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- I didn't see the Malleus/Cirt affair until today, but I have now read it and the FAR that preceded it. Without expressing any opinion on Malleus' definitions of what on earth ''might'' constitute incivility, I would like to point out that your posts throughout the FAR are exactly the kind of thing that make me dump any involvement in a FAR. In fact I've walked away from FARs, though without comment, for far less. I appreciate you were just trying to list the faults of the article as you saw them but can I ask you to read that FAR again from the mindset of someone who is trying to effect actual improvements. Can you try and understand how your tone and apparently peremptory demands may well lead an editor to just write <nowiki>sofixit</nowiki> in huge letters across the page and then push off? It's human nature. If someone instructs you to do something that you were doing anyway, you think "no, I won't!". Yours with the best of intentions, [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Fainites|barley]]</small></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Fainites|<small>scribs</small>]] 10:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC) |
- I didn't see the Malleus/Cirt affair until today, but I have now read it and the FAR that preceded it. Without expressing any opinion on Malleus' definitions of what on earth ''might'' constitute incivility, I would like to point out that your posts throughout the FAR are exactly the kind of thing that make me dump any involvement in a FAR. In fact I've walked away from FARs, though without comment, for far less. I appreciate you were just trying to list the faults of the article as you saw them but can I ask you to read that FAR again from the mindset of someone who is trying to effect actual improvements. Can you try and understand how your tone and apparently peremptory demands may well lead an editor to just write <nowiki>sofixit</nowiki> in huge letters across the page and then push off? It's human nature. If someone instructs you to do something that you were doing anyway, you think "no, I won't!". Yours with the best of intentions, [[User:Fainites|Fainites]] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Fainites|barley]]</small></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Fainites|<small>scribs</small>]] 10:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Fainites, I thank you for the input, and especially the respectful and polite way in which you have imparted it. I will take your words under advisement in the future. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 10:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC) |
:Fainites, I thank you for the input, and especially the respectful and polite way in which you have imparted it. I will take your words under advisement in the future. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 10:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::I issued an apology to Malleus [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum&diff=391017312&oldid=390992957]. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 06:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Other neat portal ideas for longer term
- Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:
- Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
- Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
- Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
- Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
- If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.
- Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)
Note to self
- MakeRef
- Reflinks
- Citation tool for Google Books
- Citation tool for DOIs
- Tools, part 1: References, external links, categories and size
independent reliable secondary sources
- {{findsources}}
- Refs inside scroll box
<div class="reflist4" style="height: 200px; overflow: auto; padding: 3px; border: 1px solid #ababab">{{reflist|2}}</div>
- Cite templates
<ref>{{cite book| last = | first = | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = | publisher = | year = | location = | page = | url = | doi = | id = | isbn = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news| last = | first = | coauthors = | title = | work = | language = | publisher = | page = | date = | url = | accessdate = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite journal|last =| first=| authorlink=| coauthors=|title=|journal=|volume=|issue=|page=|publisher=|location = | date = | url = | doi = | id = | accessdate = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite web| last = | first = | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = | work = | publisher = | date = | url = | format = | doi = | accessdate = }}</ref>
- Citation model
- Body text in-cite
<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>
- References section
(reference template from WP:CIT)
*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>
- Different model
- Template:Citation
- Template:Harvnb
- Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>
See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.
More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.
Dispatch
Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:
- Featured content overview
- Peer review
- Did you know
- Featured lists
- Good articles
- Featured sounds
- Featured topics
- Images
- TFA
- And Featured articles many times: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-21/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-04-07/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-10-13/Dispatches
None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Will mull this over and most likely draft something up. Cirt (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2108 (UTC)
Razzies progress
- 15th Golden Raspberry Awards through 29th Golden Raspberry Awards = reformatting process done.
- Note: Going to have to go back and model these after the modifications made subsequently to 29th Golden Raspberry Awards.
