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I made a mistake taking a wiki-break for a few days, thinking we had our differences sorted out. Then when I saw how you had wrecked the infobox and destroyed it, I could not sit idle any longer. This has nothing to do about POV, this is about simple facts. I will not allow you to ruin the infobox behind my back without talking to me about it. I have left all the constructive edits made to the infobox, only removed the mess and stuff which doesn't belong there. If you want to change the infobox, you will discuss this with me, because I am not backing down. I will continue to revert your edits until I die, or you manage to throw off the Turkish arrogance and come to an agreement.[[User:Kermanshahi|Kermanshahi]] ([[User talk:Kermanshahi|talk]]) 10:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC) |
I made a mistake taking a wiki-break for a few days, thinking we had our differences sorted out. Then when I saw how you had wrecked the infobox and destroyed it, I could not sit idle any longer. This has nothing to do about POV, this is about simple facts. I will not allow you to ruin the infobox behind my back without talking to me about it. I have left all the constructive edits made to the infobox, only removed the mess and stuff which doesn't belong there. If you want to change the infobox, you will discuss this with me, because I am not backing down. I will continue to revert your edits until I die, or you manage to throw off the Turkish arrogance and come to an agreement.[[User:Kermanshahi|Kermanshahi]] ([[User talk:Kermanshahi|talk]]) 10:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC) |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Azerbaijan-Armenia-Iran-Kurdistan-Turkey] --[[User:Khodabandeh14|Khodabandeh14]] ([[User talk:Khodabandeh14|talk]]) 11:37, 10 October 2011 (UTC) |
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- Bu nasıl ? Takabeg (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Kaynak olarak gösterilen yer içeriğini Vikipediden kopyalamış. Adil kullanıma uygun şekilde yerel Vikipedilere yüklenebilir; ama Commons'a yüklenemez. Copyright violation gerekçesiyle sildirebilirsin.--Rapsar (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Sen de orada görüşünü yazarsan iyi olacak. Birde A, B ve Nuri Demirağ NUD-38, çekiliş tarihi 1939 olarak gösteriliyor ama bu uçağın ilk uçuş tarihi 1944 idi. Nasıl çekti 1939 yılında ??? Takabeg (talk) 01:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- O Nikos... resmini de silinmeye aday gösterseydin daha iyi oalcaktı. Türk Deniz Kuvverlerinin logosu ise resmî sitede farklı gösteriliyor. Sadece ortadaki arma var orada. Dediğin gibi ilk başkanı 1949 yılında göreve gelmiş resmî siteye göre; ancak yine de detaylı bir araştırma şart. Birkaç dosyayı birden silinmeye aday göstermişsin, onların gerekçesi de haklı bildiğim kadarıyla. Uçağın yapımı 1941'de tamamlanmış, ilk uçuşunu ise 1944'te yapmış buradaki maddeye göre. Tarihte bir hata var. Yine de eser sahibinin o yıl vefat ettiğini varsaysak dahi süre dolmuş olmuyor. O da silinmeli kanımca.--Rapsar (talk) 07:33, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sen de orada görüşünü yazarsan iyi olacak. Birde A, B ve Nuri Demirağ NUD-38, çekiliş tarihi 1939 olarak gösteriliyor ama bu uçağın ilk uçuş tarihi 1944 idi. Nasıl çekti 1939 yılında ??? Takabeg (talk) 01:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Kaynak olarak gösterilen yer içeriğini Vikipediden kopyalamış. Adil kullanıma uygun şekilde yerel Vikipedilere yüklenebilir; ama Commons'a yüklenemez. Copyright violation gerekçesiyle sildirebilirsin.--Rapsar (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Bu nasıl ? Takabeg (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri'nin resmî sitesinde ve yayımlarında logo (veya benzeri) de kullanılıyor. Diğer logolar ise Türkçe Vikide de İngilize Vikide de non free fair use dosyası olarak yüklenmekte. Mesela fotoğraflarında da görebilirsin. Birde ilk komutanları (1949-)nın sol göğüslerinde bröve bile göremezsin. Takabeg (talk) 07:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Demek istediğim ana sayfa ve oramiral Murta Bilgel'in üzerindeki armaydı. Orijinal arma odur. Onun ne zaman yaratıldığına bakmak gerek.--Rapsar (talk) 14:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Armenian quote
