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Hope I'm not nagging, but if you'll notice the article has not only been sporting the sock's version all this time, but is also continuously being edited by the SPA. Now, while I'm sure the SPA could not care less about a block or 3RR (those being the benefits of sockpuppeteering), this should not be used as a tool for pushing edits through. I could edit war now, and of course get blocked, if that's what it will take to protect the article, but I'm kind of hoping that won't be necessary to help you enforce an end to edit-pushing and restore the sourced version. :) --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 17:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC) |
Hope I'm not nagging, but if you'll notice the article has not only been sporting the sock's version all this time, but is also continuously being edited by the SPA. Now, while I'm sure the SPA could not care less about a block or 3RR (those being the benefits of sockpuppeteering), this should not be used as a tool for pushing edits through. I could edit war now, and of course get blocked, if that's what it will take to protect the article, but I'm kind of hoping that won't be necessary to help you enforce an end to edit-pushing and restore the sourced version. :) --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 17:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. I have protected the article for a week and blocked him for a week. As for him being a sock, if you think you know who's sock it is, make an SPI. You may well be right but SPA does not of itself equal sock. [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Fainites|barley]]</small></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Fainites|<small>scribs</small>]] 23:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi mate thanks for your assistance, I am as you can see still very haphazardly using wikipedia and learning the difficult way. As you can see I am trying to get rference 136 to be reference 45, it is the same reference, if you can assist and let me know what i was doing wrong that would be great. Reference 45 is under the title attachment in adults, and 136 under criticisms from 1980's. Also i don't know if this is the correct way to respond to the message you left me or not, please advise.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robboholic (talk • contribs) 01:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Fainites, The psychologist article needs some work. I started working on the opening paragraph. Could you help with that? ----Action potential discuss contribs 13:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hi. Love to help in a bit but I've got Attachment theory going through FAC just at the moment.Fainites barleyscribs 13:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'll ask on the psychology project. Keep up the good work with Attachment theory. best regards, ----Action potential discuss contribs 14:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Sarner Litigation and Complaints
Dear Fainites:
First, I am not a banned user.
Second, what I have posted is not nonsense. The banning of the WordPress blogs is VERY well documented, as is the litigation involving Larry Sarner and Linda Rosa.
Didacticderivative (talk) 17:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
ATTN: FAINITES
Greetings.
Once again, I am not a banned user, it is not appropriate or productive for you to jump to such conclusions.
Second, I know this is not an "attack ACT" page, but a balanced approach must be taken. The removed blogs were pro-ACT. Mr. Sarner's reaction to their removal was made in a public forum.
Insofar as there was previous discussion of ACT members' credentials, Mr. Sarner's involvement in litigation is also appropriate, as it gives a fuller picture. Mr. Sarner is described in various places as a "mathematician and cryptographer"; a review of his inventions gives some insight into him.
Didacticderivative (talk) 22:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
- Complaints were made against the ACT website for alleged copyright violations under the DMCA, ie the quotes of those that ACT designate as attachment therapists. The way the DMCA works means that it is easier for a commercial host to remove a website/blog than take a stand against possibly false claims and risk a claim. ACT's website now appears to be in exactly the same form with another host therefore presumably the threats of legal action against ACT, shown on the Search for Survivors blog, were not carried out. I recall this because it meant changing the links to ACTs website. No doubt a complete history could be argued to serve the interests of "balance" but what on earth has that to do with ACT as an organisation? As for the other blog you've added as also removed from it's orginal host, firstly, it's not ACT and secondly, that also appears to have another host and appears to be in an identical format. So what? How does chasing websites and blogs from one host to another tell anybody anything about ACT? Similarly so what about Sarners past involvement in litigation about voting machines. What does "involvement" mean anyway? This is just the usual mudslinging for which the User:DPeterson entity, which I believe you to be, was indefinitely banned. The same personal attacks that were made all over Wikipedia were also made all over various blogs, as were subsequently these attacks, and these are now moving to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not here for you to pursue personal vendettas against real world enemies. Now - as you are most probably a banned user, and if not, at best a meat puppet, I don't propose to discuss this any further with you. Fainites barleyscribs 22:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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spare imprinting pic.Fainites barleyscribs 12:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
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another spare pic.Fainites barleyscribs 22:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Attachment theory
I am so, so sorry—I completely missed your message on my Talk page :( I'm moving this week, so my Wikipedia workings will be limited. Is there still anything I can do? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:34, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- The prose does need some serious work. I'll see if I can help over the weekend. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll send her some get well wishes! Apartment hunting at the moment, will see if I can look today... Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Books
Hello Fainites!
Thank you for your offer, as Awadewit has indeed sent me a looong list of books for my homework! But as I was just telling her, don't worry: I'll start with W H Smith here in Paris (now the largest English bookshop in France, I believe), where a lot of English litterature is available, and then I'll proceeed with the bigger public libraries (inexpensive, but generally effective, though a bit less with English books, I must admit).
Should be all right; but I'll remember turning to you if I can't get what I am looking for. --Azurfrog (talk) 22:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hi again Fainites,
- Thanks for the offer: I am taking due notice of it (even though, unfortunately, it is not a permanent offer...).
- For the time being though, I believe I should be able to manage, at very little cost to myself, by taking advantage of big public libraries. My visit to WH Smith has not been quite so fruitful as hoped, even though I did find a few of the books I was looking for.
- For the rest, I expect to be able to find what I need in said 'big public libraries', though I did not have time for a visit yet. In any case, I don't mean to read and use all of the list supplied by Awadewit, on top of what I have already used in my article: only her, I believe, would go to such lengths to source an article!
