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Ram Harijan
Did you notice that 2 days after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ram Harijan was deleted Late-development syndrome was created? Ram Harijan is now a redirect to it. A search on "Late-development syndrome" psychosomatic turns up nothing. Yes, "Late-development syndrome" is a term used in various ways, but the sources don't seem to relate to Harijan's concept. Doug Weller (talk) 08:59, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Nope I had no idea but seems all pages have now been deleted anyway. –Davey2010Talk 14:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Garbage picking article renaming
You previously opposed a merger of the garbage picking article. Well, now someone wants to rename the article "dumpster diving" which I feel is not a good idea as it's not inclusive of the various situations discussed in the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Garbage_picking#Requested_move_31_August_2015 He already did the renaming once without any consensus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Garbage_picking#Garbage_Picking_to_Dumpster_Diving_Move.2Frename_should_be_reverted. I thought you might not have seen the requested move and might wish to have your say one way or another. Thanks. Centerone (talk) 16:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up - I was completely unaware that it had even been moved!, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 17:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
I just saw this "The result was no consensus. Not gonna lie even I'm a tad confused on the "fancruft" part but whatever, Consensus is to Keep" To me it looks contradictory: "no consensus" vs. "Consensus is to Keep" . I'm slightly befuddled now. Kraxler (talk) 15:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Could you doublecheck your close on this? Your boldfaced close says "no consensus", but your rationale says "consensus is to keep", which IMO is the only possible result given that no one supported the unelaborated nomination. Thanks, postdlf (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- And...it looks like I should've read your talk page before posting this, because Kraxler already raised this same point with you directly above. ; ) postdlf (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Kraxler, Postdlf - Thank you both for noticing my rather embarrassing closure, I've obviously misclicked somewhere, Should've obviously been Keep sorry
, All amended now :) –Davey2010Talk 16:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've done it before too, in one case deleting when I meant to close as keep. Mobile device editing is dangerous. postdlf (talk) 20:08, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Holy shit really ?
, Bet that was awkward restoring lol, I've personally never edited with a mobile but have heard it's more easy to fuck up on a mobile than it is with a pc, –Davey2010Talk 20:20, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Kraxler, Postdlf - Thank you both for noticing my rather embarrassing closure, I've obviously misclicked somewhere, Should've obviously been Keep sorry
Emma Leonard
I'd like to know why you suggested deletion for Emma Leonard's page. I actually can't understand your explanation in the discussion page. Could you tell me the exact reason in a few words? Is she not famous enough, maybe? Also, I want to add that, the Emma Leonard I wrote the page about, is not the one who acted in Home and Away, but the one who acted in Wicked Science. Yes, there are two Australian actresses whose name is Emma Leonard and users in IMDb made a mess, as they considered them as one person and mixed their roles.--Supremo (talk) 11:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Raniero Supremo - Yup that was pretty much it - She isn't notable, The AFD shouldn't of even been redirected so you should thank your lucky stars it has :), Thanks & Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 12:20, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
No other ways!
