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Hi. Concerning adding knockout mouse phenotype data to [[Gene Wiki]] articles, I think this is valuable information which enriches the articles. I have however one small quibble, and that is the plug that is made to the KO Mouse Consortium and the Sanger Institute in the text of the article. I think it would be more appropriate to include this attribution in a citation rather than the text of the article. |
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Please would you stop VK adding fact tags to [[James Arbuthnot]]. - [[User:Kittybrewster|Kittybrewster ]] [[User_talk:Kittybrewster|<font color="0000FF">☎</font>]] 20:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:Why do you think it shouldnt be sourced or referenced? Maybe you should source it properly and I wouldnt have to - are you trying to turn this into a war? I have been nothing but polite! IN fact should you be editing the article as he is your brother and you have been blocked for editing these articles before because of [[WP:COI]]. regards--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 20:38, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::Irrespective of the merits or otherwise of adding {{tl|fact}} tags, its obvious that any involvement from me will result in only more drama. Vk's editing has been fine since I stepped away, I would rather keep it that way. |
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:: Here is my opinion: If the information can be sourced, Kb, it would be much better to do so than dispute the motivation of the tag. Vk, my advice to you is to add appropriate tags, by all means, but let someone else decide whether or not a lack of sourcing should result in the content being deleted. If that advice isn't acceptable to either to you, then I suggest you ask for assistance at ANI, or the Troubles ArbCom enforcement page. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 20:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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I think the following recommendation from [[WP:MEDMOS]] is relevant: ''Do not hype a study by listing the names, credentials, institutions, or other "qualifications" of their authors. The text of the article should not needlessly duplicate the names, dates, titles, and other information about the source that you list in the citation.'' |
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::: Though [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Arbuthnot&diff=175124214&oldid=175122100 this], while amusing, really isn't on. We can't call someone's voice "monotonous" as if it is a fact, when it is simply an opinion of someone else. How about reverting that yourself, Vk, and saving us the drama of further conflict? [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 20:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::: Before Kb came running over here to whinge to you (wonder why he chose you!?! hhhmmm!) I had left a message saying ''"source doesnt say he was captain - please add another source. This articles referencing is very poor. Can you please fix them all or else more fact tags will have to be added, regards"'' I was about to step away from the article and let him take care of it but he seems to want to turn this into something bigger. |
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Again, I think adding the KO phenotype data is great, but where the data came from should not be over hyped. Cheers. [[User:Boghog|Boghog]] ([[User talk:Boghog|talk]]) 21:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:::: I am also interested to hear views on Kb's COI here - he has been warned and blocked for this before and as this is his brothers article shirley he's is breaching this again.--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 20:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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: Hi Boghog. Thanks for you comments. I did think about this quite a bit and we actually had some extensive discussions, including Wikipedians, about the best way of phrasing things. Let me explain the reasoning. We felt it was important to mention the IKMC inline for each article because it is necessary to explain the standardized nature of the programme. Obviously there are thousands of KO mice kicking around labs and lots of different phenotypic descriptions from different labs. I'm not sure it is valuable or particularly appropriate do describe them all in the Gene Wiki, as there is bound to be conflicting information that will be explained by different penetrance of allele, different backgrounds or different phenotyping assays. But the extremely large cohort that is being produced by this programme is unique in scale - in theory we should have a large proportion of the mouse genome covered in a few years. More importantly they all have standardized construction (in terms of the allele type, targeting and the genetic backgrounds of the animals etc), are all freely available, and most important of all, they all undergo exactly the same phenotyping protocols measured to exactly the same parameters. It is this scale and standardization that make the data useful and appropriate for something like the Gene Wiki. So our reasoning of adding the link to the IKMC was not one of hyping the peole behind the data, but simply so the reader can easily understand the context of why this particular phenotyping report of this particular allele is indeed notable and worth reporting. Rather than describe the nature of the programme in each gene article, we thought pointing to IKMC inline would do the trick. |
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:::::Why is it that whenever this family come to notice it means trouble? As I point out in <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Arbuthnot&diff=175126816&oldid=175124214 this edit summary]</span>, [[User:BrownHairedGirl|BHG]] is on holiday, [[User:Alison|Alison]] has her hands full trying to stop this kind of stupidity spilling onto Veropedia, and [[User:Giano II|Giano]] is (ahem) [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Durova|otherwise occupied]] - and I suspect has had enough of getting involved in other people's arguments, while myself and (I suspect) [[User:JzG|Guy]] have had more than enough of cleaning up Arbuthnot family messes. If either of you end up getting blocked for this, you're probably on your own this time. (BTW VK, [[WP:COI]] doesn't ban him from writing on his family - it just discourages it and means he has to make sure he's neutral.)<font face="Trebuchet MS"> — [[User:Iridescent|<font color="#E45E05">''iride''</font>]][[User_talk:Iridescent|<font color="#C1118C">''scent''</font>]]</font> 21:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::: I do not wish for you to be distrubed by mine of anyone elses actions. However, I cant see what the hell I am supposed to have down here! Does Kb think that articles about his family dont have to be references? The guy is just whinging because he cant be arsed to reference it - if he doesnt want to reference it then he shouldnt write it in the first place imo.--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 21:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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: With regards to mentioning the producing institute, I tend to agree with you: I'm less convinced that is appropriate. The argument made to me was that because there are a number of centres involved in production and phenotyping (eventually we will include alleles from all of the producing centres, we've just started with Sanger's because I have easier access to the data), there will inevitably be some differences between them - particularly in phenotyping. It will therefore be important for the reader to know which centre any given allele is from. But of course that argument was made by a room of mouse geneticists interested in such minutiae, I doubt the average article reader will care. During these discussions I didn't think that was a particularly big deal so I didn't push the issue (plus I was more interesting in fighting off those people who insisted we should include the details of the allele, LoxP sites, selection cassettes and all!) |
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::::::: Vk, you have made it perfectly clear that you consider it inappropriate for me to take action in issues related to that ArbCom case, so you can't have it both ways. If you have concerns, take them to someone that you are willing to work with. There are COI issues with editing articles about one's brother and one should be very careful in editing that page, but as Iridescent says, that does not prohibit one from editing the article. Non-controversial facts such which degree someone got is exactly the sort of thing one would expect a brother to know. Why you consider that to be dubious enough to query it, I do not know. However, if you wish to query something that is your prerogative, i'm just asking if is it really worth opening old wounds over something so trivial? |
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::::::: The only concern I have over your edits is your recent added statement at the end, Vk. It is a POV violation as it stands and I will remove it if you don't address that by rewording. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 21:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::Life's just grand isn't it. LOL [[User:Giano II|Giano]] 21:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Ain't that right. For the record, Giano, while I disagree with your methods, I think justice has been done. You have an uncanny ability, IMHO, to do exactly the right thing in exactly the wrong way. Its a remarkable skill you have. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 21:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::Funnily enough Rocky you are not the first person to say that to me but when I logged on just now thinking "Oh God what is the yellow flash to say this time!" and saw this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Arbuthnot&diff=175124214&oldid=175122100] it was just a plesure to see it and laugh out loud, and it is referenced. I'lleave you to deal with it. [[User:Giano II|Giano]] 21:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::: It made me laugh too. I'm kind of hoping Vk will refactor it himself. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 21:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::: I said I wouldnt edit the page for a week but will sort the sentance. I dont like editing here as much as you dont want me here but I only came because it was so patethic of Kb to come over bitching because he doesnt think he should have to reference his articles - if they arnt referenced its just OR.--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 21:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::: Thank you for doing that. However, lack of references ≠ OR. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 22:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Arbuthnot&curid=249556&diff=175137961&oldid=175137352 Now that is a piss take]. I am not going to step in as I said I would stay off for a week, which I will honour - but there is a chapter from the [[Book of Ezekiel]] thing springs to mind which would be apt for my return. Kindly control you dogs!--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 22:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:So I agree that it would be perfectly fine to include this info in a citation. The problem now is making all the changes to the >250 articles already created in userspace! I'll start working back through them, but it will take me some time. For the ones already live I need to go back and add another, better citation (once it is published) so I will remove the centre from those at the same time. In the meantime, I'll get the coders to change script that produces the wiki-text automatically on the conclusion of phenotyping, so that the future gene articles omit that information. Does that sound ok? [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 23:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Ahem. VK and KB, in my view the both of you should know better. This belongs on the article's talk anyway... instead of coming to some admin first and asking for help, why not try amicably working it out there? I've started a thread for you: [[Talk:James_Arbuthnot#Edit_warring_over_how_someone.27s_voice_sounds.3F]] and really. I mean really. The whole thing seems rather petty to me but I may be confused. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 23:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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: Exactly. Kb, there is a clear conflict of interest if you intend to patrol your brothers article and delete anything that you consider to be unsuitable. Vk, your history of animosity towards Kb and his family makes the selective addition of such personal criticism, without any attempt at establishing context, questionable. |