- Best regards. --Azurfrog (talk) 18:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
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Beautiful! That exactly what I was thinking. Couple of things, "The commonly observed attachment behaviour of toddlers of staying near familiar people would have had safety advantages in the environment of early adaptation which Bowlby saw as similar to current hunter gatherer societies, and has such advantages today." can be two sentences. The last sentence in the sandbox can go with where you start with "The attachment system is very robust..." and made into its own paragraph. That's it! It looks waaay better and is more in form in paragraph form, thank you for keeping on that comment. I'm gonna finish reading it through w/comments, I will, just been a bit distracted. ;) JoeSmack Talk 21:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Whatever is easiest for you - i still had about 80% to go and I want to see that thing as an FA. JoeSmack Talk 20:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Cool beans, can do. Just tap me when the new FAC is going for it and I'll start. JoeSmack Talk 20:44, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Btw, just came across this Talk:Rouge_test#self-recognition_and_attachment developing the article for the rouge test. Interesting. JoeSmack Talk 05:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well there you go. It just pops up everywhere.Fainites barleyscribs 13:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Btw, just came across this Talk:Rouge_test#self-recognition_and_attachment developing the article for the rouge test. Interesting. JoeSmack Talk 05:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll try to remember that
thank you!Underlying lk (talk) 21:27, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Policy box
I hope you don't mind, but I love the policy box you have and I've copied it to my user page. Thanks.--TParis00ap (talk) 03:42, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- It's nice but I like clipart rather than photos ;)--TParis00ap (talk) 13:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
What can I do to help? I feel responsible somehow! Awadewit (talk) 04:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ditto—I've finally moved, so I can give the article the attention it deserves! Would you like me to work on the prose before you renominate? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- If you're wondering why I haven't started, this is pretty demanding reading. This is really embarrassing, but, apart from the more biology and neuroscience-oriented paragraphs, I'm trying to make enough sense of the content to actually improve the prose :P Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- No, not at all; I may just be out of FA-reviewing shape at the moment—I'm working two deadlines, moving house, and getting less than three hours of sleep per night. I don't have any sort of psychology background either, and it's become difficult to just go through an article with reader's (not proofreader's or translator's) eyes these past few weeks. Don't worry. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- If you're wondering why I haven't started, this is pretty demanding reading. This is really embarrassing, but, apart from the more biology and neuroscience-oriented paragraphs, I'm trying to make enough sense of the content to actually improve the prose :P Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
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I just saw that you reverted the insertion of a ref by an IP. May I inquire as to why this was done? (This isn't a challenge, just my way of saying "this is unusual, please make me understand"). Regards, --Ramdrake (talk) 18:54, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- OK thanks. The removal makes sense now.--Ramdrake (talk) 19:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Question
Did I introduce any inaccuracies here? I'm trying to tread as lightly as possible, since I have no expertise in the subject matter; I hope I didn't change meanings or orders... Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Motion to reopen ArbCom case "Mattisse"
ArbCom courtesy notice: You have received this notice because you particpated in some way on the Mattisse case or the associated clarification discussion.
A motion has recently been proposed to reopen the ArbCom case concerning Mattisse. ArbCom is inviting editor comment on this proposed motion.
For the Arbitration Committee, Manning (talk) 03:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
The sock drawer :)
Yes, I did notice it, but not being a subject expert, I left it to more informed people to judge. The other one was a no-brainer through similitude.--Ramdrake (talk) 20:08, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Just in case
As you seem to be conversant in a related field, do you know of a user here who would be familiar enough with psychometrics and thick-hided(!) enough to want to look at the current dispute at Race and Intelligence? No problem if you can't think of any. Myself, I think it takes a good dose of masochism to want to join the melee (unfortunately, I'm already in it). Regards, --Ramdrake (talk) 20:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know
The usual suspect is pretending to be you on usenet. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/203687c06c41a139# —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.192.113.238 (talk) 01:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Alt text for attachment theory
Hmm, your change to Template:Child development diagram worked for me in Attachment theory. When you change a template, sometimes you have to shift-reload the article including the template before getting the new version of the template; perhaps that's what happened to you? Thanks for adding the alt text; I tried to make it a bit shorter without losing any info. Eubulides (talk) 21:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Attachment theory FAC, part 2: the vengeance!
I see Awadewit has succeeded where I failed quite miserably. Perhaps I can give it a well-deserved proper review this time... Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Bring it on! Fainites barleyscribs 16:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Unopposed RFAs
The one and only RFA candidate I've ever nominated sailed through unopposed. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:03, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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Responding to your message about this file. I obtained a permission to post it (and any others in the series) by email from its author, Dr. Alexander Minaev, the creator of the site at http://www.moosefarm.newmail.ru/ , in November 2006. I don't know if OTRS already was around at the time, but I certainly had not heard about it at the time. I wrote in Russian, asking for permission, referring to teh by-sa licence described at http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/meet-the-licenses , and he kindly responded, "абсолютно все материалы с сайта Вы можете копировать и использовать как угодно, в том числе и в коммерческих целях, при условии ссылки на меня и на сайт", i.e. "you can copy absolutely all materials from the site, and use them in any manner, including commercially, provided they are attributed to me and linked to the site". With this permission in hand, I posted the images with the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License. Vmenkov (talk) 23:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is really great, especially since it was such an unambiguous response! Vmenkov, do you still have the email? If so, this procedure should be followed. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- No worries. I've forwarded the pertinent emails to permissions-commons AT wikimedia.org. Vmenkov (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, thank you! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much indeed Vmenkov.Fainites barleyscribs 15:14, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, thank you! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- No worries. I've forwarded the pertinent emails to permissions-commons AT wikimedia.org. Vmenkov (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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The (Probably Misattributed) Churchill Quote on Preposition Placement Award For Outstanding, Even if Unintentional, Fearlessness in Preposition Placement, or: the Non-Barnstar Award Least Likely to Feature Prominently on Someone's User Page | |
For boldly placing prepositions where lesser writers would not have them, here is a secure base to explore from and return to. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC) |
- I suspect Churchill at least knew what a preposition was though.Fainites barleyscribs 22:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:59, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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For Attachment theory getting to FA status, because damn. If it ain't going uphill the entire way, what do we get out of it other than months of frustration and disaffection? --Moni3 (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC) |
And lines of ducklings following us everywhere. --Moni3 (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Cool awards guys. Thanks! Fainites barleyscribs 22:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Help at Any Cost
Congratulations on Attachment theory! I wonder if I could prevail upon you for a psychology-related peer review? I put the article about the book Help at Any Cost up for peer review. Input would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/Help at Any Cost/archive1. Hope you are doing well, Cirt (talk) 02:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. I've come across this book when looking into Attachment therapy as it appears some ex-attachment therapy practitioners have found a home in the troubled teen industry.Fainites barleyscribs 09:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'll get the book.Fainites barleyscribs 16:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh great, thank you! Cirt (talk) 20:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'll get the book.Fainites barleyscribs 16:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting. I've come across this book when looking into Attachment therapy as it appears some ex-attachment therapy practitioners have found a home in the troubled teen industry.Fainites barleyscribs 09:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Baiting
