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Regarding query
Sorry I must have missed your question, which template talk page was it on.--padraig3uk 23:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
- This one, Template:United Kingdom regions regards--Vintagekits 10:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- I put a reply in the Template talk:United Kingdom regions page, I will try to add more detail later.--padraig3uk 11:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Socks
Probably our friend in New York, I'm 99% certain on the Sarge but less so on the General. One Night In Hackney303 16:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Gerry Storey
Boxrec is wrong on that one, from what I can tell it's got him confused with his son Sammy who was an active amateur boxer in 84 and 86, so makes more sense that it's him. Plus according to this he was 63 in 2005 (although this says he was 70 in 2006), so there's no way he was having his first professional fight in 88 or born in 63. One Night In Hackney303 07:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, don't break the article! One Night In Hackney303 08:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually I think it must be another son of his called Gerry. Sam had a far more glorious career.--Vintagekits 09:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well either way it wasn't him :) One Night In Hackney303 13:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, alright you win! Wot it does highlight however is dat da article contains nutin bout Gerry prior to becoming a trainer, surely he must have had an amatuer career and more than likely a pro career also. --Vintagekits 13:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well the closest I found is him being described as a budding talent in 1948, if you want to try and find amateur records from then be my guest! One Night In Hackney303 13:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, alright you win! Wot it does highlight however is dat da article contains nutin bout Gerry prior to becoming a trainer, surely he must have had an amatuer career and more than likely a pro career also. --Vintagekits 13:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well either way it wasn't him :) One Night In Hackney303 13:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually I think it must be another son of his called Gerry. Sam had a far more glorious career.--Vintagekits 09:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment
Do you recall our mutual friend Bill Tegner? He has returned under a new name, Millbanks. If you happen to see him POV pushing again and/or using talk pages to promote his own personal opinions, please let me know. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 07:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- Will do.--Vintagekits 21:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Bobby Sands Man
His previous talk page and contributions shows he's not going to listen to reason.... One Night In Hackney303 10:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- A Chicago IP address - I'll say no more!--Vintagekits 10:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- That would be a first for you ;) One Night In Hackney303 10:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oi cheeky! I have infact had very little to say with regards the lastest bout of AfD's on my Scotch friends.Vintagekits 10:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, things seem to be going well without involvement from us, so I'm staying clear as well. One Night In Hackney303 10:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oi cheeky! I have infact had very little to say with regards the lastest bout of AfD's on my Scotch friends.Vintagekits 10:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- That would be a first for you ;) One Night In Hackney303 10:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
One Night In Hackney, reason? You are the one that has failed to give any reason for why articles about Irish Republicans should not go by the same standard of articles for everyone else on wikipedia. One Night In Hackney, you are letting your bigotry get in the way of using reason. One Night In Hackney does not base any of his edits on logic, just hatred. Bobby Sands man 03:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Sacked yet?
I'm assuming going on "boychat" must be a sackable offence? One Night In Hackney303 16:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well if I saw that on an employees web log I wouldnt be too impressed!--Vintagekits 16:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- On a completely unrelated matter, just to clarify....you watched that video yet? One Night In Hackney303 16:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- I did - feckin rabble of repribates! Should at school the wee feckers!!! ;)--Vintagekits 16:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- As the description shows, part of it was that they weren't being allowed to go to school! And anyway, your man in the link above doesn't mind starting them young ;) One Night In Hackney303 16:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- I did - feckin rabble of repribates! Should at school the wee feckers!!! ;)--Vintagekits 16:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- On a completely unrelated matter, just to clarify....you watched that video yet? One Night In Hackney303 16:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
The Troubles
There's a stubborn IP POV pusher, and I'm at my limit. Care to oblige? One Night In Hackney303 20:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
WP:IR
Don't put that on people's talk pages please, it adds them to the article category. I'll whip up one that you can use for advertising later. One Night In Hackney303 09:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Right - sorry!--Vintagekits 09:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- No problem, I noticed it the other day and had to edit a load of pages. Something like that would be handy though, I'll do it after the Cup Final. One Night In Hackney303 09:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- But we dont play Dunfirmline until next week!--Vintagekits 09:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- The proper cup final :P One Night In Hackney303 09:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- FFS we play summer football now and that wont be for months!.--Vintagekits 09:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not going to let you bait me! I'll also whip up some sort of welcome template for new members as well, I've seen other projects have something similar and we're sadly lacking one. One Night In Hackney303 09:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- FFS we play summer football now and that wont be for months!.--Vintagekits 09:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- The proper cup final :P One Night In Hackney303 09:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- But we dont play Dunfirmline until next week!--Vintagekits 09:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- No problem, I noticed it the other day and had to edit a load of pages. Something like that would be handy though, I'll do it after the Cup Final. One Night In Hackney303 09:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Happy now? One Night In Hackney303 14:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- You know what, I was gonna do that today - honest ;)! I'll do the Southern for ya!--Vintagekits 14:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'll tart it up more after the second half, if I don't fall asleep.... One Night In Hackney303 15:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
You're being talked about ...