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: As '''both''' of you should have learned by now, this is the sort of low level warfare leads to incivility that leads to attacks that leads to blocks. The process has started already (''Kindly control your dogs'' is not acceptable language, Vk. Moreover, considering you were the one that screamed foul when I attempted to "control" your inappropriate edits, you are the last person that should be asking me to deal with anyone else.) I strongly suggest you discuss it on the talk page like responsible adults and come to some sort of agreement on an appropriate wording for such content, or else I will protect the article and refer both of you to another admin for sanctions, per the ArbCom. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 23:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::I didnt want to come here - there are clear COI, OWN and OR issues at hand here that seem to be being overlooked. I would love ot know what I have actually done wrong here! Is Kb's problem that he doesnt want to reference his material or he doesnt want other peoples referenced material - someone needs to take that man in hand and explain for once and for all that we ALL have to abide by wiki policies NOT just me. I've done jack all wrong, if Kb doesnt want to discuss it on the talk page and prefers to run here cos he knows he can stir and drum up support then there is little I can do about that. --[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 23:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Let's not get into the who did what to whom bit, that way lies danger... I reviewed the edit history and I saw that both you guys were doing things that, while technically might be "per policy" (adding fact tags, overdoing the cites and quotes so that there was a lot of material, both seemingly to make a point, etc...), just seemed like low level warfare (within the bounds of policy, yes, but not being "nice") rather than collegial editing. VK especially, what I had heard lately was that you were doing a lot of high quality work, so much so that you got a barnstar over it IIRC. I think stepping away from this article for a week is an excellent idea. Maybe KB ought to do the same and leave it to some third party to try to unhash what that section should say. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 00:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::I regarded Vk's presence on that page as provocative. Nevertheless I supplied the references he requested - which were easily found. He then added text which is clearly POV (per Rockpocket) unencyclopedic (by any standard) and misattributed to Soames. He challenges me to reference "my" article (which it isn't) and continues to plead innocence (which rings a bell). The correct solution is that Vk avoids the article and somebody keeps an eye on it. If Lar or Rockpocket or Iridiscenti think more inline refs would be helpful, then that would be fine. Meanwhile maybe a one month protection would be a good idea. And I will avoid boxers' articles. - [[User:Kittybrewster|Kittybrewster ]] [[User_talk:Kittybrewster|<font color="0000FF">☎</font>]] 00:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Kb asked for help and I told him I'm not in a position to offer anything except advice for both. Vk has made it clear he not believe I should be involved in these disputes in an administrative capacity, so what does he expect me to do about the potential for COI? There is [[WP:COIN]] where Vk can report his concern to an "uninvolved" administrator. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 00:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::I actually picked on you because I thought you were online and because you are aware of the history. I don't think Vk has the right to keep you out of it and I am grateful to you and Iridiscenti for blocking the article for 24 hours. Thank you. I think it should be a month. I have asked Walton One to take over and prove the additional latest comments are neither a correct quotation, NPOV nor encyclopedic. Presumably on JA's talk page. How he does that is beyond me. i also think vk should be banned from that article. Is there a real need to reference it further? - [[User:Kittybrewster|Kittybrewster ]] [[User_talk:Kittybrewster|<font color="0000FF">☎</font>]] 10:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::: I'm always happy to help where I can, Kb, and always feel free to ask for help if you require it. If it is likely that my involvement will inflame, I may not take action direct myself, but I am always happy to offer advice or refer the issue to someone else. Vk is not keeping me out of it; I just made the decision that its in the best interests of everyone if I took a different position and, coincidentally, an opportunity came up that allowed me to do that effectively. Don't worry, I'm still very much monitoring things. I don't think there is a need to protect the article for longer at the present time, but if the edit-warring continues, that could be the outcome. There is a workable compromise to be made here, and those who are interested have enough experienced between them to work it out, assuming they don't let their personal differences get in the way. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 21:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::With regard to Kitybrewster's continued editing of his politician brother's page it may be a good idea to keep an eye on this section here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=175142091#SUGGESTIONS:_.28In_light_of_Durova_case.29_Congressional_Edit_Case_.26_Wikipedia_Needs_COI_Warnings] to see if any advice or precedents emerge on the subject. [[User:Giano II|Giano]] 10:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::: That is a good idea, but its also a reminder to how editing an article can feel like an academic exercise to you and I, but can have real and detrimental effects on the lives of the subjects. Its worth remembering that when considering whether to quote some trivial and personal criticism in BLP articles. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 21:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::No. I am not "under probation". - [[User:Kittybrewster|Kittybrewster ]] [[User_talk:Kittybrewster|<font color="0000FF">☎</font>]] 15:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:: Great! Thanks for your detailed explanation and for your offer to move the attribution to the citation. I occasionally run a bot, so I may be able to help out with making changes to the articles where the KO data has already been added. The [[International Knockout Mouse Consortium]] has already KOed a large fraction of mouse genes. Did you intend to add most of these to the Gene Wiki articles? If so, it might be more appropriate to include this data in collapsible section of the {{tl|PBB}} template similar to the GNF RNA expression pattern data (see for example {{tl|PBB|geneid=2100}}; while we are at it I think the RNA data should also be collapsed). If you don't mind, I think we should bring up this topic on the [[Portal_talk:Gene_Wiki|Gene Wiki Discussion]] page to get input from a wider group of Wikipedians. I think there will be strong support for adding this data, but there may be differing opinions as to the best way to present it. In addition, one of our bots might assist you in adding this data to the rest of the Gene Wiki articles. [[User:Boghog|Boghog]] ([[User talk:Boghog|talk]]) 12:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC) |
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::: Yes, most of the genes have been KO'd in ES cells, but only a few hundred of them have been made into mice and phenotyped so far. Sanger has about 400, and I believe MRC Harwell and UC Davis have a few hundred each currently in progress. I'd like to include all of them in Gene Wiki articles if possible over the next few years. I'm currently updating articles on the first 250 alleles that have been completed, as we are co-ordinating these into a paper (and we are keen, in the spirit of open access, to simultaneously provide summaries on WP). Actually I originally envisioned incorporating these into that template, but there are some additional issues with that (for example, a proportion of the mouse genes are not 1:1 orthologues with a human gene, e.g. [[Slc22a21]]). In the end, we decided to push the first 250 out seperately and then get some community input. So I'm happy to have further discussions and if the community feel this data is appropriate for the human PBB box then that is fine with me. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 13:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC) |
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I think I have to change my user name. Almost whatever I write, I seem to attract the terminally cranky. Perhaps it is my writing style that is irrtating. Do you have any helpful ideas? Oh, and thank you for your support for the "peanut gallery" at [[Wikipedia:Reference Desk/Miscellaneous#What can hospitals force you to stay for?]]. I did notice. :-) [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] 02:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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: I don't honestly think its anything to do you with personally, Bielle. In this case, if the person had read you comment a bit more carefully before lecturing you, I think they would have noticed your wording was crafted in way to not presuppose anything. Subtlety of language is rarely appreciated at the reference desk, especially among those who finds things "''very'' irritating" and feels compelled to let us all know that. Sometimes you go through periods, on Wikipedia, when everything you do appears to be an issue for someone. Don't let it change you, it will pass. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 03:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::I do try to write the answers carefully, just so that these kinds of misunderstandings won't happen. However, careful writing does presuppose careful reading. I shouldn't complain, though, especially to you. I did notice that one of your volcanos appears to be bubbling again. Thanks for the kind words. [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] 03:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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And no worries. That case brought out anger and passion in many of us. While I still have a serious issue with how some powerful people comported themselves in this case, my anger had gotten the best of me, and it took a new friend e-mailing me about it, and GRBerry (who I asked to look at my notes at Bauder's page) gently admonishing me, to get me to see it. Thanks for the note at my talkpage. Regards, [[User:MrWhich|Mr Which]][[User_talk:MrWhich|<sup>???</sup>]] 14:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi, as you're an experienced trainer, I'd be very interested in your feedback on [http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/For_trainers] . Feel free to discuss and improve on the WMUK wiki or in email. Cheers, [[User:MartinPoulter|MartinPoulter]] ([[User talk:MartinPoulter|talk]]) 12:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Thank you so much for the barnstar you left on my page - even though it gotted eaten by a bear, it's the thought that counts ;)... and on my birthday, too! (well, actually about 7 minutes after it ended, but hey, who's counting? :D). I'm actually a little confused as to what it's for, as the link you left points to the humanities reference desk, but the anchor doesn't seem to work. I'm guessing maybe the Vicky poem, but I'm not sure. Anyways, thank you! --[[User:Monorail Cat|Monorail Cat]] 08:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::Oh, wait. I'm being slow. Somehow I expected the link to jump to a specific part of the page (an anchor), but instead it shows a revision I made to it, and it was indeed the Vicky poem. Thanks for your vote of confidence - I'm now ready to leave my high power millionaire job, and make it as a full time poet ;P --[[User:Monorail Cat|Monorail Cat]] 08:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::You freaked my wife out, btw. She calls me her bear, and, at the risk of sounding like an AOL user (or MySpace user, or whatever they call 'em these days) she was 'all like' "ZOMG! They're stalking you! they know you're a bear! why'd you eated your barnstar?!" :D --[[User:Monorail Cat|Monorail Cat]] 08:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::And I'd have gotten away [[Wikipedia:No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man|with it]] too, if it weren't for you [[Scooby-Doo|meddling kids]]. Y'know, it suddenly occurs to me just how incredibly surreal this conversation would look to anyone who viewing either my talkpage or yours, but not both together.. Oh well, let 'em wonder. I can just tell them the voices make me say these things... On a slightly more serious note, I'm happy to chat back and forth as long as you like, but if I'm spamming up your talk page too much, let me know and I can stop =) --[[User:Monorail Cat|Monorail Cat]] 09:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::: Feel free to spam with impunity for the next 9 hours, as I'm off to bed! However, before I go I feel I must point out that you seem to enjoy wearing that Spiderman costume just a ''little'' too much. Don't get me wrong, if it floats your boat than its cool with me. However, its my duty to inform you that [[User:WLU/you should not spread your fetish across Wikipedia like mustard on a delicious, delicious ham sandwich|you should not spread your Superhero fetish across Wikipedia like mustard on a delicious, delicious ham sandwich]], lest we go rouge on your ass. And that ain't pretty. Goodnight ;) [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 09:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::Good grief! I bring up a surreal Wikipedia page, and you raise me an even surreal..er? one! I can see it's going to be a long, long time before I've 'seen it all' here. Well, g'night, anyways, and I hope your dreams aren't tainted by images of men climbing public structures in tight leotards with insect emblems (unless that's your thing, of course, in which case.. enjoy!) :D --[[User:Monorail Cat|Monorail Cat]] 09:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities&diff=prev&oldid=175622445 Indeed,] the last line can be tricky! [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]] ([[User talk:Tyrenius|talk]]) 01:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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[[User:Varlaam]]'s slow revert-war on [[Hedd Wyn (film)|Hedd Wyn]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hedd_Wyn_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=472354397 continues]. One of his blocks ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive656#Varlaam.27s_recent_edits this one]) relates to the same article. You first contributed to his talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Varlaam&diff=401819841&oldid=401799965 here]. Please advise if any action should be taken to prevent further disruption. Thanks, [[User:Daicaregos|Daicaregos]] ([[User talk:Daicaregos|talk]]) 08:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:No amount of requests to discuss seem to elicit a response (to the talk page). [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hedd_Wyn_(film)&diff=next&oldid=472541566 This] is exactly the sort of edit summary for which he was blocked previously. It may be in everyone's interests for a topic ban. What do you think? [[User:Daicaregos|Daicaregos]] ([[User talk:Daicaregos|talk]]) 15:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC) |
