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Hi Ssilvers. Do you happen to have the script of the musical '''play''' ''South Pacific''? On November 24, 2009, [[User:Rrostrom]] changed the ethnicity of de Becque's children to half-'''Melanesian''' (as opposed to "Polynesian"). The sentence remained as he had edited until today, when someone switched it back to Polynesian. I just now changed it back to "half-Melanesian," based on viewing the current Broadway revival being broadcast this week on PBS's "Live from Lincoln Center," in which the children are black-skinned with Afro hair. Do you have the script of the play, so this can be checked form the source? (People get confused by the movie, in which ethnicities are not consistent with the play.) If so, thanks in advance. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 01:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC) |
Hi Ssilvers. Do you happen to have the script of the musical '''play''' ''South Pacific''? On November 24, 2009, [[User:Rrostrom]] changed the ethnicity of de Becque's children to half-'''Melanesian''' (as opposed to "Polynesian"). The sentence remained as he had edited until today, when someone switched it back to Polynesian. I just now changed it back to "half-Melanesian," based on viewing the current Broadway revival being broadcast this week on PBS's "Live from Lincoln Center," in which the children are black-skinned with Afro hair. Do you have the script of the play, so this can be checked form the source? (People get confused by the movie, in which ethnicities are not consistent with the play.) If so, thanks in advance. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 01:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for your response. I'll also see what Rrostrom says. One IMDB user review of the film version complained about supposed inaccurate ethnicities, which also made me wonder. Evidently in the current Broadway revival, Bloody Mary and Liat are supposed to be Polynesian, and Emile's children half-Melanesian (Melanesia is distinct from Polynesia, and the inhabitants are negros rather than Polynesians); Rristrom must have taken his cue from this revival. I just checked Amazon for evidence, however, and one book says the play's script describes them at the outset as "Eurasian." I also searched inside the Amazon copy of Michener's novel, and Emile's children (there are four in the novel) are described as half-Tonkinese (two of them) and half-Polynesian (the other two). Unless Rrostrom can convincingly quote the original script to the contrary, I will change the term to "Eurasian," as quoted from the book ''South Pacific: Paradise Rewritten'', p. 161. Mystery solved! [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) |
:Thanks for your response. I'll also see what Rrostrom says. One IMDB user review of the film version complained about supposed inaccurate ethnicities, which also made me wonder. Evidently in the current Broadway revival, Bloody Mary and Liat are supposed to be Polynesian, and Emile's children half-Melanesian (Melanesia is distinct from Polynesia, and the inhabitants are negros rather than Polynesians); Rristrom must have taken his cue from this revival. I just checked Amazon for evidence, however, and one book says the play's script describes them at the outset as "Eurasian." I also searched inside the Amazon copy of Michener's novel, and Emile's children (there are four in the novel) are described as half-Tonkinese (two of them) and half-Polynesian (the other two). Unless Rrostrom can convincingly quote the original script to the contrary, I will change the term to "Eurasian," as quoted from the book ''South Pacific: Paradise Rewritten'', p. 161. Mystery solved! [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) |
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Misc. Notes from 2006 and 2007
I think it looks great. Keep up the good work. —Khoikhoi 01:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for being helpful. My English music books used Mazeppa, Maria, Andrei, Kochubey (Kochubey is not a Russian, but Tatar name). (meladina 16:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
Thanks for slicing up some of my more grotesquely long sentences in Opera the other day. I'm on a bit of drive to get the article up to GA standard, so thanks for all the help. Cheers, Moreschi 16:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Kashchey the Immortal (opera) - Thanks for the help; I've just finished off the copy-editing. Cheers, Moreschi 19:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very much for the kind words.... I'm very tempted to help out at Opera. In fact my next plan was to rework the French Opera section, which has been chopped off that article. Cheers. --Folantin 08:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for all the info you added to The Magic Show! - Brian Kendig 13:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Boyd Neel - Thank you for your kind words (and the corroborative detail).... It's a pleasure doing business with you, sir! - Tim riley 21:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Camelot (musical) thanks you! Wow, Ssilvers, you are awesome! Thanks so much for such a quick fix on the Camelot article! I will add to it as I can. :) Thanks! Estreya 18:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Tom Eyen - Thank you for cleaning up my mess! I'm speechless - it's so well done! --Eric Eyen 02:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your kind note and for your careful reviews and help at Encyclopædia Britannica; I think it's an article we all can be proud of.... I'm grateful that you corrected that comma error that had been peppering my writing for ages. Looking forward to working with you again in Wikipedia, Willow 10:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the nice welcoming note! I was going to see an amateur production of Princess Ida at MIT last night, so I wanted to learn a little about it. The article was very helpful! I love G&S, but I probably will just do little typo edits here and there as I find them. Thanks again! Purkowitz 14:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your effort and added info with Malfitano. She is a great singer and it was sad to notice that the existing writings about her were too brief. It would be great if we could get some photos of her. I will write to her agent, hopefully they could provide us with photos to be published (with written permission, of course). - Jay 02:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Nice work on the Buddy - The Buddy Holly Story yesterday/today. Concerning the expanded synopisis version that was severely edited a while back - IT WAS MUCH BETTER. Sorry it kept getting cut. It should simply have been re-written to avoid verbatim website quotes. It should not of been deleted, though. I will support you in defending against any attempts to ruin this article again. Smatprt 14:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! :-)Nrswanson 07:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Your work on Michael Mayer (director) - WOW. Thank you! I knew that once people realized this major theatrical figure had no article at all, it'd get fixed quickly, but the early version was so disorganized, and it's lovely to see what you've done with it overnight.