.. on WP:ANI here. It seems User:Kittybrewster has made a complaint about your behaviour but has not seen fit to notify you. Notifying :) - Alison ☺ 16:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- VK is on ANI most days, there's not normally much need to tell him ;) One Night In Hackney303 17:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Sort yourself out
Turncoat eh? One Night In Hackney303 19:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I removed the turncoat reference. Barry aywite in ma book, even if for the good night he gave my ould fella in Loftus Road.--Vintagekits 19:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't know Barry swung that way :/ One Night In Hackney303 19:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Lol!!--Vintagekits 19:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Prison Ships
Can you advise, or preferably comment at the project talkpage? A combat where none should exist is being generated. I've reverted his/her edits once already, a discussion is being refused on the edits being made. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Irish Republicanism#Prison Ships Fluffy999 00:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Ships are apparently "top" priority VK, I'm still laughing now..... One Night In Hackney303 00:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
How about?
The Irish Republicanism WikiProject is a collaboration of editors dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of Irish republicanism, Irish nationalism, and related organizations, peoples, and other topics.
(For more information on WikiProjects, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject and the Guide to WikiProjects). |
Just type {{Wikipedia:WikiProject_Irish_Republicanism/Template:WPIR}} to put it on an editor's talk page. Any suggestions for improvements welcome naturally. One Night In Hackney303 13:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Top class! I'll spam it everywhere! ;)--Vintagekits 15:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'll take a look later. Media player stopped playing sounds for some reason, even though everything else still played sounds. So I decided to install a legal version of Windows, and accidentally selected a wrong installation option so I'm busy recovering most of my hard drive including bookmarks grrr! I can't even get the keyboard working like a normal keyboard either, I just wasted five minutes trying to find the tilde then realised I could click on the button above :( -- One Night In Hackney303 17:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- All gone pear shaped. Any Irish rebel music gratefully received :( One Night In Hackney303 18:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Why not nab - THe Patriot Game?--Vintagekits 18:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- All gone pear shaped. Any Irish rebel music gratefully received :( One Night In Hackney303 18:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'll take a look later. Media player stopped playing sounds for some reason, even though everything else still played sounds. So I decided to install a legal version of Windows, and accidentally selected a wrong installation option so I'm busy recovering most of my hard drive including bookmarks grrr! I can't even get the keyboard working like a normal keyboard either, I just wasted five minutes trying to find the tilde then realised I could click on the button above :( -- One Night In Hackney303 17:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Sean O'Callaghan
I removed the reference to Dr. Tiede Herrema from the article, he was kidnapped in the 70s.--padraig3uk 20:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
User page
Keep an eye on it please, I'm off away for a couple of days and I don't want many repeats of this and my request for temporary protection was declined. Ta. One Night In Hackney303 09:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Bruises
Yeah perhaps, but how big is the dent in your forehead from all that bashing, before you get a result! - Is it worth it? Giano 17:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- For example [1] Is this an encyclopedia or a mad house. Giano 17:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- I know, there are a core of about five editors that all back each other up no matter what the argument or the facts, and they have abused the AfD and editing system for many months now - they is zero objectivity but I am not sure that there is anything that can be done about it.--Vintagekits 17:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oh yes, because we question the notability of architectural gems and leading pressure groups. --Counter-revolutionary 17:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- You comment says it all!!--Vintagekits 18:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oh yes, because we question the notability of architectural gems and leading pressure groups. --Counter-revolutionary 17:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- I know, there are a core of about five editors that all back each other up no matter what the argument or the facts, and they have abused the AfD and editing system for many months now - they is zero objectivity but I am not sure that there is anything that can be done about it.--Vintagekits 17:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
User:84.68.67.13
Is in breach of WP:3RR if that was one of us we would be reported, I put a message on his user talk page, hopefully he will stop now.--padraig3uk 20:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Can you report him, I haven't worked out yet how to.--padraig3uk 20:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Aint got time pal - sure you'll have to learn sometime anyway! ;) --Vintagekits 20:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Blocked
I have blocked you for 48 hours under the no personal attacks policy for this. You really ought to know better by now, having been blocked three times previously for personal attacks, at least twice involving the same target. If you can't behave appropriately towards User:Kittybrewster and his cohorts, you're going to end up with a long term block. | Mr. Darcy talk 02:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- This block is outrageous, that an editor can add God knows how many pages of uncited rubbish drivel and trivia to Wikipedia, refuse to acknowledge flaws in facts until they are almost rammed down his throat is ridiculous. Where were you when Kittybrewster and his friends were inferring Vintagekits was a member of terrorist organizations etc? I think you should apologise to Vintagekits and unblock immediately. Giano 06:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
It seems that I have been blocked for this edit. And that this "More Arbuthnot lies" seems to be the this portion that is being focused on here and here. For the record I was not calling a personal editor a liar. I was stating that the information in this source " Mrs P S-M Arbuthnot “Memories of the Arbuthnots” (1920). George Allen & Unwin Ltd." was lies.
- Reason to unblock - It seems that I have been blocked for this edit. And that this "More Arbuthnot lies" seems to be the this portion that is being focused on here and here. For the record I was not calling a personal editor a liar. I was stating that the information in this source " Mrs P S-M Arbuthnot “Memories of the Arbuthnots” (1920). George Allen & Unwin Ltd." was lies.
- My comment was made of the AfD of the George Bingham Arbuthnot article. The only source that is in that article and its information (or misinformation) has again been proven to be incorrect or misleading. This not the first time yesterday that the information from this source was proven to be incorrect, infact another article which is up for AfD, namely Alexander Arbuthnot (bishop), the same source stated that he and others in the family had their seat at Rockfleet Castle - this was also proven incorrect by User:Giano II. So for the record I am not personally attacking any editor, I am infact attacking the lies (although I probably should have said misinformation as I did later in that edit) that is held within what is after coming underscrutiny an unreliable source (and source that on many occasions is the sole source in an article).--Vintagekits 10:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Further comment, The admin that has blocked me here is Mr. Darcy, he seems to have a particular harse attitude towards me and infact he has blocked me before for what he said was taunting - infact it was a formatting issue and was overturned as can be seen here and more can be seen here for the type of approach and abusive language that Mr. Darcy uses when dealing with me.--Vintagekits 10:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have unblocked. The blocking itself should be warning enough to Vintagekits to mind our policies (if reminder be needed).
