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Please revert your edits. There is an official [[Israeli Singles Chart]], not only the one at charts.co.il. [[User:Edenc1|'''Edenc1''']] • [[User_talk:Edenc1|'''Talk''']] 13:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
Please revert your edits. There is an official [[Israeli Singles Chart]], not only the one at charts.co.il. [[User:Edenc1|'''Edenc1''']] • [[User_talk:Edenc1|'''Talk''']] 13:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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Ok. I didn't kew that that chart was on the "Badcharts" list. I think i doesn't have dubious methodology but if it is the general though, i won't include it again. Thanks =). |
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Vanessa Hudgens 2
Juanacho has removed some information AGAIN in the Vanessa Hudgens page. So, since you basically evaluated the page, could you tell him to stop doing those stuff? Please?? I really want to expand the article but he keeps on removing IMPORTANT stuff. Could he get a restraining order from editing that page? He seems to be the only one who keeps on removing stuff there. Kikkokalabud (talk)
- What is your problem? The article uses fan language, and exaggerates the information, I try to discuss. (for example film production, cast, grossing) Juanacho (talk)
Vanessa Hudgens
Hey, I've recently "expanded" the Vanessa Hudgens page. Would it be OK if you evaluate it? I just want to make sure if Juanancho's claims are even legit. He/she's been reverting edits in that page. Thanks for your time! Kikkokalabud (talk)
- Just like details on the career section. I just don't see why Juanancho's been doing all this stuff to that particular page. From start, I admit, I've been wanting to expand the Vanessa Hudgens page. And everytime I do so, he/she objects to them and revert my edits. Just like the alleged rumors he/she claims about Hudgens' involvement in Dead@17. There was a source that says she's already attached. And some details about how critics have expressed their praises towards Hudgens. I've based my edits on numerous artists' articles and they were included. So I don't see no reason why they are being removed numerously by Juanancho. Could you talk to him or something? I really want to report him/her. Kikkokalabud (talk)
- I just reviewed the article, and appears a lot information about her projects and not about her, for example film production information and details of the singles and album promotion, which already appears in the articles cited. Also, information about nude photos already appear in the "controversy" section and other appearances at events and auditions that didn't happened that are not relevant in the article.Juanacho (talk)
Falling Down
How is Twitter a bad source if it is literally her saying what happened? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- You are gaining the knowledge of when the music video was filmed, which readers would want to know about and why would she lie about it? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- It's not like it's super important, but it is notable enough. Plus, obviously the video was shot after the song was recorded (which is not known) and before its release. The exact date is better. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I don't understand your view of a better source than a magazine and the actual artist stating it. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- O.K. You were right. That was a weak example, but per the tweet http://twitter.com/selenagomez/status/3319998684, it was filmed on August 15, 2009. This one DOES give a date. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I don't understand your view of a better source than a magazine and the actual artist stating it. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- It's not like it's super important, but it is notable enough. Plus, obviously the video was shot after the song was recorded (which is not known) and before its release. The exact date is better. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- You are gaining the knowledge of when the music video was filmed, which readers would want to know about and why would she lie about it? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- What about this one, http://twitter.com/selenagomez/status/3330282759?