Selam, Filanca. O maddedeki User:Ali55te'nin katkılarını silebilir misiniz ? Belki de faydalı bilgileri de eklemiş olabilir. Fakat biraz acımasızca temizlememiz gerekir ki, kukla olarak tekrar girip propaganda yapmasına izin verileceğini sanmasın. Takabeg (talk) 22:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Merhaba. Maddenin durumu şu an fena değil aslında. Ali55te'ye "ders vermek" için tüm değişikliklerini silmek doğru olur mu emin değilim. Başlagıç kısmını gereksiz, hatta kendi TBA'sını da desteklemeyen bilgilerle doldurmuştu, onları metnin içinde başka kısımlara aktaracağım. Filanca (talk) 10:23, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm. Ben o maddeyi takip etmediğim için dokunmadım. Diğer maddelerdekileri sildim. Kaynakların, özellikle Türkçe kaynaklarının, yanlış kullanıldığı anlaşılıyor. Kullanıcı bunları kasten mi yaptı, yoksa bilmeden mi yaptı, onu bilemiyorum. Bence dikkatli bir şekilde kontrol etmemiz lazım. Mesela burada kendi kafasına göre cümleyi kurduğu anlaşılıyor. Çünkü kaynaktaki bilgilerle uyuşmuyor. Takabeg (talk) 10:32, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
- Merhaba. Maddenin durumu şu an fena değil aslında. Ali55te'ye "ders vermek" için tüm değişikliklerini silmek doğru olur mu emin değilim. Başlagıç kısmını gereksiz, hatta kendi TBA'sını da desteklemeyen bilgilerle doldurmuştu, onları metnin içinde başka kısımlara aktaracağım. Filanca (talk) 10:23, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Cats from Van
Takabeg, I didn't the Armenian wikipedians about this, because I myself don't understand the difference between two. Coul you please explain?? Van Kedisi doesn't reffer to any Turkish wiki article, while Turkish Van refers to Van kedisi in Turkish wiki. What is this?? --Yerevanci (talk) 03:17, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- According to Turkish Wiki, this (all-white, heterochromia) is Van Kedisi, this (white with brown tail) is Turkish Van. Takabeg (talk) 03:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- But what if Van kedisi (all-white, heterochromia) directs to Turkish Wiki article of this cat, which is according to you the Turkish Van?? This is nonsense. --Yerevanci (talk) 14:39, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- In the article tr:Van Kedisi, Turkish Van is referred in the section "Kavram Kargaşası" (confusion of concept). Not only "according to me", in Turkey this is Van Cat. Takabeg (talk) 14:52, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- But what if Van kedisi (all-white, heterochromia) directs to Turkish Wiki article of this cat, which is according to you the Turkish Van?? This is nonsense. --Yerevanci (talk) 14:39, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Directorate of Culture and Tourism of Province of Van, Ministry of Culture and Tourism. Takabeg (talk) 14:57, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- No, I didn't say it's only according to you. Anyway, I'm confused.--Yerevanci (talk) 16:00, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Opinion
Hi Takabeg,
I am very fine thank you. How are you? I am glad that you are quite active on wikipedia. You asked my opinion about editing of the socks and I provided my opinion which is grounded in Wikipedia:Sock puppetry policy. If you think I am wrong about something, please let me know.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:05, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your interest. Takabeg (talk) 08:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Türkiye'de arkeoloji
- Selam Takabeg. tr:Türkiye'de arkeoloji maddesindeki telif ihlali tespit ettiğim yerleri çıkardım. Kalan kısımlarda telif var mı? Şu an maddede bulunan telif ihlal linki çalışmıyor başka kaynaklardan baktım telif durumuna.--Reality006 (talk) 20:14, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Evet o link açmıyor. Büyük ihtimalle http://edebiyat.karabuk.edu.tr/arkeoloji/ sayfasındaki "tanıtım slaytı". Takabeg (talk) 21:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Same view
Dear User:Takabeg.It is good that we share the same views about Pahlavi clan.--Orartu (talk) 20:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- We don't share [1] Takabeg (talk) 21:43, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- But look at here[2].Orartu (talk) 12:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Bu ne ? Takabeg (talk) 10:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Nesi ne?--Rapsar (talk) 11:52, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Çorlu, "There is a Jewish community"?
Please elaborate more on the Jewish Community that you have added to the Çorlu article—i.e. when were they active? are they still in existence? etc. --Infestor (talk) 14:36, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- About Çorlu, most of Jews moved to Istanbul in 1934. I'll enriched with info about Jewish communities. I roughly added info for a kind of Necessity. Otherwise some users removed/will remove category. Takabeg (talk) 14:41, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
İzmir
Selam!