There are widespread concerns about the Arbuthnot articles, given the paucity of verifiable information in them. I would not call them "lies" but they have a strong smell of unfiltered family history. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have just seen the comment immediately above. I trust that you need no reminder to, inter alia, remain civil and avoid comments that can be perceived as personal attacks. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I should have said misinformation not lies - I am sure its not deliberate lies just a case over these people being viewed through "Arbuthnot tinted glass" so to speak. In any case, thank you for removing the block.--Vintagekits 10:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- ALoan, I still dont seem to be able to edit. --Vintagekits 10:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I should have said misinformation not lies - I am sure its not deliberate lies just a case over these people being viewed through "Arbuthnot tinted glass" so to speak. In any case, thank you for removing the block.--Vintagekits 10:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Autoblocks
I've removed two autoblocks, but for some reason they still seem to hang around. I suppose that's either database lag, or else they're being recreated because you keep trying to edit. I'll try again. Please don't attempt to edit until I give the ok. (However, do reply here on this page, to show that you're hearing me.) Bishonen | talk 11:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC).
- It's looking OK now, I guess it was lag. Please try to edit and let me know how it goes. Bishonen | talk 11:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC).
- Thanks.--Vintagekits 12:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry - forgot the fscking autoblocks. You would think that a button that says "unblock" would actually do that... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Re-blocked
Sorry, Vintagekits, but I have re-blocked you, as the unblock seems to have been based on the erroneous assumption that I was unavailable for discussion. (You should see the discussion about your actions here.) I've restored the 48-hour block. It doesn't matter what you think of Kittybrewster's edits; you can not continue to talk to other editors in that manner. | Mr. Darcy talk 13:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Nonesense - the reason for the unblock is clear - "10:22, 23 May 2007 ALoan (Talk | contribs) unblocked Vintagekits (contribs) ((a) what kind of "personal attack" is that? (b) perhaps a warning first?) " - not because you were away but buts it was an incorrect block and totally without justification - which seems to be the consensus in every discussion about this!--Vintagekits 13:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- The reason for the block is clear: You have a long history of incivility and personal attacks towards other users, specifically Kittybrewster and Astrotrain. I have no idea why you continue to behave the way you do when multiple admins and editors have indicated to you that it's inappropriate. Incidentally, I really enjoy your claim that I'm biased against you - you were more than happy to stick up for me when I blocked Kittybrewster back in March for using nasty language towards you. | Mr. Darcy talk 13:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- You are totally bang out of order and I hope you get stripped of your admin powers for your persistant abuse. The last time you blocked me you were wrong and I was unblocked and this time you are again wrong. Like I said I was not calling the editor Kittybrewster a liar I was saying the source that was being used in the article we were discussing was lies - and it was proven to be incorrect. You dont seem to be able to make the distrinction between the source and the editor. Please show me exactly were I attacked the editor Kittybrewster. You are a disgrace!--Vintagekits 13:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to unblock you. I must caution you that while it's apparent now that you were commenting on the veracity of the source and not the user, that was not obvious at the time, and since they're one in the same calling the source a liar is effectively the same thing and unnecessary–if the source is incorrect, say so. I urge you to consider an RfC on the Arbuthnot issue, and possibly the IRA as well. Best, Mackensen (talk) 13:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- If there was an ambiguity he should have asked me what I meant and not blocked me! As for the "Arbuthnot issue" - I dont have a problem with Arbuthnot's per se - I have a problem with notability anyway I am happy to engage in any discussion. --Vintagekits 13:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm going to unblock you. I must caution you that while it's apparent now that you were commenting on the veracity of the source and not the user, that was not obvious at the time, and since they're one in the same calling the source a liar is effectively the same thing and unnecessary–if the source is incorrect, say so. I urge you to consider an RfC on the Arbuthnot issue, and possibly the IRA as well. Best, Mackensen (talk) 13:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- You are totally bang out of order and I hope you get stripped of your admin powers for your persistant abuse. The last time you blocked me you were wrong and I was unblocked and this time you are again wrong. Like I said I was not calling the editor Kittybrewster a liar I was saying the source that was being used in the article we were discussing was lies - and it was proven to be incorrect. You dont seem to be able to make the distrinction between the source and the editor. Please show me exactly were I attacked the editor Kittybrewster. You are a disgrace!--Vintagekits 13:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- The reason for the block is clear: You have a long history of incivility and personal attacks towards other users, specifically Kittybrewster and Astrotrain. I have no idea why you continue to behave the way you do when multiple admins and editors have indicated to you that it's inappropriate. Incidentally, I really enjoy your claim that I'm biased against you - you were more than happy to stick up for me when I blocked Kittybrewster back in March for using nasty language towards you. | Mr. Darcy talk 13:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Whatever the outcome of these blocks and unblocks, I strongly urge you to change your behavior regarding user:Kittybrewster. The simplest and best solution would be for you both to disengage from each other, in your case by avoiding dealing with any Arbuthnot-related issues. Those issues are being addressed by other editors so your participation is not required. If you feel you must participate I urge you to avoid making any comments about user:Kittybrewster, and to keep any comments about William Arbuthnot as neutral as possible. You have been blocked for personal attacks several times before and future blocks may be substantially longer or even of indefinite duration. ·:·Will Beback ·:· 22:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree - there are plenty of other useful things to be done, and rubbing each other up the wrong way just gets in the way. -- ALoan (Talk) 22:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- All I will say is that a lot of this has been brought about Kitty himself 1. he choose to write countless stubs about non notable members of his family and he drew other editors attention to his own article through the abuse, vote stacking and canvassing on AfD the he either liked or dislike. Here is one that he liked and here is one he didnt - now if you can tell me that they arnt abusing wiki then I will stop.