- I think it should be stated, she is on set filming it because she is saying that a picture of the music video is coming soon. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Why is Twitter not a real source? Magazines, newspapers, and MTV news wouldn't make a report just on how she said she was filming a video that day. And even if they did, it would be based on all of the tweets she made - ex: the Examiner (which was used earlier), http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1617283/20090730/cyrus__miley.jhtml, and http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1618671/20090813/gomez__selena.jhtml. So if reliable sources like those use Twitter as a source, so should we. It is never going to be explicitly said: "Filming my music video for "Falling Down" right now, on August 15." It is a SOURCE. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am stressing over it because it is known, and if you can add it, "why not?" -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Why is Twitter not a real source? Magazines, newspapers, and MTV news wouldn't make a report just on how she said she was filming a video that day. And even if they did, it would be based on all of the tweets she made - ex: the Examiner (which was used earlier), http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1617283/20090730/cyrus__miley.jhtml, and http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1618671/20090813/gomez__selena.jhtml. So if reliable sources like those use Twitter as a source, so should we. It is never going to be explicitly said: "Filming my music video for "Falling Down" right now, on August 15." It is a SOURCE. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think it should be stated, she is on set filming it because she is saying that a picture of the music video is coming soon. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Edits
Hey kww, just making sure about something. If on a page lets say it says something sold or made a certain amount of money, and there is no source either there or in the body of the page, can I remove that?Im pretty sure that it falls under my bounds being that its basic editing, but just bc its a number I just want to make sure.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 06:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Well usually I would put a [CN] for that kind of figure, but for this case tell me your opinion. The page I saw is The Adventures of Mimi and in the second paragraph it says it grossed over $26 million, and its based on the not completed chart total that was deleted. So what do you suggest be done for that?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Requested chart
Per request at WT:RFA, I made File:Enwiki Admin Activity 09 2009.png. It shows that 25% of our most active admins are long-term inactive and that another 15% are at least less active then they use to be. MBisanz talk 12:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
i was right
Seems your over undoing all my Broken Hearted Girl pages didnt work. Theres a full page up now + uve been proven wrong. sorry i LOVE to gloat. Blazemon (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
OMG if you had just sed that in the first place we wouldnt have a problem Blazemon (talk) 16:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
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Petergriffin9901
I'd like to bring something to your attention as it seems that Petergriffin9901 edits are all about praise Mariah Carey and discraise other female artists, even after last discussion about this. Before he was blocked, Petergriffin9901 was constantly inflating Mariah Carey sales. Now he is lowering the sales of other female artists.
1. On the My Love Is Your Love album page Petergriffin9901 changed the text under "When You Believe" from "Performed by Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey" to "Performed by Mariah Carey & Whitney Houston". Clearly, so that Carey could be first. According to him even in her own article, Houston can not have her name before Carey. Petergriffin9901 justified his edit saying: "Their names are in that order on the single cover". Just like that, without any effort and dispite the fact that this article is about an album. Well, although I'm not a Whitney Houston fan, I did some searching and after just few minutes I know that on Houston’s album it is written: "When You Believe" (Duet with Mariah Carey from ‘’The Prince Of Egypt’’). And about the single cover - Carey is first on the international releases, but the U.S. covers have Houston's name first.
2. I understand that Petergriffin9901 should ask you before changing numbers. But what about this kind of changes: on Just Whitney he changed text from "has sold approximately one million" to "has sold less than one million". Number stays the same but the meaning does not. Of course he did it so that Houston look worse. But that’s not all. The source given there says clearly: "The album sold only three million copies worldwide, less than a million of which were in the US." And Petergriffin9901 wrote: "Just Whitney has sold less than one million copies worldwide." How can he justify that? I assume he changed it after reading the source.
3. Above are the latest changes. One moth ago, on the “One Sweet Day” he changed the text from “one of the biggest American hits of both Carey's and Boyz II Men's careers” to “the biggest song in Billboard's history” without any references. And he won’t find them as this song is not what he claims it is. Again, all that just for Carey to be the best of all, to glorify her.
I’d like to know your opinion about these edits, especially that Petergriffin9901 is still on probation. And if somehow he will be able to edit Wikipedia on his own, I know there will be many conflicts as he really hasn't changed. Max24 (talk) 22:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, I can explain those two changes. For the Whitney Houston album page, this is the source it had (i did not add it) http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/artists/Whitney-Houston/38 and as you can see it says it sold 3 million copies worldwide and less than a million were in the usa, making what the article said (approximately one million in the usa) not true. All I changed was from that to less than a million in the usa, which is what the source says. 2. for the song on the whitney album 'my love is your love' all i did was change it from whitney houston and mariah carey to mariah carey and whitney houston. The reason is simply because i previously saw that on the article and article cover art and single cover it was written with mariah careys name first, just a simple edit here is the page so u can see it, the page for the song When You Believe. All Max24 is trying to do is sabotage me in every way possible, if you review what i just presented you will see that non of my edits were fake or out of my probation range, Max24 is just throwing any edit i make in hope of getting me banned. Please let me know once you reviewed this,thanks kww.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
