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== To-do: red plastic gas cans == |
== To-do: red plastic gas cans == |
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To-do: red plastic gas cans
These things are ubiquitous in the US (or at least any part I've been to) but we don't have an article on them. Like, I've only ever seen three consistent models (each different sizes of the same basic pattern) and looking online, it looks like those are the only three models that have been allowed since the gas crisis in the '70s.[original research?]
I've got a lot of other things on my plate, but I think these might be sufficient sources for someone (me, anyone else, whoever) to write up an article on them:
- News article
- News article
- News article
- News article
- News article
- Gov't regulation document
- Gov't regulation document
- Gov't regulation document
- "Non-Profit" run by the companies that make these things (haven't actually read through and found specific pages yet)
The last source definitely doesn't establish WP:NOTE and I'd normally be wary of anyone insisting that it be used. Still, I think they also discuss regulatory info and maybe manufacturing history. Given the news sources (all of which are "oh shit, these things are exploding again" and "please stop doing things to make them explode"), I think it's safe to say that its inclusion probably won't amount to promotion.
I'm not sure that this would accomplish much more than a stub, at least with my usual "summarize, paraphrase, combine overlapping statements" approach. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- I saw this up in your table of contents. Those damned things are a colossal nuisance , I finally found a brand that allows better control of flow and doesn't end up slopping gas all over the lawnmower, generator, or tiller. The mesh screen appears nowadays to be broadly used. They also come in yellow for diesel and blue for kerosene. Acroterion (talk) 01:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I am remembering my dad using blue barrels made of the same material for kerosene back when we had a space heater but yeah, I do see the same design in blue and yellow. (I think he got them on sale, I'm not sure I've seen them in stores ever again, and boy hell were they trouble to get rid of). Guess I need to look for sources on the diesel and kerosene ones and figure out what the industry name is for this family of cans. They're not Jerrycans (which is where gas can currently redirects): they're broader, have a handle on the back, and the stamping on the sides is just embossed warning text (not a structural feature). (I'm sure you know but other talk page watchers who haven't opened the links might be wondering why I want to reinvent the Jerrycan).
- There's another gas can design that I'm seeing, "Safety gas cans," which I suppose needs to be written about as well. Basically squat half-capsule mini-barrels with a handle and spout on the flatly rounded top. They're why I haven't just made "gas can" about the red plastic ones, since we really need "gas can" to be a disambig between the standard plastic, the Jerrycan, and the safety gas cans. Thanks for helping me realize that. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm accumulating a museum of gas cans. I got two of the safety cans after squirrels started eating the plastic ones. After that generation of squirrels died they seem to have stopped munching plastic and confine themselves to the house, so now I have some plastic ones that are easier to handle, and a yellow one in case we run out of heating oil - I can get off-road diesel and use that in a pinch. I think fuel container is a safe generic term. Acroterion (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Semi-Wiki-Break-like thing
I've just been offered a job in Kumamoto and need to focus on that. Not really going to be gone, not logging out, still going to check certain pages for people who shouldn't be on the site, but going to be flakier than usual. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I have made the above script which leaves a message on a user talk page about how to write an article that won't be rejected or deleted using your template in one click. Hope you will like it. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 07:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Draft:Moriba Jah
I saw the question at the Teahouse and am just trying to get my head around the deletion. Was anything except the list of publications copied from the CV? – Joe (talk) 08:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response. I can't recall. I do know I was being a more strict because:
- - their unclear claim that parts of what they posted were "actually auto-populated" suggests they're not actually typing what they're posting
- - any user who repeatedly re-creates the same page immediately after deletion (especially by copying and pasting from the article page, including strings like "[edit source]") is not paying enough attention to say they have addressed a problem or that it doesn't exist
- Ian.thomson (talk) 02:59, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Deletion Friday 4th January
Hi, I have a deletion on Friday 4th January. Your feedback said that 'the nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic'. This is not the case. However, I do volunteer with the organisation. I'm keen to stress that nothing in the edit was false and I have no ulterior motives. As requested, I am not directly or indirectly being compensated for my edits. I just want to get the information out there. You can look at the website (www.impactprofile.org), or see it on the app store or google play (if you're in the UK) to check validity and so forth if you like. Can you recommend the best way to proceed? Thanks for your Help RimaPOD2018. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RimaPOD2018 (talk • contribs) 10:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- @RimaPOD2018: Because you are a volunteer, you have a conflict of interest and still need to disclose your conflict of interest on your userpage as if you were a paid employee. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Cardano ready for submission?
