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*'''Delete''' - categorizing on a negative is usually not done, is it? [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 17:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC) |
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**Correct. I recall this being discussed at one point and there are issues with a better name. If anyone has a suggestion for a name that is not a negative and does not add NPOV concerns, jump in. I think this is one of the exceptions to the rule. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian|talk]]) 19:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 19:20, 26 February 2009
February 26
NEW NOMINATIONS
Beauty pageant contestants
- Category:Miss United Kingdom contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Turkey - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Northern Ireland contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Scotland - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss International contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Ireland contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Nepal Contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Switzerland contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Sweden contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Pakistani beauty pageant contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Mexican beauty pageant contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Nuestra Belleza Mexico contestants - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete all - per consensus and precedent at the discussion of the American contestants CFD. Each of these is for contestants rather than winners and there is no indication that the contestant sub-cats are capturing the winners of "feeder" pageants the way that the American "delegates" categories are. A few are also small categories with little or no growth potential. There are some members of Category:Beauty pageant contestants that are not included in any of the nominations on this page. That's because I'm unsure if they are capturing "feeder" pageant winners or are standalones. I'll do a little research and if they are standalones I'll nominate them later. Otto4711 (talk) 16:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - I am in sympathy with the nom. However these are rather randomly organised and so deletion might cause unexpected problems - eg Category:XXX Contestants usually includes Category:XXX winners, as one might expect, but the UK ones are otherwise, and the Miss Sweden one has winners at the top level and mere contestants are a subcat. Sigh. Occuli (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I realize that the organization of this category structure is a mess. If these all get deleted then it's going to be a question of sorting through the debris. Otto4711 (talk) 17:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I just checked through the nominated categories and any sub-cat for winners is also parented in Category:Beauty pageant winners so none of the subcats will be lost. Otto4711 (talk) 18:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Miss Vietnam
- Propose renaming Category:Miss Vietnam to Category:Miss Vietnam winners
- Nominator's rationale: Rename- to clarify that this is for winners of the pageant. Otto4711 (talk) 16:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Chinese pageant contestants
- Category:Miss Hong Kong contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Miss Chinese International contestants - Template:Lc1
- Category:Chinese beauty pageant contestants - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete - per consensus and precedent established by discussing the similar American contestant category, merely being a contestant is not a defining characteristic. These categories do not appear to be capturing the winners of "feeder" pageants, unlike the subcats of the American category. Otto4711 (talk) 16:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Canadian beauty pageant contestants
- Category:Canadian beauty pageant contestants - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete - following up on the previous CFD for American pageant winners, consensus is that simply being a contestant in a pageant is not a defining characteristic. The subcats are for people who have won a major pageant and so are correctly categorized as pageant winners, not requiring a contestant container category. Otto4711 (talk) 16:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Miss Universe Canada
- Propose renaming Category:Miss Universe Canada to Category:Miss Universe Canada winners
- Nominator's rationale: Rename- reflects the stated purpose of the category, to capture winners of the Miss Universe Canada title. Otto4711 (talk) 16:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Controversial Film
- Category:Controversial Film - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Category is, well "controversial", and it would be difficult to provide unbiased characterization for membership in the category. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- SPEEDY DELETE as re-creation of previously deleted categories (with slight variations in spelling). Many other categories using the word "controversial" have also been deleted -- because they are intrinsically highly subjective.
Notified creator with {{subst:cfd-notify}}
Cgingold (talk) 16:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC) - Tagging for speedy deletion and salting as re-created content. Otherwise delete per extensive precedent against the POV categorization standard "controversial". Otto4711 (talk) 16:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Previous CfDs at
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_December_14#Category:Controversial_films
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_December_1#Category:Controversial_movies
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_October_24#Category:Controversial_films_and_filmmakers
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_January_23#Category:Controversial_Films
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_December_26#Category:Controversial_films
- among others... my apologies for not noticing it before, but I'll leave it to someone else to delete. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Previous CfDs at
- Speedy delete Per above. Lugnuts (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:List of Sustainable buildings by country
- Category:List of Sustainable buildings by country - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: This case is a bit complicated. Do we want to categorize actual buildings and structures by whether they are considered sustainable?