The general negative terms in which Mattisse and her mentors are regularly characterized in hyperbolic language is 'baiting' in my eyes. It is sure to frustrate, and get a rise out of, Mattisse. However, as a specific example, the complaints about her recent tagging (and the over-the-top tone/characterization thereof) seem to be a good example of baiting in my eyes. Anyone remotely familiar with the situation is aware that such overblown statements will fluster and consternate Mattisse. Poking Mattisse with a stick (unfairly), knowing full well the kind of rise it will get out of her, seems accurately called 'baiting' in this context. Calling it 'baiting' is being quite generous and tactful in my opinion, at least compared to far more blunt (and honest) labels. I hope this clarifies. Please feel free to leave me a message if you would like further examples, or if I can provide a better clarification of my views. Vassyana (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. I can see that the general cynicism towards Mattisse and her mentors could seem like that to an observor. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree though. I am afraid that people who feel they have been targeted by Mattisse over long periods of time may well appear hypersensitive to those merely reading the diffs but they are unlikely to be persuaded otherwise. You might like to read this. But at the end of the day, does any of that matter now if a solution is found and the Plan works? I cannot see how assuming bad faith on the part of those who feel aggrieved helps. Nearly all of them are editors in good standing, not known for causing trouble, forming cabals or pursuing vendettas. Any "FAC editors" will have gone through countless tough reviews. How likely is it that this disparate collection of editors have banded together to bait and vilify just Mattisse for no good reason? Mattisses poking of other editors, particularly One Who has Asked Not To Be Named tends to increase the more trouble she gets into, derailing everything when there are trenchantly worded responses. Personally I stay out of the way except for official processes where evidence is required, but I do look out for things. I maintain that I have not seen anybody set out to "bait" Mattisse. I have seen some very strong and unfortunately worded views expressed about her in circumstances where, rightly or wrongly, others feel she is baiting them. I can see how those who do not come from the same perspective as people with histories with Mattisse could see this as a form of "wind-up" or baiting of Mattisse. In general I don't think it actually is. Let's hope the Plan works. Plenty of space for every one.Fainites barleyscribs 22:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there. Just wanted to let you know I reverted your post-closure comment on the RfA. –Juliancolton | Talk 14:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
[12] memo.Fainites barleyscribs 10:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment
Appreciate your note.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:15, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Attachment theory review
Hey mate, haven't seen any activity from you in the attachment theory review lately. Do you wish to continue? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 04:46, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
- Happy to hear it, I'll check it out either today or tomorrow. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 22:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
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12.183.100.130 (talk · contribs) is spamming the information to more articles. Is there a relevant SPI report that should be indicated on this ips talk page? Should the spamming be stopped? --Ronz (talk) 21:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see any comments to MastCell. The lag is making it difficult to see what this ip has done since the warnings. If this is a sock, it should be blocked. --Ronz (talk) 22:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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I'm not sure why the opacity has stopped working. I removed the alpha item from the style tag as a temporary fix. I'll try to work out exactly what's happening. ----Action potential discuss contribs 08:01, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
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RFA?
I was looking at potential candidates for RFA, and you clearly qualify with three FAs in your credit, and some other wikipedia related work. Interested in one? Thanks Secret account 21:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oh. Er. Gosh. Well. The difficulty is, alot of being an admin seems to involve things like AfD and ANI and copyright. Not things I hang about at. However, I have been through various arbitrations/failed mediations/RfCs etc (not as the subject) so I am familiar with conflict and dispute resolution! I've recently been doing things like recent changes, pending changes and rollback as I've been having a bit of a break from serious content editing as I've been rather busy in RL. Used to do some reviewing too but not recently. Does this fit the bill? I rather suspect the tools might be wasted on me. Fainites barleyscribs 21:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hi
Early congratulations on your RfA, you'll do a great job with the mop! Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 23:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 11:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations! I've added you to WP:100. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats from me too! If you've any mopping questions, feel free to ask and I'll help as best I can :) GedUK 12:18, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- 'Grats on being handed the mop, and best wishes! Jusdafax 12:52, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Congrats from me too! If you've any mopping questions, feel free to ask and I'll help as best I can :) GedUK 12:18, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I didn't even know you were nominated. I keep RFA off my watchlist for a reason, but I'da voted support. --Moni3 (talk) 12:57, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Fladrif (talk) 13:37, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
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- Thanks everybody! And thanks to everyone who voted too - and to Moni3 for her virtual vote! I hope you'll all feel free to give me a nudge
whenif I go insane with the power.Fainites barleyscribs 14:19, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks everybody! And thanks to everyone who voted too - and to Moni3 for her virtual vote! I hope you'll all feel free to give me a nudge
- Congratulations and best of luck! Tyrol5 [Talk] 14:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- W00t, another redlink goes blue! My condolences on your promotion. - 2/0 (cont.) 04:00, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
A belated congrats! Also, thanks for your support at my RfA, which has been closed as successful. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 16:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sort of kind of. I kinda went a bit nuts and did a personal thanks to (almost) everyone who !voted (thus the "semi"). I don't blame you for not going that route! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 21:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
How could I have missed this? Anyway, enjoy the mop :) If you need anything, I'm all ears. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Fv.Fainites barleyscribs 22:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
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just a quick observation. an edit that removes 1,300 bytes of material from an article should probably not be marked 'minor'. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- I moved the material to a different section (patient recruitment) without deleting it and then went back and deleted it from the original section (prevalence) so no substantial material was removed overall.Fainites barleyscribs 23:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- fair enough. I just saw on my watchlist a substantive removal marked 'minor', I didn't check into it closely. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 23:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- I moved the material to a different section (patient recruitment) without deleting it and then went back and deleted it from the original section (prevalence) so no substantial material was removed overall.Fainites barleyscribs 23:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks on the userbox! I edited one based on a comment form louielouie on the fringe theories noticeboard talk page. feel free to add it and join the madness at FTN. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 23:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Speaking of attachment therapy, I noticed this letter in the Sunday New York Times (Ctrl-F for "Jean Mercer"). MastCell Talk 16:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks.No prizes for guessing what would happen.Fainites barleyscribs 19:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Psychology barnstar
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Oh wow! Thanks! Though Rudolf Wolters was not psychology. Does this mean you have to make it proportionately smaller? Fainites barleyscribs 21:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hello and welcome to this, the inaugural edition of the WikiProject Children's literature newsletter. We're very excited about it and we hope that you will enjoy reading it. We're still in the early stages, though, and need your suggestions and feedback. Do you like the newsletter? What would you like to see in the next edition? Please give us your feedback on this issue here. We really value it.
