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Thank you for the additions to the Clement Scott page. However, I have some queries and intend making some amendments - not the least to put the spellings into UK English, as of course is Wikipedia policy when referring to an English writer! I am a little concerned at the additions of the references to Gilbert and Sullivan - much as I love their work - it shifts the balance of his positioning a bit and I haven't anything in his publications or letters which suggest affinity - though logically there ought to have been, given the time he is writing. I think it much more likely that his desire to be a member of the Garrick was because Irving and other actor managers were, rather then Gilbert and Sullivan.
I am particularly intrigued by your attributing 'Now is the Time' to him. In all my research on this, I can find no evidence that he wrote it. I will check my notes on his travels, but the dates on the song all suggest that somebody used the name long after this Clement Scott's death in 1904. I shall be delighted if you can inform me otherwise.
I note that a certain amount of your information comes from the Rochester Library magazine. They were very helpful there when I went through his papers (with the exception of a couple of the middle years when time defeated me) about three years ago. I felt a need to shift the balance slightly in a number of places - though I have no doubt that Scott was selective in the letters that he kept. pjrs
Thanks for your attention to this article - it helps to have another perspective, particularly one from the musicals / G&S point of view, and not the "HEY MY HIGH SCHOOL DID THAT!" point of view. Unfortunatly, I don't know much more about the differences between the 1939 "The Hot Mikado" and the 1995 "Hot Mikado", but I'm hoping my response on the talk page for the article will alleviate some tension as far as the high school productions go. Thanks again. QBKooky 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Question
Hi Ssilvers. I saw your comment at Talk:Mount Ararat. Where exactly would you like the ref to Iolanthe to be worked in? Cheers. —Khoikhoi 04:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, I see you got it to work! Sorry for my late reply, I've been pretty busy. Regards, —Khoikhoi 05:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think it looks great. Keep up the good work. —Khoikhoi 01:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Cock-eyed
Thanks for your addition to the article- I think that may well save it from deletion, as it looks like the source you provided is very relevant!.
- You're welcome. Happy to help! :-) Ssilvers 00:45, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Comic opera
I added the stuff, please check. (meladina 11:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC))
- Thanks for your corrections. There could be more links, and a bibliography is necessary. Yours, (meladina 13:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC))
Piano Bar
Hi, Ssilvers, I am Ron Kert from Tampa, FL (wikipedia user-name "ronkert"). Thank You for your additions to the "Piano Bar" article that I submitted. I also am an amatuer singer, and a "piano bar junkie". Although I enjoyed "La Boheme" and love most types of music, I sing songs from these genres: "Standards" from the 1920's to 1950's, 50's and 60's Rock'n'Roll, some 70's and 80's light Rock and Rock ballads, Blues, a couple of show tunes, a few Country tunes. I'm currently on one of my bi-annual out-of-state "piano bar" vacations in the DC / northern Virginia area.
Savoyards
Good work. Several of these performers are familiar to me because of the film Topsy Turvy, wihch I've seen at least half a dozen times. They needed to be included in Wikipedia. Charivari 02:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Asimov Removal
I'm not clear on why you removed the Asimov book from the G&S page. What is unreliable about it?Shsilver 17:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. Actually found a copy of Isaac's book last week for a relatively reasonable amount. Shsilver 17:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
On the Asimov point, I saw your comment on Shsilver's page, and I agree with all of it. But by that standard, I would delete Ayre, Ffinch, Hibbert, James, and Smith too. I'll do as you suggested above. Marc Shepherd 17:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Project launched
I think we can fairly say that the project is "launched." I've put the {{G&S-project}} tag on all of the article pages that appear to merit them, and the {{G&S-category}} pages. Marc Shepherd 20:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
AfD
Thanks for this info, Marc: For Proposed deletion (for articles whose deletion is expected to be uncontroversial), you put {{subst:prod|reason}} at the top of the article. If no one removes the {{prod}} template within five days, an admin will check to see if the proposed reason is valid, and assuming s/he agrees, will delete the article. If a {{prod}} turns out to be controversial, it can still be deleted using the process described at WP:AFD. Basically, a "talk page" gets set up, and people vote. After about a week, an administrator will delete the article if there is a rough consensus (not necessarily unanimity) that it should be deleted.
Golden Legend
Saw your additions and copy edits. Thanks. I had considered adding specific information about the Hyperion release (it is the first full length recording), but wasn't sure it was appropriate. I'll probably be doing some similar work on other compositions by Sullivan. Shsilver 19:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- Good, that's definitely something that Wikipedia is currently missing. You certainly can cite to Marc's discography and describe notable professional recordings of these works. In the past couple of decades, largely because of the efforts of the Sir Arthur Sullivan Society, Sullivan's serious music has begun to creep out of obscurity. --Ssilvers 19:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Grundy
Immensely flattered to be invited to help with the Grundy piece, but (i) it looks jolly good to me, and (ii) you plainly know at least thirty-seven times more about Grundy than I do. I salute you. Tim riley 20:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Stubs and cats for British musicals
Stub for musicals: {{musical-theat-stub}}
Mountebanks; Major article template, etc.