- If "no", then delete this category and its subcategories.
- If "yes", then do we want to place articles about said buildings and structures into categories specifically for buildings and structures or more general categories about sustainable building in a country
- If we want the former, then rename to Category:Sustainable buildings and structures by country and make a subcategory of Category:Buildings and structures by country.
- If we want the latter, then rename to Category:Sustainable building by country (singular "building") and make a subcategory of Category:Sustainable building.
- My current preference ordering is: delete, rename option #2, rename option #1. –Black Falcon (Talk) 21:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Note: Notified creator using {{cfd-notify}}. –Black Falcon (Talk) 21:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comments – the article is actually at Green building to which Sustainable building redirects; this suggests either the articles or the categories should be renamed (I prefer sustainable, lest bright green edifices be added). At present there is Category:Sustainable building and Category:Sustainable buildings and structures should be a subcat; this seems OK. Looking at the Australia and Bahrain subcats it seems that sustainability is a defining feature of the buidings concerned, eg Bahrain World Trade Center has won awards for sustainability. So I think keep, and option 1.5, somewhere between 1 and 2. (Create Category:Sustainable buildings and structures, subcat of Category:Sustainable building and Category:Buildings and structures, with subcat scheme Category:Sustainable buildings and structures by country if needed (which it isn't yet unless there are articles not yet gathered).) Occuli (talk) 22:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kbdank71 14:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Napier University
- Propose renaming Category:Napier University to Category:Edinburgh Napier University
- Propose renaming Category:People associated with Napier University to Category:People associated with Edinburgh Napier University
- Propose renaming Category:Academics of Napier University to Category:Academics of Edinburgh Napier University
- Propose renaming Category:Alumni of Napier University to Category:Alumni of Edinburgh Napier University
- Nominator's rationale: Rename all as the university has changed its name to Edinburgh Napier University Timrollpickering (talk) 13:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Rename all per nom. Occuli (talk) 13:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Western Australian geographic navbox cats
- Propose renaming Category:Western Australian suburbs navigational boxes to Category:Western Australia suburb templates
- and Category:Western Australian Local Government Areas navigational boxes to Category:Western Australia Local Government Area templates
Nominator's rationale: This and the one above it improve consistency within the Australian project - three other states plus the parent category already use the target format. Orderinchaos 13:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Band templates
- Propose renaming Category:Band templates to Category:Musical groups templates
- Nominator's rationale: Musical groups would match the main category for the article namespace corresponding category. Also, almost all of the subcats of Band templates use either "music groups" or "musical groups". About the only use of band is the Band (music) article. Every other use on the site seems to use music groups or musical groups instead. User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 08:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:Songs that sample 1980s hit singles
- Category:Songs that sample 1980s hit singles - Template:Lc1
- Category:Songs that sample previously recorded songs - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Delete Too narrow of a category. Already adequately covered in Category:Songs that sample previously recorded songs Wolfer68 (talk) 07:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Delete - Category:Songs that sample previously recorded songs is quite large and a subcat scheme might be feasible, but 'sample 1980s hit singles' is much too specific. Occuli (talk) 10:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Merge to the parent in case any are missing, although in all likelihood sampling another song is not a defining characteristic and the parent should probably be listified and deleted. Otto4711 (talk) 15:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Changing to delete as the parent category is a recreation of a category deleted here under a different name. Otto4711 (talk) 16:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)- Delete. Unnecessary, overly narrow and WP:OCAT as trivia. As for Category:Songs that sample previously recorded songs, while I agree that one should get deleted as well, it isn't a candidate for speedy: because it contains 476 articles as currently constituted, somebody has to remove the category from the articles, either manually or via an AWB run, before the category can actually be deleted. Speedy doesn't really have a provision for listing deleted categories for that kind of pre-deletion cleanup, while the CFD process does. So while it's clearly a no-brainer delete, it needs to go through this process so that it can get dealt with properly. Bearcat (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Attractions
Nominated categories
- Propose renaming Category:Visitor attractions in Cincinnati to Category:Visitor attractions in Cincinnati, Ohio