- 29th Golden Raspberry Awards - so far only one expanded with sourcing research. (WP:FL)
- Razzie Award for Worst New Star = reformatting process done, next to use Talk:Razzie Award for Worst Picture as model to reformat other pages in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards by category (with subsection breaks by decade)
Page protection: Monty Hall problem
You recently temporarily protected the Monty Hall problem article. As you likely know, the article is under mediation right now. Based on this statement, there does not seem to be adequate consensus to avoid revert-waring right now. Would you be willing to make the block indefinite for now? If a consensus emerges on editing we can remove the pp. Thanks. Sunray (talk) 21:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
- Let us revisit it after the protection expires. -- Cirt (talk) 17:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- I may not be back online before the protection expires. Further background: I am mediating an ongoing dispute with the article.[1] The mediation is progressing slowly. However, as the above diff makes clear, at least one participant has resolved to make changes to the article as soon as the pp has been removed. Other participants have made it clear that they will revert any changes. We are not yet at a point where collaborative editing is likely to ensue. Continuing protection would be a good idea, IMO. Sunray (talk) 21:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, well hopefully things will get better between the parties, if not, can always reprotect for longer after that. -- Cirt (talk) 00:36, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am hopeful that things will get better between the parties as a result of the mediation. However, the conditions are not yet such that they can agree on much. If you look at the article, you will see what I mean. I would suggest at least a 30 day protection of the article. Or we could protect it indefinitely pending consensus on editing rules. Sunray (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. Monty Hall problem now fullprot for one month. -- Cirt (talk) 21:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am hopeful that things will get better between the parties as a result of the mediation. However, the conditions are not yet such that they can agree on much. If you look at the article, you will see what I mean. I would suggest at least a 30 day protection of the article. Or we could protect it indefinitely pending consensus on editing rules. Sunray (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, well hopefully things will get better between the parties, if not, can always reprotect for longer after that. -- Cirt (talk) 00:36, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- I may not be back online before the protection expires. Further background: I am mediating an ongoing dispute with the article.[1] The mediation is progressing slowly. However, as the above diff makes clear, at least one participant has resolved to make changes to the article as soon as the pp has been removed. Other participants have made it clear that they will revert any changes. We are not yet at a point where collaborative editing is likely to ensue. Continuing protection would be a good idea, IMO. Sunray (talk) 21:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Proposed Quidco article
Hi Cirt, in case you missed my last update, the updated version of the proposed Quidco article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stuartcoggins/Sandbox with improvements to the secondary references. Many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuartcoggins (talk • contribs) .
- Okay, will take a look. -- Cirt (talk) 10:45, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please, format the cites with WP:CIT templates. -- Cirt (talk) 10:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, that is now complete. Stuartcoggins (talk) 13:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- One cite is still not formatted. -- Cirt (talk) 16:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about that; the last one has now been formatted. Stuartcoggins (talk) 13:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, seems to still fail WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 13:42, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, would it be better to remove that reference entirely and have it stand uncited? Unfortunately that particular piece of information is not listed on any independent websites. Stuartcoggins (talk) 13:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- No, I mean the article as a whole fails WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 18:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah I see. I believe there was some good discussion about the notability of Quidco on the Articles for deletion/Quidco page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Quidco, which argued in favour of keeping the article due to UK national media coverage of Quidco over the past few years. I would argue that the coverage of Quidco in national newspapers such as the Guardian, the Observer, the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail would constitute notability and satisfy the 'significant coverage' that is 'reliable' and 'independent of the subject' requirements of Wikipedia:NOTE. Thank you again for your time in looking at this. Stuartcoggins (talk) 16:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. Moved into article mainspace. Sent to AFD for community assessment of notability of this latest incarnation. Now at AFD, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quidco (3rd nomination). -- Cirt (talk) 17:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the time you've spent on this. Stuartcoggins (talk) 09:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. :) -- Cirt (talk) 11:07, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the time you've spent on this. Stuartcoggins (talk) 09:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah I see. I believe there was some good discussion about the notability of Quidco on the Articles for deletion/Quidco page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Quidco, which argued in favour of keeping the article due to UK national media coverage of Quidco over the past few years. I would argue that the coverage of Quidco in national newspapers such as the Guardian, the Observer, the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail would constitute notability and satisfy the 'significant coverage' that is 'reliable' and 'independent of the subject' requirements of Wikipedia:NOTE. Thank you again for your time in looking at this. Stuartcoggins (talk) 16:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- No, I mean the article as a whole fails WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 18:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, would it be better to remove that reference entirely and have it stand uncited? Unfortunately that particular piece of information is not listed on any independent websites. Stuartcoggins (talk) 13:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, seems to still fail WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 13:42, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about that; the last one has now been formatted. Stuartcoggins (talk) 13:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- One cite is still not formatted. -- Cirt (talk) 16:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, that is now complete. Stuartcoggins (talk) 13:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please, format the cites with WP:CIT templates. -- Cirt (talk) 10:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Marvel Database Project
Hey, I've been away and didn't notice the deletion discussion going on for Marvel Database Project. I wanted to continue the discussion about it on the talk page and you're the administrator who deleted it, so if I understood the deletion review process correctly I'm supposed to contact you to talk about it.