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Thanks :)
For the lovely vote :) and for the comment on my stupid poetry :):) Best Wifione ....... Leave a message 19:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
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WikiProject Children and Young Adult's literature Newsletter - October 2010
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Hello and welcome to this, the second edition of the newsletter. This month, I need to ask a favour of you. You may have seen that this month I had to write the newsletter by my self. I really need your help with writing and giving suggestions. If you have a suggestion for a future edition, please list it at the tips desk. You may also notice the links underneath this piece. Please use them to share this newsletter on your favourite social networks. Until next time, happy editing!
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DOB & Age formatting in Infoboxes (re: Ruth Holmes discussion)
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- Regarding your comments at my talk page:
Fainites, I thank you for the input, and especially the respectful and polite way in which you have imparted it. I will take your words under advisement in the future. Also, regarding my use of the word "lazy", I have issued an apology to Malleus [13]. Once again, I thank you for your polite and respectful advice, -- Cirt (talk) 07:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
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I, -- Cirt (talk), award The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar to Fainites, for the polite and kind tone in which you have imparted constructive criticism to me. I really appreciate that. A lot. It meant a lot to me. And I will do my best to learn from your advice in the future. Thank you very much. Yours, -- Cirt (talk) 17:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC) |
- Thanks Cirt. Best of luck.Fainites barleyscribs 20:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are most welcome! -- Cirt (talk) 20:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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Rinpoche
Hi, as this user has not withdrawn their statement telling me to go **** myself at WQA, it might appear to be stirring things up for me to contact them on their talk page, however the current user page User:Rinpoche does not meet the guidelines of User pages unless it is clear that s/he is applying a recognized Dispute resolution process. Could you please take a look and advise me on the best action to take here? Thanks, Fæ (talk) 07:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hi. I was just looking over all this and catching up and was about to say to you that I didn't think Rinpoche was remotely interested in dispute resolution when I saw he had, quite rightly in my view, been indef blocked. Fainites barleyscribs 14:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
*coughs*
User:RankinUberall. Quack quack quack. 75.102.215.59 (talk) 23:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah I thought so too! Thanks.Fainites barleyscribs 23:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Just as long as you do a sockpuppet check. 75.102.214.133 (talk) 23:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Got round to it in the end. Fainites barleyscribs 22:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Just as long as you do a sockpuppet check. 75.102.214.133 (talk) 23:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah I thought so too! Thanks.Fainites barleyscribs 23:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Personal attacks page.
Hey, I have left a reply on the page for you. Jayy008 (talk) 23:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Woops, I meant this: Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts Jayy008 (talk) 23:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Cheers.Fainites barleyscribs 23:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Woops, I meant this: Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts Jayy008 (talk) 23:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Re:British Empire
As of right now, I've removed/replaced/fixed all but two of the problematic images. The first is File:The British Empire.png (the infobox image) - "Maps can be copyrighted (see commons:Commons:Image casebook#Maps and satellite images). Unless the maps in those books were not copyrighted (either using public domain maps or creation from data sets), retracing them would be a copyright violation." The second is File:British Empire 1897.jpg - "Link does not show or help to verify this map was created or published in 1897. Neither does it help to verify {{PD-old}}
since the cartographer might have created this map at the age of 25 and lived till he was 80 (1952), which would not be 70 years ago." If you can come up with a way to fix those two problems (or find good replacements), then I think all the image issues would be addressed. However, that's assuming the images in the article remain static - I've already reverted the re-addition of some problematic images. Other than that, I think all the sourcing stuff is already done, so we should be good to go. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Depends. Does it show the Empire as it was in 1922, or its evolution up to 1922? What exactly does the copyright notice say? Where was the atlas published? Copyright rules can get so complicated...Nikkimaria (talk) 16:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- As for the blank map - that definitely applies to some of the images I removed. However, the lead map says that it was derived from maps published in atlases, which may or may not be copyrighted. I'll see if I can track those down. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:56, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, my guess is that your atlas map would be
{{PD-US-1923-abroad}}
. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC) Edit: I think{{PD-UK}}
would also apply, and that means the map would be suitable for Commons. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)- Cool. Now all I have to do is find a 2 1/2 foot wide colour copier. Fainites barleyscribs 19:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Working on it - sent an email to the people at the Cambridge U Library to see if they know where it's from. In the meantime, could you check with Jappalang that his concern about the infobox image has been addressed? Nikkimaria (talk) 20:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Problematic development on the 1897 map - I heard back from Cambridge, and they don't know its copyright status or its source either, because they got it from "Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons". Apparently the description page said it was PD, so they took it at its word. They think the original source, which they didn't make note of, was either in Spanish or was described in Spanish, but they're not really sure. It's not on OCLC. I've contacted the original uploader here, but as he/she uploaded the image in 2004 I don't know if we'll get an answer. I'll keep digging, but it's not looking promising. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oh bugger. Still - if nobody knows who owns it - there's nobody to pay the royalties too. Mind you - I live the idea of Cambridge getting it's stuff from Wikipedia. Fainites barleyscribs 21:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've replaced it with a more...decorative map. We can revert if we ever figure out where the 1897 version came from. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:06, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Looks like Jappalang added this map to the hitlist. Did you find any blank maps of Africa? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:36, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've replaced it with a more...decorative map. We can revert if we ever figure out where the 1897 version came from. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:06, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oh bugger. Still - if nobody knows who owns it - there's nobody to pay the royalties too. Mind you - I live the idea of Cambridge getting it's stuff from Wikipedia. Fainites barleyscribs 21:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Problematic development on the 1897 map - I heard back from Cambridge, and they don't know its copyright status or its source either, because they got it from "Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons". Apparently the description page said it was PD, so they took it at its word. They think the original source, which they didn't make note of, was either in Spanish or was described in Spanish, but they're not really sure. It's not on OCLC. I've contacted the original uploader here, but as he/she uploaded the image in 2004 I don't know if we'll get an answer. I'll keep digging, but it's not looking promising. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Working on it - sent an email to the people at the Cambridge U Library to see if they know where it's from. In the meantime, could you check with Jappalang that his concern about the infobox image has been addressed? Nikkimaria (talk) 20:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Cool. Now all I have to do is find a 2 1/2 foot wide colour copier. Fainites barleyscribs 19:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, my guess is that your atlas map would be
