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:Well it had that nickname before the estate was built! Infact I am going to create articles for [[Maugheraboy]], [[Cartron]] and [[Cranmore]].--[[User:Vintagekits|Vintagekits]] 18:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC) |
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::Limerick Jail too? <font face="Verdana">[[User:One Night In Hackney|<span style="color:#006600">One Night In Hackney</span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:One Night In Hackney|<span style="color:#006600">303</span>]]''</sub></font> 19:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC) |
::Limerick Jail too? <font face="Verdana">[[User:One Night In Hackney|<span style="color:#006600">One Night In Hackney</span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:One Night In Hackney|<span style="color:#006600">303</span>]]''</sub></font> 19:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Angelo Fusco, Joe Doherty and Laurence McKeown. Pat McGeown should hopefully be bluelinked much later today as well.... One Night In Hackney303 10:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent work. When are you doing Pat?--Vintagekits 10:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- About half way through his article, should be done later today. I've already found a handy image for it on FlickR. One Night In Hackney303 10:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Cracking work I have to say. Need a hand?--Vintagekits 10:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'll be all right I reckon, thanks for the offer. One Night In Hackney303 10:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Look at that bluelink! One Night In Hackney303 22:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- What about his name in gay lick?--Vintagekits 22:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- If I knew it, I'd add it.... One Night In Hackney303 22:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ally will tell ya I'd say - Padraig Mac an Ghabhan. --Vintagekits 23:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Correct, though with a fada! Pádraig Mac an Ghabhann - Alison ❤ 06:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! One Night In Hackney303 16:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Jackie McMullan as well, and a few more articles on the way time permitting.... One Night In Hackney303 09:03, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! One Night In Hackney303 16:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Correct, though with a fada! Pádraig Mac an Ghabhann - Alison ❤ 06:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ally will tell ya I'd say - Padraig Mac an Ghabhan. --Vintagekits 23:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- If I knew it, I'd add it.... One Night In Hackney303 22:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- What about his name in gay lick?--Vintagekits 22:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Look at that bluelink! One Night In Hackney303 22:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- About half way through his article, should be done later today. I've already found a handy image for it on FlickR. One Night In Hackney303 10:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Comments
Please don't make nasty comments while editing. That ip traces to London anyway. Fred Bauder 16:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- My traceroute showed that it went through Embra. Not the first this month either - anyway point taken. regards.--Vintagekits 18:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Michael Gomez
Looking at the history of the editor concerned I am asuming this was vandalism. I assume no one will mind if you confirm my edit here was correct [1]. Giano 19:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, Gomez was born in 1977.--Vintagekits 19:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- 1977 it is then. Giano 19:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- 21st of June 1977 that is!--Vintagekits 20:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done! Giano 20:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- 21st of June 1977 that is!--Vintagekits 20:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- 1977 it is then. Giano 19:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Are these anon edits all correct [2] - I see it nows says "was a boxer" is that correct? Giano 16:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's a sockpuppet of a banned editor anyway, so I've reverted the edits. One Night In Hackney303 21:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- I knew that 216 was our mate Robert.--Vintagekits 00:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Gomez Images
Do you own the copyright to the Gomez images VK? I notice they're from his official website and seem to have been taken by a photographer from http://www.britishboxing.net/, who presumably owns the copyright? Apologies if I'm missing something. Stu ’Bout ye! 08:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- The images were given to me by the photographer who works with the site. I should probably get some more that arnt actually on the website to prove it.--Vintagekits 17:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Vk, you need to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Copyright issues#Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia. Those photographs are published under copyright on Gomez's page, so if they are not released by someone from that page they will be deleted from here as a copyvio. Rockpocket 17:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Stay off my page Rocket. If an admin (except you) wants me to forward them the email where the owner of the phots gives me that picture then I would be happy to provide that.--Vintagekits 17:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure he'll have actually released the copyright to you? Or is it the case that he has given you permission to use them on Wikipedia? If so, the copyright tag you have used is incorrect. Email him, using one of the examples at Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Then follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission, there's a specific email address his reply has to go to. Stu ’Bout ye! 18:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- VK - forward them on to me if you like as I have access to OTRS permissions queue and can get it sorted for you - Alison ❤ 19:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'll do it now.--Vintagekits 19:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Stay off my page Rocket. If an admin (except you) wants me to forward them the email where the owner of the phots gives me that picture then I would be happy to provide that.--Vintagekits 17:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Vk, you need to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Copyright issues#Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia. Those photographs are published under copyright on Gomez's page, so if they are not released by someone from that page they will be deleted from here as a copyvio. Rockpocket 17:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Orthodox?