- MrBlonde267 (talk) 08:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest you work on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userspace. If you wish it, I can make such a copy available to you. :) -- Cirt (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
When the daily log for DRV is closed, the headers should be removed by hand for archiving per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Administrator instructions. Just a little reminder for when you have closed all of a day's DRVs. Thank you for your hard work in keeping DRV from getting backlogged. Best, Cunard (talk) 09:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. :) -- Cirt (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Protection of the Jay Park Page
Hi Cirt! Thank you for semi-protecting the Jay Park page until November. It has been constantly plagued by vandalisms & unreferenced additions, so a protection of sorts is a welcome relief. There is this user,Jksun2 who kept adding specificity to the opening paragraph on the page. I explained on my last edit that keeping the introductory information general is more proper & specific details can be stated on the succeeding paragraphs (ref: Wikipedia:MOSBIO Opening Paragraph 3.3), but the user disregarded it. I checked on the user's talk page & it has received warnings to be blocked from editing due to disruptive editing, the last one was this October. Please advice on what can be done. The page can definitely improve w/ more cleaning up, but it won't progress if there are constant interruptions. Thank you so much. Kookygoddess (talk) 10:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. :) -- Cirt (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK for The Secrets of Scientology
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Why? was it deleted?
Why was my page User:Salamaat deleted? And If I want to recreate it with different content than what?Salamaat (talk) 18:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Salamaat. -- Cirt (talk) 20:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Need comment
I found a strange edit you made to the Battlefield Earth (film) article and made a comment about it in the talk page if you could please take the time to respond. Thanks. LuftWaffle0 (talk) 21:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Stanley Pons
Please discuss issues on the talk page instead of reverting back and forth repeatedly. -- Cirt (talk) 21:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Content is excessive , I removed it once and it was replaced with the comment , replacing long term stabler version .. there is no such thing and the criticism is excessive. If anyone actually opens a discussion I will join in but I will remove such content on sight, thanks. Your protecting the article is undue and not needed at all, there is no dispute. Protection of articles without need is against policy. Off2riorob (talk) 21:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note: User blanked out this comment from their user talk page. User has been warned before about overstepping BLP in order to gratuitously engage in disruptive editing on Wikipedia. -- Cirt (talk) 21:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- The above comments are inaccurate. As Off2riorob says, and the edit history shows, Off2riorob made one single revert of a BLP violation on the Stanley Pons BLP. He did not revert "back and forth repeatedly". He is entitled to delete posts on his talk page, which, incidentally, also features a barnstar he received from an admin yesterday, thanking him "For your outstanding work on Israel Shamir. When someone asks a question about BLPs in the admin chatroom on IRC, I point them in your direction. I can always trust with problematic BLP articles and frankly adminning would be a lot harder without your help!" The post from GWH did not feature the words "gratuitous" or "disruptive", nor any words that could be construed as remotely approaching these sentiments. It was well-meant and cordial advice to Off2riorob to be careful not to get himself into hot water in his BLP work, work that he is generally respected for. It pains me to see a good editor and wiki-mate mischaracterised in such a manner. --JN466 03:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Off2riorob (talk · contribs) has a tendency to engage in disruptive editing and edit-warring. On same talk page, post by another admin prior to the comment by Georgewilliamherbert, was that of admin PhilKnight [2]. All too often Off2riorob engages in a disruptive behavior pattern of attempting to get his way through reverting, as opposed to polite talk page discussion. -- Cirt (talk) 04:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- The above comments are inaccurate. As Off2riorob says, and the edit history shows, Off2riorob made one single revert of a BLP violation on the Stanley Pons BLP. He did not revert "back and forth repeatedly". He is entitled to delete posts on his talk page, which, incidentally, also features a barnstar he received from an admin yesterday, thanking him "For your outstanding work on Israel Shamir. When someone asks a question about BLPs in the admin chatroom on IRC, I point them in your direction. I can always trust with problematic BLP articles and frankly adminning would be a lot harder without your help!" The post from GWH did not feature the words "gratuitous" or "disruptive", nor any words that could be construed as remotely approaching these sentiments. It was well-meant and cordial advice to Off2riorob to be careful not to get himself into hot water in his BLP work, work that he is generally respected for. It pains me to see a good editor and wiki-mate mischaracterised in such a manner. --JN466 03:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note: User blanked out this comment from their user talk page. User has been warned before about overstepping BLP in order to gratuitously engage in disruptive editing on Wikipedia. -- Cirt (talk) 21:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Lansrob
In retrospect, since he's effectively only editing his talk page, that may not have had the stopping power you were hoping for... HalfShadow 22:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 22:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