Burdaki sorunuza cevap!
Bence sadece 15 Mayıs olarak kalsın çünkü madde İzmir'e Yunanlıların o gün yaptığı çıkarmayı anlatıyor. Normandiya çıkarması maddesindeki Omaha Beach, Utah Beach, Gold Beach, Sword Beach ve Juno Beach gibi. Ayvalık, Balıkesir... yani Ege sahilinin işgali için ayrı bir madde daha doğru olur. Mesela ingilizce vikideki Normandy landings sayfasındaki şablona bakarsanız sahil çıkartmaları ve arka alandaki operasyonlar/muharebeler ayrı maddeler. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.52.202 (talk) 15:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Herzegovina
Can I merge Herzegovina Vilayet to the short lived provinces page? Not permanently but until we can find a little bit more about it?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 16:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Selam
Selam Takabeg, ne var ne yok? PKK ile alakalı maddelerde denkleşmişiz yine :) --Khutuck (talk) 09:13, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- İyiyim. Zazalar maddesine hiç baktın mı ? Takabeg (talk) 09:20, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- Bakmadım. Zazalar hakkında pek fazla bilgi sahibi değilim. Khutuck (talk) 09:43, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
Template: POW
You do not need a source to explicitly state that someone is a "prisoner of war" to add this template, according to wikipedia rules: "This template is used to indicate commanders who were captured or surrendered in Infobox Military Conflict," and I am afraid we do not have different templates for insurgent leaders or army officers. For instance here POW is used for captured Iraqi-Kurdish Islamist insurgent commander Abu Abdullah al-Shafi'i while here it is used for captured Taliban commader Obaidullah Akhund and al-Qaeda commander Younis al-Mauritani, while here it is used for captured Palestinian (according Israelis) "terrorist" leader Ahmad Sa'adat. Therefore it is applicable for captured PKK commanders aswell, despite what your government may want to call them.Kermanshahi (talk) 11:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- What do you mean "your government" ? I recommend you to avoid ethnocentric reaction. Takabeg (talk) 11:41, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Remember last time?
They told you trying to get the other editor banned to put your own point on the article is unacceptable. But as always you want to break wiki rules again...Kermanshahi (talk) 14:44, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- Last time ? Takabeg (talk) 14:45, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Takabeg, Turkey – Kurdistan Workers' Party conflict maddesinde Öcalan ve Sakık'a POW denebilmesi için kaynak istemekte haklı mıyım? Herhangi bir çatışma sebebiyle hapsedilen herkes savaş esiri midir, Template:POW öyle duruyor sanki? Öcalan'ın savaş esiri olduğuna dair konsensüs var mıdır? Emin olamadım, fikir almak istedim. --Khutuck (talk) 17:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Either, stop acting like you're a moderator. You have no authority to warn me for anything. I can and will not let you destroy Kurdish-related articles on the forum. Kermanshahi (talk) 21:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Who are destroying articles ? I know you are not neutral. That article is Kurdish-related article for you. But for me that is related with Kurds and Turkey. Takabeg (talk) 21:30, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Ofcourse I am not neutral, how can any human being sympathise with a regime that has killed over 3 million innocent people? But I do not let this affect my editing, I make sure the article is as neutral as possible, written in objective way and representing both sides of the view constantly. I don't value anything the Turkish regime has ever said, it's all a load of BS, still I filled the article with Turkish claims because that is my obligation as an editor. You however, have not edited constructuvely, merely attacked the article in a rage to defend Kemalism. You are also the editor trying to erase Kurdish names from geographical articles. I know the kind of racism the Kemalists preach, can't have it. And as an Iranian, I do not have any POV objectives towards the article, unlike you.Kermanshahi (talk) 21:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunetly I don't care about you and your grudge against Kurds. We exist and our names will be heared. This is not Turkey, your regime's censorship does not apply here.Kermanshahi (talk) 21:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not against Kurds. But I oppose to Kurdish nationalistic edits in Wikipedia. At same time, I oppose to Turkish nationalistic edits in Wikipedia. Both supporters of Turkish nationalism and Kurdish nationalism cannot understand neutrality. You can read personal attacks against me by User:Böri. He claims that I should be an anti-Turkist (Türk karşıtı). You claim that I should be an anti-Kurdist. This is approaches of extremists. That's all. Takabeg (talk) 22:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Minorities in Greece