--Vintagekits 22:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Put the stick down, it's not going to achieve anything. As you must have noticed by now, the Arbuthnots are being dealt with by a group of more experienced editors. All you are doing is carrying on the dispute, when there's no need for it. One Night In Hackney303 22:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
HPA
- I think that question is irrelevant. Wikipedia does not require a register of members' interests and allows for anonymity. --Counter-revolutionary 14:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Its not really irrelevant. I am not asking for your name or anything it is a COI issue that I am interested.--Vintagekits 14:23, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Boxers
Have you ever written an article about someone who couldn't "compete at divisions either side"? ;) One Night In Hackney303 17:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Its my catch all - because as soon as you say somenone was a Middleweight some smart arse points out that he started as a Welterweight and finished up as a fat bloater of a Light heavyweight! ;)--Vintagekits 17:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Have you any info on John McQuade apparently he was also a professional boxer under the name Jack Higgins, but I don't much know else about his boxing career.--padraig3uk 17:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- doubtful--Vintagekits 17:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Have you any info on John McQuade apparently he was also a professional boxer under the name Jack Higgins, but I don't much know else about his boxing career.--padraig3uk 17:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Getting there
All done apart from the images which are difficult, so the project should have its first good article soon. One Night In Hackney303 17:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Nomination
Ah I knew about that. I was planning to post about that later. I don't need it now anyway and it's all safely saved off-Wiki as well so I can just produce the evidence at will whenever it's needed. One Night In Hackney303 17:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
No Problem
You have reason to feel hard done by, and I've been keeping a bit of an eye out for the situation. I just offered ONiH a bit of unsolicited advice (worth every bit you pay for it, of course) that another clash with Kitty's Kin is not in your best interest, and it might be best to ask an AN/ANI admin to keep an eye on the MfD.. the more eyes that see their behavior, the better chance you have of getting the result you want. SirFozzie 23:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
[2].
At one stage I was adding the innocent victims of British Army action. However the general consensus would seem to be that victims are not notable but I personally do not have the stomach to remove memorials to dead British soldiers. Aatomic1 00:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC) PS I do think that Stronge and Dennis Donaldson were shot; possibly even shot dead. Aatomic1 00:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Come again? Are you saying that folk killed by the BA were ruled out by Wiki on the grounds of "non-notability" but that named BA members are regarded as notable? (Sarah777 23:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC))
Easter Rising
What do you reckon to adding this to various articles? One Night In Hackney303 15:40, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Tis kwalite, I say tis kwalite!--Vintagekits 20:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well I can't take all the credit for it, as all I did was nick the hunger strike template and change it.... ;One Night In Hackney303 20:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Latest developments
Interesting! One Night In Hackney303 11:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
It had to be done
Clicky clicky. One Night In Hackney303 20:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Harsh but fair!--Vintagekits 20:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Willie and Danny
Well can you sort this section out then please? Look at the second paragraph, it says "at the time the pair were at the hospital". Then two paragraphs later you finally name the pair and have them arriving at the hospital. Try and put it in some sort of order that makes sense...the other paragraphs aren't great either. First you have Willie being knocked off the bike then being shot, then you start the next paragraph with Willie having just been knocked off. Ideally you want to have Willie being knocked off and the bike going out of control and Danny being thrown to the ground, then deal with what happened next to both of them. One Night In Hackney303 20:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
David Lauder
There is an even tempered discussion which will hopefully settle both your feelings on comments made by David Lauder to you here [3]. It would be nice if the negative commenting between you could stop. Giano 10:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Image:Damaen_Kelly.jpg
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- Cool, sorted!--Vintagekits 12:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Image
What city is Image:Hunger strikers memorial photo.jpg in please? One Night In Hackney303 14:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- So...about that photo? One Night In Hackney303 20:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- Ford's Cross, Silverbridge, Armagh. regards--Vintagekits 12:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Sandyford CC
Reply on the talk page.....(Sarah777 23:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC))\
WP Boxing
How about we kick start it here and avoid all those stupid ip addresses and vandals. Andman8 23:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'd prefer to keep it here to be honest.--Vintagekits 14:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Hurrah ...
