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Congratulations and keep up the good work! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hemlock Martinis |Hemlock Martinis ]] ([[User talk:Hemlock Martinis |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hemlock Martinis |contribs]]) 15:27, April 2, 2008</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
Congratulations and keep up the good work! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Hemlock Martinis |Hemlock Martinis ]] ([[User talk:Hemlock Martinis |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hemlock Martinis |contribs]]) 15:27, April 2, 2008</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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== Propaganda manipulation in Armia Krajowa == |
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The text below is manipulation, it hides facts. After the quote I will write what is hidden by the author. |
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{{cquote|However, while resisting Soviet pressure, the '''AK High Command and its local representatives went to extremes: They cooperated with the Nazis.''' The first contacts began to be established in the summer and fall of 1943, after the breakdown of relations with the USSR. In December 1943 and February 1944, Captain Adolf Pilch (pseudonym "Gora"), commander of one of the AK detachments, met with SD [Security Service] and Wehrmacht officers in Stolbtsy, requesting urgent assistance. He received 18,000 units of ammunition, food, and uniforms. '''During the eight months of its existence''' (September 1943-August 1944), the "Gora" Detachment '''did not engage in a single battle''' with the Germans, '''whereas it waged 32 battles against Belorussian partisans'''. Andziej Kucner ("Maly") ["Small"]) followed his example until he was transferred to Ashmyany Rayon by order of the AK District Headquarters. The Nazis' attitude toward cooperation with "Akovtsy" [AK members] can be judged from German trophy documents. In February 1944, SS Obersturmbanfuhrer Strauch reported: "Cooperation with White Polish bandits is continuing. The 300-strong detachment in Rakov and Ivenets proved to be very useful. Negotiations with Ragner's (Stefan Zajaczkiewicz) 1,000-strong band have been concluded. Ragner's band is suppressing the territory between the Neman and the Volkovysk-Molodechno Railroad and between Mosty and Iv'ye. '''Contacts with other Polish bands have been established'''". |
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First Lieutenant Jozef Swida (Vileyka Oblast), commander of the '''Nadneman AK Formation in the Lida District, also cooperated with the occupiers'''. In the summer of 1944, in Shchuchin Rayon, Polish legionnaires gained control of the small towns of Zheludok and Vasilishki, where they replaced German garrisons. For the purpose of fighting partisans, they were given four trucks and 300,000 cartridges[55]. Some sub-units of Armia Krajowa displayed great cruelty toward the civilian population suspected of sympathizing with the partisans. The legionnaires burned down their homes, drove away their livestock, and robbed and killed the families of partisans.[http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/belarus/bel129.html]}} |
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The text is propaganda manipulation. Adolf Pilch's actions were condemned by Armia Krajowa command as mutiny. Jozef Swida rebeled against Armia Krajowa in January 1944 and refused to accept its orders or assist in its actions. Armia Krajowa leadership demanded that he will ally with Soviet partisants, which he refused as well. He killed four AK members and was subject to trial by AK which gave him a death sentence. The quote here makes no mention of this. You will find more on Polish Wikipedia, the above persons have both their articles: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_%C5%9Awida#Proces_i_wyrok |
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Alledged report by SS uses communist propaganda language which makes it curious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_partisans_in_Poland Communist propaganda routinely referred to the anti-Soviet Polish underground army as "bands of White Poles." According to another propaganda directive, the Polish underground was to be referred to as "the protégés of the Gestapo."[2] On 23 June 1943, the Soviet partisan leadership authorized the denouncing of the Polish underground to the Nazis. Later, orders went out to “shoot the [Polish] leaders” and “discredit, disarm, and dissolve” their units.[2] |
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--[[User:ObywatelKwak|ObywatelKwak]] ([[User talk:ObywatelKwak|talk]]) 15:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Józef Baka == |
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Hej, czy nie chciałbyś może zrobić stuba z [[pl:Józef Baka]]? Jest właśnie w rozbudowie, i za parę miesięcy będzie z tego medal. Przy tym szkoda, żeby nie było w en-wiki artykułu o Takiej Postaci :), a jakbym sam to próbował pisać, pewnie wyszłoby zupełnie po murzyńsku. Pozdr., [[Special:Contributions/83.6.13.111|83.6.13.111]] ([[User talk:83.6.13.111|talk]]) 15:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC) ([[pl:user:Laforgue|Laforgue]]). |
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== Official propose. == |
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Hello Piotrus, are you want become bureacruat on EN-Wiki? [[user: Alden Jones|Alden]] or [[User talk:Alden Jones| talk with Alden]] 20:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== MEBUY.PL == |
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Hello Piotrus, Could you please help me i really don't understand what that is not accepted with mebuy.pl. the text that you don't accept could youplease remove it and keep this information page. thank you for your support [[User:Tintin72|Tintin72]] ([[User talk:Tintin72|talk]]) 06:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi Again, i have look thru your suggestion... i have deleted some info does it still not pass the check. |
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it's not a advertisement of any kind... we are going to build on that... but if you delete it every time i put something there.. its pretty difficult to make it good. please could you help me to get it approved.... |