One more thing kww, I did not write it sold 1 million worlwide, if you review the change before mine compared to mine youll see I didnt change the words united states to worldwide, I didnt even read that part, all i changed were the words APPROXIMATELY to LESS THAN.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Basically Just Whitney is a typo, i was supposed to change the worldwide to United States, but all I got to change was approximately to less than. It was supposed to say exactly like the source, that 'In the united states the album sold less than 1 million. I agree it would have been better to write 3 million worldwide, but as i said it was a typo.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 12:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I understand what your sayin and agree, I wasnt careful enough. But I want to explain that I didnt change the order of the names to glorify Carey, but because I went to its page and its mentioned like that on the page and on the photo and single cover. That is the only reason. Were you able to look at the last comment I left you about eminem?thanks.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Venezuela charts
Is this chart a part of WP:GOODCHARTS? If so I failed to find it there. And another request, please deal with the above user's request. Petergriffin has been doing the same thing with Madonna articles also. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with what Im doing to the Madonna articles. All I do is review the sources for total album sales, and if it says differently then I change it. You just want to blame it on the fact that it has something to do with Carey. I do the same to her discography page and album pages, if the sales are inflated then I change them.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 12:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Eminem
Hey kww, on the above mentioned in the opening paragraph, i would like to make a change but want to double check with you. It says he sold over 80 million albums and is the best selling artist of the decade. Now first of all these 2 things are not sourced, the source says something else. Second britney spears is the biggest selling artist of the decade not him and there are no sources. So what I would like to do is remove the part that says that he is the biggest selling artist of the decade and put a source for the total album sales being 75 M not 80 M ...this is the source Look Here...thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Thats what I was just going to show you but it didnt post because of 'edit conflict'. I found that also on the britney page as well, so I would like to add both of those sources and change it from 80M to 75M and the best selling artist in the United States in the 2000s. Look Here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 13:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
So which do you want to me to put, of the decade or of the 2000s? and making sure that that is in the united states right?not worldwide.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, all of the eminem album pages are very inflated, look at his album pages and discography pages they are all wrong, im going to change them--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
1. Eminem album (encore) it says it sold 20M globally, with no source. I want to put this source which is used in the discography which says 11M Look Here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 14:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
What is your response?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Turkey Top 20
Hi, I'm updating this chart here on wiki and I have an problem. Link to official Turkey Top 20 chart (on Billboard.tr) is not working anymore. I don't know what to do. Have you got sugestion? Thank You --SveroH (talk) 13:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
well, when i try to go to site it says that that web site can not be found. Last week was everything right, and from Monday there is some problem with site. --SveroH (talk) 13:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- thank you --SveroH (talk) 13:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I have just saw question about Croatian singles chart. I'm from Croatia and I'm doing music articles on hr(croatian) wiki. We use Open (Otvoreni) radio as source for Croatian singles chart. We in Croatia don't have official singles chart 8for singles that are not Croatian), but we use Open Radio as source because it plays only music from outside Croatia and it is 3rd most listend radio in Croatia. Open radio singles chart For Croatian music we use this site. It is an official Croatian singles chart but only for Croatian music. --SveroH (talk) 13:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- oh, I didn't know about single network charts. Thanks. I agreen with you. Problem is that we in Croatia don't have official singles chart for singles from outside Croatia, we only have HRTOP20, as you mentioned there], but HRTOP20 is only for Croatian singles. --SveroH (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
soundguardian - well i don't know I'll see. I'll try to find something then I'll tell you. --SveroH (talk) 13:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
soundguardian again - hi I have checked few croatian charts (link link link link link link). On soundguardian says that "I Gotta Feeling" is the most listened song in Croatia. Look on other charts. "I Gotta Feeling" is only on 1 chart. "Paparazzi" is very high too. I haven't found that song on any other chart. "Parla Con Me" - same as Paparazzi. So I think that soundguardian is not good chart. --SveroH (talk) 14:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Stop
These are good edits fix it yourself or let it be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.91.20.43 (talk) 01:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC) Look there are a million computers in the world so it is futile for you to continue as me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.91.20.43 (talk) 01:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Regarding this...
...Thank you. I am not sure what that was all about and asked the editor on his talk page (hopefully my section heading there is not too accusatory as it may have just been an accident or misunderstanding). Anyway, take care. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 02:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
The Adventures of Mimi / Encore (album)
Hey kww, I really tried finding a source for both of these pages that weve discussed, and I havent been able to find a source for mimi, or a more current one for eminem. So I am going to proceed and do those two changes as agreed. Thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Mariah Carey discography
Hey kww, in the above mentioned page it says mariah has sold 160 million records. I dont believe this is reliable nor true, so I looked for some sources. I found at least 5 sources that I believe are reliable that say over 200 million albums. Im going to post them so you can review tham.Thanks!