- As for the blank map - that definitely applies to some of the images I removed. However, the lead map says that it was derived from maps published in atlases, which may or may not be copyrighted. I'll see if I can track those down. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:56, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Great! Is the BOTs image from the same base map as the lead image? Nikkimaria (talk) 18:47, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- I guess we just wait to see what Dana says. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Ratings
I don't know if there is a rule. But you could ask somebody at Wikiproject:Television. They're always very helpful. What they'll say if use final ratings (I'm guessing). It's just using the average is what's done, and what's always been done. If you say 2.05, it's inaccurate because that's only the first half of the episode, so that needs to be specified when using it. When ratings are calculated, they use the average viewers for the full episode. TVBTN gives you more information for the tv obsessives like myself. Do you want me to ask at the project for you and point you to the discussion when it's done? Jayy008 (talk) 18:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I will do. Do you have an opinion to add or just want to know the final result? Jayy008 (talk) 19:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- No reply, so far. Jayy008 (talk) 12:44, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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Re: British Empire FAR
Yes, Fainites, that is okay. Jappalang (talk) 22:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately for File:British Decolonisation in Africa.png, the base map you suggest traces to File:Commonwealth Realms map.png, which does not provide any sources for how it was made (replication of "free" maps or created from co-ordinate datasets). Jappalang (talk) 02:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, the two matched; File:British Decolonisation in Africa.png is derived from File:BlankMap-World3.svg. Well done. Jappalang (talk) 01:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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Children and Young Adult's literature WikiProject Newsletter - Issue 3
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Hello and welcome to this, the third edition of our WikiProject's newsletter. In this month's newsletter, I encountered a problem, well, two problems actually. I needed some help with the production: suggestions and other writers. As with last month, if you have any suggestions for the newsletter, please add them at the Tips Desk. If you would like to write some of the next issue, that's even better! Just come go over to the main Newsletter page to see where you can help out, and of course, as always, please give us your feedback on this edition, on the talk page. Until next time, happy editing!
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- Please pardon the intrusion. This tin of thanks spam is offered to everyone who commented or !voted (Support, Oppose or Neutral) on my recent RfA. I appreciate the fact that you care enough about the encyclopedia and its community to participate in this forum.
- There are a host of processes that further need community support, including content review (WP:GAN, WP:PR, WP:FAC, and WP:FAR). You can also consider becoming a Wikipedia Ambassador. If you have the requisite experience and knowledge, consider running for admin yourself!
- If you have any further comments, input or questions, please do feel free to drop a line to me on my talk page. I am open to all discussion. Thanks • Ling.Nut (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Fainites – tks for your kind words on my talk page. Cheers! • Ling.Nut (talk) 08:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you very much
Thank you, for your positive comments about my work, in the deletion discussion for the article Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System at the AFD page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System. Your comments are most appreciated. Thanks again, -- Cirt (talk) 18:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. Especially on controversial topics, which have been the subject of WP:SPA-targeting [14] and massive sockfarm disruption [15], one must take care to maintain meticulous sourcing for every single sentence - with regards to new article creation within those topics. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 18:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. Any advice with regards to this particular topic/article/WP:SPA/socks issue? -- Cirt (talk) 18:57, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
A party with a COI brought this to WP:BLPN. Thoughts? -- Cirt (talk) 21:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Ips
Hi! Thank you for your comment. Can you show me what division of wikiipedia you are talking about and walk me through the process? Thanks, Carolyn Baker III (talk) 02:28, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Dear Fainties:
Thank you for your easy to follow instructions on hot to bust creeps and sockpuppet. So are you like, encouraging me to post a sockpuppet denunciation on Matthew I. Gnash? I totally will if you want me to. All the best, Carolyn Baker III (talk) 13:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- No I am not encouraging you to post a sockpuppet investigation request. Really I am saying put up or shut up! If you have a genuine reason to believe he is using a sockpuppet to double-vote at AfD's or create the appearance of false consensus on talkpages or in articles then by all means, make a report. Just arguing it at length at Projecst and article talkpages without pursuing it properly is merely disruptive and tends to derail discussions.Fainites barleyscribs 15:21, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- The editor can't even spell my name, and honestly is just a troll. Sorry the editor bothered you about me. I did a SPI on "her" and it seems this person is indeed a sock puppet of a previously blocked editor. Mathewignash (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
- No I am not encouraging you to post a sockpuppet investigation request. Really I am saying put up or shut up! If you have a genuine reason to believe he is using a sockpuppet to double-vote at AfD's or create the appearance of false consensus on talkpages or in articles then by all means, make a report. Just arguing it at length at Projecst and article talkpages without pursuing it properly is merely disruptive and tends to derail discussions.Fainites barleyscribs 15:21, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your message. I'm not surprised. Give them enough rope.....etc etc! I was watching to see what "she" did but usually I miss the denouments being on UK time! Best of luck. Fainites barleyscribs 12:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
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Well said ! Bishonen | talk 00:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC).