Hello @Ian.thomson:, I pinged you, because I saw you where also previously engaged in Cardano (cryptocurrency platform) talks: contribution. Thank you for your input so far. Do you think this article is ready enough to be submitted as an article for creation? Or do you have any suggestions? If so, please post your comments or just your approval on this talk page. Thank you, --FlippyFlink (talk) 10:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
NVergopolan block and maps by Adam Peterson
As far as I understand, the user NVergopolan was blocked about a month ago for posting maps already posted in a scientific paper she was the co-author of. Although as far as I know she is still blocked, her uploaded maps are still on Wikimedia Commons [1] I myself am guilty of adding two of her maps to wikipedia pages because Adam Peterson (Redtitan) didn't have any maps uploaded yet. The maps Adam Peterson has uploaded seem to be at the same resolution as most of the maps uploaded by NVergopolan. The two main differences between her maps and Adam Peterson's maps are that they use a different isotherm to determint the boundary between Köppen D and C type climates (0°C versus the standard -3°C), and that they are cut directly from an equirectangular projection of a world map rather than using a projection optimized to reduce distortion at higher latitudes for northern countries. I am trying to contact Adam Peterson to see if he can redo the maps done by NVergopolan to correct for distortion at higher latitudes, but I just want to find out if the maps may still be added to Wikipedia pages by other users or if they all need to be deleted because of the rule violation.Rigognos Molinarios (talk) 21:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
AE appeal
FYI. Copied it to AE, since you made it enforcing an AE sanction, but it isn't logged that way, so you may want to note it at WP:AELOG/2019. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:20, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: Ok. It didn't occur to me when I made the block that it'd count as that since I'm not ArbCom but oh well. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Content Deletion from "Turkish Coffee"
I noticed a Revision to the Turkish coffee page. From what I can tell you deleted it because "Violations of copyright policy:". I had a chance to read it before it was deleted. There's some remarkable information there that maybe valid on a different page and sourced. Anyway to give it some due attention? IT's certainly controversial because there was an Armenian genocide. Too bad that the user posted from an unnamed IP address because I'd like to know more (and hang onto some skepticism while hearing it.)
Liberty5651 (talk) 19:25, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Liberty5651: The content was interesting but it is expressly against Wikipedia policy to post copyrighted material on the site. It is a policy with legal implications.
- While the information is interesting, the source in question does not meet our reliable sourcing standards: it cites Wikipedia for some of its claims.
- While the Armenian genocide was an unacceptable tragedy that does deserves attention comparable to the Holocaust, and while I view any denialists of either event as not belonging here, I think the best approach to avoid any potential accusations of nationalism of any sort is to stick to neutral academic sources focused on the history of coffee.
