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Volume 20, Issue 11 — 2024-08-14
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Barnstar
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The Real Life Barnstar | |
For going the extra mile, contacting authorities and possibly saving a life. We need more folks like you here. Toddst1 (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC) |
- Wow, thank you. One of the more humbling barnstars I've received, I think. Here's what happened:
- At 7.20pm (Pacific time -- my timezone) an IP edited the article Suicide, making a claim that an Evan Kucera would die in two hours. I actually have that page watchlisted for such threats, although I wasn't online at the time.
- At around 10.30pm I came online, went on IRC and checked my watchlist, where I saw the edit. It was being discussed in the admin channel at the same time, and after a SamSpade WHOIS query of the IP was conducted, it was decided that someone should contact the IP's ISP and the local police department. I did the latter.
- I spoke to a detective and explained that I am an admin on the Wikipedia website and that it had been brought to my attention that someone had posted a comment to one of the webpages there, that a threat had been made that someone called Evan Kucera was going to die within two hours. Unfortunately she didn't know what Wikipedia was, asked if I was a minister, and what is an IP.
- I explained that WP is an online encyclopedia, on the internet, and that someone had changed one of the pages of the website to say that this someone will die. I gave her the name of that someone, the IP address who made the threat, but still she didn't understand so put me on hold and passed me on to another detective.
- Fortunately, the second cop knew what WP was and how it worked so I didn't have to explain all that again. Again, I gave him Evan's name, the IP address, the ISP, the ISP's phone number, and the URL of the diff where the threat was made and the time it was made. I gave him my name and phone number, and explained that the threat was made three hours ago and it said he would "die in two hours". I also told him that it couldn't be determined whether the threat was made by Evan himself, or by someone else, and that it was entirely possible that it could be a hoax, but that my phone call wasn't.
- The cop explained to me that they didn't have a 24 hour IT department, but that he would attempt to contact the IP's ISP to get the IP's information.
- At the same time, the discussion was still ongoing in the admin channel at IRC, and a geolocate had determined that the IP may be in Lincoln, Nebraska. A google search of "Evan Kucera"+"Lincoln Nebraska" returned positive hits, and another admin, Huntster, contacted the PD there.
- I don't know if Evan or an enemy made the threat, or whether it was real or just him or a friend playing a joke. I just followed WP:SUICIDE and gave what I thought would be the best information in the circumstances. I don't believe there is anything more we can do in this case, except maybe a followup phone call.
- Thanks again for the barnstar. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 19:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Look what I pulled up. Based on that geolocation, it seems Evan Kucera is a high school basketball player in lincon nebraska according to the Lincon Journal Star [1]--Ipatrol (talk) 19:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I know. I haven't heard back from the cops. I don't know if they investigated it or not. I wasn't the only person to call them though, so hopefully they realised it wasn't a hoax call. Save from calling them again, or the school, there's not much we can do, but it's probably too late now anyway :/ Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
delete yelena yegoryan
I recently had a deletion to yelena yegoryan, (csd g11) for blatent promotion. When in fact the bio on this artist has been documented, and can be seen on various websites including pasadena symphony, sonymusic-Danny Elfman recordings, etc. Can you please give me some insight on this in laymen's terms? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Promanagment (talk • contribs) 03:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Can I trouble you to push a button?
