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2 German film articles
Hi Lugnuts: Interesting situation here. So far as I can determine, on the same day, 26 January 2008, you created two articles on German silent films that are in fact the same film: In the Ecstasy of Billions and Dance on the Volcano. Both articles are about Part 2 of a two-parter that is known in German as both Der Fluch der Menschheit (The Curse of Man, created by you on 25 January 2008, but that article is only about Part 1) and Der Tanz auf dem Vulkan. Part 2 is known both as Im Rausche der Milliarden and Der Tod des Großfürsten and Part 1 is known both as Die Tochter der Arbeit and Sybil Young (see German version of Bela Lugosi filmography). At least Part 2 is double-entered at IMDb: Der Fluch der Menschheit -2 and Der Fluch der Menschheit - 2. Im Rausche der Milliarden. There is also a 1938 film called [Der] Tanz auf dem Vulkan, which is what I was expecting when the link turned out to be blue: de:Tanz auf dem Vulkan. Since you created both the articles on Part 2 (and the article on Part 1), what do you think had better be done? My suggestion would be: merge the two Part 2 articles at In the Ecstasy of Billions, which has better sourcing, and I think it ought to be moved to the German title. Create an article on Tanz auf dem Vulkan. Move The Curse of Man to one of the two titles by which Part 1 goes, and make a stub at The Curse of Man on the entire two-parter, giving the alternate title Der Tanz auf dem Vulkan there - then provide a hatnote at the article on the 1938 film pointing to that stub for those seeking the 1920 two-parter or one of its parts (it looks as if Dance on the Volcano was also used in the US for just one of the parts). Do you have a better plan? Yngvadottir (talk) 17:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I'll implement that plan when I have a bit more time than I do today. The 1938 film will be at Tanz auf dem Vulkan (1938) for clarity and because IMDb shows tv movies with the same title, so it should probably become a DAB page. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:38, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm done with it, I promise . Nominated it for DYK. Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 09:47, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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RE:Stig Mårtensson
Yes, I've noticed it too. The Davis cup site has his birth date as 1913 not 1923. Although they could be different persons but what is usual and I came across such errors many times is that the pre-WW people birth dates are very uncertain. I really doubt that two socially high classed (an era-specific must) Swedish persons existed who competed in international sports and also can not be related (they couldn't be brothers - same name, couldn't be father-son - 10 years age difference). These people were multi-talented so to say and one all-round sportman practised many types of activity. So I bet it's the same person but I couldn't dig out any more - as of yet. Lajbi Holla @ me • CP 14:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
The last touch
I swear I will never understand this strange habit of doing your strength for the last change in the pages that you followed (including through the edit completely useless). I do not know if it is forbidden by netiquette and above all do not give me a damn, the rest are so many things we do not understand a this world.;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 10:19, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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For me it is always a pleasure to contribute to a fruitful editing with a collaborative person like you. Have a nice day. --Mauro Lanari (talk) 13:56, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Keep up the awesome work
Hey - thank you for filling in so many outstanding Essex redlinks - only 35 FC redlinks to go, by my count! Bobo. 23:35, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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In theory, all of the first-class redlinks for all the teams are there - up to around 2007-08. Most of those other lists in different userspaces were very hastily cobbled together and therefore won't make any sense. Bobo. 09:19, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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Just to check - are the years the first and last years in which they appeared in any "major cricket" matches? I'm assuming by that I mean First-class and List A matches. Bobo. 12:01, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- Sure - I'm pretty sure they are, just saw that the years were incomplete, seems like a task I can work on this weekend when I have a lot more free time! Awesome to see how few Essex redlinks there are remaining - just 17 by my count. 13 from Glamorgan, but still a fair 199 from Gloucestershire, over 250 from Middlesex... Bobo. 12:10, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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Politics and ITN
Hi! Just a polite request, could you try and keep your personal politics out off the ITN nomination process? I'm referring to the Bradley Manning discussion. Your personal opinion that he is a traitor (which he obviously isn't, but I digress) is not relevant for the case at hand, and is indeed counter-productive. Would you oppose mention of all people you find unsavoury? I trust you see my point..... Thank you, and good editing! Fgf10 (talk) 15:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Lugnuts, sorry I did something before asking you and I undid that revision so I can tell you first. An article with title Fifty Shades of Grey (film) was already exist since May 14 but User:The Vintage Feminist created Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film) lately on August 12. Can you merge the history or ask someone to do it please, because I've seen this that already existed articles history been merged into lately created. Examples are my moved articles like Left Behind (2014 film), histories in those articles were merged, thanks. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 03:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Extra note about this.
