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Thank you for approving it. In the case of the one recreated article, I'm assuming I should revert my adding of {{tl|oldprodfull}} on its talk page?--[[User:Rockfang|Rockfang]] ([[User talk:Rockfang|talk]]) 02:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
Thank you for approving it. In the case of the one recreated article, I'm assuming I should revert my adding of {{tl|oldprodfull}} on its talk page?--[[User:Rockfang|Rockfang]] ([[User talk:Rockfang|talk]]) 02:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:No. It was contested and then eventually deleted at AfD, so the template can probably stay. --[[User:ST47|uǝʌǝs]][[User talk:ST47|ʎʇɹoɟ]][[Special:Contributions/ST47|ʇs]]<small>(st47)</small> 02:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
:No. It was contested and then eventually deleted at AfD, so the template can probably stay. --[[User:ST47|uǝʌǝs]][[User talk:ST47|ʎʇɹoɟ]][[Special:Contributions/ST47|ʇs]]<small>(st47)</small> 02:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== re protection of [[User talk:Docmartincohen]] == |
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I have been contacted off-Wiki (obviously) by the above editor. He comments that after he was blocked his unblock request was denied by [[User:Phil Sandifer]], and that he and Phil Sandifer were already in content dispute. He contacted me as I was involved in a discussion with Phil Sandifer at WP:ANI where we discussed Docmartincohen, where the result was that he was blocked - for socking in that instance, although the original discussion was regarding COI. |
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Docmartincohen has asked me if the protection could be lifted so that he may request review of the original block, and have it reviewed by somebody he was not previously involved with. Under the circumstances I have said I would ask you to review the matter (and that I would inform Phil Sandifer of my action). Since I am certainly aware that Phil Sandifer was requesting advice regarding editing by Docmartincohen and I am certain he would prefer that all processes appear to be as neutrally reviewed as they most assuredly were, I would ask you to consider lifting the protection of the page to allow Docmartincohen another block review request. If you wish, I could do the necessary unprotect. I shall watch this page for your reply. [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] ([[User talk:LessHeard vanU|talk]]) 20:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC) |
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How can I get the "Hall Hunt" page posted again?Hey. My name is Hall Hunt. There was a page about me that was deleted earlier this month. I just noticed that it was deleted. I don't know anything about publishing anything about Wikipedia except for looking articles up, so I am amazed that I even found this page to ask you the question. How can I get the page back up? I think it said said something about plagerizm. I didn't create the page to begin with, but rather I think it was an organization I am a part of. Maybe they plagerized there other webpage or something. I am not sure. The bottom line is I would be willing to do anything I need to so the page can be posted again. Please let me know what, if anything I can do. I guess you usually post responses here, so I will check back. Otherwise just email me at HallHunt@comcast.net . Thank you very much! ;o) 67.129.185.89 (talk) 23:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC) Hall Hunt
Tell your bot thanks......I totally forgot to add a license to it. Thanks =D <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Friendly adviceHi, just a couple of friendly words, because I'm worried that you may be rubbing some editors the wrong way, and potentially scaring them off from Wikipedia. I think it would be very helpful if both you and your bot provided a little more information about what Wikipedia, and your bot, expect to find at a non-free image page - and to let editors know what it is they've missed out from their rationale. It is clear from your comments on your talk page that a number of editors feel their images already satisfy the requirements, and that the template messages left by the bot have not made it clear if, or why, this is not the case. Your first replies rarely help them to understand why they are in error; in some cases ("Stop being stupid and fix your image") they are downright rude - especially coming from an administrator. I'm not sure of the mechanics of your bot, but I suspect you would reduce the number of irate posts to your talk page if your bot's message gave the user clearer instructions, which could perhaps be made more specific according to which of the bot's rules was broken. I'd suggest something along the lines of:
Also, please do read template messages you post on user pages, check they're appropriate (you recently tagged my burgeoning talk page with a message saying "Welcome to Wikipedia!" when a quick glance would have shown you that I'm not exactly new to the site, which didn't exactly make a great first impression) and check that they provide the editor with a clear "next step" through the complex copyright mire. I usually find that editors are more willing to spend their time doing things, such as providing a fair use rationale, if I take a couple of seconds to speak to them helpfully rather than just bombarding them with unhelpful templates. I hope that that will help to engage editors a little more in the copyright process and encourage them to improve rationales, rather than thinking "sod it, it's not worth it", and leaving useful images to get deleted unnecessarily. Besides, I'm sure you get pretty frustrated wasting your time messaging people telling them why your bot was right and they were wrong - which is clearly the case in the majority of instances! I hope that a more helpful bot message would reduce the number of people requiring such a response. Anyway, I hope that's of some use. Smith609 Talk 08:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Aubrey Gibson image and your botWell, I guess I'm one of the users the subject of the discussion above. An average user, average editor and - I thought until now - diligent reader of wikipolicies as required. The difficulty with your response just above is that I can't see what your bot saw. Some time