Ah, now you're asking. I think, like you said, the Orthodox stance article is the better of the two, and we only need one article.
Brain Rodeo has a point that there's likely more can be said about karate and what have you, but it seems like it might as well be all in one place, which means Orthodox stance again. Only if it got too big would there be a reason to split it up. If there are sections on different fighting sports, then I think you can make a redirect so that Orthodox (boxing) goes to the "Boxing" section and Orthodox (karate) to the karate section. I made one for the film at Orthodox Stance (film) and if you click on it, it seems to go to the right bit. So, I agree with you that it's better having this all at the one place.
Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Hope you're well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angusmclellan (talk • contribs) 21:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm grand. Thanks for the reply - I really just wanted reassurance that I wasnt being unreasonable and just backing the "stance" article because I created it. Maybe I will post something on the boxing project page with a link to the discussion of the Talk:Orthodox stance page. Maybe you could copy your response here on that discussion also. regards. --Vintagekits 21:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Lifer?
Hiya Vk. How you holding up? How much longer can they keep you in the cage? I must say your restraint is AWESOME. I know I couldn't do it! Very best as always (Sarah777 21:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC))
- Get with the programme Sarah!! I've been free for a week! Get it!!--Vintagekits 21:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- The champagne don't taste too good no more :( And archive all the evidence please, this page is browser intensive! One Night In Hackney303 21:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Jeez I went through that vast page looking for the release notice!!(Sarah777 22:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC))
- here ya go - Rockpocket was fuming over it but hey thats not my problem.--Vintagekits 22:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Never spotted it was closed; obviously a watchlist of 2,000 isn't big enough. I like this one "Reversion of edits by anonymous IPs do not count as a revert" - Arbcom. That I can work with as certain strands of opinion are very prone to anonymous IP abuse and I'm not just talking about myself:) They know who they are. (Sarah777 22:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC))
- here ya go - Rockpocket was fuming over it but hey thats not my problem.--Vintagekits 22:13, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Jeez I went through that vast page looking for the release notice!!(Sarah777 22:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC))
- The champagne don't taste too good no more :( And archive all the evidence please, this page is browser intensive! One Night In Hackney303 21:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Just for the record, in case you think I'm totally stupid/asleep, some of us have been studiously not noticing certain ... activities ... over the last while. Just so's you know! - Alison ❤ 00:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Why am I doing something that I should or shouldnt be doing?--Vintagekits 01:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Dunno. Maybe she is talking about me? (Sarah777 01:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC))
- Look what I found One Night In Hackney303 01:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Dunno. Maybe she is talking about me? (Sarah777 01:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC))
- Why am I doing something that I should or shouldnt be doing?--Vintagekits 01:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Get with the programme Sarah!! I've been free for a week! Get it!!--Vintagekits 21:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's because the ArbCom hasn't QUITE closed yet, they're still mucking about with the wording for the probation (Yes, there's motions to close but it hasn't formally closed yet).. It's close enough that I can scale back my WP time for the next lil bit. That's what Alison was mentioning, VK, that per the agreement you weren't supposed to be editing elsewhere till it closes.., but I think everyone involved thinks that the ArbCom's been hanging on so long that there's no real harm about enacting your freedom a bit early and not being anal about it. :) SirFozzie 01:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Zackly, Foz. Myself and VK had an agreement re. his unblocking which he'd been very careful to keep until maybe a week or so back. It still stands but he's ignoring it now, which is a pity but there ya go. It's not worth blocking about at this stage & it's not something I'll be doing, though I very much could. He knows where he stands - Alison ❤ 02:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a copy of the post I made to AN as the case clerk:
The above named Arbitration case has closed. The Arbitration Committee decided that [a]ny user who hereafter engages in edit-warring or disruptive editing on these or related articles may be placed on Wikipedia:Probation by any uninvolved administrator. This may include any user who was a party to this case, or any other user after a warning has been given. The Committee also decided to uplift Vintagekits' indefinite block at the same time.