... I've been vandalised! Thanks for the clean up. --sony-youthpléigh 23:35, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Interesting
See [4] and [5] I would say this is the same editor trying to avoid 3RR.--padraig3uk 20:50, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Reply - Falklands War
Sorry, I have been away for a while and have only just picked up your message. Being a bear of little brain I can't remember the debate in detail, so I'll have a re-read of the discussion page (it won't be tonight as I am somewhat jet-lagged) and suggest something. Best. LeeG 23:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
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Help
You might be able to help me for a page I am writing User:Giano/Exploding Houses - I cannot remember the name of the country house in Ireland that was completely destroyed in an IRA? attack sometime in the 1970s, any idea what it was called? - "Drumsomething" rings bell but may be wrong - google is no help. Giano 09:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I dont know Giano - COunter-rev might be correct with his answer.--Vintagekits 12:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry, any suggestions welcome though! I just want 2 or 3 important Irish houses one knocked down by its owner and another as a result of troubles and one anywhere that was bombed in eiither of world wars - only condition is that nothing has to remain today. Giano 12:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have a very good book entitled The Lost Houses of Ireland - there are a lot of them, but I cannot see one destroyed in any way which commences with Drum... Also, as Eire was not a participant in World War II I think you may be hard-pressed to find a house which was bombed during that conflict. (Planes from the continent could not reach Ireland in The Great War). Regards, David Lauder 13:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- No, the war-time bombed country house can be anywhere, so long as it was completely demolished - I might change the name of the Irish section to "houses at war" or something corny like that - I'm just trying out some ideas to liven the page up a little - it is finding something a little different to make the page more interesting and readable than what is written elsewhere on the subject. Giano 14:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Are you saying the house had to be bombed by terrorists then? As late as WWII? I've found another book here entitled In Ruins - The Once Great Houses of Ireland. It's a tragedy looking through it. David Lauder 14:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- The British Army had nothing to do with it - if you cant be civil stay off this talk page!
- You are funny VK! I think it's Drumbanagher, David, by Playfair. It was just demolished. I know the first book to which you refer, but don't (yet) have a copy. --Counter-revolutionary 14:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- The British Army had nothing to do with it - if you cant be civil stay off this talk page!
- Are you saying the house had to be bombed by terrorists then? As late as WWII? I've found another book here entitled In Ruins - The Once Great Houses of Ireland. It's a tragedy looking through it. David Lauder 14:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry, any suggestions welcome though! I just want 2 or 3 important Irish houses one knocked down by its owner and another as a result of troubles and one anywhere that was bombed in eiither of world wars - only condition is that nothing has to remain today. Giano 12:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
No, the page is about the destruction of country houses and loss of architecture,not politics the IRA or the British army or even Nazis. There will be a fair selection of all architectural types and all causes of destruction during the 20th century will be explored proportionatly. Most of them (I would guess 98%) were destroyed by their own owners. It would be false to suggest that only the IRA (or similar) were responsible for bombing/burning houses, which is why I'm looking for some that were bombed during World War II, or even possibly World War I. The other option if not enough turn up in that category is to explore the ones so damaged by war time service and requisitioning that they had to be demolished anyway. Thanks all of you for your help - there is no need to edit the page David thank you, I'm a very untidy worker and it is months from being finished, and the finished product will look nothing like that. Please leave any further comments or thoughts you may have on my talk. Thanks Giano 14:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- My comment was not directed at yourself - my comment was directed at Mr. Lauder labelling of the IRA as terrorist - if he does that again he will be removed from this talk page. As long as he is civil and balanced then he will be tolerated.--Vintagekits 14:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- We're trying to move away with all that. Don't take it so seriously when we're off topic. --Counter-revolutionary 14:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I am also trying to move away from that, however, labelling the IRA terrorist is not in the spirit of moving away from anything infact I see it as an attempt to enflame things just as they are calming down.--Vintagekits 14:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- We're trying to move away with all that. Don't take it so seriously when we're off topic. --Counter-revolutionary 14:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
"Low"
If pointing out spelling mistakes is "low" then god help our schoolteachers, proofreaders and editors. I did not use the spelling mistake in any form of ad hominem argument, did I? So what exactly is your problem? The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 23:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'd just rather discuss the meat of an issue rather than pointing out spelling mistakes. You are supposed to discuss other peoples comments not correct them like a schoolteacher.--Vintagekits 23:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Lord Chief Executioner
Check out his quote I've added. Sadly I decided to go for the less controversial one, his other comment was "that unctuous self-righteous fucker". One Night In Hackney303 23:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for welcoming me! I had never met an Irish wikipedian before. At WP:AR we have promoted William Brown (admiral) to Good Article!--Argentini an 01:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
"British whitewash"
Hi! I see you've decided to contribute to WikiProject Argentina. Please try to discuss civilly regarding the name of the Falklands War. By definition, if someone disagrees with something due to how it's presented, it's OK to demand NPOV, but you absolutely have to assume good faith and discuss with Wikipedia policies and guidelines on your side. There's no concerted British-led effort to rid Wikipedia of the word "Malvinas", and suggesting otherwise is only hurting your cause. Maybe the article can do without an NPOV tag for now, since that's mainly when the discussion has been long and undecided and problematic. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 10:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually I am not being uncivil and I am assuming good faith. I have been trying to discuss this issue since January and have been ignored until I put the NPOV tag on it. Not one person is willing to give an explanation as toi why the islands shouldnt also be refered to as the Malvinas and as you can see here, here, here, here (I could go on - now these editors are only removing the alternate name with the word Malvinas in it and not any others despite the fact that the Malvinas one is the ONLY one that is referenced additionally, altough they are willing to reference the referenced material they are not willing to enter into a discussion about it on the talk page. regards--Vintagekits 11:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- As your your suggestion that the tag should only be used "when the discussion has been long and undecided and problematic" I would suggest you read this to see my attempt to resolve the situation here - my attempts have been stonewalled.
