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:''As the author of the story on Wikipedia, I was a little supprised that it was deleted. It complied with wikipedia's natability critria (Significant coverage by multiple Reliable Secondary Sources Independent of the subject). But to have a news.com.au page written about my little article? Brilliant! For those that will doubt that this is the "Real" fosnez, I will also post this comment on my talk page on wikipedia. If you would like to discuss this article further, please contact me here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fosnez'' |
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So there you have it! [[User:Fosnez|Fosnez]] ([[User talk:Fosnez#top|talk]]) 07:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC) |
So there you have it! [[User:Fosnez|Fosnez]] ([[User talk:Fosnez#top|talk]]) 07:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==Courtesy blanking== |
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Hi Foznez. Sorry, but I will not unblank. I have made my feelings known about writing about minors at the AfD and I feel this blanking is justified. Now that he has been charged, even news sources have stopped using his name and blanking his face. If you want it unblanked best to raise it at [[WP:AN/I]]. Once again, sorry. Cheers, [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]]\<sup>[[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]</sup> 07:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Using original names for geological features?
Just received and read your note regarding my use of original names in preference to official names (Queensland names register)..
As you have noted, I am keen and fairly committed to create articles within Wikipedia referring to geological features of the North Queensland region by their original names, the first of which was that freestanding monolith and tabletop mountaion, Ngarrabullgan.. followed by the others you've identified ..
You will note that with the clear exception of 'Lake Eacham/Yidyam' I found there was NOT any pre-existing entry for the actual geological features .. eg their was no pre-existing entry for the mountain (Ngarrabullgan), no prexisting entry for the laks (Ngimun (Lake Eurtamo), and regarding Gabar (Fitzroy Island), there was an entry for the National Park/Protected Area, but none for the geological feature/island itself (there was rather a simple redirect for anyone searching for Fitroy Island)..
In all instances I have referenced the source of the original name, plus I have included links to the official Queensland place names list .. there was no harm meant or intended .. rather I have started working on Wikianthropology project documenting cultural landscapes of north-east Queenslnad .. and all the places named are significant both within mythology and for the antiquity of those myths ....In all cases anyone doing a search under the conventional name will find themselves at the relevant article/pages?!!
The pre-existing Lake Eacham entry was in large part a recreational/tourist blurb about the lake with a link to the caravan/village within it's vicinity .. and, on investigating it's name, the Queensland place name's list itself described the name (which I think was also recorded by Meston in the 1890's) as being an anglosizing of the original Aboriginal .. thus I thought the shift justified, knowing anyone doing a search would still end up in the same place ..
Apologies for the length of this reply .. but, in the end, should the above practice be considered to offend Wiki naming conventions/practices .. and should you find it offensive .. perhaps I(?)/we could use a version of Queensland National Parks emergent (re)naming practice and shift to articles labelled Ngarrabullgan (Mount Mulligan), Queensland; Ngimun (Lake Euramo), Queensland; Yidyam (Lake Eacham), Quenesland .. Gabar (Fitroy Island) .. or, perhaps, vice versa ie Mount Mulligan (Ngarrabullgan), Lake Euramo (Ngimun) etc ... Please, let me make agreed/agreeable changes immediately upon receiving your advice/ feedback? With good cheer and thanx Bruceanthro (talk) 03:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I've now started moving, then editing in the manner you suggest, though, perhaps I might leave Ngarrabullgan asit is, as there is already a Mount Mulligan on Wikipedia, being the township?? I hope the last (relating to largest of these cultural landscape contributions) is acceptable .. noting the Mountain is known as Ngarrabullgan within the international archaeological literature etc?! I'll await your further comment before moving the last .. using the move tag of course!! Bruceanthro (talk) 06:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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Closing AfD within less than an hour???
Only three people commented on the AfD, and within 45 minutes you close it as WP:SNOW What is going on here?
The AfD hadn't been running for nearly long enough to get even something approaching a consensus, still less had it been running for long enough to form a considered opinion as to whether it was WP:SNOW.
Mayalld (talk) 14:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Greetings,
- WP:SNOW is there to stop a process that is obviously going to fail. I included in the closure my rational (the fact the the encylopedia britannica has an article) and after closing the AfD I proceeded to address the concernes that were innitially raised in the AfD (Mainly the lack of sources). I hope this is helps? Fosnez (talk) 15:04, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know what WP:SNOW is about. I also know that it is patent nonsense to imagine that you can declare it 45 minutes into a 5 day discussion after three people have joined in the discussion. Your rationale is not a rationale for closing the debate. Rather it is a rationale that you might wish to put forward as a keep argument, and which others might wish to argue against. The sources that you added are actually press releases from the organisation, and consequently don't count as 3rd-party sources.