Hi. This may be of interest for you. Filanca (talk) 21:27, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sonra bakacam. Takabeg (talk) 05:13, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
İsmail Hakkı Berkok
- Maddede ne sorunu var anlayamadım. Bu arada ilk defa duyuyorum bunu üste doğru taradım da bulamadım.--Reality006 (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- Şu an sorun yok. Takabeg (talk) 14:31, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sorunun nedenini buldum. Vikilerde genel yenileme varmış. Türkçe Vikipedi'de şu an da birçok şey tam olarak çalışmamakta. 24 saate kadar normale döner muhtemelen.--Reality006 (talk) 20:44, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Türk Karşıtlığı
"Türklere karşı yazıyorsunuz." dedim ama "Hayır" diyemediniz! Wikipedia'yı kasıtlı olarak Türk karşıtı yazı yazmak için kullanıyorsunuz. Böri (talk) 14:38, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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Six Armenian vilayets/provinces name conflict
Sir, please, again please answer to this question. What do you mean by saying "Six vilayets"??? It's just a random name. If you want I can give you at least 10 Western sources from early 20th century saying "Six Armenian provinces/vilayets" and none of them saying just "Six vilayets". And again, searching "Six vilayets" doesn't prove that it's a common name, as just saying "US invasion" for the 2003 events in Iraq, doesn't specify the fact.
Western politicians called it "Six Armenian vilayets/provinces" for a reason to emphasize the Armenian population of the area.--Yerevanci (talk) 00:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Le Grand Duc
Kütükçüm, Türkçe Vikide Le Grand Duc (Fransızca Viki, (Le Grand Duc reklamı) maddesini açacak kullanıcı var mı ? tr:Kullanıcı:Makedon, tr:Kullanıcı:Totenkopf division'a sorar mısın ? Takabeg (talk) 09:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- İkisi de bu aralar pek aktif değiller, ben açarım birazdan. Google translate idare eder sanırsam, "The parallel lives of Wulf and Lilya on the Eastern Front from 1943 to the defeat of Nazi Germany . Wulf, Member of the Luftwaffe , looks weary of the war taking place. Defining themselves as anti-Nazi, it is nevertheless an emeritus of the night hunting German. Lilya is a woman pilot of the Soviet Air Force . She will have to prove to get the controls of a fighter. In three albums, and Yann Hugault us share the destinies of these two people." Anlaşılır, Türkçeye buradan çeviririm. Khutuck (talk) 09:23, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Merci. 1. Cilt: Gece Cadıları, 2. Cilt: Yoldaş Lilya, 3. Cilt: Wulf ve Lilya. Kapakları: es/288890277X/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=301061&s=books Tome 1, Tome 2, Tome 3 Takabeg (talk) 09:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- Birde tr:Süleyman Adil Okuldaş (Eski Samsun milletvekili), Türk Parlamento Tarihi: TBMM - III Dömemi 1927-1931, III. Cilt'e göre, 1880'de İzmir'de doğdu. İzmir Yıldız Mahallesi 104-40-34 nüfusa kayıtlı....... Manastır Askerî İdadisine girdi. Burdan kendi isteği ile Mayıs 1986'da tasdikname alarak Adana İdadisine nakletti....... Okul arkadaşlığını ifade eden soyadı, Atatürk tarafından verildi. 21 Haziran 1939'da Ankara'da öldü. Asrî Mezarlıkta toprağa verildi. (and see Maliye Müfettişleri Derneği) Bildiğim kadarıyla sen de bu tür soyadlar ile ilgili hikayeleri seviyorsundur (Koptagel, Altay v.s.). Takabeg (talk) 09:47, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Infobox
I made a mistake taking a wiki-break for a few days, thinking we had our differences sorted out. Then when I saw how you had wrecked the infobox and destroyed it, I could not sit idle any longer. This has nothing to do about POV, this is about simple facts. I will not allow you to ruin the infobox behind my back without talking to me about it. I have left all the constructive edits made to the infobox, only removed the mess and stuff which doesn't belong there. If you want to change the infobox, you will discuss this with me, because I am not backing down. I will continue to revert your edits until I die, or you manage to throw off the Turkish arrogance and come to an agreement.Kermanshahi (talk) 10:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Arbcomm and uninvolved user
Hi, as an uninvolved user can you make a comment on point 7 here: [3] --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 11:37, 10 October 2011 (UTC)