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: Hi Daicaregos. My apologies for the delay in responding to your message. I've been really snowed under a work recently and have had no time for Wikipedia. I'll ''try'' and catch up with the background to this over the weekend and respond then. I don't think it would be fair to comment prior to that. If you need more urgent action taken, I'd suggest dropping a notice at AN/I. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 23:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Hitting the Beeb is big-time, indeed though ''Nature'' was right up there to start with. I wonder if what you have discovered (with the aid of a colleague or two) is the same reaction that causes people dealing with horses never to take into the stall of one stallion a rag that has touched another stallion, and contains <s>its</s> his sweat. [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] ([[User talk:Bielle|talk]]) 01:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the training on how to use wiki and all the useful information. |
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:I really have to bring my congratulations here also. Dear Rockpocket, you are my virtual friend and mentor; and that's as fulsome as Clio gets! ♥ [[User:Clio the Muse|Clio the Muse]] ([[User talk:Clio the Muse|talk]]) 02:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Have you seen [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Humanities&diff=prev&oldid=473872858 this]? Check the end of [[User:Wnt|Wnt's]] second paragraph. Can you ship me some? :>) [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] ([[User talk:Bielle|talk]]) 06:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:: Thank you both. It is exciting times indeed, we just heard that my boss has been interviewed for an appearance on ''[[Good Morning America]]'' tomorrow! |
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: I am prone to worry what someone with that sort of crazy logic might do to a colony of mice. His final sentence is particularly perplexing! [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 12:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::That is a very interesting question, Bielle. Although it isn't in this paper, we have since been looking more closely at the proteins, where they are found and in what other species the same system is likely to be at play. As it happens I have found one horse protein of the same type. It was originally described by immunologists as a potent [[allergen]], and we know that it is found in horse saliva and skin dandruff (the mouse ones are found in saliva too). No-one has looked to see if it is in sweat (yet). I wasn't aware that there was such a behavioural response to sweat in stallions, that is really interesting. Are you familiar with it, if so have you ever noticed the characteristic [[Flehmen response]] in stallions when smelling the rag? That would be a real clue as to the mechanism is similar. Let me speak to my colleagues about this and I'll get back to you, as it could be something we could look at. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 02:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Being allergic to horses, I don't spend time near them if I can help it. The comment arose from a murder mystery, of all things. I can't recall if the book was by [[John Francome]] or [[Dick Francis]]. They both write murder mysteries set in the horse-racing community, and both are known for the realistic settings of their books. In the book of which I speak, all sweat rags, and the "lab coats" worn by staff around stallions, were left with each stallion, and never carried into the stall area of another stallion. By making this mistake, one character in the book was trampled to death by a stallion. (I suggest then that a trial of letting a stallion smell the rag of another stallion might get a more energetic response than you would like.) I can check the real world with a friend whose horse farm has 200 breeding thoroughbred mares, but not until tomorrow night. If she hasn't noticed the [[Flehmen response]] among the stallions she has and/or uses, then perhaps someone on her staff has. Now, what army (national or private) will be interested in applying this aggressive response to humans, and what domestic-violence help group will be interested in its reverse application? You will be busy for quite some time, I suspect. [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] ([[User talk:Bielle|talk]]) 03:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::: I would be interested in any information your friend could provide, Bielle. There is no direct implication for human behaviour, I'm afraid. We only have one copy of the gene (mice have 20) and it is [[pseudogene|pseudogenized]] and thus non-functional. Moreover, we don't have a functional version of [[vomeronasal organ|the organ]] mice use to detect it. However, it is the first step towards identifying a specific neural circuit in the brain that encodes a complex behaviour in mammals. Thats where we are going next and that is where is becomes relevant to humans in terms of behavioural disorders. |
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:::: Its been a day of much drama indeed, here. My wife's lab was evacuated today after an animal right group warned they had left a bomb in the building, and then someone found what appeared to be a [[propane]] tank covered in bullets. The FBI were called and, 10 hours later, have just announced that it wasn't armed, which is a relief. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 04:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Out here in the country, buried in snow, excitement is a hairy woodpecker that flew into my bedroom window and now lies dead on the snow of the deck. I can't even get to the body as there is too much ice under the snow. I prefer my drama to yours, though I wish the bird hadn't died. They often fly into our windows and then bounce away to recover in a nearby birch, spruce or willow. No bomb threats, please, but, if you must have them, may they always be false alarms. I will report back on what my horse-breeding friend has to say. [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] ([[User talk:Bielle|talk]]) 04:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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So I'm reading the [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7129176.stm BBC website] and I suddenly realise you were probably inspired by wikipedia to start this research. Or maybe you were drawn to wikipedia to prove your thesis? :) [[User:David D.|David D.]] [[User talk:David D.|(Talk)]] 23:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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: Territorialism, male aggression, pissing matches... you're right, it could be about Wikipedia! [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 00:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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==MSU Interview== |
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::Where do the girls fit in here?! [[User:Clio the Muse|Clio the Muse]] ([[User talk:Clio the Muse|talk]]) 00:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Girls? There are no girls here, everyone knows they are just manipulative sock puppets accounts of males. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 00:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Truth will out! [[User:Clio the Muse|Clio the Muse]] ([[User talk:Clio the Muse|talk]]) 00:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::: I look forward to that! <small>(Rockpocket's filthy mind goes into overdrive)</small> [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 00:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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My name is Jonathan Obar [[user:Jaobar]], I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_82#Learn_to_be_a_Wikipedia_Administrator_-_New_class_at_MSU|HERE]], where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students. |
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::::::So, what's the virtual equivalent of a pheromone? A green signature? ---[[User:Sluzzelin|Sluzzelin]] [[User talk:Sluzzelin|<small>talk</small>]] 01:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::: My experience tells me it is one of these: [[Image:Admin_mop.PNG|22px]] [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 01:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::::Ha ha! We need to find volunteers willing to blindly sniff admin-shirts in order to substantiate that! (*Takes one step back*) By the way, in your olfactory studies, has anyone ever mentioned that there's a German expression ''I can't smell him'' (meaning "I can't stand him")? Perhaps our ancestors knew more than we like to assume. ---[[User:Sluzzelin|Sluzzelin]] [[User talk:Sluzzelin|<small>talk</small>]] 12:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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(Reset indent) I spoke to my horse-breeding friend. She said she would ask someone with serious practical knowledge. Owners, she says, provide money, facilities, equipment, money and more money; the staff are the ones that know horses. Aside from knowing that stallion corrals are always round (so that nothing, including them) can be cornered in them, and that stallions are generally kept as far apart as the real estate will allow, she relies on the expertise of others. I wil report when I hear back. [[User:Bielle|Bielle]] ([[User talk:Bielle|talk]]) 03:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Thank you for the warm welcome on my page! Maybe you can tell me how to become involved with a Wikiprojects group? It seems a great way to dive in and start contributing.[[User:SkyllaLaFey|SkyllaLaFey]] ([[User talk:SkyllaLaFey|talk]]) 05:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name [[User:Jaobar/Admins_to_Interview_List_1|HERE]] instead. |
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Hello! [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 11:56, 1 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Just testing [[User:Alexbateman|Alexbateman]] ([[User talk:Alexbateman|talk]]) 11:57, 1 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Hey Rockpocket, I haven’t needed to ask you for help in ages, so I guess I’m ready to graduate from my Wiki-adoption. Thanks so much for your help! I’ll try to do the same for another new Wikipedian someday when I have the necessary experience. Cheers, --[[User:S.dedalus|S.dedalus]] ([[User talk:S.dedalus|talk]]) 00:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
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: Hi S.dedalus, while I have probably been somewhat negligent recently in following your edits, what I have seen has been top notch (mainly at the Ref Desks). Briefly looking over your edit history, its clear you most certainly are familiar enough with Wikipedia that you could guide newbies. Its been my pleasure to work with you and feel free to drop by in the future if there is anything I can assist you with. I'll change the userbox to a graduation one presently! [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 00:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi Rockpocket. I know you are less active these days, but I wondered if you could have a look at [[User:Murry1975]]' s recent edits. I have started a general and a specific discussion about whether [[WP:IMOS]] should supersede [[WP:OVERLINK]] as regards linking [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]. In both discussions he has [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Eoin_Colfer&diff=prev&oldid=493319950 repeatedly] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Ireland-related_articles&diff=prev&oldid=493319148 called] me a "dick" in spite of my [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Ireland-related_articles&diff=prev&oldid=493318687 pointing out] that I regard this as a personal attack. More to the point, he has not answered my specific questions on overlinking. Would it be possible for you to have a word with him when you have a chance? I will withdraw from the discussions for now and let other editors have their say. Take care, --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 10:17, 19 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::Thanks Rockpocket! You’ve given me a terrific head-start here. See you ‘round. --[[User:S.dedalus|S.dedalus]] ([[User talk:S.dedalus|talk]]) 00:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi, Rockie! Once again I turn to you for help, though this time on a very minor matter. I'll be jetting of to Africa just before Christmas, as you know. I would like to put an 'I'm off on holiday template' on my user page prior to this, just in case anybody is wondering where I am. I saw a nice one some time ago on another user's page, with a cute little aeroplane! So far I've not been able to locate this. Could you please point me in the right direction? Thanks ever so. [[User:Clio the Muse|Clio the Muse]] ([[User talk:Clio the Muse|talk]]) 23:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Regarding [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rangers_F.C.&diff=497542575&oldid=497537705 this]: not only isn't there a source attached to it, but it's just an announcement of intent. To be quite honest I'd be surprised if Companies House allowed for such a minor change of trading name as "The Rangers Football Club plc" to just "The Rangers Football Club". I really don't think we should be reporting as fact every thing said in a press conference right now, especially given the historical fragility of announcements from the administrators / owners / potential bidders in this case. There's an ongoing discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Rangers F.C.]] if you're interested. Cheers! [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 12:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC) |