- Diana Fortuna Photo - Thanks for cleaning up the summary :) DraxusD 05:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help cleaning up my edits on Parade - I honestly thought I was alone on this one! Docta247 13:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome :) I'm Chris Angelico, Savoynetter and fairly active but with no particular qualifications or special skills in G&S. A newbie in editing, which is probably obvious to all, unfortunately. -- Rosuav (talk • contribs) 05:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Piano Bar
Hi, Ssilvers, I am Ron Kert from Tampa, FL (wikipedia user-name "ronkert"). Thank You for your additions to the "Piano Bar" article that I submitted. I also am an amateur singer, and a "piano bar junkie". Although I enjoyed "La Boheme" and love most types of music, I sing songs from these genres: "Standards" from the 1920's to 1950's, 50's and 60's Rock'n'Roll, some 70's and 80's light Rock and Rock ballads, Blues, a couple of show tunes, a few Country tunes. I'm currently on one of my bi-annual out-of-state "piano bar" vacations in the DC / northern Virginia area.
Savoyards
Good work. Several of these performers are familiar to me because of the film Topsy Turvy, wihch I've seen at least half a dozen times. They needed to be included in Wikipedia. Charivari 02:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Congratulations! You took this a lot farther than I ever imagined it would go. Marc Shepherd 19:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Golden Legend
Saw your additions and copy edits. Thanks. I had considered adding specific information about the Hyperion release (it is the first full length recording), but wasn't sure it was appropriate. I'll probably be doing some similar work on other compositions by Sullivan. Shsilver 19:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your attention to this article - it helps to have another perspective, particularly one from the musicals / G&S point of view, and not the "HEY MY HIGH SCHOOL DID THAT!" point of view.... Thanks again. QBKooky 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Mountebanks; Major article template, etc.
Thanks for the Song list! Added in character names whilst I was at it. Also, I've done a tweak to Template:Gilbert and Sullivan - That look good to you? Vanished user 23:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Malcolm Sargent
It turned out very well. I didn't know about that 1936 interview. Did you ever hear the old joke about Sargent? Supposedly he gets into a cab. The driver says, "Where to?" Sargent says, "It doesn't matter; they want me everywhere." Marc Shepherd 13:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Early British Musicals
Thanks for the messages. I had only the briefest look after your first, but it all looked like great stuff.... --GuillaumeTell 07:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Savoy opera (and curtain raisers)
Nice work! [Shoemaker's Holiday] 10:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
G&S
Thanks very much - I'm actually planning on writing up a few articles about some of the lesser Savoyards, as well as a couple of early G&S creators that really ought to be here (Frank Thornton, Fred Sullivan, and Selina Dolaro spring to mind). --AlbertHerring 17:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Congrats on getting the article featured. Your hard work was impressive. Best, Moreschi 12:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
First barnstar
- ... and that goes from me too, his recent work on filling in the gaps and eliminating stubs in London theatre is only matched by his patience with my lack of knowledge and his ability to collaborate. Kbthompson 18:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Theatre Articles: Notes of thanks
Gallery of Illustration - Many thanks for your modest but spot-on improvements to the initial entry on the Royal Gallery of Illustration!! Rapotter 03:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Globe, Royalty and St James's Theatres - Gracious me! How much you have improved the presentation. As suggested, I have run up a piece on the Globe, which would benefit from the Ssilvers treatment, had you but world enough and time. Tim riley 10:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
This corner of the Wikipedia site owes such a lot to you. - Tim riley 23:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Congratulations on your work on this article. The images make a big difference as well as noting the stars and the plays. David Lauder 08:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for making the Haymarket Theatre piece look good. ...Tim Riley 10:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't thank you for the addn info on the Empire Theatre. I added a testimonial to your barnstar! But I don't know how these things get decided on, so left it as barnstar + bar. The London theatres have been a joy... Kbthompson 18:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
St Georges Theatre - Belated thanks for that, it almost looks like an article now. I took the liberty of adding a gee-gaw to your front page (a case of I saw this and thought of you, I have to wait another month!). I saw the recent comments at G&S, tough crowd. I think that's a bit harsh for GA, but something that definitely needs fixing for FA. Kbthompson 15:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Court Theatre - Congratulations on your reworking of the Royal Court Theatre. David Lauder 08:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Toye & Norris
Thank you once more for giving my text a wash and brush up. I feel rather guilty: I have all the fun and you do all the work. Well, great will be your reward in heaven. - Tim riley 22:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Nice rewrite! I was hoping that someone would: Previously it seemed to be saying that Sullivan went to Leipzig twice which looked dubious :-D uriel8 (talk) 14:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The Window
Spot on, I'd say.... This was quite a serious gap in the coverage of Sullivan - now, happily, filled. Tim Riley 08:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
You are very kind to take so much trouble, bless you! I'll look into the picture business tomorrow. Tim Riley 19:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- You asked me to take a look at the work that had been done on this, while I was away. I did look when I came back and thought it excellent - then forgot to let you know! (I probably remember more when I make negative comments). Kbthompson 09:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Great article. I added two photos (with fair use rationales, so there will be no problem)...egde 10:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
David Russell Hulme
You have done a lovely job on the article. Jack1956 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for this. -- Kleinzach 23:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Musicals Article Structure
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- Read over, looks good! Much applause! You deserve a cookie - here's one!