ANI: Meat, Libel, four AfDs, and assorted weirdness at David Bruce McMahan
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Sven Manguard Talk 02:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 02:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You seem to be the most experienced editor involved. Can you direct me as to how to handle the other two issues (the libel and the meat?) I just posted a response at ANI regarding those issues, but wanted to ask you personally, on account of your experience. Sven Manguard Talk 02:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- I would suggest filing a report to WP:SPI. -- Cirt (talk) 02:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You seem to be the most experienced editor involved. Can you direct me as to how to handle the other two issues (the libel and the meat?) I just posted a response at ANI regarding those issues, but wanted to ask you personally, on account of your experience. Sven Manguard Talk 02:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
edit warring in Ram Sharan Varma
I don't believe this. So now removing libelous claims from a BLP is considered edit warring? I tried to talk to the user in the article's talk page, and then in his talk page. He kept adding the libelous claims back and then started using abusive edit summaries. The fourth time i reverted, i promptly went to ANI asking others to take a look. The user then libeled the subject in the aNI thread (which had to be redacted) and warned. He abused other editors who agreed with me that the material was libel and had to be removed. The discussion was moved to BLP noticeboard where atleast four other editors (off2riorob, dougweller, dgg) agreed with my original position, that the additions were libel. The user then insults us some more there and disappears and all appears quiet.
Now you pop up seven days later and template me along with the libeler. Please read the threads before you drive away vandalism reverters with such thoughtless actions.--Sodabottle (talk) 05:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- There were a lot of reverts going on, back-and-forth and back-and-forth. Best to step back, report the matter, and engage in discussion, at the article's talk page, and if necessary, pursue WP:Dispute resolution. -- Cirt (talk) 05:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- There were about six reverts over two days. the second day i exceeded 3rr went straight to the ANI thread. And whats with putting "discussion" in quotes?. You are seriously suggesting i hold hands with a libeler and encourage him?. I was civil, to the point and told how to add it to the criticism section, if it can be sourced.
- so if someone keeps adding "x is a paedophile" (unsourced) to a blp, i am to wait and report the matter and seek dispute resolution?. Did you even read the ANI and BLP noticeboard threads? --Sodabottle (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You could try to get someone else to intervene, rather than the back-and-forth reverts. -- Cirt (talk) 06:50, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- so if someone keeps adding "x is a paedophile" (unsourced) to a blp, i am to wait and report the matter and seek dispute resolution?. Did you even read the ANI and BLP noticeboard threads? --Sodabottle (talk) 06:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- It was a BLP and i was being bold. Once i exceeded the 3rr limit i went to the ANI. This was not a content dispute. He was adding personal research and libelous statements for days in the article. A few other people had already reverted him without success. I step in, manage to stop him and i get slapped with a edit warring template. I don't think you are going to admit you made a mistake. I will drop it here and keep your template as an example what happens to people who try to revert vandalism --Sodabottle (talk) 06:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You were right to report it to ANI. You can try getting ahold of an admin over IRC in the future for issues like this. -- Cirt (talk) 07:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- It was a BLP and i was being bold. Once i exceeded the 3rr limit i went to the ANI. This was not a content dispute. He was adding personal research and libelous statements for days in the article. A few other people had already reverted him without success. I step in, manage to stop him and i get slapped with a edit warring template. I don't think you are going to admit you made a mistake. I will drop it here and keep your template as an example what happens to people who try to revert vandalism --Sodabottle (talk) 06:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I've replied to your message at WT:MFD. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 06:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, thank you! :) -- Cirt (talk) 06:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I've gone through my current MfD nominations and tagged all of those pages, I think, though I may have missed some. Cunard (talk) 07:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! -- Cirt (talk) 07:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I've gone through my current MfD nominations and tagged all of those pages, I think, though I may have missed some. Cunard (talk) 07:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
We need a David Bruce McMahon page
How can he not be notable enough? Even light offenders are brought to light.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/10/memo_to_bruce_m.php?page=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.139.208 (talk) 11:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Regarding David Bruce McMahan, please see discussion about this at Admin Noticeboard Incidents. -- Cirt (talk) 18:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Neutrality
Nothing is real, nothing exists, 1 +1 =0 . Any statement alledging that anything is a fact or exists or any such specific statement is non-neutrali
mathematics is also non neutral if An article says "there are 50 states of the USA" that is not neutral, it is alledged that 1+1+1+1 (etc)= 50 and doing mathematics is not neutralal.