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:Is this: {{vacation3}} |
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:It is being widely reported by reliable sources (which I didn't add simply because it was in the lead). For example, the BBC are reporting the new trading name "is" The Rangers Football Club, which is more than a statement of intent. Nonetheless, I take your points and if there is a consensus, or at least a justification, for removal at this time then that is fine. I just don't typically accept reverts of good faith edits without explanation. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 12:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC) |
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:what you’re looking for? There are many at [[WP:WIKIBREAK]]. Cheers, --[[User:S.dedalus|S.dedalus]] ([[User talk:S.dedalus|talk]]) 00:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:: I haven't seen any evidence that the "Sevco" coalition even exists as a company right now, let alone that they've registered a new name. Apologies for the revert, but there's a great deal of attention on this article right now and the change to past tense in particular was getting some significant interest. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 13:36, 14 June 2012 (UTC) |
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He doesn't like the contribution of anyone who disagrees with him. |
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He also like to get people banned for things he did wrong. |
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==Train the Trainer - Wikimedia UK workshop for volunteers who deliver training events== |
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But, hey, let's just let people tell him what he did wrong so he can ignore/delete it and never have to improve. |
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Hi Rockpocket, |
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To support the volunteers who are delivering Wikimedia training, Wikimedia UK is organising another Train the Trainer event on 27-28 October, in London. I really hope that you will be able to attend - if so please sign up: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_the_Trainers/October_event |
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The page will also give you more information about the event, but if you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact me (daria.cybulska{{@}}wikimedia.org.uk). Thanks! [[User:Daria Cybulska|Daria Cybulska]] ([[User talk:Daria Cybulska|talk]]) 11:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC) |
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== [[Fake: Forgery, Lies, & eBay]] == |
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[[User:Duggy 1138|Duggy 1138]] ([[User talk:Duggy 1138|talk]]) 06:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Hello, thanks for tagging this for notability. 5 years later it's still there, and you may want to consider starting a merge discussion. Best wishes, [[User:Boleyn|Boleyn]] ([[User talk:Boleyn|talk]]) 09:16, 31 January 2013 (UTC) |
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: Maybe that is so, but nothing will be achieved by revert warring with him on his own talk page, other than you getting blocked for [[WP:3RR]]. Just let it go. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 06:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== WP:FOUR RFC == |
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:: Maybe he'll learn to wake up for himself. He's already got me 3RR blocked because '''''he''''' refused to stop using the Australian Election 2007 talk page as a forum on Preferential Voting. |
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:: Weeks later and he's still behaving arrogantly, and I think he needs to wake up. |
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:: [[User:Duggy 1138|Duggy 1138]] ([[User talk:Duggy 1138|talk]]) 06:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Its difficult to see how he alone got you 3RR blocked - I'm assuming it wasn't him that hit ''your'' revert button 4 times? Nevertheless, looking at your exchange, and from my own experience with Timeshift, its clear his understanding of [[WP:CIV|civility]] is not exactly crystal clear. But, y'know people begin to notice these things and over time those editors who are chronically incivil begin to attract attention. In the meantime, put that one down to experience and move on. Getting yourself blocked again is not going to help. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 06:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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There are two [[WP:RFC]]s at [[WP:FOUR]]. The first is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AFour_Award&diff=569306744&oldid=569202730 to conflate issues] so as to keep people from expressing meaningful opinions. The second, by me, is claimed to be less than neutral by proponents of the first. Please look at the second one, which I think is much better.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 07:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:::: Why do you think he deletes negative stuff from his page? Could it be because he knows that it slows down the chances of people noticing and attracting attention. |
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:::: OK, yeah, I did 3RR, but only in attempt to kill a quickly growing non-wiki discussion. I did kill it, but I did break a rule. I was punished for it. Although it was generally agreed that Timeshift did wrong nothing was done about that. And so he gets away with it. Again. |
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== Levineps == |
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:::::At that time the discussion was restored and actually did continue to a natural conclusion, for the record - only one other person agreed with the user that the discussion was "wrong". [[User talk:Orderinchaos|Orderinchaos]] 07:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Rockpocket, isn't [[User:Levineps|Levineps]] banned indefinitely from creating new categories? Please see his recent contributions. Thanks, [[User:Jweiss11|Jweiss11]] ([[User talk:Jweiss11|talk]]) 10:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC) |
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::::::Yet afterwards many people did. Which is why it was officially removed. |
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:Seems like tattle telling, this ban was years ago I believe I've changed since then. Didn't realize I was even still banned to be honest. How can this ban go away?--[[User:Levineps|Levineps]] ([[User talk:Levineps|talk]]) 14:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC):: |
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::::::And I disagree with your claim that it that it ended naturally. After all, after you restored it, only one person added to it. You. It seems to me that maybe the removal of the thread may have caused most sensible people to realise they were in the wrong. |
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::Levineps, on your user page, there is a rather large list of the sanctions imposed on you. It says "These restrictions were imposed on 31 December 2009. They are indefinite by community consensus, as interpreted by Coffee with minor clarification by Rockpocket. They may be lifted by formal community proposal, or by emailing ArbCom." Seems you've also used the "I forgot I was banned" excuse before; see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=427411863#Levineps_and_yet_another_violation_of_his_editing_restrictions|here]. My intent here is not to "tattle tell" but to serve the Wikipedia community. I know that you have made a mess of categories in the past, and it appears that you may be headed back in that direction; see [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 September 1#Category:Academic publishing companies of the United States]]. [[User:Jweiss11|Jweiss11]] ([[User talk:Jweiss11|talk]]) 15:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC) |
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::::::[[User:Duggy 1138|Duggy 1138]] ([[User talk:Duggy 1138|talk]]) 23:21, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::: My apologies for being late to the party on this - I edit relatively infrequently these days. Seems another admin has dealt with it in the meantime. For what its worth, I suggest when Levineps returns from his most recent block he appeals to the community for the terms of his sanctions to be loosened. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 20:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC) |
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== September 2013 == |
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: I don't know why he does it, but its not unusual and neither is it against policy (currently). A lot of people do, though it tends to be people that see Wikipedia as a battleground that does so. I, personally, think because its the one area that an editor has an element of individual control over on Wikipedia. So when there is a dispute, they feel an element of "victory" since their "opponent" is not permitted to revert them. There is also the aspect of removing it from view, so a pattern of behaviour less obvious. That doesn't work too well, though. As I said, people notice and they remember. |
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: Look, two people can behave equally badly on wikipedia and one can get blocked and the other doesn't simply because the latter knows how the system works. That might work in the short term, but if you game the system long enough you get caught out. Its not worth worry about it, what is important is your behaviour. Stick to the rules, be polite and you will be fine. Let other people be rude if they want to, it will catch up with them in the end. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 07:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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*<nowiki>Scherer's group has published over 350 papers and patents cited more than 30,000 times.<ref></nowiki>{{red|'''['''}}<nowiki>http://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=NKTqN4IAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao Scherer's Citation count</nowiki>{{red|'''}'''}}<nowiki></ref><ref>Geneticist honoured. Discovery of epilepsy gene puts researcher in elite group. May 10th,</nowiki> |
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I finally discovered my inbox on my wiki profile account, and just wanted to send a thank you for the welcome letter you sent me. |
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==A Suggestion...== |
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Hi Darren. Your name has come up on Jimmy Wales' talk page with regard to your editing of Wellcome Sanger. Editing on a page dealing with one's employer is not prohibited no matter what anyone may say to the contrary. However, it would be a very good idea indeed if you would make clear your relationship to the company on the article's talk page so that your edits can be examined in the light of full information. I don't see a problem, myself, but declaring one's COI is always a best practice. Happy editing. —Tim Davenport, Corvallis, OR, USA /// [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 16:27, 26 September 2013 (UTC) |
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== Thanks... == |
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:Hi Tim, thanks for bringing this to my intention. I'm pretty comfortable with the fact that I declare my professional affiliation very clearly on my user page and I am sufficiently experienced in editing to know what is appropriate factual content and what is not. If someone has an issue with the content that I add to the WTSI page, then I am very happy to defer to their (or a third opinion) due to potential COI considerations. That has not happened to date. So I just get on with improving the encyclopedia when and wherever I can. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 22:19, 26 September 2013 (UTC) |
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for your contrubution in [[talk:Biopsychiatry controversy]] when I was on a wiki-break. I already posted some comments in that page. [[User:Cesar Tort|Cesar Tort]] 22:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== Potential sockpuppet of Levineps == |
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== Errors on page about the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine == |
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Recently, [[User:Oriole85]] ([[Special:Contributions/Oriole85|contribs]]) has been sporadically popping up on my watchlist for category-related changes. A lot of new users do that, so it wasn't a particularly noteworthy thing for me. But then he kept showing up with a higher frequency, oftentimes making (what I thought to be) completely unnecessary over-categorizations to articles. I've been on Wikipedia long enough to know that [[User:Levineps]] ([[Special:Contributions/Levineps|contribs]]) is one of the most notorious over-categorizers we've ever seen (and has the community sanctions, block records, and bans to show for it). So, I did about two minutes' worth of research and discovered that Oriole85's account was created / his edits began on November 5, 2013. When was the last edit by Levineps? November 4, 2013. That is not a coincidence IMO. I don't have (a) the time right now, nor (b) the motivation to formally open an SPI, but I'm hoping that one of the many people I'm notifying about this does. If you're wondering why you're being pinged about this, it's because I saw where you were one of the people who has left messages on Levineps' talk page at some point regarding his inappropriate editing. So now, in addition to all of the aforementioned issues with Levineps, it looks like a probably sockpuppet to throw into the mix. [[User:Jrcla2|Jrcla2]] ([[User talk:Jrcla2|talk]]) 05:33, 5 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Hi Rockpocket: I'm the communications director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, and I've noted a number of serious errors on the page about our organization. These problems need to be fixed right away. What is the best way to proceed? |