- Heck, take two! --omtay38 19:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
You rock!
'nuff said! --omtay38 00:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Yet again a fantastic contribution. Many thanks. Regarding David Russell Hulme, I have a photo somewhere that I took when I sang with him in the 1970s. If I can find it I'll scan it and upload it to the article. Jack1956 21:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Terence Rees and Scott Fishe
I love this... I write 4 sentences on an article Terence Rees and go to bed and as if by magic the next day it's finished! And it's another brilliant article, much better than I could have created. Many thanks. I'll have a look at those articles you mentioned! Jack1956 17:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. You have done another great job by polishing up the Scott Fishe article to such a good standard. I wish I had your expertise. Jack1956 23:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Sullivan mss & George Sheringham
Infinitely obliged! -- Tim riley (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Imperial triple crown jewels
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Your Imperial Majesty, even if these regalia are just stage props, it's nice to be able to hand them to you. May you wear them well. DurovaCharge! 05:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for great job on Oudin.... Jack1956 (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help on Francoeur. Melbrooksfan101 talk 04:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Trial by Jury - Gurneys
- Well done on pursuing this. I have just finished reading the Elliott book which answers all the questions and I aspire to finding some time to work on all the articles but ... Cutler (talk) 09:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I found a photo of Nancy McIntosh and uploaded it. Ther others weren't really of the show. I will search further and upload as appropriate ThanksBroadwaygal (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! I added the image to the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
[Re:congrats] ... and to you both. It was a collaborative effort and without sane people around, I was beginning to chew my leg off... as it was, I got off with a limp. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 09:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Boer War Te Deum/Te Deum Laudamus (Sullivan)
I just started an article on the Boer War Te Deum this morning. It's a rough stub, and I am currently looking for more references. If you have time, could you take a look? Thanks Broadwaygal (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
"The Bob"
Thanks for your input! Typos will be the death of me, just so you know. I absolutely hate the one image available of Marshall, and I'm positive that he'd hate it too; it's the monkey suit. I contacted the Adirondack Museum to see if they can release an image or two under GFDL for me to use. I would love to get a similar pic to what I've seen in my book sources, with him grinning goofily while posing on mountaintops with grimy, exhausted looking guides. So we'll see. :) María (habla conmigo) 20:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Signor Brocolini
Rocked with mirth at reading about the origin of his name! Only one measly correction contributed. Another SSilvers coup. Tim riley (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Can't fault it- another brilliant piece of research and well-written. Jack1956 (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear Ss, I am very pleased to know about Sig. Brocolini, of whom I have never previously heard, but I think I have read somewhere that he was especially admired in a trio from La finta giardiniera with Mme Spinaci and the basso cantante Bruschetta, under the baton of the great Vermicelli. Keep up the good work, Eebahgum (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Welcome back and hello again. Nice job of discovery, and very thorough. And yes, he's a credit to my name, maybe. (Perhaps I need to change mine too. . .) JohnClarknew (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
The star is totally deserved. I have a programme for the 1975 performance of 'Utopia' somewhere, and will check it out, but presume that, as he is on the recording he must have been in the performance. GD I am less sure about. Jack1956 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks again for your help. I think the article looks great now! - certainly better than any other musicals in 2008.... Anyway, thanks again. -- Dave S Light Defender (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!
If I could figure out how to give you a Barnstar (or a bouquet of flowers) I would. Thanks for the help on Bernadette Peters, she's looking good. I'll look at the article again next week, with fresh eyes, to see what other bits and pieces it might need. JeanColumbia (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Amy Evans
Thanks for the splendid overhaul.... -- Drhoehl (talk) 02:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Hair Be-In
Hey ssilvers! .. didn't get a chance to trade contact info last night @ the Hair Be-In. Here's a link to my band's website http://www.gladshot.com/home.htm
Yeston
You've got more stamina than I! Article looks great, I made a few very minor edits, and added external links to articles on a few of his lesser known works.JeanColumbia (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Dolly
Thanks for editing my Hello, Dolly! Act One synopsis. It's so much more concise and well-written now!MarianKroy (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Great Job on Hair!
Hey! Just wanted to say thanks for all the great work! Sorry I couldn't be more help these last couple days. Love all the new stuff you added. Talk to you soon - User:Mblaxill 20:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hey! i sorta like the notability order of it tho don't have a strong opinion either way - thanks and happy NY to yoo too !! Mblaxill (talk) 22:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Shoe: G&S articles/scholarship
Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gilbert_and_Sullivan/Marc_Shepherd's_Gilbert_and_Sullivan_Discography. See: Wikipedia:FCDW/June 26, 2008.