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[[User:Tintin72|Tintin72]] ([[User talk:Tintin72|talk]]) 14:06, 4 April 2008 (UTC) |
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POSTSee my post at Talk:Stanisław Krysicki Huns over the walls!FYI Can't believe this! I'm too busy right now for WP, so can you monitor/influence this... hopefully he/she was to lazy to fix the created redlinks... leaving things more or less intact, but I find it hard to think of a 1632 article which didn't/doesn't/shouldn't reference and link to this page! Sheesh! // FrankB 14:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Promoted Polish culture during World War IICongratulations and keep up the good work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hemlock Martinis (talk • contribs) 15:27, April 2, 2008 Very weak keep for that one. The website has relatively high Alexa rank 66th in Poland (but see also WP:ALEXA and Alexa concerns) and notable ownership—Agora and gazeta.pl. Some informations about rank in Polish blog hosting services and website notable awards (if any) should be added into the article to fill WP notability guidelines. I've tagged it as unreferenced, OR and no assertion of notability. Visor (talk) 21:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC) GA reviewI've read somewhere that the maximum duration for the hold period in the GA review is seven days. Is it a strict limit or do reviewers have some discretion to extend that period in difficult cases? You have indicated that you'll correct the Łódź insurrection article as time permits; roughly what timeframe have you got in mind? --Doopdoop (talk) 22:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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Witaj. Wprowadziłem datę śmierci pani prof.[[1]], po czym poprawka zniknęła z enwiki, a w historii edycji brak danych, kto usunął i czemu. Potwierdzenie faktu jest np. w nekrologu Gazety Wyborczej [2], zresztą o tym wiele źródeł pisało, więc nie wiem czemu ktoś usunął i czemu nie wiadomo kto. Czy mógłbyś to wyjasnić. Jeśli możesz to odpowiedz na mój adres plwiki [[3]]. --156.17.102.70 (talk) 11:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC) Odnośnie tego. Przetłumaczyłem ile tylko potrafiłem. Przydałaby się mała pomoc - dwa zdania zostawiłem po polsku. PS. Stworzyłem ostatnio też ze 10 artykułów dotyczących kuchni śląskiej - (Category:Silesian cuisine) Jeśli znajdziesz kiedyś trochę czasu to może warto przejrzeć bo mogą być błędy. Pozdrawiam. LUCPOL (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC) AWARD
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A break?Hey, it sounds to me like you need a break... I sincerely suggest you take a short break (did you notice it's spring outside?) There is more to life than wiki. Renata (talk) 03:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
DYKI've found very interesting article about it at the http://web.mst.edu/~microbio/BIO221_1998/Proteus_0x19.html. An excellent candidate for DYK. Visor (talk) 08:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC) ProposalAs a prominent Slavic editor, I'd like to here your opinion here. Thank you. The Dominator (talk) 00:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC) A-class review of Armia KrajowaIn March you've commented on the Armia Krajowa article, which have eventually passed the A-class review. Since then I have been steadily expanding the article (my goal is to FA it one day), but in recent days a content dispute is threatening to destabilize this article; your comments would be much appreciated here.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
MOSDABHi, Piotrus! Do you have any further plans regarding what to do with this thread? I don't see it going anywhere, and would hate to see it closed in this hung state. Maybe it would make sense to undo the whole revision and have its supporters to formally submit it for community's consideration instead of allowing them to quitely pass it behind everybody's backs. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
DYKThanks for info, but I can't make myself to create inline refs, if all article is based on one source. You can put them in places you like ;-) Pibwl ←« 20:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Polish JewsSorry, I wasn't aware of that. I will post a rationale, but essentially it's this: every other equivalent article is called "History of the Jews in..." (see the template at the bottom). Biruitorul (talk) 21:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Mix up
I really appreciate his contributions into a demoscene, but nn and no V&RS. Prod? Visor (talk) 12:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Hi Piotrus, Could you be so kind to merge the page Adam Kieslowski into Eva & Adam? I don't really know how that works, sorry. Thanks in advance Adam-Kieslowski (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Hi again, Thanks for your reply. I've tried my best to merge it in. I'm not feeling discouraged at all because of your comments, you put them down very correctly, I don't have any problems about that. I do have a problem about how some people around here act towards others trying to do a good thing. Apparently this is accepted, which does discourage me. Wikipedia should be all about sharing and contributing, not flaming others about a few mistakes. Nice way to discourage newbies around here. It's time people act against people at that discussion page. Adam-Kieslowski (talk) 16:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Do you think the article meets WP:N. I am confused. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Re: A-class review of Armia KrajowaI was refering to the version of the article at the time I posted my comment. One sentance acknowledging that there are different views on AK in the intro seems to represent the article's content so is in line with WP:LEAD. Please note that I have very little knowledge of this particular topic, and can't comment on the article's accuracy. --Nick Dowling (talk) 11:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Congress PolandHi, I was looking for someone to proof-read my re-write of Congress Poland, and you seem an ideal candidate! As I said on the talk page, it was mostly to clean up language and referencing, I did my best to base it on what was on the page but my grasp of Polish history is nil. Would you mind checking my work? WLU (talk) 14:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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