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==hi review== |
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Thanks. |
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hello i am new here |
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just made an article need help to improve it. is it possible for u to find some one having a bit knowledge of bioinformatics or computational biology. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Demi_lion/Jpred this is my article. it would be nice to get some help from user who has experience in writing articles.[[User:Demi lion|Demi lion]] ([[User talk:Demi lion|talk]]) 20:30, 27 February 2014 (UTC) |
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== Request for comment == |
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Patrick Sullivan |
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psullivan@pcrm.org <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.200.174.91|76.200.174.91]] ([[User talk:76.200.174.91|talk]]) 18:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by {{noping|Anna Frodesiak}}. Your comments [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Pre-RfA_opinion_page|here]] is very much appreciated. Many thanks. [[User:Jim Cartar|Jim Carter]] through [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC) |
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== wotcha rockpocket == |
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== Clarification motion == |
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hi Rockpocket, me and mine are generally ok, have not been active due to being off work long term. Some crazy shit happened a few months ago, and perry Jr was not at all well. Jr now fitting fit (our little Lionheart) and the family is looking forward to christmas. Congrats on the nature article, mmm mouse piss... you and yours have a good one and hopefully my inane and unhelpful comments will return to the ref pages soon wahoo![[User:Perry-mankster|Perry-mankster]] ([[User talk:Perry-mankster|talk]]) 15:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC) |
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==[[Claus Wedekind]]== |
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He seems to be known for a good deal of other work as well, so I removed the Prod. You might want to add some of it from his CV, and perhaps a citation count from Web of Science. Which would be the best article if he were known only for that work is an interesting & unsettled question. Some would go with an article on the specific study, but I would generally prefer the scientist, because the scientist is the article likely to be expanded.. However, in this case there isn't really much doubt that he should have a separate article-- He seems to be primarily an authority on sperm competition in fish. My guess is that the Tshirt study was done as a diversion, & got picked up as interesting--certainly most people might think it more interesting than his main subect. The eds. judgment there is not infallible:), but I think he was right this time. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 22:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::followed up on my user talk page.'''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 03:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC) |
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A case ([[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles|The Troubles]]) in which you were involved has been modified by {{oldid2|631252824|Motion|motion}} which changed the wording of the [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/The_Troubles#Standard_discretionary_sanctions|discretionary sanctions section]] to clarify that the scope applies to pages, not just articles. For the arbitration committee --[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 21:04, 27 October 2014 (UTC) |
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==Thanks for Using Wikiversity Appropriately== |
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==Category:Genes mutated in mice== |
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'''[[:Category:Genes mutated in mice]]''', which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 November 25#Category:Genes mutated in mice|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|Categories for discussion]] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. [[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 07:52, 25 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Rockpocket, I wanted to thank you personally for recommending that A.Z. come learn and contribute to Wikiversity while he sorts out issues with arbcom, perhaps overly zealous editors, and learns how to interact more effectively with wiki communities. I view it as a large learning opportunity for the current Wikiversity community attempting to grow the community and develop methods sufficient to run a large set of virtual distributed learning environments via wikimedia and other software and the internet. Below I have attempted to award you a Wikiversity Barnstar. I am not certain that it will work accross wikis so I will tell you verbally it is the basic barnstar. No, syntax appears different. Text gets point accross however, 3 is current the "Shooting Star". Nice shot! 8) Thanks again and keep up the good work! [[v:user:mirwin]] 26 Dec 07 |
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:Thanks, I've left a comment there. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 12:22, 25 November 2014 (UTC) |
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::Is there any mouse gene for which we have proof that it does not mutate? Then, given time, would you not expect all these genes to mutate at some point? What, if anything, is the difference between "mutated genes" and "non-mutated genes"? Look at the parent cat and how few articles it contains (FIVE, 2 of them one-line "articles" and 2 of them databases). Look at the articles what they are actually about. In addition, are you going to create categories for "genes mutated in C. elegans"? "Genes mutated in D. melanogaster"? "Genes mutated in Polar Bears"? I really think that this categorization tree needs significant overhaul in order to be useful. --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 23:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the concern Rockpocket, appreciated. I have no idea where to find the "ruling" - could you give me a link? Call me St Thomas, but I need to study it myself - I appear to mis-remember it - I was sure it said IPs could be reverted at will. (And if it didn't it certainly should have 'cos the present mess only facilitates puppets etc. Happy New Year; I will '''strive''' not to get blocked - but you know me! ([[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777|talk]]) 03:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)) |
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== RfC user:A.Z. == |
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You might want to put your [[ORCID]] iD on your user page, as described at [[WP:ORCID]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 14:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC) |
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My understanding is that they want us to contact ArbCom in private. However, my understanding of policy also shows that an RfC could be used if there are 2 people that object to the conduct of a user. --[[User:CyclePat|CyclePat]] ([[User talk:CyclePat|talk]]) 09:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[WP:ACE2015|ArbCom elections are now open!]] == |
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==Troubles Arbcom again== |
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Hi. There was an "War-box" added to [[The Troubles]] article without any consensus and despite the history of the article. I changed it to reflect a more acceptable (to me) version pending discussion and agreement. [[User:Traditional unionist]] simply reverted my change within seconds; I reinstated and he reverted again, threatening to "report me" if I changed it back. Now Trad U is a named participant at the Troubles Workshop and is under very clear, strict and unambiguous orders to make no more than one revert '''per week''': |
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{{Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2015/MassMessage}} [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 13:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC) |
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As I have been twice blocked once, without any relief, for accidentally breaching 3RR I call on you to block [[User:Traditional unionist]] for breaching his terms of probation. (What he did was clear edit-warring in any case - but this is an automatic like 3RR, or else it means nothing). |
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[[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter|News and updates for administrators]] from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please [[Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe|subscribe]]. Your [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter|feedback]] is welcomed. |
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:*A [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators#Workshopping an RfC on the inactivity policy|discussion]] to workshop proposals to amend the [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Lengthy inactivity|administrator inactivity policy]] at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators]] has been in process since late December 2016. |
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:*[[Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016]] closed with no consensus for implementing [[Wikipedia:Pending changes#Effect of various protection levels|Pending changes level 2]] with new criteria for use. |
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:*Following [[Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Activity requirements|an RfC]], an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators. |
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:*When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. ([[Phab:T34950|T34950]]) |
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:*Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Make PC2 no longer available to admins|RfC]] closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. ([[Phab:T156448|T156448]]) |
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:* The Foundation has [[:mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2017-January/086013.html|announced]] a new [[meta:Community health initiative|community health initiative]] to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017. |
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[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|20px]] '''Arbitration''' |
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:*The Arbitration Committee released [[Special:Permalink/762120256#Response to the Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and outing|a response]] to the Wikimedia Foundation's [[Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and outing|statement on paid editing and outing]]. |
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:* [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009. |
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As his last revert was illegal, either you should revert it or I should be allowed to do so; or better still - remove the box until it is discussed and agreed. ([[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777|talk]]) 20:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)) |
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::I really resent your tone when responding to this. Sarah was attempting to ignore the principle of discussion and consensus, which I was protecting the page from. Yet I am being implicated for edit warring. I am not the problem in this instance and resent the implication that I am.[[User:Traditional unionist|Traditional unionist]] ([[User talk:Traditional unionist|talk]]) 11:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::TU; you were warring with Domer and breached 3RR for crissakes! None of us here are Saints. Did I not already apologise to you? ([[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777|talk]]) 17:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)) |
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:::: I didn't mean to implicate ''you'' were the problem, TU. I was trying to explain that edit-warring is a problem and it takes more than one person to edit-war. Editors almost always consider their actions are to "protect the page" from something, with editors on the other side attempting to do the same. That is what leads to an editor war. Whether Sarah was most at fault in this particular instance is rather beside the point. You were blocked for edit-warring on another page at the same time, suggesting that you are as willing to edit-war as she is. Unless vandalism is involved, hitting the revert button more than once in succession is almost never a good idea. If you both followed [[WP:BRD]], then this problem would go away. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 20:28, 31 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Hi Rockpocket, sorry to return so quickly to this issue but if my reading of this is correct Domer is being hounded a bit. This was something he posted on another page [[User talk:Heimstern]]: |