Paul McCloskey
Sort the links out ;) One Night In Hackney303 19:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
reply
I'll make sure to do that and thanks for offering, and the same goes for you if I can lol
Divisive userbox
Hi. I note you have the following on your user page at the moment: "The Ulster Banner" - This user opposes the ongoing campaign to remove this sectarian rag from Wikipedia". I wonder if you might consider toning it down? I am not a great fan of flags on Wikipedia as you know but this kind of thing offends people, and seems to offer no advantages in return. Let me know what you think. --Guinnog 23:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- No problem as soon as that flag that offends me is removed from wiki I will then remove the comment you believe may offend others. regards--Vintagekits 23:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- I see this along with some of your edits on the Falklands War as being indicative of a problematic attitude towards editing this project, Vintagekits. Please remember this is a collaborative thing and we must work together on it. It is not a soapbox, and your perceptions of bias may be better addressed than by edit-warring or the display of offensive matter on your user page. --Guinnog 23:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Listen Gunniog, just because you have different views to me, you made that clear on the strawpoll on the Northern Ireland page - you were in the minority there so you should accept that, that does not give you the right to come on here a throw unfounded accusations around. I am discussing the issue on the Falklands page (like i have been trying to do since January) so do not accuse me of edit warring - your bang out of order.--Vintagekits 23:21, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- I see this along with some of your edits on the Falklands War as being indicative of a problematic attitude towards editing this project, Vintagekits. Please remember this is a collaborative thing and we must work together on it. It is not a soapbox, and your perceptions of bias may be better addressed than by edit-warring or the display of offensive matter on your user page. --Guinnog 23:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the user box per [6]. It is obviously causing offence and likely to do so to many more users. As there is plenty of confrontation going on nowadays, I would have thought you would have the good sense to tone things down, not add more provocation. Tyrenius 12:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- How about removing it from all the articles and templates where it's being used incorrectly and causing offence as well then? One Night In Hackney303 12:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- You are able to do that yourself if you think it's the right thing to do. Tyrenius 14:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- As you're well aware, Astrotrain and Jonto (amongst others) are happy to revert that change until the cows come home. One Night In Hackney303 14:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I haven't been following it. There is WP:DR. The matter can be taken through various stages all the way to ArbCom if necessary (as you're well aware). Please don't adopt such a negative tone to me because of disputes with others. It's very disagreeable. Tyrenius 14:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't intend it to be negative sorry. You banned Astrotrain from editing various templates for that specific reason if you recall? One Night In Hackney303 14:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I do recall the ban, but I've forgotten what article it related to. It was over the mode of editing, not content as such, but it seems then that I have already acted in the area you request me to. However, that certainly lends weight to any case you wish to further. Creating provocative user boxes is not the way to achieve anything (something you might like to consider). It's petty. I'm sure you know all this already. These kind of conversations really are a waste of time. Better to edit something worthwhile. Tyrenius 14:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- These kind of conversations really are a waste of time. Better to edit something worthwhile - indeed, I'm just in the middle of about 80 things right now so aside from some minor tinkering I'm not doing much editing until later. There was a lengthy discussion here as well as at Talk:Northern Ireland about the use of that flag, and in what context it should be used. Although I agree it should only be used in certain circumstances, I don't have the time or energy to get involved in a dispute over it, as it's just non-stop edit wars and short of an arbcom ruling I don't see it being settled any time soon. One Night In Hackney303 14:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Patience is often a good way to sort out problems. Tyrenius 03:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- These kind of conversations really are a waste of time. Better to edit something worthwhile - indeed, I'm just in the middle of about 80 things right now so aside from some minor tinkering I'm not doing much editing until later. There was a lengthy discussion here as well as at Talk:Northern Ireland about the use of that flag, and in what context it should be used. Although I agree it should only be used in certain circumstances, I don't have the time or energy to get involved in a dispute over it, as it's just non-stop edit wars and short of an arbcom ruling I don't see it being settled any time soon. One Night In Hackney303 14:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I do recall the ban, but I've forgotten what article it related to. It was over the mode of editing, not content as such, but it seems then that I have already acted in the area you request me to. However, that certainly lends weight to any case you wish to further. Creating provocative user boxes is not the way to achieve anything (something you might like to consider). It's petty. I'm sure you know all this already. These kind of conversations really are a waste of time. Better to edit something worthwhile. Tyrenius 14:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't intend it to be negative sorry. You banned Astrotrain from editing various templates for that specific reason if you recall? One Night In Hackney303 14:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I haven't been following it. There is WP:DR. The matter can be taken through various stages all the way to ArbCom if necessary (as you're well aware). Please don't adopt such a negative tone to me because of disputes with others. It's very disagreeable. Tyrenius 14:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- As you're well aware, Astrotrain and Jonto (amongst others) are happy to revert that change until the cows come home. One Night In Hackney303 14:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- You are able to do that yourself if you think it's the right thing to do. Tyrenius 14:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Antoine Mac Giolla Bhrighde
You got a citation for what I've just tagged please? It's not in Moloney. Ta. One Night In Hackney303 23:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like a mix of Tirghra and "The Sas inIreland" by Ratmond Murray.--Vintagekits 23:24, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's not in Tírghrá, and I don't have a copy of Murray and it ain't on Amazon or Google books free preview. One Night In Hackney303 23:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- It must by Murray then but I know Tirghra mentions his career in the regulars. I will fish it out tommorrow.--Vintagekits 23:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's not in Tírghrá, and I don't have a copy of Murray and it ain't on Amazon or Google books free preview. One Night In Hackney303 23:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Malvinas