Due to the decisions, you are now no longer community banned. Make this chance count. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 08:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Congratulations, VK! You're officially released :) Now you can go ahead and edit anything you like .... oh, wait! :) - Alison ❤ 10:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I give him a week, anyone taking bets? One Night In Hackney303 11:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Aye, cheers!!--Vintagekits 18:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm assuming good faith, so my bets are on Vk staying out of trouble. I'm not so sure that all those covered in the decision will start out of trouble, and this discussion suggests that some folks may not have fully grasped that The Old Ways are no longer acceptable. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I meant to say: good luck Vk. I really do want this to work for you. ---BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think he's going to be okay and will keep out of trouble. See how things go. I'm certainly not out to block him or anything. However, now that the arb case is over, all the other POV-warriors had better take note of the conditions of probation. And yes, ugh re. that conversation, BHG. It doesn't bode well, does it? - Alison ❤ 15:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I give him a week, anyone taking bets? One Night In Hackney303 11:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmmmm.... One Night In Hackney303 16:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Nice new word there: athiest presumably means the person most closely associated with Athy. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmmmm.... One Night In Hackney303 16:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I have no problems with BC and AD, but some entire cultures do, perhaps they are the "scum" referred to here [3] I don't think VK at his most virulent ever managed to insult a couple of continents in one edit. Giano 21:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Flag of Northern Ireland
Setanta, Padraig, VK: I have protected the above article to prevent another edit-war. Given the ArbCom ruling, this really would not be a a good idea. Use the talk page, please. ELIMINATORJR 00:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure what this has to do with me!--Vintagekits 18:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Freedom....for now!
Vintagekits
4) The indefinite community ban on Vintagekits (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) is lifted and he may edit normally subject to the terms of probation as defined in the enforcement ruling below.
Passed 5-0 at 08:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Congrats; don't blow is carelessly - many of us are walking a tightrope to combat insidious POV which unfortunately seems invisible to much of the Anglophone world. All the more reason to be careful, especially in any conduct that could be interpreted as threatening. Take care - and if I get blocked you can visit me and quote my advice back to me! (Sarah777 02:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC))
- It's great to check my watch list and see your name popping up. --Domer48 15:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Great to see Gomez being improved. You'll be OK. Giano 15:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I object to your allegation that I made a "weasel insertion" with a good faith edit. I replaced the Northern Ireland flag image on that article, which I presumed editors like you would agree with. I am surpised that you are involved in NI flag related editing so soon after your ban was overturned. Please watch your edit summaries, and please assume good faith. Andrwsc 00:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'll make you a deal - I'll watch me edit summaries and you watch your weaseling of the Union Jack into article to represent the occupied six! deal??--Vintagekits 00:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Huh? I'm just trying to make that article consistent. In every case — except for Belfast before my edit — the flag shown was the top-level flag for the sovereign nation. The flag of the Socialist Republic of Serbia was not used for 1978 Belgrade. The flag of Nevada was not used for 1986 Reno. The flag of New South Wales was not used for 1991 Sydney. Why then is it inappropriate for me to change this:
- to this:
- I don't understand your complaint with my edit. Andrwsc 00:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- When it comes to Northern Ireland, flags are a major contentious issue and had a large part to play in the recent ArbCom case, see Northern Ireland flags issue. There's also the matter of flagcruft. The way you have it now, with no flags, is an improvement, IMO - Alison ❤ 00:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know all that. I'm involved in the current mediation, and I've contributed to the "flagcruft" discussion many times. But I thought that the anti-UB folks were in favor of the Union Jack as the only legal flag to represent NI. For example, back in May, I was pestered by those editors into adding the union variant to Template:Country data Northern Ireland so that you could use
{{flag|Northern Ireland|union}}