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I feel I must respond to the above editor, and possibly you might have some advice. On the [[Kevin Barry]] article they abuse their [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=173325545&oldid=173324948 admin tools] , and then had to be [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=next&oldid=173325545 warned] about it. They follow me to the [[Segi]] article and start there, adding things to referenced text. They then go and block me. Admin John was decent enough to provide [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Domer48/Archive_10#Looks_like_3RR_to_me the diff's]. While other editors noted the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=178701992&oldid=178689860 COI] (they did not respond), which is an abuse of admin tools, admin SirFozzie was the only one who would agreed that the Diff's did show they were for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alison&diff=179048389&oldid=179046390 different things] (not the same edit). I did not even get put on a 3rr report. I reported them for a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive62#User:R._fiend_reported_by_User:Domer48__.28Result:_No_violation.29 3 rr] same situation, and they walk away from it. It then got to the stage were Fozz gave them a strong [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:R._fiend#Enough warning], which they [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Easter_Rising&curid=159805&diff=179215293&oldid=179213620 ignored], and told Admin John to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=179216709&oldid=179215926 to leave their incivility in a post]. Regardless of all this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tom_Clarke_%28Irish_republican%29&diff=179227820&oldid=179227382 they still] can not be civil. It was as a result of this that I learn that they have a history of this. Another Admin had to step in on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=141858709&oldid=138251706 Patrick Pearse]article. They [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:R._fiend#Inquiry Block another editor], and thought light of it. And have been pulled judging from a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:R._fiend page littered with civility warnings]. Now they have followed me to more articles [[Irish Volunteers]], [[Sean Heuston]], [[Thomas Clarke]], [[Easter Rising]], [[Roger Casement]] and the afore mentioned [[Patrick Pearse]] article. Having filed another 3 rr [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive62#User:R._fiend_reported_by_User:Domer48_.28Result:_Warning.29 notice] still were not blocked for edit warring. And still the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Easter_Rising&diff=179887650&oldid=179779098 abuse] because I read. Then their buddy [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=179221705&oldid=179220652 jumps in] notice the last revert on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Easter_Rising&action=history this article]. To top it all they abused their admin tool to edit an article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Easter_Rising&diff=179247486&oldid=179048263 which was protected] despite no agreement reached, and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:R._fiend&diff=179048139&oldid=179046635 dispite being warned not to]. Admin SirFozzie started an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=next&oldid=179259791#Request_for_more_eyes_related_to_Easter_Rising_and_Tom_Clarke_.28Irish_republican.29 AN/I report] which went no were, and is still hanging in the air. They now accuse me of being an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Easter_Rising&diff=181095164&oldid=181088709 IRA supporter] because I like to edit Republican history articles. So if I got the hump with your block, you may now understand. Any advice would be welcome, could you please post on my talk page.--[[User:Domer48|Domer48]] ([[User talk:Domer48|talk]]) 11:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC) |
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I thought tailing an editor across Wiki was verboten? Should I maybe take a keen interest in some of these editor's work? This will lead to chaos unless someone calls a halt. I would be interested in your considered views on the situation - I have no suggestion what to do as I don't know at this stage. ([[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777|talk]]) 16:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)) |
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# (cur) (last) 14:57, January 1, 2008 Aatomic1 (Talk | contribs) (40,178 bytes) (Synthesizing states that Summarizing source material without changing its meaning is not synthesis — it is good editing.) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 13:48, January 1, 2008 Domer48 (Talk | contribs) (39,905 bytes) (→Planning the Rising - As per discussion, please read WP:SYN, and WP:OR. Please provide a definitive statement) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 21:46, December 31, 2007 R. fiend (Talk | contribs) (40,178 bytes) (clarify opening (plus grammar)) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 08:55, December 31, 2007 R. fiend (Talk | contribs) m (40,162 bytes) (→Planning the Rising) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 01:17, December 31, 2007 Aatomic1 (Talk | contribs) (40,158 bytes) (Reinsert referenced material) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 00:58, December 31, 2007 Sarah777 (Talk | contribs) (39,885 bytes) (Please read WP:SYN and WP:OR, please use the talk page) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 23:00, December 30, 2007 R. fiend (Talk | contribs) m (40,158 bytes) (Reverted edits by Domer48 (talk) to last version by R. fiend) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 22:43, December 30, 2007 Domer48 (Talk | contribs) (39,885 bytes) (Please read WP:SYN and WP:OR, please use the talk page) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 19:08, December 30, 2007 R. fiend (Talk | contribs) (40,158 bytes) (see talk) (undo) |
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# (cur) (last) 20:00, December 29, 2007 Domer48 (Talk | contribs) (39,885 bytes) (Says no such thing. Put it up on the talk page, and let editors see what it says) (undo) |
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== My recent edits == |
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"Even if the other editor is rude to you, replying in kind is not acceptable." My harsh words have been restricted to those who, in my opinion, have gratuitously vandalised my edits, for example by repeatedly removing both article content and the reference I'd provided for it at the same time as accusing me of never providing references. Where editors with doubts about my contributions have dealt with me courteously I've responded politely and constructively. |
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"Please not that WP should state facts, not explain, justify or reason... value judgements and reflect your opinion." I realised that this passage was likely to cause problems on these grounds & so replaced it with one that only reports fact & does not contain judgements of mine some time before you contacted me about this. I had previously made a similar voluntary revision to a potentially problematic passage I'd added to another page. |
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"Finally, when adding controversial or historical content, you must cite a reliable source." I *have* been doing so, other than for the Sands football song & where I've linked to other articles. *All* the info I've added has been verifiable by reference either to works that were already in the articles' bibliographies that I happen to have read or to books that I've added to said bibliographies. Unfortunately, I can't prevent other editors from repeatedly claiming in edit summaries, entirely falsely, that my info is unsourced, or prevent them from deleting the references I've added. |
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"A link to another article is not sufficient." I'll take this on board as of now. I had only relied upon links to other WP articles where I was 100% confident from my knowledge of sources outwith WP that the info in the other articles was accurate & verifiable. |
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I'm sure you've spent enough time on me as you care to, but I felt I had to respond as you seemed to have been taken in by the false, & I believe malicious, accusations that contributions weren't covered by works that had been referenced.[[Special:Contributions/80.229.9.98|80.229.9.98]] ([[User talk:80.229.9.98|talk]]) 03:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Thanks again, & sorry for asking for more of your time & energy. I don't plan to make a habit of this, but I'd like to ask how you suggest I proceed in the case of a particular difference of opinion... |
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I recently edited the William Wallace article. I now find that RiverHockey has removed the text... |
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"One very prominent error is the depiction of Wallace as a kilted Gael rather than the Anglophonic lowlander that he was (the 'nationalisation' of Gaelic culture and popular generalisation that Scotland as a whole is 'Celtic' date from the eithteenth century).<ref>http://medievalscotland.org/scotbiblio/bravehearterrors.shtml Medieval Scotland website</ref><ref>Pittock, Murray G.H. ''The Invention of Scotland: The Stuart Myth and the Scottish Identity, 1638 to the Present'', Routledge 1991</ref>" |
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...& given the edit summary "remove biased entry from troublesome user...". |
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I don't understand the accusation of bias because I really can't see what bias is being alleged. In the light of what I've put in edit summaries, I'm not about to complain about being called a "troublesome user" - its significance here is that I don't believe I'll get a reasonable response from RiverHockey if I just ask for an explanation. I did have a spat with RiverHockey on the Battle of Culloden talk page, but I've since attempted to improve the tone between us on that page & it certainly isn't something that need spill over into discussion of an unrelated article. |
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My instinct is to undo RiverHockey's edit with "See talk" in the summary & ask on the talk page what the problem is, but I'm not sure at what point reverting becomes an edit war. An alternative would be for me to leave the article as it currently is for the mo', but ask for an explanation of the allegation of bias on the talk page & say that if bias can't be established reasonably swiftly then I'll restore the text. |
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: I'll reply here simply to keep the conversation together. There is not really a good justification for his reversion, so I have reverted back and asked RiverHockey to discuss his problems on the talk page. If you adopt a collegial tone with him and try to work with him to address his issues, then he should reply favourably. If he doesn't then he is the one being troublesome, since you appear to had added good sourced content. I find [[WP:BRD]] a really good way to edit. Be [[WP:BOLD|bold]], but if someone reverts then don't re-revert, instead engage with them, ask then specifically what the problem is and how you can address it. Work them around, then make the agreed change with their support. That way you build relationships, which builds trust, which builds good articles. |
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: I note that on the same article you and RepublicanJacobite worked together to add some material. Thats how it should work and will go some way to show other editors of your intentions. I may take time, but stay patient and turn the other cheek to comments like the "troublesome user" one. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 08:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Thanks for watching the debate. I have just joined wikipedia (new years vow of all things) but followed the meta-stuff for years. But in practice it is a bit different. I am kinda worried about how RS, FRINGE, UNDUE and NPOV (amongst others) are being used to detract from content and rather push an overall POV of the article. It seems you are doing a great job on focusing on this aspect, so kudos. In this case Hrafn has been editing the biopsychiatry controversy article singlehandedly for a too long time and already chased away the "owner" of the article. Not a good start on my wiki career this. : \ --[[User:Benjaminbruheim|Benjaminbruheim]] ([[User talk:Benjaminbruheim|talk]]) 08:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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His edits are based on an online source that holds no merit. I can make 10 such pages and upload them online tonight. Since I can not upload any books for you, this site seems to hold more truth. [http://www.williamwallaceta.co.uk/wallace.htm] -[[User:RiverHockey|RiverHockey]] ([[User talk:RiverHockey|talk]]) 19:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Firstly, my edits are actually based on the knowledge I've acquired as a proper, academic Scottish historian - the online source was already cited when I began my editing & just happens to mention the basic facts that I've added. Also, there seems to be some confusion on RiverHockey's part about the actual meaning of what I added. I described Wallace as an Anglophonic lowlander, i.e. someone from the lowlands whose first language was [Middle] English (what a modern commentator might call 'medieval Scots). I made no comment whatsoever on his ancestry. Incidentally, the account on the website to which RiverHockey has linked ignores the very good possibility that Wallace's family got their name from being descended from the native Brythonic population of southern Scotland - the so-called 'Strathclyde Welsh' - rather than because they'd migrated from Wales to Scotland. That's not especially surprising as that account is decidedly amateurish in tone & was probably written by someone with such poor knowledge of the ethnographic history of early medieval Scotland that they'd never even heard of the Strathclyde Welsh.[[Special:Contributions/80.229.9.98|80.229.9.98]] ([[User talk:80.229.9.98|talk]]) 20:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:That was one of many sources that I pulled up for convenience. I will work with you on Wallace, but your Battle of Culloden edits seem to only provide justification for the Hanoverian atrocities. I don't care if you've cited books related to Covenant Theology, they are obviously going to defend their faith and it's advocates reputations. I can publish a book that claims that the World is Flat, but that does not make it any more true. I believe this to be an example of "History being written by the winner." Of course atrocities were committed on both sides, but unconfirmed excuses shouldn't be incorporated such as you did within [[Battle of Culloden]]. Lastly, the Jacobites did not ''routinely'' rape, burn families from homes, or provide no quarter like their English enemies. Although I am Catholic, I am not Scottish, of Jacobite ancestry, and my partner happens to be a Presbyterian, so I have no deep seated hatred for Covenanters, etc. (as you've implied such sentimental attachments may have clouded my judgment on my talk page).-[[User:RiverHockey|RiverHockey]] ([[User talk:RiverHockey|talk]]) 03:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC) |