I wonder if it would ever be worth doing an article on G&S scholarship? You know, cover the major discoveries, describe the evolution of the field... or is that too likely to hit problems? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- Aha! I have suggested this before. I think it would be great. It is a difficult job and requires library access. For journals, you may even have to write to the various different G&S societies to get back issues or whatever. I'll help if I can, but I can't go to the library on it. I think that some of the journals have online indexes to their old articles. Maybe Stephen Turnbull and Andrew Crowther can help you. Mitch Gillett might be able to help with GASBAG, and Angie Arnall might be able to help with The Gilbert and Sullivan News. Even more important, is the old Gilbert and Sullivan Journal, which is no longer published. Books are easier, and Ainger's list of references is a good place to start. Also, see this. Crowther's site lists various useful resources. Good luck! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Imperial Napoleonic triple crown
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Gilbert & Sullivan for All
Hi Ssilvers, the article will appear on DYK tomorrow [Tuesday]. This is entirely due to your contribution. Jack1956 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Summer's over
Summer's almost over so back to work-or whatever it is that we all do! Welcome back, I've missed the conversations (so to speak....)JeanColumbia (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Royal Aquarium
Gosh! A splendid article. I had no idea the Royal Aquarium ever existed. I wonder if Whiteley might be better described as a retailer or some such rather than 'of Westbourne Grove'? Tim riley (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Barry Clark; Foggerty's Fairy
Lovely job, as usual. Many thanks. Jack1956 (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- And another fantastic job on Foggerty's Fairy. Absolutely brilliant! Jack1956 (talk) 07:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Good stuff there. The Land Surveyor (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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For your kind efforts to reach a common ground on musical article content, I award you my Musical Theatre Barnstar. Enjoy! Mizu onna sango15Hello! 20:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC) |
Whittington
Thanks for the Barnstar...it is much appreciated. I had a look at Dick Whittingon (and his cat!) but you had done your usual excellent and comprehensive job so that there was little I could find to add. I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year. Jack1956 (talk) 08:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Best Wishes
Thespis
A Boxing Day treat on the front page. Most appropriate! Tim riley (talk) 09:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all the help recently
Your advice is always welcome. Thomprod (talk) 19:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Gosh! I'd never heard of her - and what a lot you've unearthed.... (Many thanks for rescuing me in re the NC pic, by the bye) Tim riley (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
That really is very interesting and genuinely helpful. Many thanksOrdyg (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Keep up the good work; I'm particularly fond of musical theatre too and see you’ve contributed greatly to various articles on the subject! -- Vegan4Life (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for helping out. I know that he did a lot of G & S towards the end of his career... -- kosboot (talk) 03:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Eric Lewis (actor)
Wow! What an article! What could I possibly add? Instead, I've started a new one as an off-shoot of yours, Richard Corney Grain. Jack1956 (talk) 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Lovely job on Richard Corney Grain. Many thanks for your excellent input. Jack1956 (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Gosh! I got more than I bargained for: some top notch stuff there - thank you so much! I've piled Pelion on Ossa by rummaging in the archives of The Observer Tim riley (talk) 12:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
The 50 DYK Medal
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Thank you for your invaluable contributions to the encyclopedia by creating so much great new content. Let this small token remind you that all of your hard work is appreciated by both readers and your fellow editors. Dravecky (talk) 06:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC) |
Fox
Thanks for the compliment - it was you who challenged me to create an article on her (I didn't think there would be that much). I look at your work for inspiration on format, organization, etc. Thanks! -- kosboot (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
RfA?
Is there a reason you've never run for admin? I realize the process is appalling, but you seem eminently qualified and the pain only lasts a week.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
E. H. Sothern
Am mortified at lumbering you with the hard labour on the wrong Mr Sothern! Abject grovel. A jolly good job you've made, too, if I may say so. As no good deed goes unpunished, may I trouble you to look at the changes I've made to the article on Max Adrian. Tim riley (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
This is a very good article. The only suggestion is to move the Analysis section after the synopsis. This isn't a play most readers will be familiar with, and the analysis is difficult to follow unless you already know what happens in the story. Marc Shepherd (talk) 14:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I hate you. The article is so much improved after your changes. Tim riley (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Great additions to Pauline Joran - thanks!
I'm very impressed with the additional info - real improvement, so thanks. Incidentally, a small note - I hope you don't mind, but I corrected back a couple of references to the daughter's name - it's definitely "Paulise" with a S. I think it's been a long running cause of confusion, but Pauline's daughter is definitely Paulise with a S - see "The Art of Dress" by Jane Ashelford and National Trust publications regarding the Paulise de Bush costume collection at Killerton House. (probably easier to get hold of than journals for the Costume Society!) Best regards, Mabalu (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Noël Coward
Article has passed GA review. I have sent thanks to Otto4711 for his thoroughness and help. I need hardly say – but nonetheless do – how grateful I am for the Ssilvers magic touch passim. Now at your service for the Carte clan. Tim riley (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Much touched by your addition to my user page. A pleasure to do business with you, sir. If I knew how I'd add a similar gong to yours. Pray take the will for the deed. Tim riley (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
That's so much better - bless you! Shall look out the additional info you suggest. Have sent a separate communication about a possible NC photograph. Tim riley (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Noel Coward FA
Hi, Thank you for showing me that the poster is for another use. I have only one image concern left as stated on the FAC. Is it possible to get that first press photo of Coward, in dressing gown, on a bed, smoking a cigerette? I believe that is more pertinent to the paragraph next to File:Coward with-cigarette-holder.jpg, seeing how it talks of Coward's consternation at being equated to look like a "Chinese decadent" (which would require imagery!). Thank you for your patience with me on the image issues as well. Jappalang (talk) 06:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations on a successful nomination and on your efforts to get the article's excellent qualities recognised by the powers that be. Jack1956 (talk) 07:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
I second that. I was pleased to work on the article at PR, and am delighted to see its deserved promotion. Brianboulton (talk) 09:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- So awfully fine ... Kbthompson (talk) 13:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Happy to see the desired conclusion. Wonderful article. Finetooth (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not at all. Congratulations! Tony (talk) 14:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
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This is awarded in recognition of your excellent work on Noël Coward. Congratulations on achieving Featured Article status! LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 14:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC) |
Congrats from me, as well! You both did a terrific job. It's always a pleasure working with you, so don't hesitate to let me in on your next project. :) María (habla conmigo) 16:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- If I were to add all the thanks that you deserve, this page would suddenly be several yards longer. Bless you. Tim riley (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for showing all of us how good FAs can be. Please return to FAC. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Braham and Brent
Excellent additions and edits. May your shadow never grow less. Tim riley (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
I've rummaged in the archives and put a lot of stuff in the article, which consequently looks a bit slablike, and would benefit from the Ssilvers touch if you have a few minutes. Tim riley (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Much better - bless you! Tim riley (talk) 16:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
"Boys and Girls Like You and Me" by Rodgers & Hammerstein
The song has an interesting history because it has been "almost been" in several musicals, but was cut before opening. It is also used in some stage versions of Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Cinderella", although it was not in the original 1957 TV production with Julie Andrews.