to renderNorthern Ireland. Therefore, I remain puzzled why my edit (as described above) is problematic. Andrwsc 01:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I understand your frustration. It's often the case, though, that any flag associated in any way with NI is going to be problematic. Best off with none - Alison ❤ 01:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Boxers from Belfast fight under the Irish tricolor - just like I dont object to the Ulster banner being used to denote footballers who play for Northern Ireland and the Northern Ireland football team then the Irish tricolor should be used but boxing articles as they fight on an All Ireland basis and box under the Irish tricolor.--Vintagekits 13:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- This comment is a non sequitur. In that table, the flag was not associated with boxers from Belfast. It was used to identify the location of the 2001 World Amateur Boxing Championships, an event that included boxers from 67 different countries. So let me ask again — what is your objection to using the Union Flag associated with the location of Belfast, similar to the (previous) remainder of that table, where the national flag of each host city was used? Andrwsc 18:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- 1. Because neither flag is the flag of Northern Ireland - its like saying that the swastika is the flag of Germany. 2. The games were awarded to and organised by the AIBA who fight under the Irish tricolor.--Vintagekits 18:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- This comment is a non sequitur. In that table, the flag was not associated with boxers from Belfast. It was used to identify the location of the 2001 World Amateur Boxing Championships, an event that included boxers from 67 different countries. So let me ask again — what is your objection to using the Union Flag associated with the location of Belfast, similar to the (previous) remainder of that table, where the national flag of each host city was used? Andrwsc 18:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Boxers from Belfast fight under the Irish tricolor - just like I dont object to the Ulster banner being used to denote footballers who play for Northern Ireland and the Northern Ireland football team then the Irish tricolor should be used but boxing articles as they fight on an All Ireland basis and box under the Irish tricolor.--Vintagekits 13:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I understand your frustration. It's often the case, though, that any flag associated in any way with NI is going to be problematic. Best off with none - Alison ❤ 01:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know all that. I'm involved in the current mediation, and I've contributed to the "flagcruft" discussion many times. But I thought that the anti-UB folks were in favor of the Union Jack as the only legal flag to represent NI. For example, back in May, I was pestered by those editors into adding the union variant to Template:Country data Northern Ireland so that you could use
- When it comes to Northern Ireland, flags are a major contentious issue and had a large part to play in the recent ArbCom case, see Northern Ireland flags issue. There's also the matter of flagcruft. The way you have it now, with no flags, is an improvement, IMO - Alison ❤ 00:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The obsessed admin
Just a word of clarification, VK. An "involved admin" was clarified as meaning an admin that is involved in the substantial dispute; ie, they were directly involved in the editing of the page in question. Just so's you know - Alison ❤ 01:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Alison, I cant stand that man, he is not welcome here and has no business here - he is half the reason that all this mess started in the first place with his power trip - he is just raging that he didnt get me banned - the guy is obsessed and only comes on here to provoke. He is an "involved admin" - I hate him, he hates me - we couldnt get less involved! Dont worry I wont lose the rag with him, he's not worth it - please just go over to his talk page and tell him stay of me talk page or I will be making a formal complaint.--Vintagekits 01:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think it would be very wise if the pair of you made a point of avoiding each other. I suggest Rockpocket takes VK of his watch list and vice versa. There are many admins and Arbs watching VK so Rockpocket can truly can relax on that score. Giano 02:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- This is exactly what I havew been saying for over a month - its an easy solution and he is obviously just trying to provoke a situation in a hope that I will react.--Vintagekits 10:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Vk, PLEASE stay off Rock's page (even though he isn't objecting). Let's see if we can persuade him to recuse himself from enforcing the Arbcom - but abusing him (or retaliating, whatever) on his page ain't helping you. Let's be cynical for a mo; you think he welcomes you on his page 'cos he likes reading your opinion of him???? T-H-I-N-K.(Sarah777 02:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC))