back I uploaded an image - Image:AubreyGibsonRosebowlJacket2.JPG - for use in an article I created. It has just been tagged by your bot. Fair enough. Now, if I've read the policies correctly, the justification I've given for the use of the image is adequate. However, I took the point that maybe I've put the justification in the wrong location on the image page. I confess it's a while since I've uploaded an image, so I tried to edit the image info page - and this reminded me that the process is semi-automated. I couldn't work out how to shift the justification for use from its current location to a location next to the link to the particular article (and only article) in which the image is used. I'm taking the tag off, not to be difficult, but because (a) as far as I can see I've complied with WP policy, but more to the point (b) at the moment I'm only visiting the site every couple of weeks and the bot / WP / whatever is only giving me 7 days warning. I'm sure you'll set me on the right track. I have the fish, thanks, but my problem is not understanding your bot's message but in successfully responding to it. Cheers hamiltonstone (talk) 11:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC) Fix your bot - restored sectionPer [1]. Since you didn't answer, I'm going to ask one more time; please direct me to the 'machine readable' policy on en. Furthermore, how does this affect Image:BanqiaoDamAfterFailure.jpg (hint, it already had a {{Non-free fair use in|Banqiao Dam}} tag and was therefore machine readable). Let's be really clear here: this image is classic fair-use. It had a rationale. Your bot tagged it because it didn't have a particular template. There is no requirement that this particular template be used on fair-use images. Instead of admitting that you are a lazy bot writer, you first blame the image, then me, then some 'machine readable' policy that makes no difference since the image page already had a machine readable tag. This was a difficult image to find, and it should not be deleted every couple of years because some bot writer all of the sudden decides there's a particular template that must be used. If you want this image to use a specific template for fair-use, go ahead and add it. Otherwise revert your edit and fix your bot. --Duk 12:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC) PS. Please show me where your bot was approved to mark for deletion fair-use images With a rationale. --Duk 13:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Edits to flag templatesHi, when you remove images from flag templates such as Template:Country data Réunion, please replace the image with a placeholder instead of nothing. Image:Sin bandera.svg is usually used for this sort of thing. As it is, your change effectively breaks every page that transcludes that template with the STBotI blockedAfter reading Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline again, I see that Image:BanqiaoDamAfterFailure.jpg contained both the copyright tag a specific fair use rationale as required. Your bot tagged it for deletion anyway. When this was brought to your attention, you failed to acknowledge the bot's error and attacked myself and the rationale instead. This is unacceptable. I looked at STBotI's last seventeen edits. It failed to recognize three existing fair-use rationales [2] [3] [4]. Another edit added This image or media is claimed to be used under Wikipedia's policy for non-free content... when the image made no such claim [5]. That's an unacceptable error rate so STBotI has been blocked. To fix this, I'd suggest a) searching the image page for key words that would indicate a rationale, or b) propose at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline that {{Template:Non-free use rationale}} be required to aid bot work. Didn't think about how to fix the last error, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. It is not acceptable for your bot to make these errors, but it's even worse when you refuse to acknowledge the errors and attack the messenger or the rationale instead. And it's sure as hell not acceptable for your bot to evaluate the validity of a fair use clam. I'm not unsympathetic to your work, having processed thousands of copyright violations (before you made your first edit) and done automated work myself. I know what you have to do to fix this and that it isn't very hard. Sofixit. --Duk 18:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Just want to point out that the argument 'some of these rationales aren't sufficient' doesn't fly. A bot may not judge the quality of a fair use rationale. If it is a poor rationale and the bot misses it, I will re-block the bot. This isn't about how good the rationale is, it's about the bot working or not--Duk 22:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Error with Bot/WP/EN/ST47/BLPWatchBot/1.2Bot/WP/EN/ST47/BLPWatchBot/1.2 needs to be logged in! BLPWatchBot (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC) Courtesy pingWikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#STBotI --Duk 23:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC) STBotI blocked againI've blocked this bot again. Its accuracy is horrible. It tagged the following images for deletion for not having a fair use rationale, when in fact they did have a rationale [8] [9] [10]. The final link should have been tagged orphaned fair use, not lacking a fair use rationale. How did this bot ever get approved? --Duk Vandalism alertYou have been paged because a user has reported a high level of vandalism and you are listed as a contact. This is an automatically generated message. If problems occur, please contact User:nathanww. Your userpageCome on ST47, I know you're obviously annoyed about the whole situation with Duk, but calling him an idiot on your userpage isn't helping anyone. I've removed it and I think the best thing to do would be to have a short break, think about things and you might be in a better frame of mind when you return. Everyone gets stressed here - things will get better soon. Take care, Ryan Postlethwaite 18:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Please come backST47, you are a vital part of this community and a respected member to at least me. Please consider taking a couple days off and returning refreshed to continue this great endeavor. MBisanz talk 22:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Hopefully this cheers you up...