- I hate coffee, so I have no dog in the fight. I'd go through Google Books but I've got to work on my visa. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:27, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Block Caedmon Scop
I believe I was logged in when you accused me of trying to hide my identity. You might have easily asked me to identify myself, as opposed to upholding the ban on the fact that I did not. On what illiterate world is saying "I'm more than happy to provide my name" evidence of not being willing to provide one's name? This seems like left-wing solipsism to me. Perhaps you might at least ban me on some logical ground for the sake of appearances. Wouldn't want the proles to catch wind. Caedmon scop (talk) 20:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, WP:NPA, there's a reason. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:23, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- And for the benefit of any talk page watchers: Caedmon scop's IP address (but not account) was blocked for editing while logged out. The evidence thereof was the IP threatening to log in to "escalate" an edit war. I didn't carry out that block, just declined the unblock request on grounds of WP:NOTTHEM and WP:NOTVAND. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Family of Susana Mendoza, not paid
Hello, Ian. Thank you for the note. Websusanamendoza user is David Szostak, Susana's husband. I'm not paid by the campaign and we've fully disclosed who we are (from the beginning, back in 2011) with an appropriate username. Susana reviews the Wiki page and I edit it based on good Wiki practices. We both want it to stay clean and factual - like anyone else and just like Wiki says her article "is at increased risk of biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism. We're here to follow the rules. What are the next steps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Websusanamendoza (talk • contribs) 17:56, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Websusanamendoza: Read the instructions I've already left on your talk page. Disclose your conflict of interest on your user page (User:Websusanamendoza).
- The phrase "biased editing" includes those with ties to the subject, not just those opposed to the subject. That is why you were never supposed to edit the article to begin with. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:09, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- We understand that, Ian. But as you can see, you're the first person to mention this since 2010. And it goes without say, this is a high profile campaign where biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism will happen faster. Review our changes and we'll accept the outcome, hence the note to TDKR Chicago 101. We're not trying to create or hide our conflicts of interest.
Websusanamendoza (talk) 18:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Mark Dice
Mark Dice is AWESOME 🌟 and TRUE NEWS!!!!! Background: I have sided with Dice exactly 0 times in that discussion and I am explicitly mocked at the 2:20 mark in that video. Not that I get a say in such things but I think blocking someone because they post off-site criticism of Wikipedia is not great. While it was meat puppetry I think this is a case where discretion would have been the better part of valor. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:51, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49: If it was just criticism, I wouldn't have blocked. He knows he has a following and he's using it in bad faith to get what he wants without regard to our policies. I recommend reporting the video (and his comment linking to the talk page) for harassment. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well in my case it might have started, should be fun times.Slatersteven (talk) 16:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Slatersteven: If I'm on and I see further incidents (on your page and a few other), I'll semi-protect. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- No need, it does not overly worry me.Slatersteven (talk) 16:17, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ok then. It looks like it's just a few folks going to random pages because they don't know what they're doing (...I mean, if they did, they'd be taking a different approach). Ian.thomson (talk) 16:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- No need, it does not overly worry me.Slatersteven (talk) 16:17, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Slatersteven: If I'm on and I see further incidents (on your page and a few other), I'll semi-protect. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:15, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well in my case it might have started, should be fun times.Slatersteven (talk) 16:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- You are obviously biased or at least WP:INVOLVED on the topic of Mark Dice's biography and his off-wiki canvassing. However, that does not allow you to indiscriminately indef new accounts. Please notify WP:AN or something because these blocks are not uncontroversial. wumbolo ^^^ 16:47, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Most of those accountants (being very generous) have just posted rants about how unfair Wikipedia is, and snide comments.Slatersteven (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- And all of them were unaware of WP:TALK. wumbolo ^^^ 17:01, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Were they, all the blocked accounts, even the ones who have been here for years? Even after I posted this [[2]], which tells any one who read it the talk page is for discussing the article, not a soapbox?Slatersteven (talk) 17:11, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- And all of them were unaware of WP:TALK. wumbolo ^^^ 17:01, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Most of those accountants (being very generous) have just posted rants about how unfair Wikipedia is, and snide comments.Slatersteven (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) None of you asked but the recent batch of accounts are
Unrelated to User:MarkDice and
Unlikely to each other. But, as someone who had to look up just who Mark Dice is (and also an accountant fwiw) I endorse these blocks per WP:MEAT and per Arbcom direction on what to do with obvious meatpuppets (which, in my opinion, includes long-idle accounts waking up in response to a blatant canvass). Please copy this comment if anyone feels the need to escalate the issue to one of the admin noticeboards. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)