Hi Dave! Its been long since we talked last, how are you? I want to make an announcement but I can't figure out any other way but to drop a note on few intimate editor's talk page, including you! I appreciate if you can have few minutes to spend on reading this thread on my talk page. If you feel that I deserve a scholarship, I appreciate your endorsement on that thread. Please don't consider this an unusual spamming, I don't have any other way of announcing this. Thank you very much! Have a nice day! Jim Carter 12:41, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Jim, I know it feels like forever eh, Yeah I'm alright thanks just done the weekly shop (Not fun lol!), How are you ?, I've just read your statement and quite honestly I'd more than happy to Support :) –Davey2010Talk 15:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for this AFD close. I was waiting for the nominator to confirm his endorsement. His only comment to me started off "If..." which I did not take as a solid endorsement of my suggestion. In this case it was better to wait than to jump the gun and be wrong. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:43, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi davidwr, No worries :), Sorry I didn't mean you or the nom - I actually meant an AFD closer - A few closers patrol the logs so IMHO someone should've closed it sooner but there we go, All done now anyway :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:28, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well, my intent was to get him to withdraw so I could speedy-close it if nobody beat me to the punch. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:43, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- well judging by his reply he wanted to withdraw and redirect instead so you could've perhaps closed it sooner anyway?, Personally I would've just wrapped it up there and then but meh it's closed at long last so "all's good in the hood" as they say. –Davey2010Talk 20:08, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well, my intent was to get him to withdraw so I could speedy-close it if nobody beat me to the punch. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:43, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2015)
Two high divers in mid-air
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For your general understanding. -- Urquhartnite (talk) 20:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC) |
- Wow thank you :) –Davey2010Talk 20:50, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Peter Dinklage
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Please undo the Sasha Gabor AFD close
You closed the AFD almost a full day early, while I was writing up my !vote. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 01:25, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, In that case I'll undo, No one commented on it and to be totally honest I didn't think anyone would but guess I was wrong, I'll undo it now. –Davey2010Talk 01:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done - Thanks for coming here first!, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 01:33, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Google translate is really sluggish tonight, so it took me forever to make sure I had the sources straight. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 02:07, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- No worries :), No doubt once it eventually loaded you probably got irrelevant words & all that
, Google Translator is more known to be wrong than right I think
. –Davey2010Talk 03:14, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- No worries :), No doubt once it eventually loaded you probably got irrelevant words & all that
- Thanks. Google translate is really sluggish tonight, so it took me forever to make sure I had the sources straight. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 02:07, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done - Thanks for coming here first!, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 01:33, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2015)
![]() Transection of a human head
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Please comment on Talk:Edward J. Ruppelt
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Deletion review for Brenda Gerow
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Brenda Gerow. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Regards —☮JAaron95 Talk 19:19, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- JAaron95 You'd think people would have better things to do eh
, Thanks for the heads up - Much appreciated, –Davey2010Talk 19:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- You bet. Anytime. Regards—☮JAaron95 Talk 19:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Carly Fiorina
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AfD closure
Hey, I believe that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margarete Gallinat should have been simply relisted. With only 2-1 I don't really see clear consensus for keep yet, and it ran only 1 week so extension could help getting additional input.--Staberinde (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Staberinde - Personally I think the article's going to be kept anyway but seeing as you asked so nicely and the fact a certain !vote made no sense I'll reopen and relist it for you :), Thanks for coming here first! :) –Davey2010Talk 15:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Done - I've reopened and relisted it for you so hopefully it should gain new comments, Thanks for coming here first - It's very much appreciated :), –Davey2010Talk 15:40, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I felt that DRV would be overkill :)--Staberinde (talk) 16:14, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Haha well you'd be surprised at the amount of idiots who have taken me to DRV, If you think about it I've just saved me getting moaned at and a weeks wait really
, Anyway No worries :), thanks and Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 16:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Haha well you'd be surprised at the amount of idiots who have taken me to DRV, If you think about it I've just saved me getting moaned at and a weeks wait really
- Thanks, I felt that DRV would be overkill :)--Staberinde (talk) 16:14, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Trout for Davey
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Sizzle! An overcooked trout for you, per your request at this discussion. Enjoy! North America1000 23:27, 21 September 2015 (UTC) Don't take this too seriously. It's a joke. |
- Haha nope Northamerica1000 you're bang on - It's most certainly deserved
, The only ever time I haven't followed it and it all had to backfire on me didn't it
, To be fair I was rather busy but that's not an excuse is it
, Thanks for the trout - Let's hope it knocked some sense back in to me
. –Davey2010Talk 23:31, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Oohh I've never had tartar source, This should be nice
, Why do I have a feeling a rather large cake's going to come my way ?