Let me know your feedback, so in the future I can judge whether something is reliable...thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 02:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I noticed now, but thats only on the first two sources. Can you look at the other 3?thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I mean the 3rd-5th doesnt mention that, and the currnet source given on the page is a fansite, so thats why I feel like the bottom 3 would better represent.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Alright then, Ill just look for some more..:)--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, I found a source from reuters and a few more,take a look.
Let me know what you think..thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
LOL!this is annoying. OK, my question is, lets say Max24 reverts it and his reason is its not reliable, cant you judge and see. I mean I have like 13 sources already, whether some are quotes from wiki or not, but that is 13 and I have a few more..lol. If you dont want to get involved between us,I understand and all i ask is that you review the last 4 sources I have, so I know which ones to present on the talk page. Because Im being honest, Max24 will never agree whether I show him billboard, reuters or anything.
Let me know what you think of these last 4. Im going to post a few on the talk page, Ill post the Fusetv, the insider and if you approve of any of these 4...BTW, Lets say I have like 2 or 3 editors that agree and Mx24 doesnt, doesnt that overrule him?thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
More Sources
Hey kww, I have found a few more sources.
Im not sure if you saw these yet?
thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
And even without single which even billboard says she sold over 40 million of, if you add up the current wiki numbers in the discography (which arent all right) it add up to over 170M--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Falling Into You / Let's Talk About Love
Hey kww, I have made a few small edits to these two pages. Im just bringing them to your attention because I know they are territiory of max24. The sources for both were only sources for RIAA certifications, so I changed it from saying 10 million sold in USA and 10 million here to what the source showed which was only RIAA certifications. The worldwide sales of these two albums I left untouched, as they have sources. The reason I feal these edits are in my bounds are because they are clearly contradicting the present source, and all Im doing is rewriting the sentence to mirror the source. I hope you approve as Im really trying to be careful and consistence. So please take a look, thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 10:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I sort of get you, my question is, that lets say it says the abum sold almost 12 million in the usa, and then the source just says certified 10x platinum, what should i do?was it a smart move to change it to just 10x P...thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 14:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Good, thats what I thought and did, as it did directly contradict the source. And I know that it isnt going to be certified differently because the albums 15 years old.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 14:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
BTW, Im still waiting for people to agree or disagree on the MCdiscography talk page. When there are a few opinions Ill let you know...:)--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 14:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Charts
I didn't know that, but thanks for telling me, I'll try to find more information from the websites you mentioned. Thanks a lot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uvero (talk • contribs) 11:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Talk on Falling Down
Since he does talk to you, can you convince him to help settle an agreement in Talk:Falling Down (Selena Gomez & the Scene song). I have already wrote a few things, myself. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 03:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Israeli Singles Char
Hi again. I was always wondering if this is an official Israeli singles chart. I've found in a lot of articles link to this web site. I looked to WP:GOODCHARTS, but i haven't found it there. So, is this official singles chart? --SveroH (talk) 08:22, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks --SveroH (talk) 13:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Re: this edit - d'oh! Now why didn't I think of that? Obvious when you know how, eh? ;-) TFOWRThis flag once was red 13:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Dewan357 sock back as Aamirshkh
Looks like Dewnans sock is back again after his indefinate block hes back on the same articles pushing his pov:[1] same old articles same pov could you use the checkuser please. I suggest you semiprotect the target pages to deal with his sock accounts thankyou. 86.158.232.138 (talk) 15:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Noindex
I just learned something from you, when you added {{NOINDEX}} to a page. I presume you did so because it contained some copyvio, correct? If that is so, then maybe more people should be aware of that. — Sebastian 16:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- It's not that it's a copyvio, it's that it isn't a real article yet (and won't be until you put it back in article space). Google doesn't understand the difference, and presents a user-space article just like a real one. I don't make any judgment about content, it's just to make sure the outside world doesn't see a non-article as being an article.—Kww(talk) 16:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- I see. I like this because it gives users more time, since it relieves a bit of the pressure to bring userfied pages up to snuff quickly. — Sebastian 16:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thank you --SveroH (talk) 19:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
71.51.105.87 / 78.174.118.202