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y did you delete page u fukin nazi do u support nazi peoples? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.59.68.58 (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- The "article" was anti-semitic nonsense as is a previous edit of yours. You are now blocked for a month. Fainites barleyscribs 22:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
complex trauma
Why do u continue to remove relevant and appropriately sourced material? Isn't that considered bad faith and an edit war??? 206.217.67.66 (talk) 03:14, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- In so far as it is relevent it is already better addressed in other sections of the article - something that has been pointed out to you before. Mostly though it is neither accurate, relevent nor appropriately sourced. Finally, you are a sock of a long term abuser, permanently banned, who frequently adds this material.Fainites barleyscribs 11:13, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for the input and the welcome links!
I did not remove any content though, simply changed some locations to make the article better readable. Most important I moved the part about assesment to a section of it's own, and wrote a small part about the difference between tests and questionnaires and DIF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MethAdvice2010 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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Howdy Fainites. The name you're speaking of is TharkunColl. GoodDay (talk) 10:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
The first time, you had it ThurkinColl. GoodDay (talk) 10:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Explanation needed - Iran-Iraq war
I have Iran-Iraq War on my watch-list, and I noticed that you are removing parties that were associated with Iraq during the war, calling it "controversial" additions that need to be discussed, yet you don't seem bothered about the same type of entries under Iran's side. This seems like a selective POV interpretation of what is and what is not OK. This would be normal if you were acting as just another editor. But that doesn't seem to be your capacity on that page, as you have used your administrative powers to block one of the parties involved in this dispute. Please clarify what your role on that page is, as an administrator can not be involved in in a content dispute , and at the same time, threaten/block the other parties involved. Kurdo777 (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
I am not involved in the content dispute. I blocked Scythian77 for abusive edit summaries, (calling other editors "racist") edit warring and stonewalling attempts to resolve disputes on the talkpage. as can be seen from the block summary. He called other editors "racist" more than once. I have no idea whether he is right or not about the content but no doubt if he is right he could produce sources to say so. Very shortly afterwards IPs started making the same edits. On the not unreasonable assumption that it might be related I removed those edits with the advice to discuss it on the talkpage. This was not done at the time. If you say there is more edit warring/abuse/disruptive editing going on there now by all means take it to ANI so it can be looked at. Believe me, Kurdo, I hold no brief for either side. If you say properly sourced information is being kept out and improperly sourced information is being kept in, I would be happy to look at the situation if the relevent sources are clearly set out on the talkpage but I am unlikely to have the sources available to me unless they are on the internet.Fainites barleyscribs 12:05, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. Going back and looking further into at Scythian77's edits, he was indeed being abusive and unreasonable, which did a disservice to his own edits/arguments. I was just wondering why the IP's edits were being reverted, when the other side has the exact same type of info listed with no sources. But I'll take your word for it, I understand your position now. By the way, I listed two sources for now, hopefully the other side will tolerate the well-source ed items which maybe against their POV. Cheers Kurdo777 (talk) 14:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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Atheist discussion at BLPN
Hi Fainites, I just spotted a comment of yours in the atheist/agnostic discussion at BLPN which I missed at the time. You were referring to the EB definition of atheists:
- Atheists. Persons professing atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious (opposed to all religion).
Note that the same Britannica page also provides a definition for nonreligious/agnostic, a category which includes nonbelievers:
- Nonreligious (agnostics). Persons professing no religion, nonbelievers, agnostics, freethinkers, uninterested, or dereligionized secularists indifferent to all religion but not militantly so.
So they make a subtle distinction between disbelief and nonbelief, seeing the former as a more definite stance on the issue than disinterest. I would have mentioned that at the time had I seen your comment. Best, --JN466 17:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- At one end of the spectrum - yes. However, it also includes people who express disbelief. This doesn't have to be done militantly. At it's simplest, atheists know they don't believe in god. Agnostics either aren't sure or don't care. I am simply concerned that we don't fall into the current zeitgeist of promoting the idea that atheism is a belief system. Fainites barleyscribs 22:01, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
More sockpuppetry
Can you find the last SPI report related to PranakanLegion's edits? --Ronz (talk) 16:30, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
To clear any confusion, I had an edit conflict with you at Attachment-based therapy (children) that wasn't flagged. Makes for a confusing edit summary when you got your edit in there before mine without my knowledge. --Ronz (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, weird! I can find the SPI's. Hang on a mo. Fainites barleyscribs 21:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- I studied with Dr. BW when he was here a couple of yrs ago and found his work helpful at my community clinic. I was researching complex trauma and noted that there is nothing there on DDP, yet there is one or two studies regarding it and so think it should be listed...maybe I don't phrase my addition correctly, but I think what I say is supported by references and so is accurate. Why are you so angry about this? PranakanLegion (talk) 01:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not angry. I just think you are yet another sockpuppet of the DPeterson entity who has been trying to insert adverts for this unvalidated therapy for years and who adds material that is not supported by the references. Fainites barleyscribs 14:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Why are you continuing to violate the wiki policies regarding no personal attacks and such? I just don't understand your violent objections to the sourced, referenced, and NPOV edits I made. Clearly DDP is not an unvalidated treatment...that certainly meets the wiki standard for a POV statement. My edit is NPOV. My edits are supported by the references. How are they not? Maybe it is time to have an administrator review you conduct and lack of civility. If you are such a defender of wiki, how can we get such an intervention by an unbiased administrator? PranakanLegion (talk) 12:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Filing a SPI report was probably the best step to take, given the extent of the past problems. --Ronz (talk) 17:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah. It's just that it takes a bit of time to do! Sorry about that. Fainites barleyscribs 17:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. One less distraction gone (for now). --Ronz (talk) 22:41, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
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I don't know if you've been keeping an eye on Eickman's talk page since you blocked him, but the personal attacks have kept on going.
- Here come the lies again.