Thanks for the Song list! Added in character names whilst I was at it. Also, I've done a tweak to Template:Gilbert and Sullivan - That look good to you? Adam Cuerden 23:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Regarding The Hype about Hydrogen
I haven't really read the reviews about the book. So, I'll give my perspective as somewhat of an outsider.
- Would you please take a look at the "Critical Reception" edit war I am having at The Hype about Hydrogen? An editor added the section in order to quote what I think is (1) a biased review, (2) they failed to quote the parts of the review that admitted that Romm is right anyhow, and (3) they failed to cite the bulk of the reviews of the book that are in agreement with it. Any advice? --Ssilvers 04:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Working backwards, with (3), it seems that mentions of positive reviews could simply be added. Also, I think that the negative review that is currently in the article should be scaled back. I see no reason for two full paragraphs of quotes; the main points could probably be summarized.
Regarding your second point ( (2) ), if this admission (of Romm's correctness) was made within this review of the book, I think it should be added.
With respect to your first point, I'm not sure I understand your complaint. The fact that the review is biased shouldn't disqualify its mention in the article. Reviews are by their very nature subjective and contain POV. If there are lies or inaccuracies in the negative review of the book, by all means, mention this (as long as it's not original research). If there is a conflict of interest (such as the reviewer being a member of a lobbying group or something similar), then by all means, this should be included too (with one caveat: there shouldn't be some tortuous path of associations).
Sorry I don't have more time to look over this issue right now. I've looked at your edit summaries and think you have made some good points. I'll try to take a look at it a bit later unless you resolve the issue by then. Ufwuct 00:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Malcolm Sargent
It turned out very well. About the only gap is that his non-G&S recordings are not covered, but I'm sure someone else will get to it. I didn't know about that 1936 interview.
Did you ever hear the old joke about Sargent? Supposedly he gets into a cab. The driver says, "Where to?" Sargent says, "It doesn't matter; they want me everywhere." Marc Shepherd 13:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- Funny! It seems like he had a very volatile life. --Ssilvers 13:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Mazeppa (opera)
Please could you give us an advise?
I prefer: "Mazepa" (so we can move the file Mazeppa (opera) into Mazepa (opera), and anyway, Mazeppa (opera) would be also recognizible as a title after this] About Mariya or Maria, Andrei or Andrey please follow your taste and instinct. Congratulations again! Yours (meladina 15:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
- Please change all "-"s into "–"s. (meladina 15:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
Sorry, I began to hesitate. I've just vizited Google that gave me the following results:
Mazeppa
- 569 000 for Mazeppa.
- 164 000 for Mazepa.
Maria
- 400 000 000 for Maria.
- 1 110 000 for Mariya.
Andrei
- 20 600 000 for Andrei.
- 9 630 000 for Andrey.
Probably more popular names are preferable? What do you think about? Let us to ask somebody else's advice. (meladina 15:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
- Thanks for being helpful. My English music books used Mazeppa, Maria, Andrei, Kochubey (Kochubey is not a Russian, but Tatar name). (meladina 16:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC))
Please leave this notice at the bottom of my talk page
1. I routinely clean out my talk page whenever I no longer need information on it, consistent with Wiki policy. If you wish to keep a copy of something you post here, feel free to copy it to your own page or sandbox.
2. G&S performer bios: David Stone has given me express permission to use the materials from his "Who Was Who" site in creating these Wikipedia articles. I believe that, in any case, the information taken from any one source for use in these bios would constitute fair use, as each bio involves research from several websites in addition to the "Who was Who in the DOC" site and the Ayer book, at a minimum, and where available, I also add information from biographies and other sources. -- Ssilvers 18:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Meh, thanks a bundle, I'm a moron. I should never have forgotten about G+S. Thanks also for slicing up some of my more grotesquely long sentences the other day. I'm on a bit of drive to get the article up to GA standard, so thanks for all the help. Cheers, Moreschi 16:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome! I would like to contribute more to the Opera Project, but I do not wish to suffer Mr. Kleinzach's insults any more. --Ssilvers 16:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
The Zoo
Did you make the edit there that you intended to make? The reference to dislike of the libretto is still there. --Ssilvers 17:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I did. The previous edit said:
- I revised it to:
- Contemporary sources[2] suggest that he may have later decided to suppress the opera due to dislike of the libretto.
I didn't have any issue with the first part of the comment; only the latter. Marc Shepherd 17:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)