Hey kww, these two IP vandals have been clearly vandalizing and Ive given them warnings as have others. 71.51.105.87 has been warned 3 times in the last few days and has just vandalized again, and 78.174.118.202 has been warned over 10 times, and has just finished a 3 day block. Please review these as I believe they deserve a full block, thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
RE: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna-Maria Galojan
Thanks for the noindex heads up :) --Saalstin (talk) 13:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
true
you do have a point but wasn't there an actual charting on the Hot 100 on billboard.com --Lizari (talk) 16:13, 13 September 2009 (UTC) indefenitly -Liza --Lizari (talk) 16:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Roger Garth revisited (briefly)
Good catch! I didn't know the backstory, but after seeing that a prior involved account was User:Liddelll, the block was pretty straightforward. Done. —C.Fred (talk) 16:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- I remember the Jaydon incident(s), but I don't remember Garth. —C.Fred (talk) 19:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Boom Boom Pow
Don't know how I misread that. Thanks for the correction. --MartinezMD (talk) 20:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
The Marshall Mathers LP
Hey kww, in the reception part of this article it says the album has sold 10M to date in the USA and its sourced. Then in the chart farther down the page it says 11M sold with no source. So I would like to change it to 10M in the chart because that is was is sourced in the above paragraph. Let me now what you think and thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 22:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, I found a source from Rolling Stones magazine, claiming it to have sold around 9.4 million in the USA. This is the source Look Here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
What do you think of the new source?.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 00:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Growth Hormones
Would you say the recent edit made by 207.233.85.131 on this page is vandalizm?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Pastor Theo SPI case
Hey there. Because the Pastor Theo incident is still a sensitive matter, do you think you could forward it to the functionaries mailing list directly, rather than listing it at SPI? Thanks, NW (Talk) 02:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, ArbCom is taking care of that situation. There is no need for a separate SPI case for this. It's been delisted and tucked away in the darkest corners of Wikipedia. Besides, the Arbitrators are also CheckUsers, so they would see the exact same thing as the SPI CheckUsers would. Regards, MuZemike 03:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I'm at a loss to understand what makes this sensitive. I would recommend that this go to the funct. mailing list iff they posted results publicly. Protonk (talk) 03:04, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- It's just being handled in one place - not really necessary to set up an SPI page, and since ArbCom has decided not to reveal all the previously connected accounts (at least, not yet) the SPI case wouldn't be very useful anyway. Nathan T 03:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
What is wrong with you
..it states here that multiple accounts are allowed and that "If you have a negative track record and you have decided to make a genuine, clean, and honest new start, and do not wish it to be tarnished by your prior conduct, you can simply discontinue using the old account(s), and create an unconnected new account which becomes the only account you then use, and is used in a good manner"......and thats EXACTLY what im doing and im not using my old account....but everytime i create a new account i get blocked....i dont get it........and im not vandalizing anything...if you check my contributions, all im doing is trying to improve the articles and putting reliable sources and adding correct information..."
Allicansayissalute (talk) 13:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that...
I think that "Shootmeplz" account really was legit; he admitted from the get-go that he worked for the guy and the account was created to defend his actions. First edit was to my talk page, not surprisingly. Given his co-worker's behavior, I think the block is justified if only to keep that co-worker from further shenanigans via the account. The thing that bugs me the most is that these hassles started after I unblocked the accounts. Oh, the fun we have here. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 14:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I noticed this image first when it was tagged on 22:14, 13 September 2009 - and then looked at User:Teammelarky and at that point there was nothing on the page. I then saw it on the speedy delete queue two days later and, remembering the state of the user page, just switched it, I should have double-checked - because the 'sock' notice didn't go up until 00:53, 14 September 2009. I did double-check the source [2] which shows it as a legit image, and rather than go through the hassle of deleting it and then re-uploading it and putting it back on the page, simply marked it as 'unused non-free'. If it were a fake/incorrect/(c) violation image I would have deleted it outright, as that's sadly the norm with socks' uploads. Skier Dude (talk) 23:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Please help with The Time of Our Lives (EP). I was adding the allmusic review meanwhile it had said Wikipedia was being maintained and the article has gone completely blank. Please help restore this. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- O.K. Thank you. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Indian Chart
Are you aware of any music charts pertaining to India? Silly for me to ask, but still. I thought IndiaFM top 100 is the only reliable source i found which is a airplay chart based on requests. --Legolas (talk2me) 06:33, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Brexx returns?