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Thanks for your help with this. I appreciate the time you spent. What frustrates me is that there's typically only ever one editor interested in any given situation, so you had to take the load and it could only be dealt with as fast as you were able. Most admins just don't seem to bother with disruptive editors because it's too much hard work.--Taiwan boi (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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Re: Divineofficer
I have no objection to a discussion with the editor in question. I just want to make sure that he understands that he cannot add his own opinions or interpretations to articles. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 01:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you
I just wanted to thank you. I was thinking to leave a much wider explanation on the ANI report page, but then I saw that it was quite long. However, I do feel that it could be benefitial, and I would like to have it exposed somewhere, so I honestly hope you want mind I post it here. This was my report:
"Regarding the issue itself, I would like to stress out, just for the future record, the following: here on WP there are two kinds of NPOV editors, the ones that edit too positively, and the ones that edit too negatively. Let me please explain myself, and the reason why do I find the second one much more offensive. This user has donne an incredible effort to, beside glorifying his "side", completely carnish the other. The method used is to massively edit all related articles, following by an intense protection of the same, reaching or being very close to the breaking of the WP:OWN policy. This user could favour "his side", but what is being prejuditial here is that beside that, he is preventing any attempt made by other users to "defend" the "other side" in any way, reverting all positive edits to the other side (even if well sourced). Besides that, he takes enormous advantage because the issue has not receved much interess lately, and the few editors mostly without much experience (or non at all) are promtly and severely reverted by this user and ridiculously accused of suckpoppetry (not even one suckpuppet has existed on this lately). Going to the exemples from articles, the "nazyfication" of the Yugoslav monarchic movement and their leader has been massively donne by the user, beside being very clear to all that the movement has been the allied of US, Britain and France troughout most of the war, the exception being the final year and because the other side was being more effective and had the support of the Soviets ending to win the war. So, this user, beside most of the content in the articles being highly NPOV and edited by him, should be quite "happy" in having the monarchists listed in the Axis side, but further, he is blocking any attempt to list them in the "Allied" side as well! Despite being they a "resistance" movement, having been officially allies for most of the time in the war, having receved directives from London, and beside the high condecorations that Mihailovic receved for his efforts in the struggle against the Axis, most even post-mortum, meaning that were unninfluenced by the events in the war. This obviously is making many people to be quite shocked when finding this in WP articles, and most of them end up being roughly reverted and treatened, giving up, wrongly thinking that this must be some "purpously politically" oriented move that WP supports. So, the inclusion of the movement and Mihailovic in the "Axis" section is already hard to accept, but their exclusion from the "Allied" section is very serious disruption. Further, when the user is confronted, he promtly uses provocation, and purpously tries to make all look some "Balkan nationalism" while the only one "Balkanically" behaving here is himself. Instead of appreciating an automatic neutral approach that most of this users had used (including myself) by leaving the movement and their leader in both sides (because the issue is actually controversial), this user reverts all that doesn´t include the nazyfication of them. Even in the mediation itself, the collaboration donne by the movement has been described as occasional and oportunistic, and this clearly users knows this but chooses to ignore it. That occasional and oportunistic collaboration has given him the "right" to include them in the Axis side, but the nature of the movement, the fact that they were the recognised allies for most of the war, and all high condecorations doesn´t allow them to be in the Allied side"? The move request can demonstrate this as well, because he wants to rename a "wide range" article (Yugoslav Front), to the name of the struggle that only "his side" addopted during the war this way preventing any editing of anything alse but his rethoric. Please see the number of times this user has had problems before, the number of reverts that he has donne in that and other related articles, and the nature of them, and everything will be easily clear. I apologise for the long comment but I´m feeling that the situation here is perhaps hard to understand when not involved in it, and some explanation can be helpfull."
I apologise for leaving this entire explanation here, but I am having much trouble of dealing with this behavior, and it has been a serios problem in all related articles because is making many users just give up on editing on this, and that ends up being very prejuditial, and leaves all this articles with only one POV rethoric. FkpCascais (talk) 02:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, and regarding the link to the mediation that was provided by Nuujinn (another participant in the mediation, in direktor´s side), it would be good to say that the link you had has zero arguments to "my side" (because I touth, and still think, that page was not for argumentation) and all the other for the "other" side. Here is the actual mediation dispute: [16]. FkpCascais (talk) 02:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well I'm not holding a brief for either side but I suspect the situation may be too complicated to simply put the Chetniks and Mikhailovic in just one list, whichever it is.Fainites barleyscribs 14:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- I apologise, I haven´t noteced the message you left me here, and if it was before my edit on the article, please forgive me because I didn´t knew about it until now.