- Fifty Shades of Grey (film) used to link to the #Film adaptation section of Fifty Shades of Grey (an article about the novel).
- I created a daughter article from that section which became Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film).
- User:Captain Assassin! sent me this message (which he has since edited) saying that the article already exists as Fifty Shades of Grey (film).
- I placed a "main article" hat note in the original Fifty Shades of Grey#Film adaptation section.
- I checked to make sure that Fifty Shades of Grey (film) redirects to Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film).
- The only problem with the Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film) article that I can see now is the talk page for the article seems to have gone from Fortdj33's last revision to now being completely blank.
- I'm not sure that there is anything useful in the history of Fifty Shades of Grey (film) that needs to merge into Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film)'s history, and I didn't think it would be possible to extract the film adaptation section's history from the novel's article (which I think is what Captain Assassin! is actually after).
- I hope this is useful.--The Vintage Feminist (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- You didn't understood the situation The Vintage Feminist here, I'm saying that the Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film)'s history should be merged into Fifty Shades of Grey (film) and not novel's history please. And Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film) should be redirect to Fifty Shades of Grey (film) because it was existed when you created the other one with year in title. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 07:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- A user User talk:Betty Logan is tagging the article with CSD now, what's that?. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 07:28, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- This is wrong now, huh. Article was existed and Betty Logan is making it removed again and again. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 07:42, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- You can see now Lugnuts that he has removed the article first created and now all history is gone. What is wrong with all people, it just happened with me before with Rusted AutoParts. Now you know that every thing went wrong because of Logan, I was just trying to do good. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 07:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have examples for this what Rusted AutoParts did to me previously, as also wrote in history of articles that I'm taking it back what's mine or I'm taking my credit back etc. So I can have what I created and I was going to create that article. So please fix it, should I copy from article with 2014 in title. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 07:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Lugnuts, would you please do me a huge favor and instruct this muppet not to interfere with page moves. He turned a straightforward procedure into an absolute clusterfuck today. Fifty Shades of Grey (film) was and always has been a redirect. A new article was created by User:The Vintage Feminist at Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film) on August 12. Yesterday, User:Captain Assassin! carried out a cut paste move by copying all the content from Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film) to Fifty Shades of Grey (film) so I reverted it. As per WP:NCF#Disambiguation the article should indeed be at Fifty Shades of Grey (film) (so he at least got that part right), so I nominated the redirect at Fifty Shades of Grey (film) for deletion under G6, so Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film) could be article moved to Fifty Shades of Grey (film). This tool went and recreated the article so the move couldn't go ahead. I therefore nominated it a second time, only for him to remove the deletion notice and turn it back into a redirect. Thankfully User:Bgwhite stepped in and moved the article to where it should be, but please please please tell Captain Assassin not to carry out "cut and paste" moves, and that it is not necessary to carry out a history merge on a page that has only ever been a redirect! Betty Logan (talk) 08:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- But it was a redirect so anyone can copy the contents in it, which already happened with me. I'm telling you again and again that I copied it first but then I undid it by myself, I told Lugnuts this in start. And then you jumped in and made a mess all of it. If it is a policy where was that when I created A Million Ways to Die in the West, it was just a redirect before. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 08:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- You didn't create an article, you created a redirect at Fifty Shades of Grey (film) a few months ago. User:The Vintage Feminist created the article in her userspace (as can be clearly seen from the edit history), and then moved it to Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film). By cutting and pasting her work that effectively removes her authorship, which is legally and ethically wrong. The correct procedure was to delete your page-hogging redirect and move her article to the right page, as a I explained in the edit summaries, on my own talk page and at the Film project talk page. Betty Logan (talk) 08:28, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- But as I told you can see Transcendence (2014 film), which I created at my userspace was taken by Rusted AutoParts by just copying my contents from my userspace, what was that then, huh? Was that a policy here? Policy goes in this way that if redirect is existed then just copy the contents in it, no need to create another article. It's what I was told in that time, so where are those policies now or where were these policies then? I'm just so much messed up now, you have done wrong by the way. You should have just put the contents in the redirect as it happens already. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 08:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't give a shit what is going on between you and User:Rusted Auto Parts. What I care about is that you tried to seize the authorship of someone else's work and that is unacceptable. She wrote the article, you didn't, so she takes the credit. If someone else has done this to you then raise the issue at the Film project and we will look into it, but no more cut & paste moves! Betty Logan (talk) 08:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- Alright, see you next time but this is all wrong. I created the Transcendence (2014 film) which Rusted AutoParts took the credit. Where were you that time? -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 09:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't give a shit what is going on between you and User:Rusted Auto Parts. What I care about is that you tried to seize the authorship of someone else's work and that is unacceptable. She wrote the article, you didn't, so she takes the credit. If someone else has done this to you then raise the issue at the Film project and we will look into it, but no more cut & paste moves! Betty Logan (talk) 08:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- But as I told you can see Transcendence (2014 film), which I created at my userspace was taken by Rusted AutoParts by just copying my contents from my userspace, what was that then, huh? Was that a policy here? Policy goes in this way that if redirect is existed then just copy the contents in it, no need to create another article. It's what I was told in that time, so where are those policies now or where were these policies then? I'm just so much messed up now, you have done wrong by the way. You should have just put the contents in the redirect as it happens already. -- Assassin! No, Captain Assassin! ( T - C - G ) 08:49, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- You didn't create an article, you created a redirect at Fifty Shades of Grey (film) a few months ago. User:The Vintage Feminist created the article in her userspace (as can be clearly seen from the edit history), and then moved it to Fifty Shades of Grey (2014 film). By cutting and pasting her work that effectively removes her authorship, which is legally and ethically wrong. The correct procedure was to delete your page-hogging redirect and move her article to the right page, as a I explained in the edit summaries, on my own talk page and at the Film project talk page. Betty Logan (talk) 08:28, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Assassin, considering the monumental mess you've made previously regarding moves, merges and redirects, do you not think that you should back off now while the going is good? So far no one has dragged you back to ANI for doing what you were told not to do before, but I wouldn't keep winding people up needlessly, or that is exactly what will happen to you again. I strongly advise you to drop the stick, slink off and try and do something more constructive... - SchroCat (talk) 10:43, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm GhunwI'. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, The Finishers, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. reH ghun ghunwI' 19:18, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Lugnuts, I believe you may be misquoting or misunderstanding WP:SAL. It's certainly not true that every item in every list needs to meet WP:N. That's simply one of the common selection criteria. Those criteria can be helpful for lists not about a finite set of things, such as List of individual dogs, though note that that list doesn't meet either of the common selection criteria listed at SAL; some of the dogs have articles, while many others never will. Your interpretation, at least, directly contradicts WP:NLISTITEM. Do you believe all song lists, or all song lists including songs that don't themselves meet N, should be deleted? By the arguments you've advanced at several recent AfDs, it would seem you'd want to have some featured lists deleted as well. --BDD (talk) 19:20, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
The article Tyrannens fald has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Unreferenced in addition to not making serious claims to WP:NFILM
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Lists
Not often you and I find ourselves on opposite sides of an AFD!! I understand your way of thinking with the lists, and a lot of lists do appear to be pure cruft on here, I tried to delete Pokemon and manga list cruft a while back and encountered a strong resistance to deletion. However, lists like this are generally widely accepted on here and even encouraged. The Lata list though is sort of like the Indian equivalent to List of Beatles songs or List of Elvis Presley songs. OK, most of Lata's songs are not as famous as any of their songs in the west, but all of the songs don't need to be really notable in their own right to be included in the list and a complete list of works by subjects is encouraged in the guidelines on here for comprehension's sake. I agree that the lists need a lot of work to become "encyclopedic" though but I'm convinced that deletion at least for Lata and Kumar isn't the best way to go about improving things. Anyway, I've improved The Mountain Eagle!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:46, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Well I've invited a few people to help improve the Lata list at least, so hopefully something will come of it! I understand you see AFD as a sort of "clean up the crap" thing, but at least it's not a List of Hindi films featuring bubble gum or List of Tamil films featuring songs about taxi drivers sort of thing!..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Christopher Miles (Director)
Hi Lugnuts, I am new to this. I added a couple of links to the director Christopher Miles own website as an external link on two of the films he directed which I notice you have reverted. Is this against the guidelines? Merlin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin Energy (talk • contribs) 13:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
More of the same
Comments like this just prove my point about your incivility, especially when you make a personal comment directed at me, that has nothing to do with the topic of the discussion. Fortdj33 (talk) 12:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Solomon7968. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs recorded by Udit Narayan that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. SL7968 18:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)