- I wont be posting there again and wont be replying to his messege here either or his provoking emails.--Vintagekits 10:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think it would be very wise if the pair of you made a point of avoiding each other. I suggest Rockpocket takes VK of his watch list and vice versa. There are many admins and Arbs watching VK so Rockpocket can truly can relax on that score. Giano 02:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Warning
I totally endorse Rockpocket's warning, [4] which was extremely lenient. I think you should have received a block. He is doing a good job of attending to the ArbCom ruling and has every right to post on this page. Kindly stop telling him not to. Kindly stop making personal attacks and accusations against him or I will block you for harassment. Tyrenius 12:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wait a minute Ty, I wasnt even aware that the terms on the probation had been agreed - the first I heard of it was this morning when another editor emailed me and informed me. I will not back away from confronting his twisted and bitter agenda when needed.--Vintagekits 12:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- P.S. he hasnt every right to post here and EVERY time he does it will be immediately deleted.--Vintagekits 13:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest you read the ArbCom ruling very carefully. There's no excuses for not being aware of it. You don't actually own this page, and if any admin (or other editor for that matter) needs to bring something to your attention, then they do have the right to post here. Tyrenius 22:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- P.S. he hasnt every right to post here and EVERY time he does it will be immediately deleted.--Vintagekits 13:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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You have been blocked from editing for violating Wikipedia policy, by personal attacks. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by replying here on your talk page by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}}. You may also email the blocking administrator or any administrator from this list instead, or mail unblock-en-l@mail.wikimedia.org. I warned you above to stop making attacks on User:Rockpocket. You replied and immediately made another one, above, disparaging him. This block is for 24 hours. If you continue to attack him or any other editor, the block will be increased. Note to any reviewing admin: see previous conversation at User_talk:Rockpocket#Get_off_and_stay_off_my_talk_page. Vintagekits is currently under ArbCom probation. This block has been logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/The_Troubles#Log_of_blocks.2C_bans.2C_and_probations Tyrenius 22:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- How is that a personal attack? Am I afforded no rights on this talk page, am I not allowed to try and avoid people who in my opinion come here to undermine and provoke me? This is a farce - there was no problem what so ever until Rockpocket came to this talk page to create one, he has successfully done that and his mission is complete. Why cant I just be left alone by the likes of him to get on with editing?--Vintagekits 22:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS???????????????????????????? - He can tell me not to contact him but I cant ask HIS mate not to contact me or else I am blocked!! Kinda slanted against me dont you think. I have caused no problems whatsoever - Rockpocket has created one.--Vintagekits 22:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- How is that a personal attack? Am I afforded no rights on this talk page, am I not allowed to try and avoid people who in my opinion come here to undermine and provoke me? This is a farce - there was no problem what so ever until Rockpocket came to this talk page to create one, he has successfully done that and his mission is complete. Why cant I just be left alone by the likes of him to get on with editing?--Vintagekits 22:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
{{unblock|this block is simple incredible. I have asked Rockpocket not to post on my talk page in excess of 10 times because I believe as do many others that he only comes here to provoke an incident and to get a reaction from me. I have just survived an Arbcom and want ot stay away from editors with whom I come into conflict. Rockpocket was the main editor that attempt to get me indefinately blocked during the Arbcom for that reason I would prefer not to deal with him because of his agenda to get me blocked. Despite this he has continued on a number of occasions to post of this talk page and to send me emails. All I want is to be left in peace and to edit article (a fact you can see from my edit history). So I go a asked Rockpocket politely to stop posting here and leave me alone, which is not uncommon, infact I am "banned" from a number of editors talkpages infact only today User:John today said not to contact him. It makes no sense, I have not made an personal attack.--Vintagekits 23:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)}}