And so it is that my statemtnat that 2 and a bit years of 3 consecutive 20 year sentences is purely the same as a statement of mathematics.. its clear that she did not serve long enough, and that is a fact as un-neutral as you judge, its a clear fact that is beyond dispute, not even charles manson would dispute it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.35.71 (talk) 12:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure what this is in regards to. -- Cirt (talk) 18:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, Cirt. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 18:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Please consider BLP guidance for BQZip01, I believe that the intent seen here is not helpful in improving a high visibility article on a controversial person. 68.28.104.229 (talk) 14:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest you report the matter to WP:BLPN. -- Cirt (talk) 18:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Done, thank you. 68.28.104.248 (talk) 18:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 18:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Done, thank you. 68.28.104.248 (talk) 18:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Kshitij85
I noticed you blocked Kshitij85 on user name policy. If this is purely because of what appears to be in the middle of the name, you may want to reconsider. Kshitij is a perfectly legitimate Indian name. As he has already explained. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. Unblocked. -- Cirt (talk) 18:30, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Ping
Hi, Cirt, I sent you an email. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 01:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I noticed you deleted Hindu jihad which was the original name for List of terrorist acts by Hindu extremists in India (someone changed the name during the AFD). The latter should be deleted too. TomCat4680 (talk) 01:41, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You deleted the redirect that resulted from the article being moved during the AfD, not the actual article; it's at List of terrorist acts by Hindu extremists in India, now. Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:27, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- and now I see the message just above... Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:29, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Both now appear to be deleted. -- Cirt (talk) 06:29, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
There's the true original at:
Mebbe the old revs under the current redirect should be deleted, too; it's pretty much the content just discussed at the AfD. There were a variety of versions, depending one just when you looked ;) Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- and even older versions deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindu terrorism. How big is this database now? Jack Merridew 07:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Done, deleted. -- Cirt (talk) 07:41, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. There are so many diffs that nothing really goes away, here. Endless copypasta site. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 07:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Terima kasihref Jack Merridew 07:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 07:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. There are so many diffs that nothing really goes away, here. Endless copypasta site. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Username blocks
Hi Cirt. I'm wondering why you're systematically blocking editors with policy-compliant names like:
- MatthewCummins (talk · contribs · block log)
- Manj92 (talk · contribs · block log)
- Lolarola (talk · contribs · block log)
..the list goes on for a bit so I'll pause there for an answer. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Done, unblocked MatthewCummins (talk · contribs) and Lolarola (talk · contribs), the other was using Wikipedia only for self-promotion. -- Cirt (talk) 07:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think that really answers the question, but anyway.. That one was a schoolkid writing barely more than a test page. First team football for Celtic? I noticed a whole pile of equally bad blocks while you were doing I think the G's the other day. Could you take more care with them. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, will keep that in mind in the future going forward. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 07:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think that really answers the question, but anyway.. That one was a schoolkid writing barely more than a test page. First team football for Celtic? I noticed a whole pile of equally bad blocks while you were doing I think the G's the other day. Could you take more care with them. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Concerns about editor with what seems to me anyway to be a definite COI
I was wondering whether you might be interested in looking at some of the contributions recently made at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Massachusetts/Salem Witch Trials Task Force, and possibly some of the other comments elsewhere made by some of the editors there. I get the definite impression that one editor involved with the topic may have a very serious conflict of interests regarding this topic, but think that I might as an individual have a biased judgement on the matter. I am not naming anyone in particular; if you don't see comments which strike you as being at least potentially problematic, please feel free to ignore this as, possibly, an overreaction on my part. John Carter (talk) 22:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, will try to take a look. -- Cirt (talk) 18:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
David McMahan again