Wikipedia bannerHi, please can you tell me where I can now find this? Robert C Prenic (talk) 14:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Here...No!!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Welcome backI'm glad to see you're back; I hope you enjoyed you wikibreak. Cheers, —paranomiahappy harry's high club 22:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Why was GrandLuxe Rail Deleted? Really makes no sense.Ok, so I want to know why my new page was deleted by your bot for "implausable typo". Makes no sense. I thought Wikipedia wanted to encourage contributions from newcomers...looks like you want to scare us off. Please reinstate. --User3232 (talk) 17:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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Bot to mass-undelete "orphaned talk page redirect"Thanks for stepping up to the plate on this one. I've replied over on WP:ANI. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC) See also: Wikipedia:Bot requests#Bot to mass-revert a specific list of deletions. I invited people there to talk about it on the ANI page. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I mentioned this at User talk:AGK#RfArbitration, so I thought I should let you know. Carcharoth (talk) 07:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC) BAGBotHey. I know that you did mention to me a few weeks ago that you would send me the code to BAGBot (both on-wiki and IRC versions), was this so I could take over the running of BAGBot or just for backup purposes? I just didn't really understand at the time. Please clarify, thanks. — E ↗TCB 02:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Can you possibly re-delete this? If any opera project pages are deleted in error we will see them. This one was not deleted by mistake. Thanks. --Kleinzach 23:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm very confused on why anyone would want to delete the talk page archive redirects. The page move to rename the archives was in July 2007 and some had existed a year before that. Redirects are cheap, and we have no real way to track off-site linking. -- Ned Scott 05:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Is the restorebot paused?It's been well over 16 hours since I last checked the process of the deledted-redirect-restorebot and it seems to have stalled. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 19:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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ArmorGamesHi, One of your bots deleted the page I created on ArmorGames. It said that this was because the page had been created and deleted before. I had quite a bit of information on that page. Could you provide me with a copy? Is it possible to undelete it? Thanks KingRyanV —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingryanv (talk • contribs) 08:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Signpost updated for June 9, 2008.
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Error with Bot/WP/EN/ST47/STBotI/1.2Bot/WP/EN/ST47/STBotI/1.2 needs to be logged in! 91.198.174.201 (talk) 13:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC) WQJJ-LP Inaccuracies caused by your "Huggle" botHi. I am the general manager of WQJJ-LP and certain inaccuracies have been brought to my attention by one of our listeners. Several of the discrepancies I have been able to correct but, your "Huggle" bot refuses to allow me to include the (true) information that states: WQJJ-LP is the only FM radio station licensed to Jasper that actually maintains a local studio and operates as a "Live and Local" radio station." What's with this? (Sorry, I'm NOT a wikipedian but, as the station manager, I think that I should know the facts about my business.) Thanks in advance. 74.239.244.158 (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC) Now, I see that (while I was writing you this message) you've managed to label my factual edit as "vandalism". how is it that facts are "vandalism"? If we cannot get the facts correctly labeled, I'd prefer not to have a business that I *own* listed on wikipedia. Must I have a lawyer do this?
Thanks for understanding. 74.239.244.158 (talk) 01:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
More WQJJ-LP Inaccuracies caused by your "Huggle" botI am almost at wit's end in dealing with your bot. Can you PLEASE help me make this article reflect the correct information? It's referring people to an old (outdated) website and the information is reflecting what the radio staion WAS several month back. I can assure you that it is no longer accurate as I'm sitting inside the station now and it is anything but "silent" as the listing claims. (Such inaccurate claims can also cause us problems with the FCC should someone see it and choose to become a troublemaker.) I've made all of the appropriate edits but, your bot continues to label my efforts as "vandalism" and to issue all of the accompanying warnings and threats. I can assure you that I am the station owner and, if you wish to verify these claims, you may contact me at (205) 384-6498 which is listed with AT&T as "WQJJ" which *is* the radio station about which this article so inaccurately describes. Thanks in advance (again), --74.239.244.158 (talk) 01:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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Dude....Slow down and stop stealing all my reverts. K? Thanks. :P KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 01:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
More reverting legitimate edits with HuggleFrom the revisions page of PA Consulting Group, I note the following revision by you. This removed two perfectly legitimate edits unconnected with the edit by Kubanczyk. Please stop doing this sort of thing. Turn the bot off if you cannot get it to work properly.
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re protection of User talk:DocmartincohenI have been contacted off-Wiki (obviously) by the above editor. He comments that after he was blocked his unblock request was denied by User:Phil Sandifer, and that he and Phil Sandifer were already in content dispute. He contacted me as I was involved in a discussion with Phil Sandifer at WP:ANI where we discussed Docmartincohen, where the result was that he was blocked - for socking in that instance, although the original discussion was regarding COI. Docmartincohen has asked me if the protection could be lifted so that he may request review of the original block, and have it reviewed by somebody he was not previously involved with. Under the circumstances I have said I would ask you to review the matter (and that I would inform Phil Sandifer of my action). Since I am certainly aware that Phil Sandifer was requesting advice regarding editing by Docmartincohen and I am certain he would prefer that all processes appear to be as neutrally reviewed as they most assuredly were, I would ask you to consider lifting the protection of the page to allow Docmartincohen another block review request. If you wish, I could do the necessary unprotect. I shall watch this page for your reply. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC) |