May want to take a look this user. — ξxplicit 23:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Double Disc CD
Hey kww, are albums that come with 2 CDs still counted as double RIAA certifications?Like if an album ships 1.5 million copies, but is a double disc will it be certfied 3x platinum?I'm pretty sure it used to be like that, but I'm not sure if that still applies.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
100 Greatest Singers / IMDB
Hey kww, I have this source that is used in many famous singers pages. I would like to apply this source to a few singers pages. Here is the source, tell me what you think Look Here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
And I would like to add some info (mainly nicknames) using this site, do you think its good enough to mention the stars nicknames ect?. Look Here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Brexx
Hi Kww, please don't create a second Brexx report while one is open. Thanks, Nathan T 15:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
RE: Something's wrong
Whoops! I think I have it fixed now. Thanks for letting me know! — Kralizec! (talk) 23:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Notification
Hejsan, Kww. I'm posting to let you know that I have listed you as an editor who had an unsuccessful RfA in the not-too-recent, not-too-distant past on the talk page for RfA's here. If you are interested in running for administratorship (or not), or if you would like to make any comments, feel free to join the discussion. If you might be interested, but would like some private confidential feedback from experienced observers, I would be happy to propose this via the new vetting service. Regards, Skomorokh 18:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry
This is my first time participating in RFC. Joe Chill (talk) 17:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Examples Galore
- It appears we have to indulge your burst of coprophilia. Could you please provide ISBNs for this book and for The Truth About Poop and Poop: A Natural History of the Unmentionable? from RHaworth on my other account.
- You are not welcome here. Go away. I don't need to. Stop trolling and go away. Reverted to revision 306969051 by Esradekan; actually, lets just cut this crap out - it's unrelated to the deletion discussion - if you want to insult me use my talk page. removed trolling totally irrelevant to the deletion discussion Michig got away with all of that because everybody sided with him at ANI. That was on this account. I wonder where he read the invisible insult at. Joe Chill (talk) 21:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I find your berating of people who have a differing point of view than yours invalid. The !vote stands, it is not invalid and you can go read WP:AGF and WP:DICK until the cows come home. Do you know what I have been doing while you have been rambling on and making a mockery of this AfD? From NeutralHomer on this account. Everyone said that it wasn't a personal attack.
- I believe you are truly more intelligent than that. From Edison on this account. He got away with it because everyone said that it wasn't a personal attack.
- Joe, I'd like to point out you're coming across as the Wikipedia equivalent of the grumpy old man who comes out on his front porch and yells at the neighborhood kids who step on his lawn. From Hullaballoo Wolfowitz on this account. Everyone said that it wasn't a personal attack.
- Harasser Imnotacoolguy harassed me with sockpuppets and no admin would help me because I didn't explain the problem in an essay at ANI.This is on my other account.
- I'll refrain from !voting but some of the comments here are laughable and not based upon reading the "sources" presented (here's a clue, one is immediately out because it's user submitted). However, this is a great example of why AFD is broken, all I see here is a lot of people voting keep because their friends have voted keep or because they saw a notice at the article Canvass Squad. how many people have rushed to add those 'vital' sources to article? oh look it's zero. Uncivil? - let's have a quoteThe civility guideline is important, but it's not as important as people think. I was told that calling someone lazy was uncivil when the user was obviously lazy to not look at the sources. Why do so many editors put words in my mouth? Joe Chill (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
- Um, no. You've erected a straw man to attack. Of course every criminal is not notable, but the GNG and ONEEVENT doesn't mean that a criminal has to have someone's thesis written about his life or a major motion picture made about his exploits before he meets the notability guidelines. Another user putting words in my mouth.
- I don't remember the name of the article, but when I nominated a book for deletion, the creator constantly assumed bad faith towards me by questioning my motives.