- I have relisted the article. If after the AfD has run for a non-trivial time there is an overwhelming consensus one way or another, then by all means, close it WP:SNOW, but that sure as hell won't be after 45 minutes and 3 comments.
- This was rash. WP:DP#NAC is for non-controversial closes. All you did was force someone to start another process instead of allowing this one to show clear consensus. I don't think there was any risk that the article would be deleted. --Dhartung | Talk 20:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Greetings, with all due respect, you really shot your own argument in the foot about my actions "being rash", to quote your comment on my talk page:
- I don't think there was any risk that the article would be deleted
- and now to quote from WP:SNOW:
- If an issue doesn't even have a snowball's chance in hell of getting an unexpected outcome from a certain process, then there is no need to run it through that process.
- As you have so well pointed out, the articles had a snowballs'c chance in hell of being deleted, so the process did not need to be run, the fact that the nominator started another process, instead of reopening the original AfD, is neither my, nor your problem. This has been an application of the Snowball test and I have been vilified by at least two ([1] [2]) other editors that felt the same way. As said above, this is said with respect, my actions were not rash, but were rather well within my rights, as the nominator was well within their rights to reopen the AfD after I closed it. Fosnez (talk) 20:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, relax, this isn't personal. You say you're "well within your right", but AFD isn't editing and you should give more weight to achieving consensus. As an instructive example, TenPound Hammer is an editor I generally like, but he was closing AFDs based on SNOW right and left late last year, many of which ended up on Deletion Review. See here and here for some of the pushback he got and take it into consideration. The "right" as you put it for non-admins to close AFDs should be exercised lightly and rarely. I do it whenever it seems likely to save somebody some work. I would never do it where a dispute might arise and I strongly recommend you use similar restraint. --Dhartung | Talk 02:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Greetings, with all due respect, you really shot your own argument in the foot about my actions "being rash", to quote your comment on my talk page:
Please see WP:RS.
In the deletion discussion for The End of the World (animation) every single source you cited was unreliable. Per WP:Don't template the regulars, I don't want to lecture you on basic Wikipedia guidelines because you're a veteran editor. However, it's important you realize what they mean. This kind of behavior seems to come from the Rescue Squadron often. While protecting good articles is a good thing, this policy is only makes sense if you can back it up with WP:RS and WP:V. The existence of a number of random hits on Google does not constitute WP:RS or WP:V. See WP:GOOGLE. Zenwhat (talk) 03:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Firstly I would like to thankyou for not templating me :-) Anyway, yes I am fully aware of what reliable sources are, and often add them to articles. This is why I didn't add them to the article, but rather left them on the AfD for discussion. I actually meant to leave a comment not a keep, but I forgot to change it - I have now. Establishing notability for Mimes is always hard because they are very rarely covered by "traditional" media - and if they are it is usually trivial - eventhough they may infact be notable due to their impact on "web culture" - lolcats would be an example of this.
- Regarding your second comment about seeing issues with how members of the Rescue squadron source articles. If you can provide examples please do so on the project's talk page - we are a newish project, so some users may not be following proper procedure - we need to nip this in the butt to prevent the project from getting a tarnished name. The proejct has done some good work and with support from the rest of the community we will continue to do so. Once again, thankyou for your comments. Fosnez (talk) 04:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Corey Delaney
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Corey Delaney AfD
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Corey Delaney. Since you are interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Benjiboi 22:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
New.com.au article on the deletion of Corey Delaney
My comment on the News.com.au article:
- As the author of the story on Wikipedia, I was a little supprised that it was deleted. It complied with wikipedia's natability critria (Significant coverage by multiple Reliable Secondary Sources Independent of the subject). But to have a news.com.au page written about my little article? Brilliant! For those that will doubt that this is the "Real" fosnez, I will also post this comment on my talk page on wikipedia. If you would like to discuss this article further, please contact me here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fosnez
So there you have it! Fosnez (talk) 07:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Courtesy blanking
Hi Foznez. Sorry, but I will not unblank. I have made my feelings known about writing about minors at the AfD and I feel this blanking is justified. Now that he has been charged, even news sources have stopped using his name and blanking his face. If you want it unblanked best to raise it at WP:AN/I. Once again, sorry. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 07:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)