Though my edit summary in removing this probably should have been more along the lines of WP:UNDUE, it also seems like this edit was an attempt to circumvent the AFD. Thoughts? OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Addendum: I didn't touch this one, but the issue is also being covered in Streisand effect. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed, it does appear to be circumventing the AFD. -- Cirt (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
closeure review
Could I ask you to please review your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krystyn Heide? This was a double nomination, and at closure there were four editors arguing for deletion of the Krystyn Heide article, but only the nominator had any problem with the Squarespace article, and thee editors (myself included) argued for its retention. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 19:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 19:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Also, would you mind leaving a note at the AFD, so that it's clearer for anybody who might follow-up and think the article was accidentally not deleted? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 20:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks again for your help! Be well. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome, -- Cirt (talk) 20:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks again for your help! Be well. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Also, would you mind leaving a note at the AFD, so that it's clearer for anybody who might follow-up and think the article was accidentally not deleted? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:56, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 19:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! — pd_THOR | =/\= | 19:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
GA M-6 (Michigan highway)
I know this is a bit out of your subject area expertise, but I started a GA review of M-6 (Michigan highway) and there seems to be a difference of opinion with the author over how much explanatory material should be included to make the article self explanatory. I would appreciate a second set of eyes reading the article to see whether it should be clarified, particulary with respect to who designates roads as a part of the National Highway System and the use of exit number designations. I would appreciate if you could spend a couple of minutes looking it over and give your opinion. Thanks. Racepacket (talk) 21:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hrm, suggest you try posting matter-of-fact, neutrally-worded-notices to talk pages of relevant WikiProjects. -- Cirt (talk) 00:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Please be clear about what you are doing
When you block an account, please leave a note on the talk page so that other editors don't see a red entry for the talk page of that IP address in the history log of the pages they have changed. Specifically, account 94.103.100.100, which appears in the log for Populus. Thank you. Nadiatalent (talk) 22:14, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 00:21, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- As I go through some of the articles, I will also make a note if one's not there already (I am making notes in the edit summaries). Cirt, you have blocked a good number of the socks I had identified, but I have the first few listed on my talk page. Let me know if you want them in another format or template to make checking them easier Flowanda | Talk 00:33, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
IRC
Heh, I'm chasing you around Wikimedia. Can you come on IRC to talk about a potential WN story? Kinda urgent. Thanks! :) Matthewedwards : Chat 05:17, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 05:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
94.11.28.83 block
Hi. I saw 94.11.28.83 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) reported at WP:AIV and I was starting to check it out when you blocked the IP based on what was reported to be a vandalistic edit:[3]] The name "DiC" certainly looks like schoolkid vandalism, but I don't think it was. The IP changed the Wikilink from [[Cookie_Jar_Group#DIC_Entertainment|DiC]] to [[DiC]]. Our article, DiC, is about a company that's now part of Cookie_Jar_Group. --A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:23, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Unblocked.
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 20:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! --A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! --A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Great work
Cirt, thank you for closing all the User:Mahia Yahia and Koraiem MfDs. Nearly 50 MfDs by my count. Great work! Cunard (talk) 01:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Thanks for thanking me! Much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 01:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
/* Your assistance please */
I request userification of Associated Press library of Guantanamo Bay detainee dossiers to User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Associated Press library of Guantanamo Bay detainee dossiers. I'd like the full revision history and talk page please.
IIRC I suggested userification on Talk:Associated Press library of Guantanamo Bay detainee dossiers over a year ago.
Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 02:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 03:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Thats my name
You have blocked me but Kshitij is a Indian name. How can i change my name?? (Kshitij85 (talk) 05:30, 13 October 2010 (UTC))
- Replied at user talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 05:31, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- No problem, although this is the second time i am facing this problem. But its ok. Thanks (Kshitij85 (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 05:36, 13 October 2010 (UTC).
Zend Certified Engineer
Could you please take a second look at the Zend Certified Engineer deletion discussion?