- There has been many AFDs where editors kept on saying that I was uncivil when I wasn't. I guess their belief is that everyone that particpates a lot in a long AFD is uncivil. Joe Chill (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for siding with people that do things like call me a troll, tell me to leave Wikipedia, say that I'm attracted to feces (not a joke), nominate articles of mine for deletion to be pointy (including someone using a sockpuppet to do so). Another user that says that I'm to blame for it all. On those, zero policies were broken by me except when they were responses to people calling me a troll or assuming bad faith. I'm not sure what WP:CIVIL means anymore. Joe Chill (talk) 03:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
Hey kww, can you take a look at this page and look at the edits Promotion and Release and tell me what you think. It says the album leaked today on the internet, and there is some bogus source attached to it. Please tell me what you think.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 18:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
i think that this and this images should be deleted. I'm I right? --SveroH (talk) 18:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Frustration
I understand your frustration with regard to AN, but I would be remiss in my duties as an editor if I did not point out that under RFC rules, an RFC cannot result in an involuntary sanction on a user. Failure for a user to adjust their behavior following an RFC can lead to a ban discussion at WP:AN or the filing of an arbitration case at WP:A/R, but on its own, the consensus of an RFC will not lead to a ban, so it is probably best to either amend your comment or not tout that as the main purpose of your comment, since it won't happen. MBisanz talk 22:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Moved comment
I moved your comment to Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/A_Nobody#Comment_on_various_proposals_from_Casliber. Hope I wasn't stepping on toes, but this RfC will get much more complicated if we get into the practice of adding an "oppose" section alongside endorsements. Protonk (talk) 16:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Mariah Carey discography
Hey kww, Ive waited a while and there is a user with a long history of edits that agrees with my changes on the talk page. Oddly there hasnt been any other comments. So can you tell me what you think about going through with the change.Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 22:55, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Why havent you been answering me?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 04:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Google News
I'm well aware. When I say "news feeds" I understand everything it encompasses. My point was to illustrate the fact that the basic google search brought up nothing (from the context of the discussion) and even google news, which obviously narrows the field in terms of reliability, also offered nothing. I'm very meticulous when it comes to fact taking, and I've never taken every single hit that comes off google news as pure gospel and never will. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 23:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
SPI / Brexx
Actually, I asked you not to create a new SPI case when one is already open. The one you just edited was, in fact, already closed and archived. Perhaps you can revert and try again? Nathan T 19:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- Replied to your question on my talkpage. Nathan T 19:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Sacagawea
Per the log, you protected the article for 0 seconds, not 6 months.—Kww(talk) 18:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Um... I think you messaged the wrong person. I protected the article for ten days two weeks ago. -- tariqabjotu 19:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Mariah Carey discography
Hey kww, Max24 has added some other source for total sales saying 175 million. The only problem is that you cant read the content of the source, as it is in white backround. Also Id like for you to see which you think is more reliable, his that you cant read, or my 5 that you approved of. Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
You really believe that thats more reliable than the five sources I have.?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 14:32, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Re:Celebration
Sorry. I've made a mistake once again. Sometimes, I don't realise what I am reverting. I assumed because of the source url, it did not directly lead to a specific issue of the chart. That is why I stated it as unsourced. Obviously, I was wrong. I should of viewed the reference before making judgement. Shame on me. • вяαdcяochat 11:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
AfD and behaviour
I think you pretty much nailed it with your last post there. Too much of that talk page concentrates on this side issue, and I don't want to take up any more space there.
It seems to be some kind of received wisdom that the 'atmosphere', 'environment' or whatever of AfD is a cause of problems and proof that the process needs reform. Of course this then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as people justify their own behaviour because they see themselves or their views as threatened. It's a dangerous precedent to allow laxer standards of behaviour 'just because it's AfD'.
I think that the conduct of participants in general could be discussed on the process page. Behaviour of individuals needs to be considered individually, as you say. pablohablo. 13:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Laundry Service
Hey kww, for weeks already this page has been recieving much vandalizm from anonymous IPs. Can you please help me have this page semi-protected.Thanks?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
massive vandalism
i was doing some edits on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile and i noticed massive vandalism done by people using anonymous ip addresses, i was wondering if you could protest that page, and make it so that only registered members could edit it.
Reviews for question
Hey kww, I have a few reviews that I would like to show you. I want to place these in the memoirs of an imperfect angel page as professional reviews.
Toronto Sun Look Here
Boston Herald Look Here
Newsday Look Here
Let me know what you think about these three.Thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Well to be honest I dont want to answer that and then get accused of giving the most favorable reviews to Carey. Im going to really give my honest answer and why.
1.I dont understand why I have a very positive newsday review and the article has a very negative one?Id like to switch them or combine them and write (mixed).
2.I think the boston herald should replace either the la times or ny times, i looked through them and the boston one seems more official.