- I already left a message on the talk page on the article where I expressed my full agreement on having a 3 side infobox. That was the ideal solution from the beggining, and something I allways defended for this situation. I allways defended that it was a 3-side conflict and that the simplification made by direktor and his insistence in including them in the Axis side was simply wrong. I didn´t knew about this possibility (I didn´t knew how to do a 3 side infobox, or if it was going to be accepted) and I already left further suggestions on how he could improve it, on the articles talk page. FkpCascais (talk) 21:09, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Protection request
Fainites, since Fkp seems intent on editing the article (and you may rest assured the edits will undoubtedly be disputed), I would like to repeat my request that the article be restored and protected for the time being until the RM is concluded. Would you consider this? The article is only stable at this time due to good will on my part. I admit I strognly feel that neither should good will be exploited, nor edit-warring be rewarded thusly as a means of pushing through changes in an article. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 11:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I apologise to intervene here, but I really need to stress out my surprise to this request since I am an editor here on en.wiki well known for my extreme NPOV approach on Balkan related articles with a good collaboration with editors from all nationalities, not only from that region, but from the entire world. The only one oposing me has allways been direktor, and it was only because of him that I had a few blocks here. Anyway, I also find it strange because, and sorry for saying this, but most of my edits end up quite well accepted and usually considered highly fair by most users. I could even bet that the only reverts I have in total on en.wiki are almost all done by direktor (or alasdairgreen, an editor with close relation with direktor). On the other side, I have serious doubts that direktor has even one area where he is not disputed, and I can strongly say that direktor doesn´t have more blocks only because of certain resons I wan´t express here. I apologise once more for this intervention of mine here, but I felt attacked by direktors unfair arguments here. FkpCascais (talk) 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I apologise to expose the issue here, but I need admin advice. Following your guidance, I made 3 proposals on how to make the infobox more correct. My first question is if you don´t mind my approach and possibly support me on this at least to put it on vote. The second question has to do with the ignorance I´m receving regarding my proposals (participants are present but ignoring the vote and distracting with other, not so urgent issues), and I am suspecting that the ignoring of them is done on bad-faith. I´m only asking for a simple yes or no answer for each and a reasoning for the oposition, if existing. Could you please support me on this by asking the intervenients to at least respect my efforts and answer to me? FkpCascais (talk) 18:35, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- People have answered, though not in a yes/no format. I think it's pretty obvious Direktor does not agree and WF quite likes it as it is so he is not agreeing either. The approach of making a proposal and asking for agreement or disagreement on each element is a reasonable approach. However, it is not going to be quick. You are all still in mediation and there is no agreement as far as I can see on the extent of Chetnik collaboration, or even on whether they were more than merely nominally Allies. Voting as such can be problematic on topics where there is a history of socking.Fainites barleyscribs 19:24, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- The answers didn´t provided any reasonable oposition to the proposals and were rather unfocused and vague. I apologise but I find all but fair to be ignored. If they don´t have arguments to oppose them, than the proposed changes should be accepted. Lets not forget that direktors oposition was promptly accepted, and I am not asking to have my changes accepted, but simply discussed if oposed (impossible to be more fair that this). FkpCascais (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh Fainites, I just saw now that we had a missunderstanding on the articles talk page. It was after your 6th comment on "Chetniks-Allies?!" section. You started by saying that you had not added anything into the infobox as your suggestion, and you ended up saying that you were having the idea that I was going to, citing you, "struggle to persuade other editors that the Chetniks did not collaborate with Italians, then Germans (Axis powers) against the Partisans. Is the mediation going to resolve this?". I started my next comment with "Of couse,..." answring to your initial part, that you were not rsponsable for the content, but the way it was, you probably got the idea that I said that I was going to deny collaboration! No! Fainites, I said several times that I am not deniying collaboration, but from what we saw in the mediation, the collaboration was only active with the Italians (and specially because they fought the Croats in Dalmatia, that were German allies, just as Italians, what a mess, I know...) and that all the sources direktor menaged to present as demonstration of collaboration with Germans was a number of meating between officials (from where we can even see the animosity between them) and that the only Chetniks that effectively collaborated with the Germans were actually the rebel Chetniks of Kosta Pecanac. Sorry to bother you with this, but seing that you read the current articles, plus this, I understand now the feeling that I may be biased that you probably ended up having. I hope you understood the difference now. Also, Fainites, I understand that you obviously have some doubts when I tell you that direktor editing is really very biased, but please do an exercise and see any of this articles in a state prior to direktors editing. I wasn´t here back then, and I asure you (because recently I saw many of the old versions) that they are much more objective than the current ones. FkpCascais (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please give me credit and when you find yourself with time do this exercise and read these articles, as well (don´t warry, these are shorter and much older), and just make a comparison to the current one, and make your own conclusions.
- This was the Chetniks article before any direktors intervention: [17]
- This is Yugoslav Front just before first direktors edit: [18]
- And this one Draža Mihailović also just before first direktors edit: [19].
- I am not saying this articles are 100% right (I haven´t analised them at all), but I can assure you they are more close to NPOV than the current ones. Please check all this and other versions from that period so you can be sure I am not lieying or cheating you in any way. FkpCascais (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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FYI, the idea of renaming/returning the article to Yugoslavia in World War II has been presented as a third option at the the move discussion for Yugoslav Front.--Labattblueboy (talk) 14:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Vandalism on GiovBag's talk page
Concerning my comment on GiovBag's talk page, I sustain my thinking on the matter. If I have violated some WP's policy, do what you consider it is proper to do in such a case. On the vandalism on both his user and talk pages, I think it is quite inadeccuate but I don't know who might have done it. He probably annoyed someone else with his edits in some of the articles on White people.--Pablozeta (talk) 15:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Korea International School
Regarding your revdel on that article, the single revdel was not enough as the name was not removed until later edits. You need to revdel all edits up to the point where the content was removed. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Sources
Faintes, I think that after a year of inane nonsense its high time someone finally explained to fkp that his own personal disagreement is not alone something that should influence discussions. This absurdity has to come to an end sometime. The way the ridiculous, year-long mediation has been (mis)handled is this: unless both sides agree, we can't move on. This unbelievable method has enabled Fkp to simply ignore any and all sources - by simply disagreeing :). The whole thing should have been over after a week. A metric TON of sources stands now listed in the mediation describing in full the MASSIVE extent of the Serbian Chetnik collaboration - yet a couple of Serbian users have been (amazingly) allowed to essentially make a mockery of WP:V and ignore sources at will. The stupidity behind this is staggering, and is the primary reason for my short fuse on this talkpage. Instead of determining the WP:NPOV on the basis of actual sources, the inane personal views of involved users were taken into account.
To put it simply: if the sources say the chetniks collaborated - the Chetniks collaborated. Call me arrogant, but my powers of diplomacy have long been expended in this matter: Fkp is dead wrong, I am right. He "personally disagrees" with the sources, he "refuses to agree"? All I can do is play a sombre tune for him on the world's smallest violin. :). --DIREKTOR (TALK) 15:23, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Article protection
Hope I'm not nagging, but if you'll notice the article has not only been sporting the sock's version all this time, but is also continuously being edited by the SPA. Now, while I'm sure the SPA could not care less about a block or 3RR (those being the benefits of sockpuppeteering), this should not be used as a tool for pushing edits through. I could edit war now, and of course get blocked, if that's what it will take to protect the article, but I'm kind of hoping that won't be necessary to help you enforce an end to edit-pushing and restore the sourced version. :) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 17:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have protected the article for a week and blocked him for a week. As for him being a sock, if you think you know who's sock it is, make an SPI. You may well be right but SPA does not of itself equal sock. Fainites barleyscribs 23:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)