IMHO there was no consensus to merge, nor valid arguments to do so. The arguments for merging are extraneous and/or are in conflict with the guidelines for merging, "Merging should not be considered if" :
- The separate topics could be expanded into longer standalone (but cross linked) articles
- The topics are discrete subjects and deserve their own articles even though they may be short
Some users have argued that the topic is "not particularly notable", in spite of the fact that reliable sources that discuss 'Zend Certified Engineer' are cited.
The claim that the book "PHP: The Good Parts" cannot be "checked" or that it only mentions ZCE in one sentence is completely false. The book is easily "checked" by anyone who bothers to actually read it. I made a reference to the page of the first mention, which is located at the beginning of the book in the introduction summary chapter and is one sentence long. However, ZCE is discussed throughout the book in many chapters as well as in other reliable sources.
Thanks,
Ofus (talk) 08:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- I did not close that AFD, try asking with the closing admin. -- Cirt (talk) 08:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
David Miscavige
What is the purpose of improving David Miscavige' page ? --Japarthur (talk) 11:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
- Will reply at user's talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 19:51, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
G8
Hi. Could you please let me know why this page (Comparison_of_knowledge_management_software) has been deleted? It seems to be a normal page like Comparison_of_FTP_client_software or Comparison_of_file_managers. And I do not see anything related to the G8. Please elaborate. Thank you in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The.aloner (talk • contribs) 12:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Was deleted after WP:AFD discussion, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of knowledge base management software. -- Cirt (talk) 12:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for your quick answer. I believe there are two main problems with the page: links to external websites that make it a link farm, and non-neutral characteristics for some features. In other aspects is seems to be valuable because it gives some comparison for software in this industry. I'm learning several examples of comparison pages and it seems to me that solving these two problems may make this page more appropriate. I think I can start remaking the page. How do you think, is that better to make changes to the currently moved page or it is better to apply changes if page is undeleted? -- The.aloner (talk) 15:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletion review for EXtremeDB
An editor has asked for a deletion review of EXtremeDB. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 15:55, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the notice, -- Cirt (talk) 20:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
129.94.130.81
Thanks for checking out the report and blocking them. The IP is rather annoying he loves to attack TeaDrinker--iGeMiNix/What's up?/My Stuff 20:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. -- Cirt (talk) 20:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
No they don't
"direct quotations need cites at end of sentences. The citations cover everything that precedes them; it's unnecesary clutter to repeat the same citation after every sentence. Malleus Fatuorum 23:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are wrong, but not going to revert over it. The FA will just remain in a sub-standard level of quality. -- Cirt (talk) 23:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- One of us is certainly wrong, but it isn't me. Let me just say that I find your general attitude to be apalling, and I now fully understand why Giano refused to have anything to do with your vindictive FAR campaign against him. I on the other hand will continue to work on improving this article instead of idly criticising it, despite your best efforts at sabotage. Malleus Fatuorum 23:30, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe I have seen from your behavior in the past, that on your user talk page you do not appreciate users being impolite towards you, when they choose to go over and comment there. -- Cirt (talk) 23:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. Malleus Fatuorum 23:32, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- [4] -- Cirt (talk) 23:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please, I request that you do not use such language at my user talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 23:41, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- [4] -- Cirt (talk) 23:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. Malleus Fatuorum 23:32, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe I have seen from your behavior in the past, that on your user talk page you do not appreciate users being impolite towards you, when they choose to go over and comment there. -- Cirt (talk) 23:31, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- One of us is certainly wrong, but it isn't me. Let me just say that I find your general attitude to be apalling, and I now fully understand why Giano refused to have anything to do with your vindictive FAR campaign against him. I on the other hand will continue to work on improving this article instead of idly criticising it, despite your best efforts at sabotage. Malleus Fatuorum 23:30, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK for National Foundation for Women Legislators
— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Bacon WikiCup 2011
- Pages
- Wikipedia:Bacon WikiCup
- User:SuperHamster/Bacon Challenge 2011
- User:SuperHamster/Bacon WikiCup 2011
- User:SuperHamster/Bacon WikiCup 2011/Submissions
- History
- Ideas
- Films? — Bacon Grabbers, Canadian Bacon, Slaughterhouse (film) (aka Bacon Bits)