- The song was originally written for "Oklahoma!" as a duet for Curly and Laurey, but was cut during previews.
- MGM bought the song and used it in the 1944 film "Meet Me in St. Louis" as a duet between Judy Garland and Tom Drake, but the song was cut during previews, and the footage is presumed lost. (I have read that a small fragment of the missing musical number is included in the "Coming Attractions" trailer, but I have not yet verified that.) However, the song was released on the "B" side of a Decca single by Garland (the "A" side was "The Trolley Song"), which is mentioned in Wikipedia under Judy Garland discography.
- MGM again attempted to use it in another musical film, the title of which I can not immediately recall, but it was again cut. I can do some more research on that later.
- In Richard Rodgers' autobiography, I recall when he and Oscar Hammerstein wrote the 1957 TV version of "Cinderella", they used the music as part of the waltz music at the ball, but it was not originally used as an integrated song. I see that on Youtube, in some stage productions of "Cinderella", the King and Queen perform this song in the first palace scene.
- "Boys and Girls Like You and Me" was also included in a 1996 stage version of "State Fair". There is a reference to this in Wikipedia; please see the following link: [1] .
- Frank Sinatra film Thanks! LA Movie Buff (talk) 00:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Fanny Ronalds
That's a lovely new article on Fanny Ronalds. And informative: I'd always assumed (wrongly, it seems) she was in some sense a professional singer because of her association with "The Lost Chord." [snip] -- Arxiloxos (talk) 18:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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For the record, this would replace the second image in Arthur Sullivan, File:Young_Arthur_Sullivan.jpg. As I said, I know I need to work on Pinafore, but this is at least somewhat productive, and I felt up to it, so, better it than nothing. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
No, the current caption appears to be accurate, since Sullivan says in the interview that he was 18 and at Leipzig when the photo was taken. Masters of Contemporary Music would seem to be wrong. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Newman
Hearty thanks as always for your sprucing up of the article. I have also been tinkering with the article on Neville Cardus which if you have a moment, pray peruse. Tim riley (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
A belated thank you
I didn't get a chance to thank you for your outstanding peer review of OWH, so please accept this as a tardy (but still heartfelt!) note of appreciation:
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For Ssilvers, who went above and beyond the typical reviewing standards to help Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. achieve FA-status before his bicentennial. Your thorough dissection and willingness to leave no stone unturned is much appreciated. As the Autocrat himself would say, "People who honestly mean to be true contradict themselves much more rarely than those who try to be 'consistent'." With many thanks, María (habla conmigo) 21:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
I'll happily second this as well. My experience with the Holmes article has revived my faith in the collaborative spirit of this project (which, by the way, was sorely needed). People, like you, who are willing to join the team mentality make it all worthwhile. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Command Performances
What a fantastic picture! Jack1956 (talk) 14:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Yum!