- Propose renaming Category:Visitor attractions in Las Vegas to Category:Visitor attractions in Las Vegas, Nevada
- Propose renaming Category:Visitor attractions in Louisville to Category:Visitor attractions in Louisville, Kentucky
- Propose renaming Category:Visitor attractions in Greater Miami to Category:Visitor attractions in Greater Miami, Florida
- Propose renaming Category:Visitor attractions in Omaha to Category:Visitor attractions in Omaha, Nebraska
- Propose renaming Category:Visitor attractions in San Diego to Category:Visitor attractions in San Diego, California
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Atlanta to Category:Landmarks in Atlanta, Georgia
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Baltimore to Category:Landmarks in Baltimore, Maryland
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Chicago to Category:Landmarks in Chicago, Illinois
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Cincinnati to Category:Landmarks in Cincinnati, Ohio
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Macon to Category:Landmarks in Macon, Georgia
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Philadelphia to Category:Landmarks in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Seattle to Category:Landmarks in Seattle, Washington
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in South Omaha to Category:Landmarks in South Omaha, Nebraska
- Propose renaming Category:Landmarks in Tampa to Category:Landmarks in Tampa, Florida
- Propose renaming Category:Houses in Chicago to Category:Houses in Chicago, Illinois
- Propose renaming Category:Houses in Louisville to Category:Houses in Louisville, Kentucky
- Propose renaming Category:Houses in Omaha to Category:Houses in Omaha, Nebraska
- Propose renaming Category:Houses in Philadelphia to Category:Houses in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
- Propose renaming Category:Performing arts in Cincinnati to Category:Performing arts in Cincinnati, Ohio
- Propose renaming Category:Arts venues in Louisville to Category:Arts venues in Louisville, Kentucky
- Propose renaming Category:Casinos in Laughlin to Category:Casinos in Laughlin, Nevada
- Propose renaming Category:Casinos in Las Vegas to Category:Casinos in Las Vegas, Nevada
- Propose renaming Category:Production shows in Las Vegas to Category:Production shows in Las Vegas, Nevada
- Propose renaming Category:Roller coasters in Las Vegas to Category:Roller coasters in Las Vegas, Nevada
- Nominator's rationale: Appending state as per many nominations of this type, and in conformity with other members of their categories. These are roughly similar concepts, so I felt they could all be treated together. The Vegas issue mentioned in previous nominations applies here, as some of the casinos et al. are in the Strip areas just outside of the Vegas limits.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hence my same comments. Would it be better to hold off on these until the questions raised have answers? Also note that Louisville has also been identified as having a similar concern and that in this nomination Greater Miami, Florida is retained and that is like a metropolitan area. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- I would have to dig through some archives, but there was some discussion over the Orlando vs Orlando Area category as well as it pertains to the theme parks (majority of which are outside Orlando city limits). SpikeJones (talk) 13:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hence my same comments. Would it be better to hold off on these until the questions raised have answers? Also note that Louisville has also been identified as having a similar concern and that in this nomination Greater Miami, Florida is retained and that is like a metropolitan area. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:US City Montages
- Propose renaming Category:US City Montages to Category:United States city montages
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand abbreviations and capitalization. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:US Flower class corvettes
- Propose renaming Category:US Flower class corvettes to Category:American Flower class corvettes
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Follow the normal naming convention for the parent category. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:US-headquartered, non-AMA-affiliated motorcycle clubs
- Propose renaming Category:US-headquartered, non-AMA-affiliated motorcycle clubs to Category:United States based motorcycle clubs not affiliated with the American Motorcyclist Association
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand the abbreviation and reword to maybe make name a bit shorter. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Delete - categorizing on a negative is usually not done, is it? Otto4711 (talk) 17:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Correct. I recall this being discussed at one point and there are issues with a better name. If anyone has a suggestion for a name that is not a negative and does not add NPOV concerns, jump in. I think this is one of the exceptions to the rule. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:US GAAP
- Propose renaming Category:US GAAP to Category:United States Generally Accepted Accounting Principles
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand abbreviations. I think the capitalization is correct. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (United States) per main article.-choster (talk) 05:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Category:U.S. State Population Maps