3.And maybe we can just add the Toronto Sun as an extra p review, you know, add one more review. Let me know what you think.Thanks!--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 03:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, I copied and pasted on google and these 2 came up, and I cant tell which site it belongs too. Here are the 2
As for the review, as I said there isnt much to point out. In my eyes it looks like a more official post and article and is judged on a more precise score (letters with + or - not just 4 or 5 stars). Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 16:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I thought you wanted me to find you the original page for the article, because you said newsdayisnt the right page, as we already have a newsday review. I guess I misunderstood you.--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, what do you think about this source, Im not sure what to make of it Look Here--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, I dont mean to bother you, I'm just wondering. What did bambifan101 do that has caused so much buzz?I mean the way people are talking, It sounds as if he has surpassed usual vandalism?--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 05:59, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey kww, A few days ago the prince blog was used in the eminem discography for albums sales. The sales have a relable source already and since prince blog isnt a good source, can I rebvert it?Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 23:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Re:Bit of Trivia
Sorry for replying so late, was on a break. I heard that "Paparazzi" is being used in SET channel. But what is a "medium"? --Legolas (talk2me) 03:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ohh oops :) --Legolas (talk2me) 03:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Nomination on Carmine Guida
I was actually following protocol at Wikipedia:Guide to deletion: "Place a notification on significant pages that link to your nomination, to enable those with related knowledge to participate in the debate.". Did I use the wrong template? Luminifer (talk) 16:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah thanks. Luminifer (talk) 16:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Something I really...
don't want to delve into, but since I see you've been dealing with part of this, would you please look over the edits to Hilary Duff from today and see what you think. Some of it just removed valid sourcing that supported statements regarding box office, awards, etc. and it is just too extensive for my taste in how it was done. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not really excited about doing too much on it, I mostly keep that article watchlisted due to it being a target for one young IP editor that was blocked for a month, then reblocked for 3 months, after a lot of disruption and threats that his neighbor, the cop, would shut down Wikipedia). (Then today, posted one request to change a photo on Mandy Moore and the 3 month block - made on Sept. 20, was lifted by the person who placed because of that request. No request for the block to be lifted was made, no "I'll be good, I promise." Nothing, and it will just lead to repeated problems.) Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Proxies
I honestly believe that the proxies Bambifan tries to recruit are aware of the level of damage he's caused, at least when starting out. FWIW, I just looked at Ryulong's request at Meta to have him blocked globally. The damage he did as "Ice Age lover" across multiple wikis is staggering. The fellow on the Russian wiki he duped was deserving of a block based on his comments and attitude (English Wikipedia is "stupid, for example). I don't think this latest one is as culpable, although he was certainly wrong in assisting him while knowing about the blocks/bans. That said, I would like to see an immediate block on any future proxy, admin, bureaucrat or whatever. Both proxies knew what they were doing. I don't know what it will take to get BellSouth in Mobile involved, but if a formal complaint is made and witnesses are needed, I'm your guy. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- I only say that because I don't think this fellow was aware of how bad the problem really was and I hope he's aware now. Just trying to AGF based on his previous record. I'm not sure what if anything should be done in this instance, but IMO there should be no mercy whatsoever to future proxies regardless of edit history. This is just nuts at this point. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Re:3RR
Thanks Kevin. I really don't know what the big deal was by reverting unsourced additions or non-notable inputs. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
New Review
Hey kww, although Memoirs had a Billboard review that was positive it didnt have much specific scoring info. Ive found this new review Look Here on Billboard that has a written score of 71. Can you tell me what you make of this, and what you believe should be done with it. Thanks--Petergriffin9901 (talk) 01:55, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Mix-up
Quick note about your recent RfAr post. They were different years. Block in 2008, adminship 2009. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 00:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
[3]. Came to make the same comment as SlimVirgin - you're right about the block to creation of the Law account, but GlassCobra refers to the distance between the block and when Law gained adminship. Nathan T 03:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Ah, must have missed your follow up! Sorry, Nathan T 03:46, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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Number 1's (Mariah Carey album) GAR notice
Number 1's (Mariah Carey album) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:29, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Edits in the Hilary Duff article
Hi...I would like to bring a consensus on recent mass deletions being made to Hilary Duff article....Would love to have your views on this.... pls comment on this Gprince007 (talk) 12:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Israeli Singles Chart
Please revert your edits. There is an official Israeli Singles Chart, not only the one at charts.co.il. Edenc1 • Talk 13:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
about Latin Areschart
Ok. I didn't kew that that chart was on the "Badcharts" list. I think i doesn't have dubious methodology but if it is the general though, i won't include it again. Thanks =).