Great timing! I've been feeling abandoned, alone, taken for granted, deserted, and undesserted. LilHelpa (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Ta very much (as we Scousers say)
Louis Cohen (conductor) thanks you for buffing up his article. Tim riley (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC) (per pro)
Thank you
Hey, thank you. I'm glad there's someone on Wikipedia encouraging other people. I do not think I want to write articles though, maybe just be an editor. Thanks again! Tweedle20 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20
- Thaanks =) from me as well . –xenotalk 18:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Re:Articles about singers
Thank you for the visit and helpful comments.... By the way, I've just listened to 3 savoy operas so far and am a bit surprised at knowing of the enthusiastic and well organized WP:G&S project. It looks interesting to me. You're a coordinator of the project? If so, keep up the good work. Best regards.--Caspian blue 01:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
HMS Pinafore
Congratulations on promotion of this article to FA! Well deserved. Xandar 17:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed, well done. –Juliancolton | Talk 23:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed! Is it two down, 12 to go now? --Wehwalt (talk) 23:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually 3 down, 11 to go Thespis (opera), Trial by Jury and Pinafore. But I have a new strategy: I'm planning to bring a bunch of them to GA before doing another FA. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed! Is it two down, 12 to go now? --Wehwalt (talk) 23:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey, congrats to you, as well! I'm also giving FA a long break with the hope of creating and expanding sorely overlooked nature-related articles. Variety is good. See you around GAC. :) María (habla conmigo) 19:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Likewise, congratulations on all that work. You dropped in to my talk page and invited me to participate in the FAC since I had done the GAN. Thanks, and I did keep an eye on progress, but it seemed to have enough contributors that I just let it be. Regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Ruddigore
As the most developed of the articles, it may be worth opening a generalist peer review on it, to try and get some idea of whether there's anything we aren't aware of. What do you think? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- No, I don't think it is ready for a peer review, as we just discussed. Look at Pinafore and go section by section. Are all the sections there and filled out? Plus, it looks like you are forgetting the conversation that we just had above with Wehwalt. He plans to work on it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree, get it in the best shape we can conveniently get it in, put your best foot forward and all that. I have to order a couple of refs. If it helps, I can bump my next planned article and start serious work on this.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- I will probably not get to it until the end of August. I'm distracted by my FAC for United States Senate election in California, 1950 and am slowly working on Nikita Khruschev. I have the suggested books and will work on it as time permits.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Are you going to move ahead with it? I'm sorry, I just have not had time, through travel and whatnot, and don't see myself having the time anytime soon. I'll help where I can, if so.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- No. As I said before, if Shoemaker and you move ahead, I'll look at it when you're done, but I've got other priorities. If I were going to work on a G&S opera article, it would be Gondoliers (since BHT is doing it this year), Mikado or Pirates. Mikado has its 125th anniversary coming up. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
OK. I have all the books. It is just getting the time to deal with it. And Khrushchev has turned into a mammoth project.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Barnstars
You really do deserve them all. Well done! Stikko (talk) 22:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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NYPL
See User:DGG/NYPL -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Moorer
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For an impressive and tireless and extensive 6-day period of major research and writing on Stephen Moorer, way over and above the call of duty. Well done! Softlavender (talk) 07:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC) |
I had set the stage to create the article for Earl Wrightson in the wake of the Lois Hunt article I had just created after her recent death. I click on the link and lo and behold you've already created the article. Keep up the great work! Alansohn (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Congrats!
On Pinafore, scheduled for the main page August 11. --Wehwalt (talk) 00:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations on H.M.S. Pinafore making Featured Article for the Day. It's really nice to see more classical music articles being recognized and gettting such exposure. Jonyungk (talk) 12:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Was just stopping by to say the same thing! Congrats! — MusicMaker5376 15:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
It is above and beyond the call of duty that you should amend the punctuation etc of such an obscure English article. Wikipedia would be the poorer without your eagle eye. Tim riley (talk) 20:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
The Ne'er-do-Weel
Another fantastic job on a G&S related article. I go to bed and as if by magic in the morning this amazing article has sprung up out of all your hard work. Can you think of a DYK? Jack1956 (talk) 09:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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For your significant contribution in expanding The Ne'er-do-Weel I award you this barnstar. Jack1956 (talk) 21:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC) |
BC/EFA
Grazie (that's what is taking my time--studying for my trip); I thought EVERYONE knew what the Flea Market & Gypsy of the Year were! Anyway, I'll be totally gone in mid-October for 16 days, will let you know when I waddle back (pasta! gelato!).JeanColumbia (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words and further improvements.<snip>. Drhoehl (talk) 23:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Carl Rosa Opera Company
I have just clocked how many alterations you have made to links to Carl Rosa/Carl Rosa Opera Company, and am mightily obliged for your noble undertaking of this drudgery. I should have thought of it myself when creating the spin-off article! Bless you. - Tim riley (talk) 11:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Happy to do it. It's something I can do at work in between things. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Possibly. Nonetheless, I'd decorate you with a barnowl or possibly popstar if I knew how. Personally I think the OM would not be excessive. - Tim riley (talk) 15:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
You're both very welcome. I enjoy a good read, especially when it keeps me from worrying about my master's thesis. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
The Fortune Hunter
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For your amazing contribution in expanding The Fortune Hunter I award you this G&S barnstar. Jack1956 (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC) |
- Thanks Ss, that and your kind words are much appreciated. It is always a pleasure to work with you. Jack1956 (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
You persist in shaming me by producing out of your hat Victorian stars I've never heard of. Lottie sounds to have been great fun. I've given her the once-over and amended a few literals. I'll rummage in the Victorian newspaper archives and see if I can find anything of interest to add. - Tim riley (talk) 19:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- Great job on Walter H. Fisher. I suspected he was married to Venne thinking it unlikely there were two Fishers and that she'd married the one in D'Oyly Carte but was trying to find something to substantiate it. Nice work. Jack1956 (talk) 07:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree with you totally, Ssilvers. Always a pleasure to work with you and Tim on these. What amazes me is when I've given up having exhausted all the avenues open to me you find loads more interesting facts! And great to think we are giving them the belated recognition (and dare I say immortality) that they deserve. Maybe I'm just sentimental, but I look at Walter Fisher and Lottie Venne who we have reunited here on Wiki having made the connection between them! Jack1956 (talk) 20:36, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
100th DYK!