Dear Matthewedwards: I saw you're online at WP:HAU, and you did the most recent admin-type-thing in the Log as of 8:30 UTC, so I figured I'd ask you for your help. Can you CSD G6 Change.gov for me? I'm trying to do a move to fix something I messed up, doing my first WP:AFC approval, and I need the article speedied to do it. (I should have moved it rather than copied it, so the history is borked, and the source page is in limbo.) I've had it tagged for a while and I'm about to go to bed, and I was hoping to fix my mess before doing so. I figure the general speedy backlog's big enough no one's even had a chance to look at it. ⇔ ∫ÆS dt @ 08:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Done. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Beautiful. Many thanks. I did the move and all is well with the world. ⇔ ∫ÆS dt @ 08:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Hagger vandalism
Hi. I notice you blocked this guy - User:Luke Organa. Is there some sort of 'Hagger'-vandalism meme that I don't know about? - Richard Cavell (talk) 10:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean by "'Hagger'-vandalism meme", but last night four accounts (Dbuckner, Jan Dodonna, Tott Doneeta and Luke Organa), which were all created on 19 October, went on a Hagger spree between 00:18 and 00:27 and started moving pages to H,A,G.G.ë.R ?, H,A.G.G.ë.R ?, H Ë R M Ë Ë ?, etc. User:Chris G blocked the first three, I blocked Luke. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Richardcavell, see here. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Note that we immediately indef-block on sight, rather than give warnings, and WP:DENY them any kind of recognition by not placing block templates on their talk pages, not allowing them to edit their own talk page (which I forgot to do last night
, but his talk page was blocked and salted instead), or send emails. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 17:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. I saw you indef-block on sight, and I figured that there was a history there that I was not aware of. Thanks for bringing me up to speed. I'll do the same from now on. - Richard Cavell (talk) 22:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Note that we immediately indef-block on sight, rather than give warnings, and WP:DENY them any kind of recognition by not placing block templates on their talk pages, not allowing them to edit their own talk page (which I forgot to do last night
- Richardcavell, see here. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
OTRS tag
Uh.. you tagged the image Image:Mahmoud Shoolizadeh.jpg as archived in our OTRS system, but you did not reply or close the related ticket. Could you see to that please? Thanks. (respond on my talk page please) —— nixeagle 18:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't have access to the OTRS ticket. I asked User:Orderinchaos to check the email for me, because of User talk:Matthewedwards#Deleted images. After looking at the ticket, the images, the pages they appeared on and the user's reply at my talk page, he said I could restore them. I didn't realise there was another step in the process, sorry. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Can't disagree with this deletion, as I don't see why we need to have this image, but there seems to be an inconsistency in {{Externalimage}}, especially in the light of its deletion review in that if we can't host copyrighted images, there seems to be no objection to linking to them. The specific example in WP:ELNEVER that stands out is Youtube, a known host of copvios. Your thoughts welcome, in that we are not linking to a copyright violation; we are linking to the original source, aren't we? --Rodhullandemu 00:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- I have no opinion on {{Externalimage}}; I assume in certain situations it may be of use. WRT to the image it was linking to, [2], it looks like it appeared either in The Sun or its website (or both) and has a "© PA" (Press Association?) watermark. The image is at the Daily Mail's website though. Now, it may not be copyright infringement considering how many other pictures I've just seen with "© PA", but it would be better to get it from The Sun if it has to be there at all. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Tricky; the PA doesn't make its material available otherwise than to subscribers such as The Sun, so it's moot as to whether we can actually link to an original source; the whole point of {{Externalimage}} as I read it is that we can link externally unless and until a free image is available- this seems to be a temporary fix; in this case, a free image of Georgina Baillie should not be that hard to obtain per WP:NFCC. But still, there's no particular reason why the article should carry an image of her, and I can't disagree with your removal of the link. On balance, I think it's better left out. --Rodhullandemu 01:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Help me (not really, just an IRC bot test)
{{helpme|Not really though Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)}}
A moment of your time?
Hi, this is a bit out of nowhere but since you did help to delete a blatant copyvio that I tagged I figured you could assist me in another matter. I have tagged several images that were uploaded by User talk:Jenevip for either not having sources or for their lack of fair use claims. Anyhow, I have tagged one particular image (Image:Teambatista.jpg) several times now. The image is always deleted, but the user continues to upload the same image again (with the same improper license and with no source). This has happened several times now with not only that image but with one other that I have tagged before of theirs. I'm not sure about how I should go about talking to the user about this so I was hoping that you could caution the them about continuously uploading the deleted images. I would really appreciate the assistance. :] --Pinkpineapple (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Deletion of Image:The Escape Engine-press photo.jpg
Can you please explain why you deleted Image:The Escape Engine-press photo.jpg? It is my understanding that the record label emailed permissions@wikimedia.org on Saturday, October 25, 2008 stating the content of the Fidelity Records has been released under cc-by-sa-2.0 and received a reply from Wilhelm Schnotz on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 (see: Ticket#2008102510020933). The guys at the label have been very understanding and helpful but I can't keep going back to them asking questions or to do more things every time this photo is deleted. So, please help me out and let me know if there something that I am missing? Thanks. --NJ hardcore kid (talk) 03:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I will look into this. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Done The image has been restored and placed back into The Escape Engine. Sorry for the mess around. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 08:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
So what is going to happen now? Nergaal (talk) 03:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Nothing, Bignole has supported, all seems well with the world. Wait til Tuesday when either Scorpion or I will close it. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:44, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
The RFA project was a success, because of you! MBisanz talk 03:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I'm burned out by article writing so if there's ever anything else let me know. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Protection
Can you fully protect California Proposition 8 (2008) until the other ones are unprotected? I'm tired of people jumping the gun and saying the initiative has passed. Thank you, CTJF83Talk 03:56, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- The mis-information isn't enough for full protection at the moment. It's being reverted. If you disagree, make a request at WP:RFPP, sorry. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)