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- I'm not going to unblock due to my involvement in this whole case but I'd like to state that I do not endorse this latest block. VK has been doing his best to keep away from RP and not get involved. I've been watching VK's edits since the ArbCom ended and he's been fine up 'till now. This block does nothing to prevent disruption and will only serve to inflame an already tense situation - Alison ❤ 23:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Would anybody mind a passing-by outsider, commenting? I thought an editor was allowed to remove anybodies postings on his/her personal page (unless it was an Administrators warnings).GoodDay 00:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Per WP:TALK, anyone can remove pretty-much anything from their talk page, including administrators' warnings; "On your own user talk page, you may remove comments from others, although archiving is generally preferred and removing comments without any reason is generally regarded as uncivil.". In this case, it was an admin's warning but VK is still within his rights to do so - Alison ❤ 00:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- The objection was not to the removal of the warning, but to his abusive language towards Rockpocket. I have posted on AN/I. Tyrenius 22:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Per WP:TALK, anyone can remove pretty-much anything from their talk page, including administrators' warnings; "On your own user talk page, you may remove comments from others, although archiving is generally preferred and removing comments without any reason is generally regarded as uncivil.". In this case, it was an admin's warning but VK is still within his rights to do so - Alison ❤ 00:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Would anybody mind a passing-by outsider, commenting? I thought an editor was allowed to remove anybodies postings on his/her personal page (unless it was an Administrators warnings).GoodDay 00:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I will not act on the unblock request as I was a clerk in the arbitration case, but I am not convinced that this block is necessary. Irrespective of the outcome of this block, I would further urge that administrators who were heavily involved in the earlier disputes, such as Rockpocket, not participate in enforcing the remedies against Vintagekits. This is not meant in any way as a reflection on Rockpocket's administrator actions or impartiality, but a suggestion intended to minimize assertions of unfairness or the appearance of the potential for unfairness. I've posted at ANI requesting that this block be reviewed and will also alert the blocking administrator. Newyorkbrad 00:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- As another admin who keeps an eye on these articles, I concur that unblocking was probably correct in this instance, though VK does need to be really careful in his dealings with other editors. ELIMINATORJR 00:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
VK: To clarify the ruling as I understand it: You're under 1RR limit regarind any article that is related to the Troubles as well as the Ulster banner and British baronets articles. The edits to World Amateur Boxing Championships, even though the article isn't related to the Arbitration case, your edits here and here are related to it. Despite the fact that the decision doesn't exactly clarify edits like this, administrators can say that you're reverting on the grounds related to the ArbCom case. You need to watch out very carefully of what you're reverting. - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 06:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Irish names
Hi, I've stared a discussion on the provision of Irish names in biography articles on the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Gaeilge project page and would appreciate your views on the matter. Beir Bua!--Damac 21:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nah probs, cheers for the invite.--Vintagekits 21:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Patrizio
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- Nice work on Pat. Giano 23:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers, pity it was cut short tonight.--Vintagekits 23:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- He has been waiting to be improved for a long time, he will still be there tomorrow. Giano 23:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose yer right - Forza Patrizio!!--Vintagekits 23:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Seems it's Patrizio's lucky day! There is some good ref info here [5] and [6] babelfish it, or ask me if it comes out gobbledegook, and there is some good background to the problems here [7].I'm a little pressed for time to work on him myself at the moment but ask if you want some advice or term explaining. Giano 11:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose yer right - Forza Patrizio!!--Vintagekits 23:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- He has been waiting to be improved for a long time, he will still be there tomorrow. Giano 23:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers, pity it was cut short tonight.--Vintagekits 23:22, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nice work on Pat. Giano 23:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
UK devolution