Materialscientist (talk) 19:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Congratulations on your 100th DYK! Jack1956 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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It is my pleasure to award you, Ssilvers, this medal, and I hope this is not the last one you'll receive from the project. Materialscientist (talk) 01:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC) |
I can scarcely bring myself to ask you this, but if you could spare a few minutes (which you will not, I fear, find very interesting) a swift once-over of this article would be esteemed a favour. - Tim riley (talk) 18:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yet another good deed for the day! I am indebted. - Tim riley (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
DYKs
Materialscientist (talk) 02:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Materialscientist (talk) 19:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Wikiproject: Did you know? 19:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Materialscientist (talk) 11:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Your comment at my talk page is, naturally, much appreciated. Just to show that no good deed goes unpunished, could you find a few minutes to look at Elizabeth Harwood, which I have just been beefing up? - Tim riley (talk) 20:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year Awadewit (talk) 05:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I have been doing a spot of work on this article. Grateful if you would have a look at it. - Tim riley (talk) 17:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Much obliged for your unwinking editorial eye. I've dealt with most of your points, and will finish putting issue dates in the Recordings section tomorrow. - Tim riley (talk)
DYK for Frederick Hobbs (singer)
Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Trying your patience
I have yet another article on an English musician that I'd be grateful if you'd run your unblinking editorial eye over, viz. John Barbirolli. - Tim riley (talk) 14:56, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
As a token of gratitude
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For your taking the extra trouble to expertly edit Themes in Avatar towards improvement. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 05:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC) |
The Open Boat; Rupert
Hey, thanks for your comments re: "The Open Boat"! I greatly appreciate the feedback, and agree with all of your points on the talk page. I'll try to get to Rupert today or tomorrow. Take care, María (habla conmigo) 14:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar / John Reed article
Thanks much. I appreciate the notice. LilHelpa (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Bluebell in Fairyland
Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for making this a much better article! 4meter4 (talk) 19:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Old Brit images
E.g., File:PinkPyjamaRay.jpg. Can use new tag.
OIWW
Roosevelt Island rag on the separation of the organizations.
- http://www.nyc10044.com/wire/3007/wire3007.pdf (start with page 3)
- http://www.nyc10044.com/wire/3009/wire3009.pdf (start with page 2)
- OIA executive director: Starlenejohnson (talk)
Themes in Avatar recap — Thanks
Hi SSilvers. I have left a note of gratitude on Talk:Themes in Avatar for your tremendous input there. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 00:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Muriel Dickson
Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Many thanks for the rationale and for ce of images and captions. The felling of the hometree is a very good image. Would it be too much to ask of you to help expand the lead as per discussion with DrNegative on Peer review page? You seem to have a very clear idea on how to do it. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I was suprised to find our that Daniel Breaker did not have an article despite being nominated for a Tony and having been in several Bordway shows. I have since created an article for him, but it is very empty. I was hoping you will help me fill it up.--JDDJS (talk) 01:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Jeffrey Skitch
Yet again, I do all I can in an evening and the next morning wake up to a brilliant article. Excellent job! I'll have a look at it today Ss and think of a joint DYK. All the best. Jack1956 (talk) 06:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Amy Brandon Thomas
Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Noel Coward
Hi there! I recently wrote an article on Lunch with Marlene, a play about Noel Coward (which you brought to FAC) and Marlene Dietrich. I wanted to add a link to the play in the Noel Coward article, but there was no See Also section and I didn't want to mess up the thorough Legacy section. If the play is worth mentioning at all (which you may not believe it is), how would you suggest doing it? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Jeffrey Skitch
Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Your barnstar
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As a token of deep gratitude for your state-of-the-art editing of Themes in Avatar that helped it rise to GA status, I present you with this barnstar. Thanks and regards, Cinosaur (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC) |
A thank you from London
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For Ssilvers, whose diligence in advising, supporting, and even (if you please) correcting me, has helped me in more articles than I can name – and today I am in his debt for helping me get Adrian Boult to FA. – Tim riley (talk) 22:12, 20 April 2010 (UTC) |
- Awww, shucks, guys. Thanks for all the bling! -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Appropriate Sources for Critical Reception in Musical Theatre articles
I've found a book that is a collection of theatre reviews for Broadway shows. It's called 'Opening Night on Broadway: A Critical Quotebook of the Golden Era of the Musical Theatre...." Since a lot of the critical reception sections are pretty bare, I thought I might add quotations of the reviews from the book. Does such a book constitute a reliable source? I know it can be difficult to track down newspaper reviews in their original form, and it seems to me that indirect quotes are better than no quotes at all. However, I'd like your opinion since you're a more experienced editor than I. MarianKroy (talk) 02:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, this book is most certainly a WP:RS. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey. I was wondering if you can help me add Categories and fix the refernces and the over all make up of the Loretta Ables Sayre article I created.--JDDJS (talk) 00:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar
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This is for helping me fix the pages I create. JDDJS (talk) 15:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC) |
Straight Up (book)
Greetings, Ssilvers. You are off to such a great start on the article Straight Up (book) that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section.... Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
DYKs
Thanks for this one Victuallers (talk) 00:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Oklahoma! Article Assessment
Hello! Could you take a look at Oklahoma! for me? I've added a critical reception section and done some other miscellaneous edits, and I think it could be moved from C-class to B-class. I'd like to know what you think about it. MarianKroy (talk) 23:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Done -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Greatly obliged for your copy editing of this very long article, on a subject not conspicuously part of the Ssilvers curriculum. I am grateful for your colleaguely help on this. - Tim riley (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Adminship