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You've made much the same claims & allegations on the Culloden talk page & I've responded there. I suggest that we no longer clog up Rockpocket's talk page as it was only the Wallace issue that brought us here & that's now settled. As for what pro-Stuart thugs ''routinely'' did, I strongly suggest that you do a lot more reading on Scotland under the later Stuarts.[[Special:Contributions/80.229.9.98|80.229.9.98]] ([[User talk:80.229.9.98|talk]]) 10:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC) |
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It seems Cesar is quitting the project again (as he says on my talk page). It is sad, because he is certainly a more focused editor I am. (Especially since I am still learning how to cite properly). I think the core of the issue is that Hrafn thinks only scientific literature counts as valid in this debate, but I am unsure on how to characterize the debate. Perhaps the best option is after all to turn it into a generic "Controversies in psychiatry" since this could include more facets of the debate, especially since the critics are known to criticize many aspects of psychiatry, not just the bio-psychiatry aspect. This could also help keeping out controversies out of the otherwise good psychiatry article. Anyway, it seems like I have to do the reintroduction of sources that Hrafn removed. Though this will be problematic since I myself can't do verification. Especially I disagree with his opinion that the sources are "partisan" considering; obviously people criticizing the hegemony won't be mainstream, that's the point! Caser Tort has a critique on this on his talk page. Thanks for the help again. :) --[[User:Benjaminbruheim|Benjaminbruheim]] ([[User talk:Benjaminbruheim|talk]]) 19:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi. I was recently researching on journals, and came a across several articles. And since found many interesting articles done by informed skeptics. I looked up the organization but when I look up the diff between now and a random old one I feel it is heavily biased. I didn't know SCICOP was an RS, since I feel they usually just give out opinions. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Journal_of_Scientific_Exploration&diff=183182500&oldid=57428046 diff] |
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When I read the old version, I looked up the journal and figured out that this was right. I even saw they were featured on a science program here in norway. They do generate new empirical evidence so I don't see why they are criticized. For example I found an highly interesting article on analysis on errors done in telepathic research that lead me to a stub on economics here on wikipedia. |
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Anyway, it does seem we are slowly improving the biopsychiatry controversy article. :) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Benjaminbruheim|Benjaminbruheim]] ([[User talk:Benjaminbruheim|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Benjaminbruheim|contribs]]) 01:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/R._fiend/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=183927606 Nice one]. I will try to have more faith in the ability of the community as a whole to deal with these problems. I've been getting back into editing Irish and troubles related articles and allowing myself to get annoyed by the unreasonableness of some people. See [[Talk:Lough Neagh#Ridiculous|here]] for example. Must ''every'' Irish article become a battleground and achieve consensus only at the expense of sacrificing article quality? I appreciate your voice of reason, as always, in this fraught area. Best wishes to you, --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 23:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:'Scuse my butting in but this conversation indicates why many Irish editors are so wary of Admins! Someone who feels that deleting a ref to "'''British''' Isles" in an Irish article as "surreal" really doesn't get it - and '''certainly''' could not be safely regarded as psychologically capable of neutrality in relation to Irish articles. And as for "improving the quality of the article"!!! Whoever tried to ''insert'' that term was the person attacking article quality. [[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777|talk]]) 02:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::John may be an admin but neutral he is not. He has shown his hand on a number of occasions. Take anything he says with a pinch of salt and just remember the slant and often intentionally provokative stand point that he comes from.--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] ([[User talk:Vintagekits|talk]]) 03:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC) |
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: Oddly enough, I was having similar discussion with an Irish friend in a bar last night. I honestly don't think we will be able to stop these articles resembling a battleground. Despite the speculation of those with an axe to grind, I am neither British nor Irish (nor, for that matter, American). I find it amazing that, on different occasions, I have been accused of being all three simply because of an edit I made to an Ireland related article. This tells me that, among certain editors on certain subjects, no edit will ever be assessed without attributing motive to the editor (a case in point in this very thread). With that inherent assumption, I don't believe we will ever see this ongoing situation resolved. The best we can perhaps hope for is a level of civility among those fighting those battles. |
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: Whether or not that can be approached and resolved by the community alone, I don't know. But I guess was have an ArbCom remedy that, as the moment, is not really being widely implemented. This is due, in part I believe, to the fact that prior admin action under that remedy was turned into a ''cause célèbre'' by certain anti-admin activists. However, I happen to have faith in the system. I think the wheels will continue to turn slowly, but eventually those people who are unable or unwilling to adhere to community norms will be weeded out. I expect even then it will still be a battleground, but at least it might be a slightly more policy compliant one! [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 04:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::Rockpocket; my comments were directed at John rather than you. I did not support the defrocking of R fiend (proposed) but I must point out it was for '''Admin abuse''', not POV or edit warring. ''Some'' Admins seem to be gliding over that point. I would also reiterate (cos I'm not coy about naming names) that I could not regard John as neutral in Irish/British pov issues. I ask that yourself and John be equally open and '''name''' those you consider "unable or unwilling to adhere to community norms"; <s>part of the "lynch mob" (John on the R fiend page)</s>; "anti-admin activists". When I read such wild talk from Admins (of whatever nationality) - I must wonder why anyone is surprised that some of us are a bit "Admin-wary". [[User:Sarah777|Sarah777]] ([[User talk:Sarah777|talk]]) 04:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::: I don't consider the assertion that there are people involved in this may be "unable or unwilling to adhere to community norms" to be "wild talk". There was, you may remember, an RfAR naming a large number of editors for that very reason. Insults, revert-warring, threats, sock-puppetry and meat-puppetry are all in violation of community norms, and these were all documented. Those editors that continue with this behaviour are, I believe, the ones that will "eventually" be "weeded out". Exactly who, if anyone, this is remains to be determined. The comment was addressing John's concern about disruptive editors taking heart from the R fiend situation. The only thing one should take from that is that it is wrong to misuse tools, anyone who sees this as an endorsement of disruptive tactics will eventually get what's coming to them. |
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::: Regarding the "anti-admin activists", I was referring to Giano, in particular, and a number of his acolytes in general. Giano's self adopted role as advocate-to-the-wronged (in his opinion) [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/IRC/Proposed_decision#Giano|appears to be reaching its inevitable conclusion]]. As righteous as his motives may be, his methods are disruptive. He too appears unable or unwilling to adhere to community norms. |
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::: I don't endorse any reference to a "lynch mob". I think the recent RfC and ArbCom has been a fair process. It shows that admins are not free to use their tools anyway they please, that admins do not "stick together", and that we serve the community and must listen to what the community says. Please don't misunderstand me: I don't believe poor behaviour from other editors in this (and I don't know if there was) in anyway mitigates the misuse of tools. R fiend lost the trust of the community and, rightly, needs to earn it again if he wishes to be an admin. However, if there ''was'' poor behaviour from others, maybe it should be addressed, and we have ways of doing that. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 07:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC) |
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Hi. Concerning adding knockout mouse phenotype data to Gene Wiki articles, I think this is valuable information which enriches the articles. I have however one small quibble, and that is the plug that is made to the KO Mouse Consortium and the Sanger Institute in the text of the article. I think it would be more appropriate to include this attribution in a citation rather than the text of the article.
I think the following recommendation from WP:MEDMOS is relevant: Do not hype a study by listing the names, credentials, institutions, or other "qualifications" of their authors. The text of the article should not needlessly duplicate the names, dates, titles, and other information about the source that you list in the citation.
Again, I think adding the KO phenotype data is great, but where the data came from should not be over hyped. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 21:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Boghog. Thanks for you comments. I did think about this quite a bit and we actually had some extensive discussions, including Wikipedians, about the best way of phrasing things. Let me explain the reasoning. We felt it was important to mention the IKMC inline for each article because it is necessary to explain the standardized nature of the programme. Obviously there are thousands of KO mice kicking around labs and lots of different phenotypic descriptions from different labs. I'm not sure it is valuable or particularly appropriate do describe them all in the Gene Wiki, as there is bound to be conflicting information that will be explained by different penetrance of allele, different backgrounds or different phenotyping assays. But the extremely large cohort that is being produced by this programme is unique in scale - in theory we should have a large proportion of the mouse genome covered in a few years. More importantly they all have standardized construction (in terms of the allele type, targeting and the genetic backgrounds of the animals etc), are all freely available, and most important of all, they all undergo exactly the same phenotyping protocols measured to exactly the same parameters. It is this scale and standardization that make the data useful and appropriate for something like the Gene Wiki. So our reasoning of adding the link to the IKMC was not one of hyping the peole behind the data, but simply so the reader can easily understand the context of why this particular phenotyping report of this particular allele is indeed notable and worth reporting. Rather than describe the nature of the programme in each gene article, we thought pointing to IKMC inline would do the trick.
- With regards to mentioning the producing institute, I tend to agree with you: I'm less convinced that is appropriate. The argument made to me was that because there are a number of centres involved in production and phenotyping (eventually we will include alleles from all of the producing centres, we've just started with Sanger's because I have easier access to the data), there will inevitably be some differences between them - particularly in phenotyping. It will therefore be important for the reader to know which centre any given allele is from. But of course that argument was made by a room of mouse geneticists interested in such minutiae, I doubt the average article reader will care. During these discussions I didn't think that was a particularly big deal so I didn't push the issue (plus I was more interesting in fighting off those people who insisted we should include the details of the allele, LoxP sites, selection cassettes and all!)