- Propose renaming Category:U.S. State Population Maps to Category:United States state population maps
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand abbreviation and capitalization. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:59, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Newspapers
Nominated categories
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers published in Baltimore to Category:Newspapers published in Baltimore , Maryland
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Bangalore to Category:Newspapers published in Bangalore
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Chennai to Category:Newspapers published in Chennai
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers published in Chicago to Category:Newspapers published in Chicago, Illinois
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Cincinnati, Ohio to Category:Newspapers published in Cincinnati, Ohio
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Cleveland to Category:Newspapers published in Cleveland, Ohio
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Columbus, Ohio to Category:Newspapers published in Columbus, Ohio
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers in Dallas-Fort Worth to Category:Newspapers published in Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Davao City to Category:Newspapers published in Davao City
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Delhi to Category:Newspapers published in Delhi
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Detroit to Category:Newspapers published in Detroit, Michigan
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Guayaquil to Category:Newspapers published in Guayaquil
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania to Category:Newspapers published in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Kolkata to Category:Newspapers published in Kolkata
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers in Las Vegas to Category:Newspapers published in Las Vegas, Nevada
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Metro Manila to Category:Newspapers published in Metro Manila
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Mumbai to Category:Newspapers published in Mumbai
- Propose renaming Category:New York City newspapers to Category:Newspapers published in New York City
- Propose renaming Category:Oklahoma City newspapers to Category:Newspapers published in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers published in Omaha to Category:Newspapers published in Omaha, Nebraska
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers in Philadelphia to Category:Newspapers published in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers published in Pittsburgh to Category:Newspapers published in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
- Propose renaming Category:Seattle newspapers to Category:Newspapers published in Seattle, Washington
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers of Shanghai to Category:Newspapers published in Shanghai
- Propose renaming Category:Los Angeles area newspapers to Category:Newspapers published in the Greater Los Angeles Area
- Propose renaming Category:San Francisco Bay Area newspapers to Category:Newspapers published in the San Francisco Bay Area
- Propose renaming Category:Newspapers in Mali to Category:Newspapers published in Mali
- Propose renaming Category:Defunct newspapers of Chicago to Category:Defunct newspapers of Chicago, Illinois
- Propose renaming Category:Defunct newspapers of Dallas-Fort Worth to Category:Defunct newspapers of Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
- Propose renaming Category:Defunct newspapers in Missouri to Category:Defunct newspapers of Missouri
- Propose renaming Category:Defunct New York City newspapers to Category:Defunct newspapers of New York City
- Nominator's rationale: There’s no clear convention for newspaper categories by city, so I’ll suggest they follow the “Newspapers published in X” pattern like the by-state categories. I also picked a way to handle the defunct ones similar to Category:Defunct newspapers of Kentucky. Other suggestions welcome.--Mike Selinker (talk) 00:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. Not sure of the defunct ones. Maybe something along the lines of Category:Newspapers formerly published in Chicago, Illinois? Vegaswikian (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, hey! I had the exact same thought when I was looking at this a couple of hours ago. It hits the nail squarely on the head. As for the rest of these categories... We could just sit back and wait a couple of months rather than bother with renaming them now. By then, at the rate things are going, there won't even be any daily newspapers still publishing in the United States. They're dropping like flies... Cgingold (talk) 04:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- True that. Anyway, I'm fine with "Newspapers formerly published in X" if people like that better. There are others in the category that would change under that scheme.--Mike Selinker (talk) 04:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm aware of that. If this small subset gets renamed in this way, then the others will need to be nominated. Do you want to modify the nomination to reflect this form? Vegaswikian (talk) 07:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- rename per nom. This provides information for the reader that they should not have to guess at. Hmains (talk) 04:46, 26 February 2009 (UTC)