I am curious if you created that UK devolution userbox on your userpage, or if you found it elsewhere? Either way, I'd like to put one on my userpage as well. Hell, devolution is just the beginning. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 01:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- I am sure I just robbed it somewhere, I denifately didnt create it. Crack on if ya wanna use it.--Vintagekits 20:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- The "campaign for English independence", as the Troubles is sometimes called :) One Night In Hackney303 20:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Mibbeees a devolve regional government for the saucers.--Vintagekits 20:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- You robbed it from me who got it from {{User:Keithgreer/User Devolution}} of course I had to modify it slightly I didnt like the original that much. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 20:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well, see there, I started a discussion and then forgot about it. Well, I will be stealing that for my own userpage, with thanks! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- You robbed it from me who got it from {{User:Keithgreer/User Devolution}} of course I had to modify it slightly I didnt like the original that much. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 20:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Mibbeees a devolve regional government for the saucers.--Vintagekits 20:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- The "campaign for English independence", as the Troubles is sometimes called :) One Night In Hackney303 20:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Talkpage comments
I have posted above and on ANI regarding the block that occurred today, which I see has been undone. However, I think it would be in the spirit of the arbitration ruling if you were to remove the legend "This is a Rockpocket ... free zone" from the top of your talkpage immediately. Newyorkbrad 02:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- VK, I've removed it. PLEASE, let's take a step back on this one, it's not helpful. Trust me on this? SirFozzie 14:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Both NYB and Fozz are correct on this one VK. It is time for everyone to bury this and move on. Giano 14:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Grand, i'll do that. thanks for the advice.--Vintagekits 21:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, VK. Much Appreciated SirFozzie 22:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Grand, i'll do that. thanks for the advice.--Vintagekits 21:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Both NYB and Fozz are correct on this one VK. It is time for everyone to bury this and move on. Giano 14:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Andy Lee.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Andy Lee.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 12:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, since we had to speedy delete that article because of blatant copyright infringement, might I suggest that you re-create it the "right way"? It would seem to be a perfect article for you to work on! Cheers, Andrwsc 18:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wow - I was just doing it when you sent this. I'll improve it later.--Vintagekits 18:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Mentoring
Hey there VK. As you may have noticed, the whole idea of mentorship came up on ANI again there yesterday. Giano made the suggestion that a mentor might be a good idea and I agree. Not me this time, okay? :) Would you be up to the idea in principle if we worked on trying to get a totally uninvolved, non-Irish admin to work with you on things? I think it might work out well for everyone.
What do you think? - Alison ❤ 18:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Might I suggest non-British as well as non-Irish? Best to avoid any problems, though I've little doubt many, if not all, of our British admins are fair. One Night In Hackney303 18:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I wouldnt say no - maybe someone that doesnt know his (gender non-specific!) sash from his shamrock - clean pair of eyes and all that.--Vintagekits 18:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Geez - it suddenly dawned on me that I have the orangest signature on the planet. LOL!! Ok - I have a few ideas here. Let me work on it and I'll get back to you. ONiH - yeah, good point, too. I know a British admin who'd be awesome here but better give that one a miss - Alison ❤ 18:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest someone in Europe though, I think one of my many faults in attempting to mentor VK was the time difference involved. SirFozzie 18:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yes you do Alyson it looks like a badly fried egg. Lar is my choice but he in in USA but seems to be online a lot, in Britain is Charles Matthews suitable I wonder, I don't know him, but as bodyguards go, he seems suitable. Shall we pounce on him together while he is unsuspecting Giano 19:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I would suggest someone in Europe though, I think one of my many faults in attempting to mentor VK was the time difference involved. SirFozzie 18:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Geez - it suddenly dawned on me that I have the orangest signature on the planet. LOL!! Ok - I have a few ideas here. Let me work on it and I'll get back to you. ONiH - yeah, good point, too. I know a British admin who'd be awesome here but better give that one a miss - Alison ❤ 18:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Returned?