Man, I really think you are not getting anyway with that aproach to the Falkland/Malvinas thing. I strongly suggest you discuss things in the talk page before actually making any changes to the page. I also don't think focusing on the name is that important; the article is definitelly biased, but the naming is no the most important thing. Cheers, --Mariano(t/c) 00:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agree. As a neutal party to this disput, I need to ask you, Vintagekits, to tone things down. Shouting and the other comments you're making in your edit summaries are inappropriate. The lead paragraph had been stable for quite some time until you changed it without discussion, then accused others of edit warring when they tried to put it back. That seems a bit unfair. When a subject is this sensitive, it is really vital that you propose the new text on the talk page first, discuss it, be willing to bend a little and have references for what you do. I'm remaining neutral in this, and I have restored the stable version. I strongly ask you to please respect that version and my neutrality until you and the other editors can come to a consensus as to what the new wording is going to be. Discuss first, be civil, be respectful. A war was fought over the islands, we don't need a war fought over the article. AKRadecki 02:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Proposal: Variants of the abolished NI Flag in Template:Country data Northern Ireland
Hi, you might want to voice your opinion in a proposal I made in Template talk:Country data Northern Ireland#Request for edit. As the discussion has been going on and the page is quite cluttered, here my proposal in short:
- Inclusion of variants in the Template:Country data Northern Ireland as follows:
- | flag alias-cgf = Image:Flag of Northern Ireland.svg still used by the CGF (Commonwealth Games Federation)
- | flag alias-patrick = Image:Saint Patrick's flag for Northern Ireland.svg
- | flag alias-map = Image:Alliance ni flag.png File:Alliance ni flag.png, which I find aesthetically more satisfying than
- | flag alias-union = Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg as the only official flag of NI
The defenders of the abolished flag argue that this flag is still used in context with the Commonwealth Games. I think that the inclusions of variants is the first practical step in discontinuing the use of the abolished flag in articles about biographies and international organisations (like the european parties). AFAIK, a map tag is already in use in articles about NI geography; this map symbol was never intended to be used as an icon, and I think the usage of Image:Alliance ni flag.png looks better.
I would welcome your input to this debate greatly.
Kind regards, Dingo 05:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC) (currently anonymous)
Userbox
I've just added a rather fetching new one you might want too, seventh one down ;) One Night In Hackney303 22:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Your robbed that off Southie didnt ya.--Vintagekits 22:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- I resemble that accusation! One Night In Hackney303 22:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- I reincarnate it also.--Vintagekits 22:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Didn't you nick the aforementioned sectarian rag userbox anyway? ;) One Night In Hackney303 22:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- It was an homage!--Vintagekits 22:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Typical Irishman, you'll be quoting me a price for a new drive next.... One Night In Hackney303 22:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Racialiseristic! Lucky heather!?--Vintagekits 22:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Typical Irishman, you'll be quoting me a price for a new drive next.... One Night In Hackney303 22:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- It was an homage!--Vintagekits 22:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Didn't you nick the aforementioned sectarian rag userbox anyway? ;) One Night In Hackney303 22:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- I reincarnate it also.--Vintagekits 22:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- I resemble that accusation! One Night In Hackney303 22:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Henry Wharton
Are you planning to do an article on Yorkshire's favourite fighting Irish gypsy any time soon? If not, I might. One Night In Hackney303 21:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- I am sure he is redlinked in one of my articles - but no I aint got any plans for the York tinker!--Vintagekits 21:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'll have a quick stab at him in the next couple of days, once this is finished. One Night In Hackney303 21:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- I noticed you were doin something on Paul. Whats the latest wit hthe filming that they were doing about him? Also in the Wharton article make sure you dont use the term "or division either side" or else you will be hearing from my little Kitty!--Vintagekits 21:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Aye, almost finished. Just need to fill in the stuff before and after the split with Thompson, and some stuff between 94 and 96. Plus if I get his latest book I can probably expand his post release stuff better. Not sure what's happening with the film, what generally happens is they get announced as a possibility, then get tied down in finding finance and pre-production for what seems like an eternity. One Night In Hackney303 21:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Did ye see what else I was up to? One Night In Hackney303 22:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, what?--Vintagekits 22:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Link? One Night In Hackney303 22:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Handing out meaningless awards amongest themselves without doing anything to deserve it - and then theres the Barnstars issue aswell!
- Sounds a bit like the soggy biscuit loving aristoracy in general really! One Night In Hackney303 22:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Handing out meaningless awards amongest themselves without doing anything to deserve it - and then theres the Barnstars issue aswell!
- Link? One Night In Hackney303 22:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, what?--Vintagekits 22:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Did ye see what else I was up to? One Night In Hackney303 22:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- Aye, almost finished. Just need to fill in the stuff before and after the split with Thompson, and some stuff between 94 and 96. Plus if I get his latest book I can probably expand his post release stuff better. Not sure what's happening with the film, what generally happens is they get announced as a possibility, then get tied down in finding finance and pre-production for what seems like an eternity. One Night In Hackney303 21:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- I noticed you were doin something on Paul. Whats the latest wit hthe filming that they were doing about him? Also in the Wharton article make sure you dont use the term "or division either side" or else you will be hearing from my little Kitty!--Vintagekits 21:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'll have a quick stab at him in the next couple of days, once this is finished. One Night In Hackney303 21:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I like!