- So I agree that it would be perfectly fine to include this info in a citation. The problem now is making all the changes to the >250 articles already created in userspace! I'll start working back through them, but it will take me some time. For the ones already live I need to go back and add another, better citation (once it is published) so I will remove the centre from those at the same time. In the meantime, I'll get the coders to change script that produces the wiki-text automatically on the conclusion of phenotyping, so that the future gene articles omit that information. Does that sound ok? Rockpocket 23:37, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks for your detailed explanation and for your offer to move the attribution to the citation. I occasionally run a bot, so I may be able to help out with making changes to the articles where the KO data has already been added. The International Knockout Mouse Consortium has already KOed a large fraction of mouse genes. Did you intend to add most of these to the Gene Wiki articles? If so, it might be more appropriate to include this data in collapsible section of the {{PBB}} template similar to the GNF RNA expression pattern data (see for example {{PBB}}; while we are at it I think the RNA data should also be collapsed). If you don't mind, I think we should bring up this topic on the Gene Wiki Discussion page to get input from a wider group of Wikipedians. I think there will be strong support for adding this data, but there may be differing opinions as to the best way to present it. In addition, one of our bots might assist you in adding this data to the rest of the Gene Wiki articles. Boghog (talk) 12:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, most of the genes have been KO'd in ES cells, but only a few hundred of them have been made into mice and phenotyped so far. Sanger has about 400, and I believe MRC Harwell and UC Davis have a few hundred each currently in progress. I'd like to include all of them in Gene Wiki articles if possible over the next few years. I'm currently updating articles on the first 250 alleles that have been completed, as we are co-ordinating these into a paper (and we are keen, in the spirit of open access, to simultaneously provide summaries on WP). Actually I originally envisioned incorporating these into that template, but there are some additional issues with that (for example, a proportion of the mouse genes are not 1:1 orthologues with a human gene, e.g. Slc22a21). In the end, we decided to push the first 250 out seperately and then get some community input. So I'm happy to have further discussions and if the community feel this data is appropriate for the human PBB box then that is fine with me. Rockpocket 13:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks for your detailed explanation and for your offer to move the attribution to the citation. I occasionally run a bot, so I may be able to help out with making changes to the articles where the KO data has already been added. The International Knockout Mouse Consortium has already KOed a large fraction of mouse genes. Did you intend to add most of these to the Gene Wiki articles? If so, it might be more appropriate to include this data in collapsible section of the {{PBB}} template similar to the GNF RNA expression pattern data (see for example {{PBB}}; while we are at it I think the RNA data should also be collapsed). If you don't mind, I think we should bring up this topic on the Gene Wiki Discussion page to get input from a wider group of Wikipedians. I think there will be strong support for adding this data, but there may be differing opinions as to the best way to present it. In addition, one of our bots might assist you in adding this data to the rest of the Gene Wiki articles. Boghog (talk) 12:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hedd Wyn
User:Varlaam's slow revert-war on Hedd Wyn continues. One of his blocks (this one) relates to the same article. You first contributed to his talk page here. Please advise if any action should be taken to prevent further disruption. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 08:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- No amount of requests to discuss seem to elicit a response (to the talk page). This is exactly the sort of edit summary for which he was blocked previously. It may be in everyone's interests for a topic ban. What do you think? Daicaregos (talk) 15:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Daicaregos. My apologies for the delay in responding to your message. I've been really snowed under a work recently and have had no time for Wikipedia. I'll try and catch up with the background to this over the weekend and respond then. I don't think it would be fair to comment prior to that. If you need more urgent action taken, I'd suggest dropping a notice at AN/I. Rockpocket 23:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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Have you seen this? Check the end of Wnt's second paragraph. Can you ship me some? :>) Bielle (talk) 06:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- I am prone to worry what someone with that sort of crazy logic might do to a colony of mice. His final sentence is particularly perplexing! Rockpocket 12:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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Insults from User:Murry1975
Hi Rockpocket. I know you are less active these days, but I wondered if you could have a look at User:Murry1975' s recent edits. I have started a general and a specific discussion about whether WP:IMOS should supersede WP:OVERLINK as regards linking Ireland. In both discussions he has repeatedly called me a "dick" in spite of my pointing out that I regard this as a personal attack. More to the point, he has not answered my specific questions on overlinking. Would it be possible for you to have a word with him when you have a chance? I will withdraw from the discussions for now and let other editors have their say. Take care, --John (talk) 10:17, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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Regarding this: not only isn't there a source attached to it, but it's just an announcement of intent. To be quite honest I'd be surprised if Companies House allowed for such a minor change of trading name as "The Rangers Football Club plc" to just "The Rangers Football Club". I really don't think we should be reporting as fact every thing said in a press conference right now, especially given the historical fragility of announcements from the administrators / owners / potential bidders in this case. There's an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Rangers F.C. if you're interested. Cheers! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- It is being widely reported by reliable sources (which I didn't add simply because it was in the lead). For example, the BBC are reporting the new trading name "is" The Rangers Football Club, which is more than a statement of intent. Nonetheless, I take your points and if there is a consensus, or at least a justification, for removal at this time then that is fine. I just don't typically accept reverts of good faith edits without explanation. Rockpocket 12:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- I haven't seen any evidence that the "Sevco" coalition even exists as a company right now, let alone that they've registered a new name. Apologies for the revert, but there's a great deal of attention on this article right now and the change to past tense in particular was getting some significant interest. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:36, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, thanks for tagging this for notability. 5 years later it's still there, and you may want to consider starting a merge discussion. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 09:16, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
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Levineps
Rockpocket, isn't Levineps banned indefinitely from creating new categories? Please see his recent contributions. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 10:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- Seems like tattle telling, this ban was years ago I believe I've changed since then. Didn't realize I was even still banned to be honest. How can this ban go away?--Levineps (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)::
- Levineps, on your user page, there is a rather large list of the sanctions imposed on you. It says "These restrictions were imposed on 31 December 2009. They are indefinite by community consensus, as interpreted by Coffee with minor clarification by Rockpocket. They may be lifted by formal community proposal, or by emailing ArbCom." Seems you've also used the "I forgot I was banned" excuse before; see [2]. My intent here is not to "tattle tell" but to serve the Wikipedia community. I know that you have made a mess of categories in the past, and it appears that you may be headed back in that direction; see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 September 1#Category:Academic publishing companies of the United States. Jweiss11 (talk) 15:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
- My apologies for being late to the party on this - I edit relatively infrequently these days. Seems another admin has dealt with it in the meantime. For what its worth, I suggest when Levineps returns from his most recent block he appeals to the community for the terms of his sanctions to be loosened. Rockpocket 20:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Levineps, on your user page, there is a rather large list of the sanctions imposed on you. It says "These restrictions were imposed on 31 December 2009. They are indefinite by community consensus, as interpreted by Coffee with minor clarification by Rockpocket. They may be lifted by formal community proposal, or by emailing ArbCom." Seems you've also used the "I forgot I was banned" excuse before; see [2]. My intent here is not to "tattle tell" but to serve the Wikipedia community. I know that you have made a mess of categories in the past, and it appears that you may be headed back in that direction; see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 September 1#Category:Academic publishing companies of the United States. Jweiss11 (talk) 15:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Darren. Your name has come up on Jimmy Wales' talk page with regard to your editing of Wellcome Sanger. Editing on a page dealing with one's employer is not prohibited no matter what anyone may say to the contrary. However, it would be a very good idea indeed if you would make clear your relationship to the company on the article's talk page so that your edits can be examined in the light of full information. I don't see a problem, myself, but declaring one's COI is always a best practice. Happy editing. —Tim Davenport, Corvallis, OR, USA /// Carrite (talk) 16:27, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Tim, thanks for bringing this to my intention. I'm pretty comfortable with the fact that I declare my professional affiliation very clearly on my user page and I am sufficiently experienced in editing to know what is appropriate factual content and what is not. If someone has an issue with the content that I add to the WTSI page, then I am very happy to defer to their (or a third opinion) due to potential COI considerations. That has not happened to date. So I just get on with improving the encyclopedia when and wherever I can. Rockpocket 22:19, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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Recently, User:Oriole85 (contribs) has been sporadically popping up on my watchlist for category-related changes. A lot of new users do that, so it wasn't a particularly noteworthy thing for me. But then he kept showing up with a higher frequency, oftentimes making (what I thought to be) completely unnecessary over-categorizations to articles. I've been on Wikipedia long enough to know that User:Levineps (contribs) is one of the most notorious over-categorizers we've ever seen (and has the community sanctions, block records, and bans to show for it). So, I did about two minutes' worth of research and discovered that Oriole85's account was created / his edits began on November 5, 2013. When was the last edit by Levineps? November 4, 2013. That is not a coincidence IMO. I don't have (a) the time right now, nor (b) the motivation to formally open an SPI, but I'm hoping that one of the many people I'm notifying about this does. If you're wondering why you're being pinged about this, it's because I saw where you were one of the people who has left messages on Levineps' talk page at some point regarding his inappropriate editing. So now, in addition to all of the aforementioned issues with Levineps, it looks like a probably sockpuppet to throw into the mix. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:33, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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- Thanks, I've left a comment there. Rockpocket 12:22, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Is there any mouse gene for which we have proof that it does not mutate? Then, given time, would you not expect all these genes to mutate at some point? What, if anything, is the difference between "mutated genes" and "non-mutated genes"? Look at the parent cat and how few articles it contains (FIVE, 2 of them one-line "articles" and 2 of them databases). Look at the articles what they are actually about. In addition, are you going to create categories for "genes mutated in C. elegans"? "Genes mutated in D. melanogaster"? "Genes mutated in Polar Bears"? I really think that this categorization tree needs significant overhaul in order to be useful. --Randykitty (talk) 23:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
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Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi Rockpocket.
A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.
It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.
If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!
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Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.
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- A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
- Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
- Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.
- When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
- Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
- The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.
- The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.
- JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.
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Notification of pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
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Notification of imminent suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in more than one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions will be removed pending your return if you do not return to activity within the next several days. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated should this occur, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e. as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised, that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions, and that you have not been inactive for a three-year period of time). If you remain inactive for a three-year period of time, including the present year you have been inactive, you will need to request reinstatement at WP:RFA. This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. — xaosflux Talk 01:08, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in more than one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions have been removed pending your return. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e. as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised, that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions, and that you have not been inactive for a three-year period of time). If you remain inactive for a three-year period of time, including the present year you have been inactive, you will need to request reinstatement at WP:RFA. This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. — xaosflux Talk 11:58, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Invitation to editathon at ISMB/ECCB 2017
ISCB Wikipedia Competition: call for participation
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8th ISCB Wikipedia Competition: entries open!
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Nomination of David Kramer (singer) for deletion
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