- Books? — search on authors from prior year, also: Don't Forget the Bacon! by Pat Hutchins; Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon by Craig Fass, Brian Turtle, and Mike Ginelli
- Drinks? — Bacon and Tomato Sandwich, Bacon Liquor & Tomato
- Quality upgrade? — quality upgrade on articles from prior year: Everything Tastes Better with Bacon, The Bacon Cookbook, The BLT Cookbook, Bacon: A Love Story
-- Cirt (talk) 10:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Started peer review for one from prior: Wikipedia:Peer review/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive1. -- Cirt (talk) 10:39, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
A word of advice
- I didn't see the Malleus/Cirt affair until today, but I have now read it and the FAR that preceded it. Without expressing any opinion on Malleus' definitions of what on earth might constitute incivility, I would like to point out that your posts throughout the FAR are exactly the kind of thing that make me dump any involvement in a FAR. In fact I've walked away from FARs, though without comment, for far less. I appreciate you were just trying to list the faults of the article as you saw them but can I ask you to read that FAR again from the mindset of someone who is trying to effect actual improvements. Can you try and understand how your tone and apparently peremptory demands may well lead an editor to just write sofixit in huge letters across the page and then push off? It's human nature. If someone instructs you to do something that you were doing anyway, you think "no, I won't!". Yours with the best of intentions, Fainites barleyscribs 10:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Fainites, I thank you for the input, and especially the respectful and polite way in which you have imparted it. I will take your words under advisement in the future. -- Cirt (talk) 10:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I issued an apology to Malleus [5]. -- Cirt (talk) 06:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Alex Nackman wiki page
October 15, 2010
Cirt,
I have made the changes you had requested and added a number of references. I was hoping we could re-instate the Alex Nackman wiki page. Please let me know.
Thanks.
Page and changes are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Musicman5/Alex_Nackman
Musicman5 (talk) 16:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)Mark
- Please format the cites, using WP:CIT templates. -- Cirt (talk) 20:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Welcome to the Bacon Challenge 2011!
Since you signed up, you get an official Bacon Challenge welcome message:
Hi, Cirt, and welcome to the Bacon Challenge 2011! The goal of this event is to expand as much bacon-related content as possible, so get started whenever you can! A side event to the Bacon Challenge is the Bacon WikiCup 2011, an event where participants in the Bacon Challenge have a chance to score points for creating and expanding bacon-related content, all while trying to score as high as they can. Be sure to submit all your bacon-related contributions to the submissions page in order to score points. At the end of the Cup, the winner will get a nice trophy along with all other participants receiving a medal for their efforts (virtual, of course; don't go waiting by your mailbox for it). For any questions or comments regarding the Challenge, please head on over here, and for any questions or comments relating to the Cup, go here. Thanks and good luck. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:10, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 20:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Blocking
Another user has made the almost the same edits to 90210 (season 1) as this IP: User talk:24.18.37.151 that you blocked. User:99hgbh is the one I'm thinking is a sockpuppet of the IP. Could you please review the summary of 90210 season 1 and check out the comment here made by user:99hgbh. What do you think? I've gone ahead and reverted the edits, but I won't post on their talk page until I get your opinion on if you think it's a sockpuppetry case. Jayy008 (talk) 18:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'd suggest WP:SPI. -- Cirt (talk) 20:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. How active are they? Jayy008 (talk) 22:13, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I mean I would suggest you file a request for investigation at WP:SPI. -- Cirt (talk) 22:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have done, HERE, how long will it take you think? Jayy008 (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I was thinking more to file it as a full, separate, actual case page. -- Cirt (talk) 22:28, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have done, HERE, how long will it take you think? Jayy008 (talk) 22:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I mean I would suggest you file a request for investigation at WP:SPI. -- Cirt (talk) 22:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. How active are they? Jayy008 (talk) 22:13, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Bacon!
Hi Cirt, I think you may have left a message for Dmries on my talk page (or maybe ya did a copy and paste to a few people and forgot to change the name... I've done that a few times). Either way, checking out the upcoming Bacon Challenge to see how I can participate. Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 19:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- I fixed it, I had meant it for you too, sorry. :) -- Cirt (talk) 20:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
why'd my comments get deleted?
I entered some comments in a discussion for deletion about a page I created , and the comments I made were removed, and not ony was the page deleted, it was deleted out of my profile as well. What gives? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erafalko (talk • contribs) 05:57, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- Your comments were removed, apparently accidentally, by another user here: [6]. Cirt's stalker = --Jayron32 06:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)