Do you have any interest in being an administrator? I will nominate you because I think you will be a great one. JDDJS (talk) 21:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer. That's very kind of you, but I do not want to be an administrator. I am interested in content, and so I am happy to let other responsible editors deal with administration. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Delayed, as usual, but I've finally reviewed (and passed) the article. Great work, as usual, the lot of you. María (habla conmigo) 16:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well done, again. - Tim riley (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe the article can be improved to GA level. I'll rewrite the lead this week; however, there are some flaws that I'm unable to fix because I lack sources (I have only Ainger and Bradley). The article needs more referenced info about US productions, more analysis (especially musical one; I have no ideas where to get such), a citation for 1971 D'Oyly Carte Tour cast and probably more cultural impact (is there any?). Oh, and probably more analysis of the image of J. W. Wells in early and modern productions (this article makes the point; the cut second incantation scene proves that Wells was not intended as sympathetic character), but I'm not sure there are any citable sources for that. Do I miss anything else? Any ideas about sources where that can be found? By the way, what does "ce" in edit summary mean? vvvt 00:51, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Derby Gilbert & Sullivan Company
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Love never dies
Hi Ssilvers, ... Loving your work on the article. Think a bit of the background part (namely the second paragraph from bottom) may be better suited to the productions section. Box office figures are (annoyingly) not released for shows in the UK. The general perception is that it is doing well, but not selling out, although obviously there is no source for that. Going to edit the plot synopsis a bit since I saw the show on Tuesday for the 3rd time and there have been some re-workings at the beginning. Also the shows going to be undergoing changes during a 2 week hiatus in November. This could easily be a potential GA in the future. All the best Mark E (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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Integration
You're right, I need sources. I've had limited library access the past few months, but I did check out some more scholarly musical theatre books, notably Mark N. Grant's The Rise and Fall of the Broadway Musical and Ethan Mordden's examinations of each decade of American musical theatre. Both authors concluded that yes, there was a lot of fluffy stuff on Broadway for the first few decades, but there were signs of development in various directions:
On Your Toes (1936) at least placed ballet alongside musical theatre, featuring two lengthy ballets. Kurt Weill's pre-Oklahoma American work included One Touch of Venus, which again utilized a couple ballets that actually illustrated Venus's character and inner conflict (the "Venus in Ozone Heights" ballet). Weill and Moss Hart collaborated on Lady in the Dark, which used psychoanalysis as a means of delving into the mind of successful but indecisive and romantically uncertain Liza Elliot; almost all the music in the show occurs in three extensive dreams that reveal Liza's fears and past experiences. The man for her turns out to be the one who can complete the leitmotif she cannot finish herself (the song is "My Ship", the only song that occurs in "real life"). "Peggy Ann" (1926) was an even earlier use of dreams as a revelation of character, though musical comedy conventions were still included. "Of Thee I Sing" (1931) had a satirical plot tied to an equally biting, yet humorous, score by the Gershwins. Though the characters may be considered caricatures, the score is integrated in a manner not unlike Gilbert and Sullivan. Pal Joey portrayed hard, immoral central characters without sentiment; the non-nightclub numbers do function within the plot.
The authors basically concluded that though Show Boat and Oklahoma! are significant milestones in musical theatre, they didn't spring out of nowhere as the popular (in the sense of appealing to the public) musical theatre books I have read attest. I don't know if their view is a "the moon is made of cheese" kind of thing...if we're going by general consensus, it might be. I found it interesting, though, and was impressed with their scholarship. I don't want to get into a debate, so I'll do some reading in the next few weeks (I'm moving closer to a good library soon) which will hopefully provide solid references and help determine what should be written (which, given that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a research journal, might mean less depth than I've been trying to find). MarianKroy (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Topsy Sinden
Courcelles 12:03, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Pierrot
Please see my "Suggestion" on the Pierrot talk page. Thanks. Beebuk 01:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Question about South Pacific (musical)
Hi Ssilvers. Do you happen to have the script of the musical play South Pacific? On November 24, 2009, User:Rrostrom changed the ethnicity of de Becque's children to half-Melanesian (as opposed to "Polynesian"). The sentence remained as he had edited until today, when someone switched it back to Polynesian. I just now changed it back to "half-Melanesian," based on viewing the current Broadway revival being broadcast this week on PBS's "Live from Lincoln Center," in which the children are black-skinned with Afro hair. Do you have the script of the play, so this can be checked form the source? (People get confused by the movie, in which ethnicities are not consistent with the play.) If so, thanks in advance. Softlavender (talk) 01:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. I'll also see what Rrostrom says. One IMDB user review of the film version complained about supposed inaccurate ethnicities, which also made me wonder. Evidently in the current Broadway revival, Bloody Mary and Liat are supposed to be Polynesian, and Emile's children half-Melanesian (Melanesia is distinct from Polynesia, and the inhabitants are negros rather than Polynesians); Rristrom must have taken his cue from this revival. I just checked Amazon for evidence, however, and one book says the play's script describes them at the outset as "Eurasian." I also searched inside the Amazon copy of Michener's novel, and Emile's children (there are four in the novel) are described as half-Tonkinese (two of them) and half-Polynesian (the other two). Unless Rrostrom can convincingly quote the original script to the contrary, I will change the term to "Eurasian," as quoted from the book South Pacific: Paradise Rewritten, p. 161. Mystery solved! Softlavender (talk)
Message from a friend!
Hi! 99% sure I've found the right person here, do you happen to remember two Englishmen (Martin and James) who you met in Canada whilst skiing earlier this year?
We're both visiting New York on Monday and then travelling around that area for a fortnight.
Unfortunately I don't remember where you live, but if it is near New York or Boston, would you like to meet?
Send an e-mail to gumtreem@gmail.com (just a throwaway spam account, I'll respond with my real address).
Thanks!
Martin
212.169.37.91 (talk) 13:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC)