offline hook taken in good faith. Good to go, providing nobody objects to using the term "colored man". in a hook.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:56, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Hal Stalmaster
- ... that Hal Stalmaster landed his role in Disney's 1957 film about the American Revolution, Johnny Tremain, without the help of his brother, casting director Lynn Stalmaster?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak
Richard Waghorn
- ... that Richard Waghorn was awarded the Air Force Cross after winning the 1929 Schneider Trophy seaplane race?
- Reviewed: Palaeoperenethis ([41])
Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 21:13, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Santa Fe Railway Depot (Galesburg, Illinois)
- ... that the former station house at the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway station in Galesburg, Illinois had two waiting rooms, one for men and one for women?
- ALT1:... that the former station house at the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway depot in Galesburg, Illinois had two waiting rooms, one for men and one for women?
Created by Gfoley4 (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed James Russell (baseball) [42]
- The hook is off line and presumably checks out, but the title of the article is too misleading to be useful to readers in my opinion. I don't think readers would not associate "Galesburg" with "Santa Fe". Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:37, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, the longer title would be better in this case. Billy Hathorn (talk) 10:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I moved the article to Santa Fe Railway Depot (Galesburg, Illinois). —GFOLEY FOUR— 22:18, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak
- ... that Albert Bierstadt's 1863 painting The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak (pictured) is sometimes likened to Frederic Edwin Church's The Heart of the Andes?
- Reviewed Azimzhan Askarov. Lampman (talk) 19:55, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 19:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
James Russell (baseball)
- ... that when he made his major league debut, Chicago Cubs pitcher James Russell became the 97th former Texas Longhorn to play in the major leagues?
- Reviewed: Darryl Richard (actor) ([[43]])
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Fails WP:DYK rule 3—doesn't have an inline citation for the hook. —GFOLEY FOUR— 19:47, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Iosif Begun
- ... that the release from prison of Iosif Begun, a leader of Jewish emigration movement, was announced in 1987 by a Soviet politician Georgy Arbatov on Face the Nation?
Created by Mhym (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Tainosia
- ... that the extinct planthopper Tainosia quisqueyae was named for the Taíno people and Hispaniola?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Abutilon pitcairnense
- Date and length ok.
Only half of this hook seems to check out from the link provided, however; it confirms that the Taino people are the origin of the name but not Hispaniola. Perhaps the author means "the Taino people of Hispaniola" rather than "and"? If so,I approve.Khazar (talk) 03:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Palaeoperenethis
- ... that the only known specimen of the extinct spider Palaeoperenethis is in the Royal Ontario Museum?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Comesperma sphaerocarpum, Comesperma
- Length and Date fine. The link for the ref is broken, and I will accept on good faith. The link should be fixed, however.--E♴(talk) 21:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!
- ... that the film Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!, directed by Pedro Almodóvar was instrumental in the implementation by the MPAA of a new rating category, NC-17?
5x expanded and sourced by Miguelemejia (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Expansion and hook are good, AGF on offline references - Basement12 (T.C) 11:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Ristikontra
- ... that in the Finnish card game Ristikontra, you win a trick by playing another card of the same rank as the first card in the trick?
- Comment: Article is relatively short, but that's in part because the variants section does not count towards article length, and in part because this game is not well documented at all. I can't write much more about the topic without interviewing players or otherwise engaging in OR.
Created by Hans Adler (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Rewards and Fairies
- ... that Kipling's Rewards and Fairies includes "If—" which has been voted Britain's most popular poem?
Created by Dabbler (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Nice little article, but too short. It needs to have 1500 characters to qualify for DYK, but only has 481 (excluding references), so will need some extra work.Philipjelley (talk) 13:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- The DYK criteria - Long enough says "Articles must have a minimum of 1,500 characters of prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables, etc.)" This article has 2844 excluding references and categories. I am including the brief descriptions of each story as they are prose and not organized as a table. Dabbler (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry I used wordcount, it should be 2792 charactersPhilipjelley (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- No, bullet-pointed lists do not count towards the amount of prose. According to the DYKcheck tool, there are 1017 characters of readable prose so it needs expanding. BigDom (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry I used wordcount, it should be 2792 charactersPhilipjelley (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
The Experiment (album)
- ... that on his debut album, The Experiment, Dane Rumble (pictured) found it difficult to write his former band's usual hip hop music, so turned to pop rock?
- Reviewed: Lagmann mac Gofraid ([44])
- Comment: There is a closer cropped image if needed.
5x expanded by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Article date, length, and ref all check out. However, the lede could be better sourced (all the refs for this already seem to be in the article). I'll try to do a little of this myself Khazar (talk) 14:25, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I removed per WP:LEADCITE the lead should have fewer/no citations to make it punchier and easier to read. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Marcos Mateo
- ... that in his major league debut, Marcos Mateo gave up the winning run in the bottom of the 11th inning on a sacrifice fly?
- Reviewed: Alexander (son of Ivan Shishman) ([[45]])
- Comment: Not sure on the wording. Any suggestions are appreciated.
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 23:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that in his Major League Baseball debut, Marcos Mateo came into the game in the 11th inning, loaded the bases, then gave up a sacrifice fly to lose the game? - Tim1965 (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae
- ... that touristic and archeological project Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae gathers entire Ancient Roman heritage in Serbia?
- ALT1 - ... that 17 Roman emperors where born on the territory of the modern day Serbia, second largest number of Roman emperors from one country, after Italy itself?
- ALT2 - ... that thanks to the Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae project, tourists can visit almost entire Roman heritage of Serbia?
- ALT3 - ... that Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae is a 600 km long touristic tour trough ancient Roman heritage in Serbia?
- Reviewed: Percy Saint (diff)
Created by WhiteWriter (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- There we go again with the 17 Roman emperors claim... I insist on this being removed from the article, as it is a fork of the deleted List of Roman emperors born on the territory of Republic of Serbia. Here's also my judgement as to why this list of emperors is misleading and poorly sourced: [46] (look for the ‘List of Roman emperors born on the territory of Republic of Serbia’ discussion). I am strongly opposed to featuring this article on DYK as long as it includes unsubstantiated claims about 17/18 Roman emperors being born in Serbia, or the forked list of emperors from the deleted article. — Toдor Boжinov — 13:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- All of those sources are fixed. Also, article is heavily sourced, and that list represent only one part of the great Itinerarium Romanum Serbiae project. That former discussion is not useful here, with different subject, sources and all other. Also, i moved it to user space, as that list could not be stand alone article, but in its full content like this, it can. And its not my claim, reliable references are in the article. All claims are referenced, and i hope that you check that first, before you have strongly opposed. --WhiteWriter speaks 21:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Regardless of the sourcing concerns above (which I haven't reviewed for), this doesn't meet DYK specs currently anyway, because lists are not part of the prose requirement, and this is mostly a list. You currently have 1396 characters of prose and you need a minimum of 1500. — KV5 • Talk • 01:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Azimzhan Askarov
- ... that Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the Committee to Protect Journalists, and the International Federation for Human Rights have all called for the release of imprisoned Kyrgyzstani activist and journalist Azimzhan Askarov?
- ALT1 - ... that US actor Martin Sheen has advocated on behalf of imprisoned Kyrgyzstani activist and journalist Azimzhan Askarov?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Khazar (talk • contribs) 18:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: The Experiment (album)
Anthony Sadowski
- ... that Anthony Sadowski, after escaping captivity in the Great Northern War in 1704, came to America and helped Daniel Boone's father found Amity Township, Pennsylvania?
Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 05:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: United States Trust Company theft
Articles created/expanded on April 18
Wilson Onsare
- ... that Wilson Onsare made the fastest ever marathon debut at the 2003 Paris Marathon, but never improved upon his debut time?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 18:02, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Top 100 Mexico
- Note: I'd appreciate it if there was a bit of a delay between putting up this hook and the one for Emmanuel Mutai (listed 17 April) so as not to swamp people with male Kenyan marathon runners!
Laurelhurst Park
- ... that in 1919 the Pacific Coast Parks Association named Portland, Oregon's Laurelhurst Park the "most beautiful park" on the West Coast?
5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Note: Pictures is available if needed. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:48, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
SS British Corporal
- ... that General Franco denied the fact that the British merchant ship British Corporal had been attacked by his forces during the Spanish Civil War?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 07:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed The Card Players (Cezanne). Mjroots (talk) 11:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 15:16, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
The Card Players (Cezanne)
- ... that the French Government issued a postage stamp (pictured) bringing attention to the theft of Cézanne's The Card Players in 1961?
Created by Chimino (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Question is this a public domain image? I wouldn't have though that postage stamps would be OK. StAnselm (talk) 06:06, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment the original painting is PD, therefore copyright cannot be re-created once it has expired (AFAIK). Mjroots (talk) 07:23, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's very underlinked! Johnbod (talk) 01:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Marilyn's Cross
- ... that Marilyn's Cross (pictured) is a recently discovered Brunnian link that is neither Borromean nor alternating?
Created by LMcCormick (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I didn't understand any of that. Perhaps a better hook is in order? Sven Manguard Wha? 04:57, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- The obscurity doesn't bother me, but there are 6 text sections (rather too many), and only 3 refs. One fact tag already added. See the rules. Johnbod (talk) 01:28, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
2011 Pulitzer Prize
- ... that photographer Carol Guzy became the first journalist to win four Pulitzer Prizes when the 2011 awards were announced?
Created by Fryede (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- The article needs improvement, a few rules may be not known. Hook fact and refs are fine. The article's prose is too short, as tables don't count. Is it possible to expand the prose to meet the minimum of 1500 chars? It's 1260 at present. Just for information: creation date was 13 April, it was nominated soon enough, but should have been placed under date of creation, not nomination. I guess the rule to review an article may not apply? I suggest to reword the hook to clarify that it is not about the year 2011, misleading and also too short to catch attraction (please improve, just an idea):
- ALT1: ... that the announcement of the 2011 Pulitzer Prize made photographer Carol Guzy the first journalist to win four Pulitzer Prizes? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Ricardo Tubbs
- ... Miami Vice producer Michael Mann originally conceived the character of Ricardo Tubbs as "nobody's Tonto"?
- Reviewed: Song Beneath the Song (Diff)
- Comment: Page created and nominated today (18 April), replaced existing redirect.
5x expanded by Grapple X (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Salusbury Pryce Humphreys
- ... that Salusbury Pryce Humphreys (pictured) commanded HMS Leopard during the Chesapeake–Leopard Affair in 1807?
- Reviewed: Hotel Lobby ([48])
Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 19:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- date and length verified image all right as well.Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:47, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Joppenbergh Mountain
- ... that when the mine shafts on Joppenbergh Mountain (pictured) collapsed in 1899, nobody died because the miners were all outside eating lunch?
Created/expanded by Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in 1937, the slopes of Joppenbergh Mountain (pictured) were coated with Borax for a summer ski jumping competition?
- Reviewed: Povilas Budrys
- Comment: Moved to main space on April 18, ALT1 is an offline ref.
- Looks good. I prefer Alt1, it is short, clear and interesting. The original hook, in my opinion, has too many facts which make it less appealing to read. References for hooks not available online, so accepted in good faith. On the whole, the article seems well referenced. Image permissions seems alright; original website source states that "this digital image may be used for educational or scholarly purposes without restriction" which with the date, 1888, should be enough to satisfy that copyright has expired and image is PD as stated on description page. -France3470 (talk) 00:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Harold Pupkewitz
- ... that Namibian entrepreneur Harold Pupkewitz (age 95) manages his business conglomerate since 1937?
- Reviewed: Evelyn M. Richardson ([49])
- Comment: Moved to main space on April 18
Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
St James' Church, Cooling
- ... that the churchyard of St James' Church (pictured) in Cooling, Kent, is said to have provided the inspiration for the opening chapter of Charles Dickens' book Great Expectations?
- Reviewed: Gilgamesh (restaurant)
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:40, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Jean-Claude Kavumbagu
- ... that Burundian Internet journalist Jean-Claude Kavumbagu was arrested and charged with treason after writing a blog post criticizing his country's security forces?
Created by Khazar (talk). Nominated by CordeliaNaismith (talk) at 16:32, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and citations for the DYK hook seem to be OK. --TIAYN (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Gilgamesh (restaurant)
- ... that Gilgamesh restaurant in Camden, London, is said to be "an ostentatious replica of a Babylonian palace?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- All DYK criteria met. I have added a word (said) and a comma to the hook, which I assume were missing. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Filep Karma
- ... that Filep Karma is serving a fifteen-year jail sentence for raising the flag of West Papua in Jayapura, Indonesia?
Created by Khazar (talk). Nominated by CordeliaNaismith (talk) at 16:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date fine. Which source says this happened in Timika? --Pgallert (talk) 08:15, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good catch. I started off with one less reliable source that said Timika, but BBC says it happened in the provincial capital; another AI source appears to confirm, though a third muddies the waters by saying it happened at Abepura (which seems to be a prison in the capital, not a town). Anyway, I've changed the article to reflect this and added the reference. I've corrected it above accordingly. Khazar (talk) 15:57, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
The Wandering Madman
- ... that the inscription on Leoš Janáček's gravestone (pictured) was inspired by his choral composition The Wandering Madman?
- Reviewed: Richard Burt (skier)
Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- The quote from Tagore's poem has four phrases: "with his strength gone, his body bent, and his heart in the dust, like a tree uprooted." The quote from the gravestone has only three of those four phrases: "with his strength gone, and his heart in the dust, like a tree uprooted." I want to make sure it is correct that the phrase "his body bent" is missing from the gravestone. If "his body bent" is also missing from the choral work, I would mention that in the article. VC 14:34, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the copyedit and for your review, Viridiscalculus. The inscription reads: "... se silou uhaslou a srdcem v prachu jako strom ..." ("... with his strength gone, and his heart in the dust, like a tree..." I just noticed that words "jenž byl vyvrácen" ("uprooted") are missing (!) and the whole phrase thus makes a little sense. You can see the detailed insciription here. Yes, the phrase "his body bent" is missing from the gravestone. I'll fix it. The work is written and sung in Czech, and yes, Janáček made some really small and unimportant adjustments in the Czech version. Thanks again for your help. Btw, do you like the story? Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:59, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Richard Burt (skier)
- ... that visually impaired skier Richard Burt won four Winter Paralympic medals for Great Britain?
- Reviewed: Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! ([50])
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and citations for the DYK hook seem to be OK. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Povilas Budrys
- ... that Povilas Budrys was voted Best Actor by the Lithuanian Theatre Union for the 1991/2 season?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 11:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Nilar Thein
- ... that Burmese prisoner of conscience Nilar Thein once evaded police capture by rickshaw taxi?
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, and hook verified. I recommend though that another editor checks it to sure it is neutral as such issues are often sensitive ones.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Mike Loan
- ... that Mike Loan amassed a career batting average of .500 by hitting safely once in two at-bats in his only career Major League Baseball game?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Semper Fidelis (march). — KV5 • Talk • 00:48, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hook approved. Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:46, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 19
Mary Ellen Matthews
- ...Mary Ellen Matthews—the photographer responsible for the celebrity portraits used as commercial bumpers on Saturday Night Live—usually takes photographs of the guest-hosts in the studio while the musical guests practice their set?
- ALT1:...photograher Mary Ellen Matthews has been responsible for the celebrity portraits used as commercial bumpers on Saturday Night Live since 1999?
Created by Marchije (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Collin Balester
- ... that in 2005, after Savannah Sand Gnats Collin Balester pitcher allowed just one hit in eight innings, the Greensboro News & Record claimed that he turned the batters into "traffic cones"?
- ALT1:... that when Washington Nationals pitcher Collin Balester won his Major League Baseball debut in 2008, he became the first Nationals pitcher to win his debut since Dan Smith in 1999?
- ALT2:... that in 2010, Washington Nationals pitcher Collin Balester hit two batters in the head with a pitch in a span of nine days?
- Reviewed: Wilson Onsare
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
; original hook is awkward. Use ALT 2. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Berry Hinton
- ... that Berry Hinton had losing teams only three times in twenty-three years as head baseball coach from 1943 to 1967 at Louisiana Tech University in Ruston?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Collin Balester
Erfreut euch, ihr Herzen, BWV 66
- ... that the opening chorus of Bach’s cantata for the Second Day of Easter, Erfreut euch, ihr Herzen, BWV 66, has been termed "one of the longest and most exhilarating of Bach’s early works"?
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Thomas Lawlor (bass-baritone) - Suggested for Easter Monday, 25 April, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good. Maybe the first paragraph of section "History and words" should be referenced. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Top 100 Mexico
- ... that La Voz de un Ángel by Yuridia ranked among the best-selling albums of the year in Mexico for three years in a row?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 16:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Herman Bailey. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:09, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Size, date and references all check out. On a side note: you could also try to add something about the cultural importance of the chart (is it discussed in the Mexican music press? Do Mexican stations/channels use it for a "Top 20" style countdown each week? etc.) It might be worth making a Spanish article too. SFB 18:45, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Herman Bailey
- ... that African American artist Herman "Kofi" Bailey was the one-time artist-in-residence for Kwame Nkrumah, the first president of Ghana?
- Reviewed: Ricardo Tubbs
Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good to go, offline ref accepted in good faith. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:08, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Mooghaun
- ... that the interior part of the Mooghaun fort was demolished to facilitate its use as a picnicking spot?
- Reviewed: Graham Edmunds ([51])
Created by Taco van der Waal (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 14:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Possessive "its" has no apostrophe – I've removed it from the hook. matt (talk) 17:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Graham Edmunds
- ... that despite being told by doctors that he might never walk again British swimmer Graham Edmunds has won two Paralympic gold medals in world record times?
- Reviewed: Philip Hugh Whitby Hicks ([52])
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Length and date check out, but there is no ref in the article where it says he might never have walked again. --E♴(talk) 14:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- It was referenced at the end of the paragraph where it is mentioned in the "Accident" section, I've put an additional citation directly after the fact used in the hook (reference no. 3) - Basement12 (T.C) 14:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Philip Hugh Whitby Hicks
- ... that Brigadier Philip Hicks, the commander of an airborne brigade, had to swim ashore during the Allied invasion of Sicily?
Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Salusbury Pryce Humphreys
- Length, date and references ok - Basement12 (T.C) 13:13, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Nur Muhammad Taraki
A picture of Nur Muhammad Taraki from 1970
- ... that the popular backlash against Nur Muhammad Taraki, a poet, author and the first leader of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, led to the beginning of the Afghan civil war, which continues to this day, and the Soviet intervention in 1979?
Created by TIAYN (talk) 09:04, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Jean-Claude Kavumbagu --TIAYN (talk) 09:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 20
Special occasion holding area
- Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
22 April (Good Friday)
De Nederlandse Bachvereniging
- ... that every Good Friday since 1922, De Nederlandse Bachvereniging (The Netherlands Bach Society) has performed Bach's St Matthew Passion in Naarden (church pictured)?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Mitchell Ayres. - The article is - of course - suggested for Good Friday, 22 April. I took it from the German Wikipedia, which comes without inline citations. The German article is a translation of the Dutch which I can't read. I will work on more refs, any help by people knowing nl is appreciated. The hook fact and many others are supported by the New York Times, and I like the quote (also there) of a Dutch minister: "St. Matthew’ during Holy Week is bigger in the Netherlands than Messiah at Christmas anywhere else." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- More references supplied, including a list of conductors which reads like a Who's who in Bach conducting, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
24 April (Easter)
Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4
- ... that Bach was only in his twenties when he composed the cantata Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4, for Easter (pictured), using in seven movements the words and tune of Martin Luther's Easter chorale?
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed: #Csóványos. - Suggested for Easter, obviously, 24 April. I didn't quite know how to place "pictured" as the pic shows the theme of Easter as well as a print of a Luther Bible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hook and expansion are verified. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 16:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Halloween
Rhacophorus vampyrus
- ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?
Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. Ive opened a larger discussion here; Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Rhacophorus_vampyrus. Its not just that the article may be different, but also that dyk is in the spirit of new articles or recently expanded ones. As such (I feel) queing an article for 10 months is misleading our readers since it is a violation of both leading principles of dyk. Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Good points. This article could be significantly different from the one reviewed by 31st October depending on whether or not the group concerned have published their second paper on the species (one which focuses specifically on the unusual tadpoles) by then. As it stands the article was written from all the extant scientific literature on the species (a single paper) and a smattering of popular press coverage (who probably won't ever revisit the species, unless a big deal is made out of the second paper). It is possible someone will re-write the article from the current sources, however, most articles on obscure species (of which this is one) don't have very high edit levels. For comparison, a large number of articles on other species in the same genus were created by Polbot and haven't been significantly altered since their creation in 2007. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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- User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).