That raised a smile. I wish some people would improve articles instead of arguing over minor points though :( One Night In Hackney303 11:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Now thats what I call insight!--Vintagekits 11:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Line of the day - Wikipedia is not a reliable or objective source, and its procedures for verification of facts and prevention of deliberate inaccuracies are inadequate. For reliable information, please consult Who's Who or Debrett's Peerage! One Night In Hackney303 19:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Check the history
I reverted at 9:16, same time as your comment. Never saw it. One Night In Hackney303 21:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Cool, Anyway I was not just talkin about meself either. You shouldnt just ignore Paudge's comment either - he's trying to talk it out.--Vintagekits 21:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, he wasn't. Fuck him, he contributes hardly anything except edit warring. If people want to be dicks I can find plenty more things to do with my time. One Night In Hackney303 21:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Mountain out of a mole hill my man.--Vintagekits 21:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Nah, simple case of lack of respect. Check his recent comments. One Night In Hackney303 21:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say communication breakdown rather than lack of respect. His names is Charlie, granted its OR but only very marginally. Anyway - thats that and all that. Lets solve the issue and then we can have hugs all round.--Vintagekits 21:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- You're missing the bigger picture. There's a fecking huge expand template at the top of the page isn't there? So why has he wasted two days arguing over a name and providing quotes from books that mention Northern Command? Haven't you noticed that the information could have been added to the article? If people want to fanny about arguing over things that don't matter when there's far more important things that need doing all power to them, I've had enough of it. One Night In Hackney303 21:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Yer not wrong but I think the original focus was on correcting the name - but your right his efforts and energy could be better deployed in more constructive manners/matters.--Vintagekits 21:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Firstly I haven't disrepected you, if that the impression you got then it was never intended, I corrected the name and you reverted it and called it WP:OR, I provided sources to prove that Tim Pat Coogan was wrong in this, yet you still reverted the edits I made, I have other info that could be used to expand the article, but what is the point in me adding this if your going to continue to revert every edit that disputes your source. The last link that I put on your talk page proves without doubt that Coogan is wrong I added the link into the article talk page as well. So can we forget all this nonsense.--padraig3uk 21:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- That and that (and a couple of others) are OR. I checked the book remember, all it did was confirm there was someone called Charlie, not that it was the person being referred to in the article. And rather than wait until a source that was acceptable to me was provided, you persisted in edit warring over it. In case you hadn't noticed there are slightly more important things to do than correct whether someone's name is Charles or Charlie, or whether a flag is on a template or not. If you want to waste time that's up to you, but please don't waste any more of mine. One Night In Hackney303 21:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- You're missing the bigger picture. There's a fecking huge expand template at the top of the page isn't there? So why has he wasted two days arguing over a name and providing quotes from books that mention Northern Command? Haven't you noticed that the information could have been added to the article? If people want to fanny about arguing over things that don't matter when there's far more important things that need doing all power to them, I've had enough of it. One Night In Hackney303 21:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- I'd say communication breakdown rather than lack of respect. His names is Charlie, granted its OR but only very marginally. Anyway - thats that and all that. Lets solve the issue and then we can have hugs all round.--Vintagekits 21:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Nah, simple case of lack of respect. Check his recent comments. One Night In Hackney303 21:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Mountain out of a mole hill my man.--Vintagekits 21:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- No, he wasn't. Fuck him, he contributes hardly anything except edit warring. If people want to be dicks I can find plenty more things to do with my time. One Night In Hackney303 21:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
You spelt his surname as MacGlade rather then McGlade which makes a big difference, that is what I edited, yet you reverted it, I also pointed out he was known as Charlie rather then charles.--padraig3uk 22:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- That would be because the source spells it "MacGlade". Shame on me for following the source eh? One Night In Hackney303 22:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Do you now accept your source is wrong.--padraig3uk 22:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Do you accept you've wasted two days of your time and mine over something trivial? One Night In Hackney303 22:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- The answer to both is yes!--Vintagekits 22:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Do you accept you've wasted two days of your time and mine over something trivial? One Night In Hackney303 22:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- Do you now accept your source is wrong.--padraig3uk 22:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I see ONIH has now deleted the article and turned it into a redirect page.--padraig3uk 16:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Broadwater Farm
(Crossposted to assorted "people I've run into and whose opinions I respect") I realise it's totally outside your field, but if you get the chance could you take a look at the article on Broadwater Farm I've recently created? I do think it deserves it's own article - yes, it might be most famous for events that happened 22 years ago, but having it as a redirect to Broadwater Farm riot seems to me as ludicrous as redirecting Germany to World War II or Northern Ireland to IRA. However, now I've set up incoming links it's likely to be a beacon for POV-pushing, so I'd like to get opinions on (a) what a NPOV will be on something like this where the two POVs are likely to be diametric opposites, (b) whether you think it can/will ever be stable (and whether it's worth trying to keep stable) and (c) how much of a focus ought to be on the riots as opposed to the place itself. If any of you feel the urge I'd also appreciate anyone who feels able/willing putting it on their watchlists, as I suspect it's going to be heavily vandalised & spammed — iridescenti (talk to me!) 00:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
WP:IR prep pages
Where are they ?.--padraig3uk 15:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Canvassing
He posted there knowing very well it would skew the afd away from being a true representation of the community's views and result in a flood of votes to keep which is exactly what it has done. If there was an anti-Peerage or anti-Non notable cruft Wikiproject with as many members maybe we could say it has been balanced out but currently I would say that the afd will not represent community consensus (see also discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#What_to_do_if_an_article_has_been_AfD.27d.2C_but_major_contribs.2Fwikiprojects_were_not_notified). Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 16:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Regarding my talk page
Thanks for reverting the vandalism, it is greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work around Wikipedia! :) FirefoxRocks 18:22, 9 June 2007 (UTC)