Welcome back a chara! Good to have you back on board. :)GiollaUidir 21:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers bud!--Vintagekits 21:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Martin savage comm.jpg
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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 09:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Anyone know why this image now doesnt comply?--Vintagekits 20:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like it falls under this guideline, VK.. (c) The name of each article in which fair use is claimed for the item, and a separate fair-use rationale for each use of the item, as explained at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. The rationale is presented in clear, plain language, and is relevant to each use. SirFozzie 20:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Anyone know why this image now doesnt comply?--Vintagekits 20:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's the anal bit that means you lead a link to the article it's fair use in. It could use a detailed fair use rationale as well. One Night In Hackney303 20:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- TO be honest I dont understand that - can/will one of you guys please sort it out??--Vintagekits 20:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'll work on this one. Editing now ... - Alison ❤ 20:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- There! How's that look? - Alison ❤ 21:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nice one!--Vintagekits 21:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- There! How's that look? - Alison ❤ 21:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'll work on this one. Editing now ... - Alison ❤ 20:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- TO be honest I dont understand that - can/will one of you guys please sort it out??--Vintagekits 20:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's the anal bit that means you lead a link to the article it's fair use in. It could use a detailed fair use rationale as well. One Night In Hackney303 20:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Its nice for someone to be nice to me! Everyone else has been horrible and removed my contributions. But thanks for your notice. I would be glad to joint it! Princess Pea Face 19:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Your recent edits
Regarding your recent edits to this thread [8] rather than worrying about such topics I suggest you don't comment but keep a list of diffs which you feel relevant to infringements of the ruling of the Arbcom. When you have sufficient to make a cast-iron case then present them on the relevant Arbcom page explaining your findings and why you feel sanctions need to be imposed. Regarding AFDs on baronets if the pages are so dreadful they will be deleted without input from you. I know you have a perfect right to vote on AFDs but please consider that sometimes others misinterpret your views on these subjects. Please do not give them the opportunity to make allegations and snide comments against you. Remember the old adage about giving people enough rope, and a final piece of advice I have been arownd Wikipedia long enough to spot the instant arrival of trouble. I suggests you pick your new friends very carefully.Giano 11:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Your right of course. --Vintagekits 20:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- I always am. Giano 20:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- *coffs* Indeed:-b. Giano, can you poss. email me please on the mentor thing? - Alison ❤ 21:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- If you need me my wiki-mail is working, but I think we have said it all on wiki. This is something VK has to want and agree to before anyone wastes any time on it. Giano 22:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- *coffs* Indeed:-b. Giano, can you poss. email me please on the mentor thing? - Alison ❤ 21:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- I always am. Giano 20:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Your right of course. --Vintagekits 20:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Please don't.
Please don't troll other users, admins or not. Your reputation is not the cleanest and people are looking for excuses to boot you, it might be better not to actually hand it to them on a plate. Guy (Help!) 22:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Guy, who am I trolling? - if I did I certainly didnt mean to. Please explain and I will avoid them. cheers--Vintagekits 22:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, wires crossed. As you were :o) I was sorting out a bit of a mess and hit tab once too often... Guy (Help!) 22:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Grand, you had me worried there for a minute!--Vintagekits 22:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
A silly category name, but the culprit has been caught
You were right, but I have identified the culprit, and I hope that it can be sorted out with a CfR nomination. ;) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
King's Hall
Is there a problem with my move of King's Hall, Belfast? Were you aware that there are other King's Halls with articles on Wikipedia when you created it? I'm at present trying to sort out the links and redirects to them so they go to the correct ones. Any suggestions at improving Wikipedia are welcome. -- MightyWarrior 23:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I was aware of the other article hence the reason I created the disamb page. I am not necessarily disagreeing with the move (especially as it was already a redirect that I created to the original) what I am saying is that you should have discussed it first. Fiiiight!!!--Vintagekits 23:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Vk, Nice article, well done. I especially like the reference to the Cranmore Hotel :oP The.Q(t)(c) 16:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well it had that nickname before the estate was built! Infact I am going to create articles for Maugheraboy, Cartron and Cranmore.--Vintagekits 18:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Limerick Jail too? One Night In Hackney303 19:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- What about Stab City Gaol??--Vintagekits 22:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Limerick Jail too? One Night In Hackney303 19:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your magnanimous message and sorry for the delay in responding. I have no objection to your unblock request, which you are quite entitled to make of course, and, as it happens, was seen as justified by another admin. I hope it has at least served to move matters on and get some clarification. I wish you well for future editing. I don't anticipate involvement in The Troubles in future. Tyrenius 20:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)