. –Davey2010Talk 00:36, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oohh I've never had tartar source, This should be nice
Speedy deletion nomination of Puja Joshi
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A tag has been placed on Puja Joshi requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Abhishek8150 (talk) 06:54, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure why I got this as I never created it ?, Ah well thanks anyway
. –Davey2010Talk 20:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
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Eubot
The discussion Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 September 22#2001 U(c)S(c) Attack on Afghanistan is now closed, but I thought I should let you know I found out Eubot isn't active any more: see Special:Contributions/Eubot. Thanks, --Rubbish computer 20:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ah I probably should've checked before making that comment!, Thanks for telling me tho, I've now struck that part :), Thanks & Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 20:12, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- You're welcome, I actually left a message on the bot's talk page before realising. --Rubbish computer 19:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi Davey2010, Can you take a look at the above. User:Mr.Bob.298 has came along and created this page today. Below it, is the original page. Seems to duplicate a ton of content. I was planning to review it, but it seems to be kind of odd and I don;t even know if it is genuine. Seems to be a genuine editor though.scope_creep (talk) 17:20, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi scope_creep, Personally I'd say the article goes in to more detail whereas Clinton just lists names so personally I'd say the article's fine, However if you believe it should be deleted then you can always AFD it, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:09, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- That's cool. I think it was the fact it only took an hour or two to write it down that cast the doubt. It's now reviewed. scope_creep (talk) 10:08, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well I assume he was using the preview button before making it live, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:29, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- That's cool. I think it was the fact it only took an hour or two to write it down that cast the doubt. It's now reviewed. scope_creep (talk) 10:08, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I see you reverted my edit. Is it alright to add the rest of the information back as it is all factual and I do not think it breaks any of the criteria? Lucky102 (talk) 22:17, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Lucky102, Your additions were fine bar the persondata :), Could I ask why did you readd it ?, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 22:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Davey2010, I just added it because I thought most if not all articles should have it. It confused me. May I ask why it doesn't work? Thanks! Lucky102 (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Lucky102, Ah ok :), There was a community discussion about it and for different reasons it was deemed useless on here so was basically deprecated, Some of us remove them as we go but considering there's nearly 5 million articles on this site it's impossible to remove every single "persondata" on here so if you see them just remove them - It'd help alot in the long run :), Thanks & Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 22:42, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Davey2010, I just added it because I thought most if not all articles should have it. It confused me. May I ask why it doesn't work? Thanks! Lucky102 (talk) 22:24, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2015)
Personal finance – an example image of personal budget planning software
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Volkswagen emissions violations
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You recently moved the article to Volkswagen emissions testing scandal without consensus agreeing with "testing". Then you closed it. Can you revert the move and the closure? George Ho (talk) 21:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- You're the 2nd person in the space of 10 minutes to make this mistake
- I haven't moved the page ..... I've just closed the discussion but I'll undo the closure to save more of everyone being confused!
. –Davey2010Talk 21:47, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- I've now undone the closure - I swear to christ if someone asks again I will bloody scream!. –Davey2010Talk 21:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Can you undo your... --NeilN talk to me 22:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Can I undo my ....shirt ?, Sure Neil I'm sure you'd love to see my beautiful pecks!!
, That photo is perfect - Think I might wipe the userpage and just use that
. –Davey2010Talk 22:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Can I undo my ....shirt ?, Sure Neil I'm sure you'd love to see my beautiful pecks!!
- Can you undo your... --NeilN talk to me 22:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- I've now undone the closure - I swear to christ if someone asks again I will bloody scream!. –Davey2010Talk 21:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Barnstar of Good Humor |
Keep as meets PORNBIO & GNG - As always this !vote has nothing to do with looks!..... –Davey2010Talk 22:15, 23 September 2015 (UTC) |
- Sorry, but I'm not as amused. This should be renamed the sexist barnstar. More to the point, these keep votes are causing extra work as the non admins relisting debates are taking them seriously, instead of waiting for an admin to come along and ignore your homage to HOTTIE before deleting. AFD really doesn't need the extra work. Spartaz Humbug! 09:07, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks JAaron95
, You need to have a laugh on here otherwise it becomes a bore
,
- Thanks JAaron95
- Spartaz - Most if not all admins ignore the comment so it's not causing any work at all, I appreciate some may see it as sexist but come on how can you say Delete to this
. –Davey2010Talk 11:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Because she fails GNG and PORNBIO. And while admins might be able to see through your vote, the discussions are still getting relisted because of them. That's what is causing the extra work. If you can't bring yourself to offer a policy based comment them there is no reason to poison the well. I suppose at this point I should refer you to the second word in my signature. Spartaz Humbug! 11:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Whether I !vote Keep or Delete the AFD will be relisted anyway - AFDs aren't ever closed on one !vote so whatever I say it'd be relisted - I could say "Keep - I like ponies" and it'd still be relisted
, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this, Meh you're not that bad - There's a few here that are literally the definition of "Buh Humbug"
–Davey2010Talk 11:22, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Whether I !vote Keep or Delete the AFD will be relisted anyway - AFDs aren't ever closed on one !vote so whatever I say it'd be relisted - I could say "Keep - I like ponies" and it'd still be relisted
- Because she fails GNG and PORNBIO. And while admins might be able to see through your vote, the discussions are still getting relisted because of them. That's what is causing the extra work. If you can't bring yourself to offer a policy based comment them there is no reason to poison the well. I suppose at this point I should refer you to the second word in my signature. Spartaz Humbug! 11:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Spartaz - Most if not all admins ignore the comment so it's not causing any work at all, I appreciate some may see it as sexist but come on how can you say Delete to this
AfD closures
Hi. Thank you for closing AfDs. When closing as 'Redirect' please remember to include the 'R from X' template on the redirect page so that it adds the correct message and automatically populates the appropriate category. In the case of this page for example , it would be {{R from school}}. I've done it for you this time - take a look. Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Kudpung - What would I do with out you eh!
, I'm sure this is the 3rd time you've reminded me!, I only ever use "R from" for schools and I rarely close schools these days which is probably it keeps slipping my mind (If I do it more often again I'd probably remember!
), Anyway thanks for the reminder .... I'll probably forget and you'll probably tell me again in a few months
. Thanks & Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 11:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Anti-abortion violence
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- Removed RFC & added note. –Davey2010Talk 01:58, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2015)
Hello, Davey2010.
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A barnstar for you!
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The Barnstar of Good Humor |
You are amazing man! Don't tell anybody but, I have been stalking your talk page since long for the humorous stuff that you stay. With all the stress, how great the world would get if everybody was so light-hearted. You do an excellent job, and you just rock! You must have received plenty of these but here's one more XD Yash! 19:08, 5 October 2015 (UTC) |
- Arr thanks Yash!, I'm not all mad & full of rage contrary to popular belief
, Meh it's good to have a laugh once in a while
- Anyway thanks for the barnstar it's very much appreciated :) –Davey2010Talk 19:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Sorry Mr.Davey2010
I will not add a space again if that is unconstructive. I am extremely sorry but I feel that you should read WP:DTR. ;) Supdiop (T🔹C) 15:51, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Supdiop, No worries we all make mistakes, Don't mean to sound funny but I've not seen your name pop up so I simply assumed you were a newbie here, Even us normal editors get templated ... Unfortunately we can't escape them! :) –Davey2010Talk 15:54, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Sorry Mr. Davey, I feel that I am being harassed. Supdiop (T🔹C) 17:29, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Supdiop: You are not being harassed, you are being given good advice that you are not listening to. --NeilN talk to me 17:32, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Supdiop - NeilN's bang on - You aren't being harassed at all, If you don't edit disruptively you don't get reverted. –Davey2010Talk 17:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Edit disruptively? When? Supdiop (T🔹C) 18:03, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Supdiop - NeilN's bang on - You aren't being harassed at all, If you don't edit disruptively you don't get reverted. –Davey2010Talk 17:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
You can remove my qs if you want to. I am giving you full permission. Supdiop (T🔹C) 19:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day
- Thanks Vatsan34, Doesn't seem I've been here for 3 years (give or take!), Time soon flies!
. Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Barnstar of Diplomacy |
Thanks for resolving the disputed deletion of the article I created. Much love! Ashkaan232 (talk) 23:44, 11 October 2015 (UTC) |
- Ashkaan232, Well I didn't really resolve or even do anything other than close the AFD but thanks anyway
, Love you too darling, –Davey2010Talk 23:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2015)
![]() Costumed performers from the 2006 Bristol Renaissance Faire
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